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A52371 No popery, or, A catechism against popery wherein the heretical doctrins, idolatrous worship, and superstitious practices of the Roman Church are briefly yet plainly refuted, and the Protestant principles proved by testimonies of Holy Scripture, and evidence of reason / by a minister of the Gospell. Minister of the Gospell. 1682 (1682) Wing N1187; ESTC R19866 57,846 152

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Elected God only knoweth who are his 2 Tim. 2.19 Q. How understand you that out of the Church there is no Salvation A. First Out of the Church of the Elect none can be saved for they that have no Communion with the Members of the Body have none also With the Head which is Christ and which is the only name by which we can be saved Secondly Out of the Communion of the Catholick Visible Curch there is no Salvation if there be not an impossibility which cannot be overcome as suppose some among the Turks and Pagans Converted to Christ at the hour of death but it is altogether necessary to Salvation when it is possible to be joyned to some Assembly of Christians and make profession of the Faith of Christ for with the heart man believeth unto Righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation Rom. 10.10 But this Maxim may not be understood of any particular Church much less of the Roman Church which is the most corrupted of all the Churches which call themselves Christian Churches SECT VII If the Church can err Quest IS there any particular Church in the world to whom God hath given this priviledge not to err but to be infallible A. There is none which hath this privilege The Church of Israel who before the coming of Jesus Christ was the only Visible Church of God hath erred and fell many times into Idolatry in the 2 Chron. 15. it is said that for a long season Israel had been without the true God and without a teaching Priest and without Law and the Prophets Isaiah 56.10 Reproaches the Church of Israel that their watchmen were all blind and ignoraant Ezek. 20.7 We may learn that the Church of Israel committed Idolatry in Egypt did she not err in making of the Golden Calf Exod. 32. And when Juda had as many gods as Cities Jerem. 2.28 And in the time of Jesus Christ the Church of the Jews was infected with many Heresies and with the evil Leven of the Pharisees and there is not to be found an example of any particular Church from the Apostles time till now that hath persisted in their purity and it was for good reason that St. Paul writing to the Church of Rome bids her take heed least she should be cut off for her incredulity Rom. 11.21 22. For she hath fallen the most heavily and gone the furthest astray from the truth of all others Q. But if it be so that every particular Church hath erred and may err then it follows that all the Church hath failed and then what will become of the promise Jesus Christ made to his Church that the Gates of Hell should never prevail again her Math. 16.18 A. Jesus Christ in that passage speaks not of any particular Church precisely but of the Church of the Elect and gives us assurance by these words that all the machinations of the World and Satan shall never be able to hinder the Church from subsisting in the Earth but that there shall be a company of Believers which shall confess his Name for the Foundation of the Lord standeth sure God knoweth who are his 2 Tim. 2.19 and notwithstanding the Corruption of the World there is all ways reserved some who boweth not the Knee before Baal 1 Kings 19.18 And if it happen that some Church fall from the Truth God raiseth up another in whom he manifests his Knowledg Q. What you say seems contrary to your received opinion that the state of the Church hath been interred A. We only understand by this the general condition of the Church in the West which by reason of the Dominion of the Pope and the Supperstitions in the Roman Church hath been interrupted or greatly Corrupted but it follows not that though there were not in the West pure particular Visible Churches that there was not in the East and other parts of the World Q. But though each particular Church may err yet General Councils assembled in the Name of Jesus Christ cannot err for Jesus Christ hath promised that when two or three are gathered together in his Name he will be in the midst of them Matth. 18.20 A. I answer it cannot be affirmed with any certainty of Faith that there hath been any Council that hath not erred in some kind except that of the Apostles Acts 15. because they were immediately and infalliably lead into all Truth as Jesus Christ promised John 14.26 The Church of Israel assemnled in Council erred having condemned Jesus Christ to death as a Blasphemer Many that have named themselves General Councils have manifestly erred as that of Nice 2. which commanded to Worship Images upon pain of Curse and Anathem and that of Constance which took away the Cup in the Sacrament from the people though they grant that Jesus Christ had Instituted it and the Primitive Church had practised otherwise such Councils though they say they are assembled in the Name of Jesus Christ are not so since they Combat his Doctrine Q. What call you then a Council assembled in the Name of Jesus Christ A. These who being assembled by his Authority submit their decisions to his Holy Word SECT VIII Of the marks of the True Church Quest BY what mark know you the True Church since there are so many and so different in their sentiments and each of them pretending to be the true one A. By that which Jesus Christ gives us John 10.27 My sheep hear my voice and they follow me and Chap. 8.31 If you continue in my word then are you my disciples indeed That is then the true Church which is Conform to the word of Jesus Christ and obeys his voice Q. But what say you to Antiquity A. That it is a deceitful mark untruth being little later then Truth An error is nor the truer because it is ancient Antiquity destitute of Truth is but an antient error as an Antient Elegantly spoke Jesus Christ said not I am Custom but I am the Truth John 14. The only Antiquity that we receive is the first Truth which we have in the Holy Scripture to the which we Appeal for the condemnation of all error saying with Jesus Christ In the beginning it was not so Matth. 19.8 Q. What ju●gment make you of Succession in the Chair A. That is also a false mark for Hereticks may also make use of Antiquity and Succession in the Chair without Truth is void We are not to judg of the Truth of a Church by her Succession but upon the contrary of her Succession by the Truth she Teaches The Pharisees in Moses Chair corrupted the Law and at this time the Doctors of the Roman Church in the pretended Chair of St. Peter Combat his Doctrine Q. Visibility and splendor may not it be a mark of the True Church A. No for the Word of God upon the contrary foretels crosses and afflictions to befal the Church and there happens sometimes so much calamity to the Church that she
