yée not without cause the Inholders haue smal resort the good houskéeping is decayed men be new-fangled and ouer precise do ye not think they are to be blamed as those which do more hurt then good I suppose ye are not of that minde but that ye doe allow Innekéeping to be a lawful and honest vocation then ye must also allow them to seek such gaine as that they may liue They paie great hous-rent bedding other furniture is verie costly In a worde they buy all things deare How shall they be able to keepe open there doores if it be not lawful for men to meet togeather to spende their time in honest recreation It doth nourish friendship I am bolde to speake in defence of mine Host If he had any worse meaning I am deceiued Orthodox I do not thinke that his meaning was worse then yours neither doth that colour of words which you goe about to colour it with all hide the nakednesse thereof so farre off is it from proouing his meaning or yours to bee good hauing scarce a shew of reason Philodoxos If there bee scarce a shew of reason in my spéech you may the more easely confute it But it wil be harder for you to excuse your vncharitable seuere damning of men then for me to mainteine my saying Orthodox Because I said mine Host is a carnal man without the knowledge of God one that is all for the lustes and pleasures of the fleshe one of those which make their belly their God Yee say I do vncharitably damn men Ye did not heare mee pronounce a finall sentence vppon him But if he continue in the case he is now in there is no doubt Let his owne wordes giue euidence He said the worlde is waxed starke nought because men do not meet togeather to drinck and playe as they were wont The Prophet saith Wo be vnto those which call good euill Isay 5.5 and euill good The Lorde condemneth drunkennesse and gluttonie Idlenesse mispending the time vaine speeches railing fretting quarrelling swearing coueting other mens goods vndoing and beggering Wife and Children by spending their substance all these thinges are rife and ouerflow among those which do méet togeather at play When the Lorde saith these things be euill and mine Host saith the worlde is naught for learning them Is it not plaine that he is a carnal man and knoweth not God You colour it and saye Inholders sit at a great rent and paie dear for all thinges and they must liue If you did know or consider how cursed a thing it is to gather gooddes by such meanes you woulde confesse it were a thousande folde better for to begge He saith the Preachers which cry out against such things be new-fangled is he not thereby apparantlie knowne to be a belly God You would faine helpe him and yee saye if men be new fangled and ouer precise are they not to be blamed Yes no doubt But you must shew that it is to bee new-fangled and ouer precise for to publishe the holy worde of God against such filthie vices Yee say all of yee that good house keping doth decay and the poore they rue it The house kéeping which you mean is that confused ryot where there is aboundaunce of meate and drinke spent euen as well as if it were cast vnto the Dogs Some rich man doth keepe open house for twelue dayes there gather all the idle vnthriftes euen the scum dregs of the people There is such reuill night and day that if a man that hath a godly mind come in hee doth thinke he commeth into a little hell The good creatures of God are wasted vpon most filthie personnes Some man doth loose so much at Cardes that his wife and his children do fare hardly a moneth after The poore may rue that there is more cast away in one daye then woulde serue them a whole weeke The Preachers they keepe not Hospitalitie saith mine Host because they do not follow this order and because sundry haue not the wealth to do it And thus mine Host and those which be iumpe of his religion doe cry out stil to haue the paunch filled If they maye haue one which will make them good cheere though hee neuer minister vnto them any spirituall food yet they are aboundantly satisfied contented But if he bring the foode of the soule neuer so plentifully vnto them and not able to doe the other they make no reckoning thereof Which doth most plainely shewe that they are such as Christe spake vnto Iohn 6. which sought him because he had fedde their bellies And as for the friendship which is gotten and nourished by meeting at play It is small friendship when they fall to it by the eares If they doe agree yet the loue and friendship which is tyed togeather with such cordes is but in the fleshe and not that holye and spirituall loue which God requireth of Christians Philodoxos I did demaunde indeede if they bee not to bee blamed which are new fangled and ouer precise as those