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in the parable imputeth it to the sleepines and negligence of the servants that tares were sowen amongst his wheat Mat. 13. 35 38 39. Ergo Pastors are to be blamed that there be scandalous persons in the visible Church Answ. This doth but strengthren Anabaptists who objected the same It is a fault that a very popish Doctor Aquinas condemneth Theologia symbolic● non est argumentativa For it is not said while the servants sleeped the envious man did s●w his seed but while men sleeped which is spoken saith Pareus according to the manner of men for otherwise Gods providence can hinder the growing of tares and Cajetan saith here is not accused the negligence of pastors and certainly since as Bullinger observeth well Christ when he expoundeth the parable passeth this part of it to teach us as Calvin saith not to presse every part and tittle of a parable except we would be saith Bullinger Christo argutiores sharper sighted then Christ and therefore the Author alleadgeth that by sleeping of men is understood the negligence of pastors but that is beside the Text and is not expounded at all of Christ but signifieth that men cannot see the hollownesse and falsehood of Hypocrites till it breake out in their actions no more then the sleeping husbandman can see when weeds grow up in his F●elds And if the Lord here condemne the sleepinesse of Pastors for suffering scandalcus Professors to be members of the Church how doth the Lord forbid these servants to plucke up the tares but to let them grow till Harvest for he commandeth the officers to cast out of the Church and excommunicate the scandalous persons Yea certainly seeing the Field is the Field of the visible church it maketh for us against our Brethren that wicked men are growing in the visible church It is true that Barow with the Anabaptistes expound the Field to be the Field of the World mistaking Christs Words v. 41. which indeed signifie the Field of the visible Kingdome of Christ because the World of all mortall men is not the Lords Field where he soweth his Wheate but the visible Church only is such a Field For seeing the Gospell the immortall seed of the regenerate 1 Pet. 1. 23. is not sowen through the whole World of mortall men Psal. 147. 19 20. Mat. 10. 5 6. Acts 16. 6. but only in the visible Church the Field must be Christs Field or his World of Church-Professors And also by this their exposition falleth for then it is the sleepines and sloth of Preachers that wicked men are borne in the World of mortall men which is absurd We are bidden 2 Tim. 3. 5. Turne away from such as have a form of godlines and have denied the power thereof Ergo we cannot joyne in Church communion with them Answ. It is cleare by this argument to our Brethren that one and the same reason holdeth for turning away and separation from all persons and Churches which are not inchurched by covenant and constituted of visibly regenerated persons and the not admitting Church-members So our Brethren by this professe the lawfulnesse of separation from all Churches except from their owne 2. No marvell then Paul will have Timothy to separate from Apostates and from Resisters of the truth v. 8. and from proud boasters blasp●emers Traitors For such are to be excommunicated as 1 Tim. 6. 3. 5. At l●quitur Paulus saith Parkerus de fundamentali corruptione istius Doctrinae qu● est secundum pi●tatem but Paul here forbiddeth to exhort the proud and malitious blasphemers and resisters of the Truth and not to waite upon them any longer whereas otherwise he had said in the end of the preceding Chapter 24. 25. 26. Others who are detained in the snare of Satan must be waited on and instructed with meekenesse if God will give them Repentance Ergo Tim thy was as a Pastor to instruct unconverted persons and to joyne in communion with them but as for desperate enemies and blasphemers he was not to waite on them nor to exhort them with meekenesse And if this Text prove any thing it will conclude against our Brethren that such as deny the power of godlinesse should not be hearers of the Word and farre lesse as our Breathren reason members of the visible Church Can any sayth the Author judge such persons fit materials for the constituting and edifying of a Church who are more fit for the ruine and destruction of the Church such as leave their first love as all hypocrites will at length do they procure the removall of the candlestick Answ. The argument must be thus formed All these whom God intendeth shall edifie and not ruine the Church are to be only members of the visible Church but all knowen hypocrites are such Ergo. The proposition is false for if we speake of Gods secret Intention and his decreeing Will It is not a rule for the Church to square and to regulate them in the choysing or refusing Church-members because God intendeth in his decreeing wi●l that many hypocrites such as Judas and D●mas shall be Church-members and let our Brethren judge if they be fit materialls to edifie the Church If we speake of Gods revealed will the proposition also is false for by our Brethrens Doctrine it is Gods revealed will that the Church receive as Church-members latent hypocrites such as Simon Magus Acts 8. who are conceived to be regenerated as the church Acts 8. conceived Simon Magus to be a sound Believer as our Brethren say and yet latent hypocrites are no lesse unfit materialls to build the Church then knowen hypocrites 2. We doe not thinke that hypocrites fallen from their first love and by scandalous living declaring themselves to be such should bee kept in the Church But so the Author alleadgeth Revel 2. That the Church of Ephesus falling from her first love must bee a false constituted Church in which there were members fitter to ruine then to edifie the Church And yet certaine it is Paul Eph. 1. and Christ Rev●l 2. acknowledgeth the Church of Ephesus to be a true visible Church We passe saith the Author the types of the Old Testament which yet are not without their due weight Rough stones were not laid in the building of Salomons Temple till they were hewen and prepared before 1 King 6. 7. and behold a greater then Salomen is h●re the attendance of the porteres suffering none to enter into the Temple who were uncleane 2 Chron. 23. 19. doth evidently type forth the watchfulnesse of the officers of Christs Church to suffer none uncleane in estate or in this course of life to enter into the fellowship of the Church which ought to be a communion of Saints Their apology sayth though all Israel were admitted to the fellowship of the Ordinances administrated in the synagegne yet none uncleane were admitted into the Temple for Revel 21. without are dogs c. So Master Can and Robinson