Schism but that which is the cause of Separation now our Separation being upon a just account cannot be called Schism for the Errors and Superstitions of the Roman Church made our Separation necessary for God having discovered them to us by his Word we could not without bringing guilt upon our selves neglect that Commandment of God Revel 18.4 to come out of Babylon that ye be not partakers of her sins and that ye receive not of her Plagues besides it doth not become them to reproach us with our Separation and to accuse us of Schism since they first thrust us from amongst them by their Excommunications and all sorts of violence and we may much more justly call them Schismaticks they having so unworthily separated from Jesus Christ and his Apostles and from the purity of his Doctrine by so many Heresies which they teach Q. Yet could you not for peace sake have dissembled and contented your selves with distasting them in your heart A. No For God vomits out of his Mouth those that are luke warm Revel 3.16 and would have us to glorifie him as well in our bodies as in our spirits which are his 1 Cor. 6.20 and that as we believe with the Heart unto Righteousness we should with our own mouth make Confession unto Salvation Rom. 10.10 SECT X. Of the Head of the Church Quest WHo is the Head of the Church A. Jesus Christ only for St. Paul says Ephes 4.5 There is one Lord and one Faith and Chap. 1.22 he says that God hath put all things under his feet and gave him to be the Head over all things to the Church which is his Body Now as Jesus Christ hath but one mystical Body viz. his Church also this Body can have but one Head Q. But hath not Jesus Christ established under him one here upon Earth to be the visible Head of the Church A. No for the Word of God hath made no mention thereof and Ephes 4.11 St. Paul rekoning up the Offices in the Church says He gave some Apostles and some Pastors and Teachers but says nothing of this pretended Head which should have been the first And Jesus Christ forbids all Superiority of Authority amongst his Disciples Luke 22.25 26. The Kings of the earth exercise Lordship over them but ye shall not be so and Matth. 23.8 Be not ye called Rabby for one is your Master even Christ and all ye are brethren Q. It would seem that Jesus Christ looked on St. Peter as a Head Ordinarily he is first named in the Gospel and Matth. 16.18 Jesus Christ says to him Thou art Peter and upon this Rock I will build my Church A. His being named first doth not import any Superiority of Authority or Jurisdiction but of Honour and Order because of his Age or Gifts and when Jesus Christ says upon this Rock will I build my Church he had not regard to the person of St. Peter but to his Doctrine and the Confession he had made in the name of the other Apostles saying Thou art Christ the Son of the living God and on this consideration not only Peter but the rest of the Apostles are called the Foundation of the Church as we are taught by St. Paul Ephes 2.20 And are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Jesus Christ himself beeing the chief corner stone Q. But Jesus Christ in the same place promises to give him the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven and that whosoever he shall bind on Earth shall he bound in Heaven A. In those words he gives no Authority to St. Peter which he gives not to the other Apostles to whom also he hath given the Keys and the power of binding and loosing and of remitting and retaining sins John 20.21 As my Father hath sent me so send I you verse 23. Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted But supposing it were as true as it is false that Jesus Christ did in this passage Establish Peter Visible Head of the Church it would not follow that the Bishops of Rome are his Successors in that Office since we see no warrant for it in the Scripture neither hath the other Apostles had any Successors in their Offices as Apostles Q. But since the death of Jesus Christ and his Ascension did not the Apostles acknowledge St. Peter for their Head A. No on the contrary Acts 8.14 the Apostles send him with John to Preach the Gospel in Samaria and St. Paul says 2 Cor. 11.5 That he esteemeth not himself a whit behind the very chiefest Apostles and Gal. 2.9 Naming James before Peter he says James Peter and John gave him the right hand of Fellowship and proves at length in the same place that he was not called to be an Apostle by any but by Jesus Christ alone and 1 Cor. 1.12.13 He reproves those amongst the Corinthians that did choose to themselves any other Head or Patron but Jesus Christ every one of you says I am of Paul and I of Apollo and I of Cephas and I of Christ Is Christ divided Was Paul Crucified for you Or were you Baptized in the name of Paul To acknowlege then another Head than Christ is to divide Christ Neither can we acknowlege any other Head but he who was Crucified for us and in whose Name we are Baptized St. Peter himself takes no other Title in his Epistles but that of Apostle and Elder and speaks to the Pastors of the Church not as having Authority over them but as their comparison in service 1 Pet. 5.1 The Elders that are among you I exhort who am also an Elder SECT XI Of the Invocation of Saints Quest MVst we pray to Saints A. No Because we have neither Command nor Example in the Word of God for it and when the Apostles desired Jesus Christ to teach them to Pray he injoyns them to pray to God only Luke 11.2 When you Pray say Our Father which art in Heaven c. Now that which is without the Word of God is without Faith Rom. 10.17 Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God It is then a sin to Pray unto Saints since it is to Pray without Faith which is required in Prayer James 1.6 Let him ask in Faith nothing wavering Q. But is not Praying to Saints expresly forbidden in the Word of God A. Yes For God hath commanded us to Adore and Serve him only Matth. 4.10 Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve now praying is one of the chief and principal Acts of Religious Worship and Service and St. Paul teaches us that we cannot call on those we do not believe in Rom. 10.14 How shall they call on him in whom they have not believed then we are not to Pray to Saints since it is not lawful to put our confidence in them for God declares them cursed that put their trust in man Jerem. 17.5 Cursed be the the man that trusteth in man Q. It is true we are to serve God