which doe more hurt then good I woulde it were not so easie to prooue as it is that they doe more hurt then good by beeing not onely ouer precize and new fangled but rashe and vndiscreet yea if yee will vngodly And why Because they preach against such filthie vices and publishe the holy worde of God No Sir that is good Yee maye not put me to prooue them therefore to be in fault No man wil saye they do hurt thereby But this is vndiscreet and worthy blame that while they make sharpe inuectiues against the abuses they vtterly cōdemn the things thēselues which are indifferent and lawfull Because some when they play doe fret and sweare they will alowe no man to doe it Some doe for couetousnesse reprooue those Others doe it to passe away the time in honest recreation not for anye hurt Why shoulde they be blamed now while they thus condemne the thinges them selues and stay not in reproouing the abuses it causeth questions and contentions and breach of charitie among the people This is a sore wound in a common wealth Where the subiects are to be kept in vnitie one with an other Orthodoxos The Iewes tooke vp stones to stone our sauiour Christ and when hee aunswered and saide Many good workes haue I shewed among ye frō my father Iohn 10. for which of thē doe ye stone me They had their excuse ready For thy good workes we stone thee not but for thy blasphemy that thou being a man makest thy selfe God Such is the excuse and pretence which you and others make against the Preachers of the Gospell let them preach the worde in Gods name that is good Let them also beate downe vice wee can not blame them therfore But we blame them that they deale rashlye in condemning thinges lawfull Well let it be graunted that to play at cardes and dice is a thing of it selfe indifferent and lawfull Yet it must before
of their cause no it is the ignorance and blindnes of the vntaught multitude in which their might is reposed These night birds know right well that where the Sunne shineth ther is small place for thē Let the people be taught to know wholsome doctrine and they will neuer abide the rotten drugges of these Romish Apothecaries Let them see the light and be taught out of the blessed worde that it is damnation to those that rebell againste their Prince yea though it be but a disloyall minde no outward thing practized Let them feele what blessing is come vnto them by a Christian Mother in Israel a nurse of Gods Churche and that they are deepely bound not onely vppon their knees to powre out plentifull prayers vnto God for her but also that it is their duety to aduenture their liues for her defence and you shall haue them farre from giuing eare vnto traiterous persuasions of Iesuites and seminary Priestes Beholde for this cause how those that are known fauourers of the Romish Religion do now bestirre them to throwe downe the Preachers by procuring matters of complaint against them vnto the byshoppes If this dishonour be not done vnto Christ which I haue mentioned this iniurye to his poore Churche and daunger to our soueraigne Queene by heartning and strengthning the handes of her enimies let this my doing bee counted sedicious as I am out of doubt some will not sticke very malitiously to terme it But if it bee as I haue sayde and as many thousandes with griefe doe beholde and can witnesse by whome let me be tried and accounted shamelesse if I lye then I craue that I may not bee blamed for speaking in so waighty causes but euen a little of those things which all the Seruauntes of God ought to cry out of But to what purpose or wher shall there be redresse fought for O ye Byshops euen in this repent repent repent in time that GOD may haue mercye vppon yee Will yee bee offended with him that shall giue ye wholesome counsell or will yee say that yee are wrongfully charged good counsel ye wil say is neuer to be reiected then may it easily be prooued that ye stand in neede of it To let other thinges passe ought not the ministers of the Gospell to bee paterns and examples vnto the flock both in wholsom doctrine and godly conuersation ought they not to be the lights of the worlde and the salt of the earth to season the hearts of the people with spirituall graces to shine vnto them as starres that they may see the paths of life ought they not to feed the lords flock with the bread of life to lead thē into the green pastures and vnto the streams of liuing waters ought they not to seeke vp that which goeth astray to heale that which is diseased and to carry the tender Lambes in their bosom are your ministers with whō ye haue filled the church such or will yee seeke for excuses to make your fault light surely if ye do not repent ye cannot bee saued God