only with the service of Latria but may we not serve the Saints with the service of Dulia A. The word of God admits not of this distinction and Gal. 4.8 St. Paul condemns the Pagans that they gave service of Dulia to those which by Nature were no Gods Now however excellent the Saints are yet they are not by Nature Gods Q. But why may we not as well pray to the Saints in Heaven as we desire the Prayers of Believers here on Earth A. Because we cannot Pray to Saints which are at such a great distance from us and have not Ears to hear our Voice but we must acknowledge them to be searchers of our Hearts and to know the intended thoughts of our Souls which is to attribute to the creature that which is only due to the Creator 2. Chron. 6.30 For thou only knowest the hearts of the children of men Q. It is true there is none but God that can immediately know the hearts of men but Saints may know them when God reveals them to them as he did to Elisha what his servant Gehazi did to Nahaman 2 Kings 5.26 A. I grant God can do it but it is not sufficient to Pray in Faith that we be assured of the power of God but likewise of his Will but we are so far from having ground to believe that God will reveal the Prayers of men here below to the Saints in Heaven that on the contrary the Scripture tells Eccles 9.5.6 That they have no more portion for ever in any thing that is done under the Sun and therefore Elijah bids Elisha ask what he would before he was taken away 2 Kings 2.9 Presupposing that it would be in vain to ask him any thing after and God having extraordinarily made a Revelation of this kind to one of his Prophets to give Authority to his Ministery cannot be drawn into a general consequence for all Saints Q. Nevertheless it would seem that seeing God who knoweth all things they should see all things in God as in a Glass A. That doth not follow for the Angels who see the Face of God know not the time of the day of Judgment Matth. 24.36 And if they who see God should see all that God seeth and knoweth they would become Gods seeing that they would have infinite knowledge Saints see nothing in God but what is necessary to make them happy Q. Yet Jesus Christ says Luke 15.7 That there is great joy in Heaven over a sinner that repenteth then Saints must know the repentance of sinners and consequently their thoughts and inclinations A. Jesus Christ speaks not of Saints but of Angels as he explains himself verse 10. saying There is joy in the presence of the Angels of God over one sinner that repenteh Now we need not wonder that the Angels have some knowledge of mens repentance since they are sent hither for that end as the Apostle tells us Hebr. 1.14 Are they not all ministring spirits sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation Q. But what say you of the Letter Elija writ to Joram after he was taken up into Heaven 2 Chron. 21.12 A. That Elija writ not that Letter after he was taken up but before having writ it by a Spirit of Prophesie and left it on the Earth and so was given afterwards to Joram by some Prophets to whom Elijah had committed it Q. Nevertheless glorified Saints must have some knowlege of the condition af Believers here on Earth since they take care for their Salvation and St. Peter promises to Believers 2 Epist 1.15 That after his death he would endeavour that they might remember the things that he had taught them A. This passage is not well and rightly translated so for St. Peter says not that he will endeavour after his death that Believers should remember those things but that they should remember them after his death Q. At least it is lawful to Serve and Pray to Angels which assist us and are near to us A. Not at all for Revel 22.9 and 19.10 St. John was going to Worship the Angel and the Angel rebuked him and took him up saying See thou do it not I am thy fellow servant worship God and St. Paul rejects Worshipping of Angels as superstitions Col. 2.18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshiping of Angels intruding into those things which he hath not seen Q. Yet we see that under the Old Testament Believers have often worshipped Angels and Prayed to them Abraham bowed himself towards the ground before them and a little after Lott Gen. 18. and 19. A. I answer Abraham and Lott did not think they were Angels but men that were strangers for whom they make ready Meat therefore this homage was only Civil and acccording to the Eastern custom when they meet one another but when they knew one of them was the Lord they Worshipped him and Prayed to him likewise as God Q. What think you of this passage in Gen. 48.16 Where Jacob dying blesses after this manner the children of Joseph The Angel which redeemed me from all evil bless the Lads and let my name be named on them and the names of my Fathers Abraham and Isaac for it would seem that in this passage Jacob prays to an Angel and that he would have the children of Joseph pray to Abraham and Isaac A. I answer this was no Created Angel but Jesus Christ whom Malachie calls the Angel of the Covenant Chap. 3.1 And one of those that appeared to Abraham and Lott who is oft times in the 18. and 19. Ch. of Genesis called the Lord and he with whom Jacob Wrestled Hosea 12.3 4. the Prophet says Jacob by his strength had power with God yea he had power over the Angel and prevailed and Jacob's desiring that his name and the names of his Fathers should be named on the Children of Joseph is not that he would have them to Pray to him and his Fathers but that the Children of Joseph to wit Ephraim and Manasseh should be called by his name as Children of Jacob and be partakers with them as two different Tribes which was observed when the Land of Canaan was divided but besides this it is in vain for the Doctors of the Roman Church to alledge passages out of the Old Testament for the Invocation of Saints since they think that the Saints were shut up in the Limboes of the Fathers and did not then see the Face of God which is the principal ground they have for their Invocation of Saints SECT XII Of the Intercession of Saints Quest WE being miserable sinners how can we draw near to the Divine Majesty if we do not imploy some of Gods friends for Mediators as when we will speak to the King we adress our selves to some of his Favorites A I grant we dare not approach to God but by a Mediator but we need not for that end employ Saints for if we have sinned
with more liberty and less distraction but Jesus Christ himself says in the same place that all men cannot receive this saying Matth. 19.11 Q. Yet St. Paul Condemns widows who having consecrated themselves to the service of the Church would afterwards Marry 1 Tim. 5.12 Having damnation because they have cast off their first faith A. St. Paul condemns them because by Marrying they make themselves uncapable of fulfilling their promise to serve the Church and not for their Marrying and therefore least they should be obliged to quit their Office and so violate their Faith by Marrying he forbids to receive any into that number under threescore and commands young Widows to Marry saying I will therefore that the younger women marry 1 Tim. 5.14 Q. Is this command in the 1 Cor. 7.9 If they cannot contain let them Marry made to Ministers and Ecclesiastical persons as well as to other people A. Yes For Ministers are as much obliged to obey God as others and therefore Ecclesiastical persons under the Law did Marry both Priests and Prophets and under the Gospel St. Peter was Married and Philip the Evangelist St. Matth. 8.14 Acts 21.9 And St. Paul 1 Cor. 9.5 tells us that he had power to lead about a Sister a Wife as well as other Apostles and Brethren of the Lord and Cephas And 1 Tim. 3.2 he would have a Bishop to be the Husband of one Wife and therefore speaking of them who forbid Marriage he calls them seducing Spirits teaching Doctrines of Devils 1 Tim. 4.1 2 3. SECT XX. Of Vowing Poverty Quest IS it lawful to Vow Poverty to God and quit our Goods for to shut our selves up the rest of our days in a Cloister and beg our Bread from door to door A. No Jesus Christ indeed Commands us to quit joyfully our Goods Wives and Houses for to follow him when we cannot keep them without dissembling or abandoning the Truth but he commands us not to beg but on the contrary would have us Gen. 3.19 to eat our bread in the sweat of our faces and 1 Tim. 6.18 that the Rich should be rich in good Works ready to distribute willing to communicate and Ephes 4 28 the Apostle would have us labour working with our hands the things which are Good that we may have to give to him that needeth Q. Yet Jesus Christ commandeth the young men Matth. 19.21 to sell what he had and give it to the poor A. Jesus Christ commanded this young man to do it that he might make manifest his Covetousness and to show that he loved not God with all his heart as he had boasted Luke 14.26 but he commandeth not others to do it SECT XXI Of Vowing Obedience Quest IS it lawful to Vow a blind Obedience without contradiction to a Superiour A. No For God only hath Soveraign power over our Consciences 1 Cor. 7.23 Ye are bought with a price be not ye the servants of men Q. What think you of the Vows of Children that without the consent and against the will of their Parents and Superiours put themselves into Monasteries A. That they are void for the Scripture tells us Numb 30.5 That if a Father disallow the Vows of a Child yet in his house they shall not stand and they that allow such Vows make void the Commandment of God Honour thy Father and thy Mother by their Tradition as Jesus Christ chargeth the Pharisees Matthew 15.6 SECT XXII Of Lawful Vows Quest WHat is requisite in lawful Vows A. First That they be made to God only and not to Creatures Psal 76.11 Psal 50.14 Offer unto God thanksgiving and pay thy Vows unto the most high Secondly That the things Vowed be lawful and good It was a wicked Vow of the Jews not to eat nor drink till they had killed Paul Acts 23.12 Thirdly That it be not rash as Jeptha's was to Sacrifice the first thing that should meet him after his Victory Judg. 11.31 and Herods Matth. 14.7 Fourthly That the thing Vowed be our own and that it be in our power to fulfil it Q. Are unlawful and wicked Vows to be kept A. No For a wicked and rash Vow ought not to make us violate our first Vow in Baptism to obey the Commandments of God and the keeping and fulfilling such Vows is as great or greater crime than the making of them SECT XXIII Concerning Fasts Quest WHat think you is to be blamed in the Romish Fasts A. Four things chiefly 1. Their making them consist in distinction of meats and not in abstinence from meats 2. Their ordering them precisely at a certain time of the year without respect to the fittest time in which we ought particularly to humble our selves before God 3. Their being become Superstitious and being imposed with as much or more rigour than the Commandments of God 4. And above all the believing that they merit Eternal Salvation in observing of them Q. Are such Fasts Condemned in the Word of God A. Yes for St. Paul forbids us to make any distinction of meats 1 Cor. 10.25 Whatsoever is Sold in the Shambles that Eat asking no question for Conscience sake And our Lord Jesus Christ tells us Matth. 15.11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man but that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man And 1 Cor. 8.8 Meat commendeth us not to God for neither if we eat are we the better neither if we eat not are we the worse And Rom. 14.17 The Kingdom of God is not meat nor drink but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost And above all the Apostle speaks very expresly Col. 2.16 Let no man judge you in meat or in drink And 1 Tim. 4.3 he says that they are seducing Spirits teaching doctrins of devils who command to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth Q. It may be answered to these passages that in them St. Paul condemns two sorts of persons First Those who under the Gospel would oblige Christians to observe the Ordinances of the Law touching the distinction of meats which we ought not any more to observe because they were shadows of things to come but the body is of Christ Colos 2.17 And Secondly Those who looked on some meats to be polluted by Nature as some Hereticks have done but these passages do not seem to condemn those who in some certain times ordained abstinence from some sorts of meats to humble and subdue the flesh A. To the first I Answer That if S. Paul Colos 2.20 would not have us to Obey the Ordinances of the Law about the distinction of meat because we are dead with Christ though they were Ceremonies instituted of God much less are we obliged seeing we are dead with Christ to observe New Ordinances which are but inventions of men for we ought to stand fast in the Liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free and not be intangled again with the Yoke of
Alms c. 4. Above all he is free and at liberty to sin Q. Hath not an unregenerate man Free Will to Actions freely good and pleasing unto God such as Faith Repentance and Love to God A. No for Jesus Christ teaches us that Whosoever committeth s●n is the servant of sin John 8.34 and Matth. 7.18 that A corrupt tree cannot bring forth good fruits And S. Paul Rom. 8.7 tells us that The carnal mind is enmity against God for it is not subject to the Law of God neither indeed can be And the same Apostle says that Men before they are savingly called are dead in their trespasses and sins Ephes 2.1 Q. What think you of the brave Actions of Pagans and the heroick Vertues which shined in them A. That they were brave and splendid Actions but that they could not be pleasing unto God because they were not moved by the consideration of his Glory but by their own Ambition and that these great men not being in Christ and being destitute of faith could not please God as the Apostle teacheth us that Without faith it is impossible to please God Heb. 11.6 Q. May not these civil Vertues which are in unregenerate men be saving dispositions to the Grace of God and merits of Congruity which may incline God to be merciful to them A. No For S. Paul says 2 Tim. 1.9 that God hath saved us and called us with an holy Calling not according to our works but according to his own Purpose and Grace which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began And our Lord Jesus Christ doth not refer the Cause of his Disciples being called to the knowledge of God rather than the Pharisees to any thing but God's good pleasure Matth. 