doth not respect the personnes of men Wil ye repent at the last and leaue the thing vnrefourmed when ye dye what repentaunce will that be will ye make your prayers vnto God and will he heare them your garmentes being ful of bloud euen the bloud of many soules that perish for want of foode yee would haue those that be ignoraunt and wallowe in their sinnes to be counted Christians that it might not be knowne that the want of teaching destroyeth souls But the word of the Lorde will bee too stronge for ye which teacheth manifestly the necessity thereof Are yee ashamed to bee reprooued by your inferiours when your sinne is manifest It is a shame to continue but no shame at all for a man to amend his fault Do ye count it a discredite to yeelde any thing at all vnto those which are your inferiours haue also their infirmities count it no discredit to relent yeelde vnto the word of God which is free frō all impurity Looke not vppon the offences of any that reprooue yee neither bee delighted to heare slanderous things of them For their sinnes shall be no helpe at all to couer yours before God howsoeuer ye may make them some pretence of your doinges before men The Lorde God of his mercy open your eyes and take pity of his desolate people Amen A Dialogue concerning the strife of our Church The Speakers Orthodoxos a Diuine Philodoxos a Lawyer Philochrematos a Byshops Chaplaine Philedonos an Inne-holder Philedonos GEntlemen ye bee all heartilie welcome I pray you be as merrie as though your cheere were greater If we had better ye shoulde haue better but I hope ye will bee content with such as God sendeth Philochrematos Our cheere doth content vs very well mine hoste we do thanke ye for it Philedonos I could teem it were better but surely In-keeping is cold in sūdry places ouer it hath bin that causeth vs to make slender prouision Philoch How shold that be ther be as many trauellers as euer there were Philedonos Oh sir I graunt ye but our chiefe gaine hereabout doth not stande in that I haue knowne when a dozen or sixteene Gentlemen and wealthie yeomen haue met together and made merrie foure or fiue daies or a weeke at cards or Bowls as the time did serue Nowe all good fellowship is laide aside the worlde is waxen stark nought Philochrematos In deede that was a good helpe to Inne-holders and I think it be much left in manie places men waxe more couetous worldlie they haue not the care they had to maintain loue friendship Philedonos I cannot tell whether they bee more couetous but there be so manie new-fangled Preachers it is greate pittie that they be suffered they marre all for they destroie all good house-keeping Philocrematos It is verie true I haue knowne as much meat spent in one house at a Christmas as is nowe spente in three a lamentable thing the poore do rue it Philedonos They keep small hospitalitie themselues and not content with that they preach and crie out against it in other men I am vnlearned but yet I think a preacher shold keepe good hospitality and commend it in others Philocrematos Naie ye say true for the apostle willeth them to be harberouse 1. Tim. 3. Orthodoxos Ye doe not well to soothe and vpholde mine hoste in his euill speeches for he doth shewe him selfe to be a verie grosse and carnall man he is al for the lusts pleasures of the flesh voide of the true knowledge of God not hauing anie taste of spiritual things one of those which as the Scripture saith make their bellie their God Philodoxos Yee mistake mine hoste ye do him great wrong to giue such seuere and sharpe sentence against him I obserued and weied all his speeches so farre as I can conceiue he vttered nothing worthie rebuke hee complaineth and I warrant
raise vp contention Philochrematos Yee shewe your selfe more and more to be vncharitable euen as all the pack of yee are to crie out against your brethren and your betters that they destroie mens souls that they be seducers and false Prophetes how will you bee able to prooue that they seduce or that they be like the false Prophetes this doth shew what spirit yee be of Yee haue taught your tonges to slander Such as you doe bewitch the people and are false Prophetes a company of Asses and dolts Orthodoxos When other men speake the truth they be vncharitable but when you do lye and slaunder and raile yea euen in the pulpit Asses dolts cockescombes cockadodles for this is the Rethorike of diuers of yee yet you are still charitable and graue wise fathers I know it is necessarye it shoulde be prooued who are seducers and false prophets For this yee shall finde that among the Iewes those that were false prophetes did call the true Prophetes seducers This yee may see betweene Ieremias and the false