11.26 I thank thee O Father Lord of heaven and earth because thou hast hid those things from the wise and prudent and hast revealed them unto babes even so Father for so it seemed good in thy sight Q. What doth a man then contribute towards his heavenly Callong A. No more than one dead to his Resurrection or Adam to his Creation or a Child to his Conception and therefore Regeneration is called in the Word of God a Resurrection Col. 2.12 You are risen through the faith of the operation of God who hath raised Jesus Christ from the dead And a Creation Ephes 2.10 We are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto good works A Generation James 1.18 Of his own Will begat he us with the Word of Truth that we should be a kind of first fruits of his Creatures SECT XXVII Of Man's Free Will in a State of Grace Quest BVT After God hath called a man from a state of Sin to a state of Grace hath be not Free Will to apply himself to that which is good A. Yes For Jesus Christ saith John 6.36 If the Son shall make you free ye shall be free indeed even as when Jesus Christ had raised Lazarus from the dead he commanded that they should untie him and let him go So after God hath raised a man from the state of spiritual death and delivered him from the bonds of Sin he walketh freely in the paths of Righteousness and with gladness of heart willingly employs himself in his Service Rom. 7.22 Q. Do you think that after God hath called a man to Salvation he leaves him to himself and to his own conduct A. No For the same Grace of God which hath begun the work will accompany us Phil. 1.6 He which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ And Chap. 2.13 It is God that worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure All the good motions of regenerate men proceed from the Grace of God 2 Cor. 3.5 Not that we are sufficient of our selves to think any thing as of our selves but our sufficiency is of God Q. This being so a regenerate man is not at liberty since it is not he properly that acteth but God in him A. This doth not follow for God worketh so in the Will of Believers that he taketh not away their liberty but on the contrary maketh it more perfect making them incline to good not constrainedly but with a willing and filial Obedience Psal 119.32 35. Q. How do you understand this Divine Co-operation A. That God doth not deal with Believers as Stones or Stocks which are moved and drawn without feeling but as with Creatures endowed with Reason he conducts and moves them to good by enlightning their Understanding and sanctifying their Will and Affections So that whereas they were refractory he makes them become obedient and by the efficacy of Grace and a force without constraint he so draws them that he makes them follow his Will and Conduct freely and with delight as the Spouse says in Cant. 1.4 Draw me we shall run after thee And the Prophet Jeremy Lament 5.21 Turn us O Lord and we shall be turned And John 6.44 Our Saviour says No man can come to me except the Father draw him We go then to Christ when it pleases the Father to draw us Q. Doth not this Doctrine make men negligent in good Works A. No On the contrary S. Paul Phil. 2.12 exhorts us to work out our Salvation c. because It is God that worketh in us to will and to do according to his good pleasure Q. Is this Free Will to do good in Believers perfect A. No For their Regeneration is yet imperfect and there remains something of their Bondage to sin which is the cause that they do not the good that they would but the evil that they would not as S. Paul speaketh of himself Rom. 7.15 Q. When is it then that Man 's Free Will shall be perfect A. When the Soul delivered from this mortal Body shall enjoy the presence of God in Heaven for ther the Soul being made perfectly holy shall be also perfectly free as the Angels are and the Spirits of the Just SECT XXVIII Of Justification Quest WHat doth this word Justifie signifie in the Scripture A. To absolve the Just and therefore it is ordinarily opposed to the word Condemn Prov. 17.15 He that justifieth the wicked and he that condemneth the just even they both are abomination to the Lord. And Matth. 12.37 By thy words thou shalt be justiised and by thy words thou shalt be condemned Q. Who is it can justifie and absolve us A. God only Rom. 8.33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's Elect it is God that justifieth Q. Wherein consisteth that Justification A. In the free Remission and Pardon of Sin which he giveth us as David says Psal 32.1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven whose sins are covered Rom. 4.6 7. Q. Vpon what consideration doth God justifie men and pardon their sin A. Upon the account of Christ's Righteousness and full Obedience he hath rendred unto his Father which he hath particularly testified in being obedient
a Sacrament of the New Testament since it was practised under the Old Num. 27.23 Deut. 34.9 Q. Do you believe that the conferring of Orders upon a man imprints such an indelible Character upon his Soul that the flames of Hell cannot efface it or raze it out A. I believe this Character is a vain imagination and I know no other Character that is printed upon the Soul but that of the Spirit of God whereby the Elect are sealed to the day of Redemption Ephes 1.13 and 4.30 SECT XLVI Of the Order of Priesthood Quest WHat think you of the Order of Priests A. If the name of Priest from Presbyter be taken as it was in the time of the Apostles for an Elder or Pastor whose Office is to instruct and lead the Flock of Jesus Christ as S. Peter exhorts the Elders in his first Epistle Chap. 5.1 This Order is very lawful and instituted by Jesus Christ But if by Priest they understand a Sacrificer of the Body of Jesus Christ I hold that Order to be unlawful and an invention of men Q. Why do ye esteem it such A. Because no man taketh this honour of Priesthood unto himself but he that was called of God as was Aaron Heb 5.4 It is rashness then to look on themselves as Priests without producing any Authority from the Word of God for the institution of this Order St. Paul Ephes 4. and 1 Cor. 12.28 Rom. 12. where he reckons the Offices of the Church says not a word of this And to the Hebrews in all his Epistle in which he treats expresly and at length of the Priesthood of the Christian Church speaks not of any other Priest of the Body of Christ but Christ himself who offered himself to God by his Eternal Spirit Hebr. 19.14 It is also to be considered that the Apostle Hebr. 7. gives two reasons for abolishing the Priesthood of the Law which destroys also that which is now Established the one is that the Priests were subject to death the other that they were obliged to Sacrifice first for their own sins and then for the sins of the people Priests being then still Mortals and Sinners ought to be abolished Besides the Sacrificer being more excellent than the Sacrificed and he who Sacrifices more powerful and more excellent than the Victims it is too bold an enterprise to pretend to Sacrifice Jesus Christ for it is to make themselves greater and more excellent than Jesus Christ himself Q. They pretend notwithstanding to prove their Priesthood by these words of Jesus Christ Do this in remembrance of me A. But they do it without ground for First Since Jesus Christ by these words Instituted the Sacrament of the Lords Supper what appearance is there that by the same words he should Institute another Sacrament Secondly Jesus Christ in these words commands his Disciples to do afterwards that which he had ordered them to do then viz. to take and eat now to take and eat is not to sacrifice Thirdly Moreover he commands to do this in remembrance of him Now it is absurd to take and sacrifice a person in remembrance of him for we remember things absent Q. Yet the holy Scripture speaks of other Priests under the New Testament than Jesus Christ for St. John says Rev. 1.6 that Jesus Christ hath made us Kings and Priests unto God and his Father And in 1 Pet. 2.9 St. Peter calls us a Royal Priesthood A. It is greatly to be observed that this Title is given indifferently to all Believers and never particularly to Priests and Believers are called Priests because as we are taught in 1 Pet. 2.5 They are an holy Priestood to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ Q. And what are these Sacrifices A. Good Works Prayers Praises and Thanksgivings Heb. 13.15 Alms and Repentance Psal 51.19 And Rom. 12.1 Present your bodies a living sacrifice holy acceptable unto God which is your reasonable Service SECT XLVII Of the Sacrifice of the Mass Quest DDo you believe that in the Mass the Priests offer the Body of Jesus Christ a Propiciatory Sacrifice for the Living and the Dead A. As I acknowledge no other Priest in the Church but Jesus Christ who is a Priest for ever after the Order of Melchisedech Psal 110.4 Also I acknowledge no other Propitiatory Sacrifice for Sin but the death of Jesus Christ who hath loved us and hath given himself for us an Offering and Sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savour Ephes 5.2 Q. Why do you not acknowledge any other A. Because the Word of God makes no mention of any other under the Gospel And the Apostle to the Hebrews who writes an Epistle expresly to teach us by what Sacrifice Sins are truly expiated and the Sacrifices of the Law fulfilled mentions no other but the Blood of Jesus Christ who by his Eternal Spirit offered himself to God to purchase for us an Eternal Redemption yea he tells us expresly that Jesus Christ offess not himself often Heb. 9.25 26. And that as It is appointed for men once to die and after this the judgment so Christ was once offered to bear the Sins of Man Heb. 9.27 28. That by one Offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified through the Offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all Heb. 10.10 14. Q. It is true he offered himself but once a bloody Sacrifice but he offers himself an unbloody Sacrifice every day at the Mass A. This distinction is not found in the Word of God neither is there any propitiatory Sacrifice without shedding of Blood Heb. 9.22 Without shedding of blood is no Remission Q. It is only by the death of Jesus Christ that Forgiveness of Sins is purchased for us but by the Mass as by an Applicatory Sacrifice of the former is applied to us the Propitiation of Sins A. I answer to that That as it is not needful that Jesus Christ die again that his death may be applied to us neither is it needful that he be sacrificed again that his Sacrifice may be applied to us God hath appointed other means than the Mass to apply the death and Sacrifice of Jesus Christ unto us viz. the preaching of the Gospel Sacraments and Faith Q. But if Jesus Christ is not offered every day wherein consists his everlasting Priesthood after the Order of Melchisedeck A. The Apostle to the Hebrews makes it to consist in two things 1. In the perpetual Efficacy of his Blood once offered on the Cross and therefore it is said Heb. 12.24 that His blood speaketh better things than that of Abel 2. In that being entred into the holy Place according to the Office of the High Priest he interceeds continually for us Heb. 7.24.25 This Man because he continueth ever hath an unchangeable Priesthood wherefore he is able also to save them to the utmost that come unto God by him seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them Q. They alledge for the
Sacrifice of the Mass that which is said Gen. 14.18 that Melchisedeck sacrificed Bread and Wine A. If it were so in this passage as it is alledged there could nothing be gathered from it but that the Priests according to the Order of Melchisedeck should offer Bread and Wine and not the Body of Jesus Christ But this passage is not well translated for in the Hebrew it is not that Melchisedeck sacrificed but that he brought forth or presented Bread and Wine and that to Abraham for to refresh him and his people and not to God in Sacrifice Q. They prove likewise the Sacrifice of the Mass by Mal. 1.11 From the rising of the Sun even unto the going down of the same my Name shall be great among the Gentiles and in every place Incense shall be offered unto my Name and a Pure-Offering A. In all this passage there is nothing spoke of the Sacrifice of the body of Christ but the Prophet speaking of the Calling of the Gentiles foretels that every where a pure Offering should be offered unto God for so the Word of God calls the preaching of the Gospel Prayers and Alms and such like good works which are spiritual Sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ 1 Pet. 2.5 Q. What answer you to that which the Apostle says H. 13.10 We have an Altar whereof they have no right to eat which serve the Tabernacle A. That by this Altar is meant the Sacrifice that is spoken of in all the Epistle viz. the death of Jesus Christ and not the Sacrifice of Mass of which there is no mention made Q. Of what Sacrifice then speaks the Apostle besides the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ when he says Heb. 9.23 That it was necessary that the Heavenly things should be purified with better Sacrifices than those naming more than one A. He speaks only of the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ more excellent than all the Sacrifices of the Law names it Sacrifices putting it in the Plural 1. Because of his opposing it to the ancient Sacrifices of the Law 2. Because of its Excellency so David calls Repentance Psal 51.17 The Sacrifices of God and The most Holy Place in Greek is called Holy Places The Right Hand of God is called Right Hands Q. May not the Lord's Supper be called a Sacrifice A. Yes in the same sense that Alms and good Works are called Sacrifices not Propitiatory but Congratulatory or a Thanksgiving Sacrifice It may also be called a Sacrifice because it represents the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ's death even as the Sacraments take the name of the things they represent SECT XLVIII Of Baptism Quest WHat doth Baptism represent to you A. Two Washings 1. The Washing of our Justification which consists in the Forgiveness of our Sins 2. The Washing of Regeneration which consists in our being renewed spiritually by the Holy Ghost Q. Are those Graces communicated by Baptism Ex opere operato as they speak in the Schools by the thing done that is to say by the bare Action of the Sacrament wiihout the disposition of him that receives contributing thereunto A. No But by the power of the Holy Ghost in them who have Faith and Repentance for as it was not the blood of the Heifer that purified the Conscience neither is it the Water of Baptism but the Blood of Jesus Christ that cleanses from Sin and therefore Baptism is called 1 Pet. 3.21 A figure which saves us not the putting away the filth of the flesh says the Apostle but the answer of a good Conscience towards God by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ Q. Why then are Children baptized