Prophetes Likewise Mychaiah 1. Kinges 22. is counted a false Prophet We say the Papistes are seducers and false Prophets They say the like of vs. But the triall is all And how shall we trie this matter Surely euen by the qualities Those are the false Prophets and seducers which deale so with the people as the false Prophetes did in the olde time The children of Israell were meruailous wicked walking in all kinde of vices despising the holye worde of God When the Lorde sent his Prophetes vnto them calling vppon them to forsake their wicked wayes and to tourne vnto the Lorde threatning the iudgementes and vengeaunce of God vnlesse they did retourne The false Prophetes laboured as fast on the other side to flatter them and to make them beléeue they were in good case The Lord complaineth of them Iere. 23.14 That they strengthened the handes of the wicked that they should not retourne euery one from his euil And a little after in the same Chapiter he sheweth how They say vnto those that despise me the Lord hath sayde yee shal haue peace and to euerye one that walketh in the stubbernesse of his owne heart they saye there shall no euill come vppon yee Marke well if it bee not so at this day among vs Wickednesse aboundeth most horriblely When the Godly Preachers do vehemently threaten vengeance vnlesse they retourne Are there not by and by others that step vp and find fault that men should be threatned with Gods iudgements God is mercifull saye they we must preach the Gospel Yée be Christians all men are sinners Yea they tell those that are drowned in all wickednesse and which despise the word of God yee be Christians yee be honest men and good subiects Those that finde fault with yee doe iudge and therefore are deuilishe Is not this to strengthen the hands of the wicked that they should not returne from their wickednes to beare them in hand they be good Christians and shall do well ynough Looke in Ezechiel chapter 13. ver 22. They make the heart of the righteous sad by lying whom I woulde not make sad sayth the Lord and strengthen the handes of the wicked that he should not returne from his wickednesse Who doth not see that this kinde of false Prophet is amonge vs euerye where which doth in Sermons séeke to deface such as haue care to imbrace the holy word in such sort that it can not but make sad the heart of euery good man to heare it And how much are the wicked encouraged and strengthened by such Sermons Yée shall see them euen skippe for ioye Here is one saye they which doth fetch vp these Gospellers these gadders to Sermons This is a graue man this is a learned Doctor Also looke in Micah Chapter 2. ver 11. If a man or one that lyeth prophesie vnto thee of wine and strong drink he shall be the Prophet to this people The false Prophets sought that way to please the wicked belly Gods of the worlde which were giuen to follow their lusts and pleasures And what say our Prophets Yee may go to the Alehouse and drincke and be merry togeather yee may daunce yée may play at Cardes and bowles vpon the Sabboth daye yee maye recreat your selues yée haue fréedō in Christ they seduce and bewith men that do refraine them as though men néeded to be encouraged to such pleasures Philochrem Nay those are false Prophets which teach the people disobedience and such are these Puritans they will not obey lawes and by their example they teach the people disobedience Orthodoxos There is no doubt but those are false Prophetes which teach the people disobedience And as for the Puritans their doctrine and practize is this That men must obey the higher powers vnder paine of damnation but when any thing is commanded which is against gods word we must obey God rather then men This doctrin is to be taught and practized in the daies of most Godly and most christian Princes If this be to teach the people disobedience I can not tel what to say I feare me it wil be founde that manye of those which boaste and brag of obedience hauing in their mouth nothing but obedience obedience euen as if they were obedience it self do breake mo laws the same of greater importance thē those whō they charge so déeply and the by the same means gods glory is trodē down the Church laid wast mens souls destroyed dangerous enemies to the Prince state of the common wealth bred and nourished Philochrematos It is the property of yée all to bee full of accusations against others and especially against your betters this is your deuilish spirit when yee are not able to prooue that which yee say It is greatly to be wished that there were seuere punishment for such slanderous tongs which are so bolde to finde fault at their pleasure and to controll such as be in office authoritie For by