which are not capable of Faith and Repentance A. Because having an interest in the Covenant they ought also to receive the Sign thereof Acts 2.38 39. Be ye baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the Remission of sins for the promise is unto you and to your children But these Children when they come to Age must apply to themselves the Promise made to them in Baptism or else the Sacrament will serve only to aggravate their Condemnation SECT XLIX If Original Sin continues after Baptism Quest HAth Baptism that efficacy wholly to efface or abolish Original Sin so that after Baptism there remains in Man no sinful Corruption A. No For Experience shews that Children have perverse inclinations and are sinners after Baptism and if they were not sinners they would not die for says the Apostle The wages of sin is death Rom. 6.23 And St. Paul who was circumcised and after that baptized grants that sin dwelt in him and that he was sold under sin Rom. 7.14 17. The Romanists themselves confess in the Council of Trent that Lust continueth after Baptism Now if we believe St. Paul Lust is Sin Rom. 7.7 I had not known Lust except the Law had said Thou shalt not covet Q. But how often doth the Scripture tell us that We are baptised to the Remission of Sins and that We are therein washed from our Sins Act. 22.16 A. We do receive Forgiveness of Sins therein and to those that believe in Jesus Christ their sin shall not be imputed but that doth not hinder but after Baptism our Corruption doth continue more or less even till death SECT L. Of the Necessity of Baptism Quest IS Baptism so necessary to Salvation that without it we cannot be saved A. Baptism is necessary to Salvation when it may be had and this holy Sacrament ought not to be neglected but to exclude from Salvation a person who could neither have the time nor the opportunity to be baptised or a Child whose sudden death hath prevented Baptism is a cruel Doctrine and contrary to the goodness of God who tieth not his Grace to exterior Elements and maketh not the Salvation of Children to depend upon the negligence of their Parents Q. Nevertheless Jesus Christ says to Nicodemus John 3.5 Except a man be born of Water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God A. Jesus Christ doth not mean the material Water of Baptism but the Grace of the Holy Ghost which is often both in the Old New Testament called water Is 44.3 I will pour water upon him that is thirsty and floods upon the dry ground I will pour my spirit upon thy seed And Jesus Christ promised to give them that believe on him a well of water springing up into Everlasting Life John 4.14 By those words Jesus Christ doth not shew Nicodemus the Necessity of being Baptised since he was already Circumcised but the Necessity of being Regenerated that he might enter into the Kingdom of Heaven SECT LI. Of the Lords Supper Quest FOR what End did Jesus Christ institute the Sacrament of the Lords Supper A. That it might be a memorial of his death as Saint Paul teacheth us 1 Cor. 11.26 As often as you Eat this Bread and Drink this Cup ye do shew the Lords Death till he come And himself when he
Instituted this Sacrament saith This is my Body which is broken for you this do in Remembrance of me 1 Cor. 11.24 Q. Do you believe that Jesus Christ when he says This is my Body changed the Bread substantially into his true Body and was pleased that as often as the Pastors should pronounce these words they should Transubstantiate the Bread and Wine into his Body A. No for since Reason and Faith teaches me that there is no change of substance in those signs sight tast touch and smell assure me that it is true bread and wine reason tells me that a human body cannot be inclosed in breads accidents and that accidents cannot subsist without their subject and when it is destroyed that it implies a contradiction that one body can be in heaven and in earth at the same time and not in the middle space that it can have all its parts and dimensions in one small point and be more spiritual than a spirit Briefly faith which teaches me that Jesus Christ hath an human nature like to ours in all things Sin only excepted permits me not to believe that Jesus Christ hath a body invisible impalpable without dimensions without voice or motion faith persuades me that Jesus Christ is in Glory at the Fathers right hand permits me not to believe that his body is on earth subject to be trodden under foot by Infidels taken away by Thieves eaten by mice and suffer now he is in Glory more Reproach than ever he suffer'd during his humiliation here below in a word faith which teaches me that the heaven must receive him untill the restitution of all things Acts 3.21 And that we have the Poor always with us but that we have not him always Matth. 26.11 That he hath left the World that he is gone to his Father John 13.1 and 16.17 and 14.3 hinders me from believing that he is here again on the Earth shut up in a Pix Matth. 24.26 If any shall say Behold he is in the secret Chambers believe them not the Greek word signifies Ciboires i. e. the Boxes wherein the Sacrament is kept Q. But yet he hath said himself of the Bread This is my Body and of the Cup This is my Blood Matth. 26.26 A. Yes but he said likewise that it was Bread He took bread and said this is my Body and he said of the Cup that it was the Fruit of the Vine Matth. 26.29 And St. Paul 1 Cor. 11.26 27 28. says that we break and eat Bread I am then obliged to believe that it is Bread and the Body of Jesus Christ Q. How can one and the same thing be Bread and the Body of Christ which are two Natures so different A. It is Bread in substance but the Body of Jesus Christ in figure and signification according to the nature of Sacraments which take the name of the things signified as likewise the things signified take the names of their figures even as the Rock in the Desert is called Christ the Paschal Lamb a Passover Circumcision the Covenant of God Jesus Christ the Bread which came down from Heaven the Vine the Door the light c. Q. How know you that these words This is my Body ought to be taken Figuratively A. First Since Jesus Christ by these words instituted a Sacrament they must be understood Sacramentally and Jesus Christ instituting this Sacrament instead of the Passover in which a Lamb is called a passage it was reasonable that in the Sacrament of the New Covenant the sign should take the name of the thing signified even as the other did Secondly Jesus Christ himself would have us to understand it figuratively for he commands us to do this in remembrance of him he would not then have us to Eat his Body really and corporally for we are said to remember only things corporal when absent Thirdly Besides our Saviour gives us this Body as broken and delivered for us now he is not really broken in the Sacrament but only in Figure Fourthly The bread is the Body of Jesus Christ as the Cup is the New Testament of his Blood now a Cup cannot be a New Testament but figuratively neither can the Bread be Christs Body any other way Q. What can you answer to these words of our Saviour where he so plainly says That his flesh is meat indeed and his blood drink indeed John 6.55 A. I say First That in this sixth Chapter of St. John Jesus Christ speaks not of the Lords Supper for it was not then instituted Secondly That the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ is truly the meat and drink of our Souls but not of our Bodies that his Body is spiritual meat and not material and by these words Jesus Christ teacheth us that as truly as Bread and Drink nourishes our Body his Body crucified for us his Blood shed for our Redemption nourishes comforts and fortifies our Souls for what Nourishment is to the Body that Consolation and instruction is to the Soul Q. But this word indeed seems to exclude all Figure A. Not at all but only all doubt or untruth for doth not Jesus Christ say that he is the true Vine John 15.1 and yet he is so only Figuratively Q. How know ye that Jesus Christ speaks of a Spiritual meat and drink in the sixth of St. John A. Because his disciples murmuring at the the hardness of that saying concerning eating his Flesh and drinking his Blood he tells them what if you shall see the Son of Man ascending up where he was before verse 62. insinuating to them that when they should see him ascend into Heaven they should not have such gross apprehensions as to imagine they could corporally eat him on the earth And that they might understand those words spiritually he adds It is the spirit that quickneth the flesh profiteth nothing the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life vers 63. Q. How then can you eat Christ's flesh and drink his blood as he commands us in this Chapter A. Spiritually and by faith which is the mouth of the Soul according to Christ's exhortation in this Chapter vers 35. He that cometh to me shall never hunger and he that believeth on me shall never thirst And it appears that he speaks not of a corporal eating of the Sacrament of Christ's body in this Chapter since he says vers 54. that Whosoever eateth his flesh and drinketh his blood hath life eternal And on the contrary Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood ye have no life in you vers 53. Now it is certain that many of the Elect are dead and could not have this Sacrament And vers 56. he says that He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood dwelleth in me and I in him Then the Manducation of Jesus Christ and his dwelling in us must be understood spiritually for if it be necessary that we eat Jesus Christ corporally that he may
dwell in us by the same reason Jesus Christ should eat us and we should enter into his body that we might dwell in him Q. How is it then that Jesus Christ dwelleth in us and we in him A. Jesus Christ dwelleth in us by his Spirit and we receive him by faith Ephes 3 17. That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith and John 1.12 As many as received him to them gave he power to become the sons of God even to them that believe in his Name To believe in Jesus Christ then is to receive him and 1 Joh. 3.24 And hereby we know that he abideth in us by the Spirit which he hath given us Q. If you take only the figure and not the true body of Jesus Christ in the Lord's Supper what advantage have you more than the wicked and prophane who often take the figure as well as you A. Very much for the wicked only eat the exterior part of the Sacrament with their bodily mouth but Believers together with the Sacrament and Sign eat the thing signified by faith which is the mouth of the Soul viz. the body of Jesus Christ which was crucified for us and drink his blood which was shed for the Redemption of our Souls Q. This eating with the mouth of the Soul seems to be an imaginary thing A. Not at all for as the Soul is as real a thing as the Body so the Operations thereof are as certain and real as those of the Body or rather more certain and if the Body is really nourished by Bread and Wine in the Sacrament the soul is not less nourished and strengthned by imbracing by Faith Jesus Christ our Saviour who died for our sins and rose again for our justification Q. Do you not believe that the eating of the Sacrament of Christs Body doth put into the Body a Seed of immortality as Jesus Christ says John 6.54 Whoso cateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath eternal life and I will raise him up at the last day A. This saving effect doth not accompany the corporal eating of the Sacrament but the effectual working of the Holy Ghost which by Faith produceth a new life in the Elect giveth them an assurance and even beginning of a glorious immortality as we are taught by St. Paul Rom. 8.11 If the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his spirit that dwelleth in you SECT LII Of Communion under both Kinds Quest MAY one lawfully partake of the Sacrament under the sign of Bread only as it is practised in the Church of Rome at this time A. No For Jesus Christ hath said Matth. 26.27 Drink ye all of it Q. But he speaks to his Disciples who were Priests and not to others A. The Apostles did not appear there as Pastors but as the Lords Disciples obliged to obey his Commands and if this Command Drink ye all of it oblige none but Pastours no more doth the other take eat both commands being made to the same persons and consequently then the people must be deprived of the whole Sacrament Q. Have ye no other passage where the people are commanded expresly to partake of the Cup A. St. Paul 1 Cor. 11.28 commandeth all without exception to examine themselves and so Eat of that Bread and Drink of that Cup whoever then are obliged to examine themselves are also obliged to drink of this Cup and since they of the Church of Rome understand the words of Jesus Christ John 6. to be spoken of the Sacrament of the Lords Supper what can they answer to words so express verse 53. Verily verily I say unto you except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood ye have no life in you Q. But what need is there of drinking since under the Species of Bread or of Wine Jesus Christ is wh lly contained A. This evasion comes from a false Supposition that Jesus Christ is corporally and wholly contained in each Crum of Bread even as it is usual for one error to produce more whereas we should mark this that since Jesus Christ hath commanded the Cup to be taken as well as Bread he would not have us believe this pretended Concomitance and Real Corporal substantial presence of his Body but would have us believe that the participation of the Cup is as necessary as the the partaking of the Bread Q. Notwithstanding there are examples of Believers in the Scripture who have taken Bread only in this Sacrament Acts 2.46 It is said that the Lords Disciples continued in the breaking of Bread A. The consequence is most absurd that the Disciples broke Bread therefore consequently they did not partake of the Cup as if we should say there they have eaten consequently they have not drunk but were not the Lords Disciples Priests and Pastours They were certainly obliged then to drink the Cup as well as to break the Bread according to the Opinion of these of the Roman Church that it was to Pastors that Jesus Christ gave this command Drink ye all of it THE END