this means the people and al are drawne on to prattle and talke of matters which belong not vnto thē A lamentable case what disorder is brought in by yee whereby God is dishonoured his Church troubled and mens soules destroyed and the Papists bred and nourished and when al this commeth to passe yee woulde shift it from your owne shoulders and laye it vpon others But all wise men do see well ynough where the blame is to be layd and doe lament it I am loath to spend many wordes let vs heare some of these things prooued Orthodoxos The end wil shew who be slanderers and who they are which are led with a deuilish spirit It greeueth yee sore that yee are spoken of especially by the people Yee wishe there were seuere punishment for slaunderers Why is this because yee hate slaundering No but yee would not haue any so much as whisper of those grose thinges which are amisse in yee The people must be like dumbe Asses
goe about to put out thirtie or fortie in a shire and then to saie where shall we haue preachers is an odde kinde of question To fill vp the roomes so soone as they be voide with Taylers and seruingmen or such like so that the learned men in the Vniuersities not called foorth do hold stil their fellowships in Colledges the yong men therby constrained for want of maintainance depart from thence before they be halfe ripe some to teach schollers some into gentlemens houses manie to pop into the ministery before they bee méete to guide themselues and then to demaund where shall wee haue learned men is also verie absurd To the seconde I aunswere that if Bishops Deanes and all the fat ones of the Cleargie did not loue their owne bellyes more then the thinges which are of the Lorde Iesus and if they did not esteeme the pompe pleasures and richesse of the worlde more then mens soules there would be such sufficiencie of maintenaunce that if there were fiue Preachers where ther is but one yet none of them should be so bare as to liue with 20. pounde by the yeare We read Actes 4. that when the Church was in need such as had possessions sold them to relieue the bodies of the bretheren that wanted How much more then ought those which haue their thousandes to imploy and bestow the same to haue the soules of men fedde Mens soules do famish you saye if it be so it is because in manie places they haue not maintenaunce for a Preacher I praye yee which of the fedde men haue deminished their pompe their richesse and pleasures which neuer did penyworth of good in the Church to set vp faithfull Teachers What drop of zeale for Gods glory doth appear in manie of thē But if this seeme harde as it will to worldly minded mē yet why haue they cōsented that a number should do nothing but hunt after benefices prefermentes and to heap vp liuing vpon liuing so that one mā must haue the portions of fiue or six some which are past this haue put all their treasure in one bag will confesse this is abhominable but which of thē doth seek redres If the people be in so good case as you say thē ther needeth no redresse For you say they be wel are come frō popery I maruel to what they be come they say in deed that the pope is naught but try thē ye shal find that they are stuffed ful of popish and supersticious opinions which are contrary to the wholsom doctrine of the gospel The scriptures euery where doe describe true Christians to bee holye and pure and full of the knowledge of God And as for those that walke in darkenesse wallowing in all filthie vices the Lorde denounceth vengeaunce against them When the true and faithfull Preachers doe teach men that they can not be saued vnlesse they tourne from their euill wayes seeking after the true knowledge of God and walke woorthie of the same and that such as be supersticious such as be swearers such as bee couetous such as be drunkards and Adulterers such as be ignorant despisers of the knowledge of the will of God finally such as liue in anie abhominable vices are not true Christians by and by like warriers for the Deuils kingdom ye saie we would haue the people become Puritans A man can not so soone mislike grose sins but straightway O syr you like none but Puritans You iudge and condemne men Howe can you tell who haue faith Surely if this bee not to seduce to harden and strengthen men in their wickednesse I know not what is Might not all this bee spoken to the Prophetes of God in olde time by the false Prophetes which did flatter the wicked euen as such as you be doe now It woulde make a mans heart bleed to see in what case multitudes of people are for want of teaching and yet you say they be wel The greatest multitude by manye partes doe not vnderstande the Lordes prayer the ten Commaundementes or the Articles of the faith or the doctrine and vse of the Sacramentes in anye competent measure There be thousandes which bee men and women growen which if a man aske them howe they shall be saued they can not tell As for wickednesse in pride enuie hatred al sinns that can be named almost it doth ouerflowe yet you are not ashamed to say are they not christians do they not call vpon God at their ende This is the deuinitie of some of our great diuines at this day Let men liue as they lust in ignoraunce and all abhominations so they call at the last and say Lorde haue mercy vppon me we must iudge their estate as good as the best As though the Lorde had not sayde Yee shall crye and not be heard Prouerb 1. And as though such as know not the faith beeing brought vp in blindnesse coulde of a soudden euen at their pleasure pray in faith without doubting For the Scripture sheweth that he which doth doubt in his prayer shall obtayne nothing Iames. 1. Our sauiour willeth men to striue to enter in at the straight gate shewing that fewe shall finde it If a man maye follow his lustes and walke in the blindnesse of his heart all his life and then a little calling at the last would serue What hardnesse were in it When yee tell men God is mercifull all men sinne what shoulde yee make your selfe more holy then other Yee ouerthrow all the doctrine of regeneration and all the precepts which the Apostles doe giue for walking worthie the Gospell You make the good and the bad in one condition as though there were no profite to serue the Lord as he complaineth Malachy 3. But wherefore doe great men now a dayes take it so grieuously the anye difference of men should be made Surely I will tell yee the cause They would not haue their treason against the Church of Christ espied when they thrust vppon them wicked and vnlearned ministers For they woulde haue men taught and men vntaught men Godly and men wicked all in one account that it might not appeare howe they murther mens soules Nay yee like best as yee confesse of those that be ignoraunt And why Because they are quiet In deed you are least troubled with those which be moste ignoraunt for they can not espie your dealing Such as haue knowledge in Gods worde can saye what a wolfe is this he hath three benefices and setteth a Tailer in one a drunckard in an other And how he flaunts it He doth visite them once in a yeare to see that they doe him no wrong in his tithes Philochrem If I had authoritie I would punish yee sharply and make yee carrie a better tongue in your head For if this may be suffered we shall haue euerie man a controller shortly Yee are the vilest men that liue and indeed such as do most hurt of all others Yee are a pestilent generation
in my iudgement worse then the Papistes Orthodoxos Who could imagine that in this great light of the Gospell it might come to passe that for speaking against such thinges as God doth flatly condemne in his worde men should bee counted the vilest persons that liue A pestilent generation Worse then the Papistes For what is it which we condemne in the ministerie but such thinges as the Lorde him selfe hath first condemned We crie out againste ambition couetousnesse greedines in heaping vp liuings worldly pompe idlenesse and such like We finde fault that vnfit men both for learning and conuersation are set to be guides ouer the Lordes people Doth not the Lorde by his Prophetes and Apostles reprooue the same And yet if you had authoritie we must be sharpelie punished All men maye see what spirite doth possesse your heart when you woulde sharpelie punish for reproouing that which the Lord him selfe reprooueth If yee did punishe me all the world shoulde see that it were for speaking against vice But I know you wil say it is not for speaking against vices but for charging such men as are free from thē The world were wonderfully chaunged if these vices were not to be found and whither they abound among vs let al men iudge that be indifferent Then when they be spoken against no particuler men named but among many some are blamed why shold those which are not guilty take it grieuously Let those wintch which haue galled backs for they say rub the galled horse and he will wintch and some Horse is so pitiously galled that if a man come into the Stable and doe but point towardes him he will snib and take on for feare the finger shoulde touche his backe Euen so play you for if you had authority you woulde punish me sharply We are charged to doe the moste hurt of all others surely then it is vnto non-residents double beneficed men idle and slow-bellies vnlearned Ministers that this hurt is done by vs for in trueth it is the part which you defend which doth the hurt First vnto the Lord God then vnto our soueraign Lady and gracious Queene and lastly vnto her faithfull subiects Philochrematos This is a foule and a shamefull slander and in my mind you woulde bee driuen and forced to make proofe of your wordes and bee made to recant them I knowe your speech doth tend euen against some that are chiefe Ministers in the Church It is not meete that inferiour personnes shoulde speake of them and of their doings Orthodoxos There shall neede no greate inforcement to make me prooue that which I haue saide For if I can not shew it to be true let me loose my life My wordes tend against those that are guilty and none else whether they be cheefe Ministers or otherwise and whereas you say that it is not meete that inferiour persons should speake of cheefe ministers and of theire dooings the Pope can challenge no more The people spake of oure Sauioure Christ and he was content they should scan his doings The people did speak of the blessed Apostle S. Peter found fault that he had gone in vnto men vncircumcised and had eaten with them because he had beene with Cornelius Peter doth not disdaine but satisfieth them concerning his fact Actes 11. But the Pope and his generation are so highe aboue CHRISTE and his Apostles that they maye not bee spoken of Well against whomsoeuer it bee I sayde that the part which you defende dothe the hurte vnto God to oure gratious Prince and to her true subiectes And nowe I will shew ye how First by the corrupt ministerie Gods name is dishonoured because his holie ordinance is defiled and brought into contempt the dignity of his Sonne Iesus Christ is abased when ther are put into that office which hee had and doe represente his person such as men woulde scarce trust to keepe their Swine Notable iniurie is done by this meanes also vnto our Queenes moste excellent Maiestie because it hath long time endangered her moste roiall person by strengthning her enemies For where the people are kept in blindenesse the Iesuites can easilie worke vppon them there neede no greate perswasions but to tell the poore ignoraunte creatures that this is a newe religion and will not you doe as youre Graundfather and youre greate Graundfather did Will you bee wiser then they Doe yee think they be damned they knew not this learning You may see what manner of Gospell this is when they make suche Ministers Was not your Minister a Cobler Was not the Minister of such a place an Innekeeper vntill he was bancrupt And thus they maye leade them at theire pleasure Againe who is able to reckon vp the manifolde disorders and abuses that spring from the Dumbe and vngodly Ministerye and let a man speake agaynste any of the same abuses and disorders Shall hee not by and by heare this O sir you will bee wiser then the Queene and her Counsayl they allow of these things and will haue it thus Is not this a shamefull iniurye doone vnto her Maiestye and her moste Honourable Counsayle when all suche matters shall bee cast vppon their shoulders Furthermore from whence doth the great aboundaunce of all kinde of wickednesse and prophanesse among the people spring but from thence that they want instruction and doth not this indaunger the state of the prince and the whole Lande doth not the Lorde greeuously plague whole Kingdomes for sinne lastly the iniury done to the people is manifest Solomon saith he that keepeth backe his corne the people doe curse him Howe much greater is the wrong when the breade of life vppon which their soules shoulde feede is taken from them Thus haue I shewed by whome the hurt is done It might be shewed in an hundred thinges but these are manifest and of great importaunce Philochrematos You and your fellowes do the hurt as I said before and then ye woulde lay it vpon others And after ye haue vttered some imaginations then there be an hundred things in which it might be shewed Your tong is not so tied but that it would be walking if there were such matters Look whatsoeuer ye say it must goe for payment after ye haue made some shew in that ye haue deuised Ye are euē conspired with the Papists ye haue the very properties of the Annabaptistes and he that shall marke the end shall see what it will come to if ye bee let alone But I pray God ye may bee cut short and that we may not any further feele the effect of your seditious doctrine I hope ye will be seene vnto speedily Orthodoxos Whether they be imaginations which I haue vttered I leaue to the iudgement of such as bee wise I doubt not but if they be thoroughly wayed they shall be founde exceeding waighty You gather by my silence that I haue no matters Surely I dare affirm that he which shall take vpō him to vtter al particulers in such abuses