is preached in the Word and as joynt communicating of hypocrites and Believers is an externall Church-communion ought to seale an internall communion with Christ and his Church so the joynt-hearing in a professed adjoyning to the visible Church it a compartning visible in a visible worship and a prosessing of an union with that same Christ and his Church in the same word preached For as the Apostle concludeth the unity of the catholick Church by one Baptisme so doth he conclude it from one faith and one Lord of the covenant preached to all 2. The visible Church of called and chosen and not chosen is the scope of the parable Mat. 22. and Luk. 14. 16. 17. c. Now v. 9. Mat. 21. All are bidden come to the Supper and be joynt-hearers of the Word of the Gospell though all be not choses who are externally called 1. Also if converting of soules to the Faith of Christ be the most formall and specifick act of edifying and of laying stones upon the chiese corner stone in the building 1 Pet. 2. 4. 5. seeing edifying is the end whereof Christ ascending on high gifted his visible Church with Pastors and Doctors Eph. 4. 11 12 13. Then hea●ing and joynt-hearing of a sent Pastor Rom. 10. 14. must be formally externall co●worshiping in a visible Church For our Brethren hold that there be now no Pastors under the New Testament but in relation to a particular and visible congregation Now if our Brethren say that pastorall teaching is an act of a visible Church hearing of pastorall preaching must also be an act of Church worship For they are relata quae se mutuo ponunt tollunt yea members of a visible congregation have no Church-worship except receiving of the Sacraments and Church censures if hearing of a pastor be not Church-worship 3. Under the New Testament every congregation to our Brethren is a visible mount Sion Now if under the New Testament the people are to incite one another to publick Church worship and say Let us go to the mountaine of the Lord to the house of the God of Jacob. and he will teach us his wayes Esa. 2. 3. And if they shall publickly worship and aske the way to Sion that they may be joyned in covenant to the Lord Jer. 50. v. 5. Then is hearing of he doctrine of Gods wayes and covenant a publick church-worship and the service of the Church or house of the God of Jacob But the former is true Ergo so is the latter 4. If it be not Church-worship to heare the Word a pure and sound preaching of the Word is no note of the Church contrary to the Word and the unanimous consent of the Reformed Churches 5. Hearing of the word is a worshiping of God Ergo the Church-hearing of the word must be Church-worship For all professing by their visible communion in hearing the Word one Faith one Lord one Hope of glory and that as one visible body must thereby testifie they be all joynt-joynt-worshippers of Christ and of one God whose covenant they preach and heare 6. Professed hearing separateth a visible member of the church in genere notarum visibilium in the kind of visible marks from an Infidell and Turke no lesse then the receiving of the Lords Supper doth 7. Professed hearing maketh the hearer under a ty of being particularly rebuked of his sinne but particular pastorall rebuking being done by the power of the keyes presupposeth the rebuked to be within for the Church cannot judge those who are without 2. Conclu Excommunicated persons though they be debarred from the Lords Supper and delivered to Satan and to be accompted as heathen and publicans yet are they not altogether and every way cut off from the visible Church 2. Thess. 3. 14. If any obey not our word by letter ●arke such an one 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 with the note of Excommunication saith Beza and have no fellowship with him that he may be ashamed that is as Calvin well expoundeth exclude him out of the company of the faithfull and excommunicate him So also Bullingerus Marlorat and Iodoc. Vullichius v. 15. Yet accompt him not as an enemy but admonish him as a brother I know Mr. Robinson denieth this place to be understood of any Excommunicated person but he willeth the Thessalonians not to countenance but to shew their dislike of idle persons and his reasons are 1. Because if Christ biddeth accompt the excommunicated person as an Heathen and a publican would Paul thereafter accompt him as a brother 2. Idolaters and Hereticks are to be excommunicated and will you have such a brotherhood as brother idolater But I answer 1. We read not in the New Testament where Christ or his Apostles bid break off Christian fellowship with any but there is excommunication signified If these words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 have no fellowship with him that he may be ashamed signifie not to forbeare fellowship with him as a cast out person but only to shew their dislike of the sin that he may see it and be ashamed as Robinson sayth there is no more punishment to be inflicted on a contumacious person who will not obey the Apostles words then is inflicted for any sinne to which contumacy is not added for we are to shew our dislike of any sinne even the seene infirmities of our Brethren For Augustine saith peccatum tuum est quic quid tibi non displicet every sin in another is thine against which thou shewest not thy dislike 2. The Law of nature doth inforce that Lev 19. 17. we should generally rebuk our brethren and so shew our dislike for any sinne 3. Be not mixed in fellowship with such a man is a publicke ab●●nence from communion with him else it doth not shame him For every showen dislike or not-communion with another in his sinne is not that which will put publick shame on him that he may repent as is intimated here 2. Christ biddeth not accompt him a Publican but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is a note of similitude Simile qua simile non est idem Every thing like is not the same So that he may well be accompted as an Heathen not being altogether an Heathen and yet a Brother whose salvation and gaining you must intend Nor is it altogether against the comparison of Christ and that gentle waiting on perverse idolaters and excommunicate persons to admonish them as Brethren Seing it becommeth us to be mercifull as our Heavenly Father is 2 Tim. 2 24 25. Mat. 5. 45. And we must forgive our offending Brethren seventy seven times Mat. 18. 22. And therefore though he were twice excommunicated he is to be dealt with as a Brother And an Idolatrous brother is no worse then a Samaritan neighbour or friend 2. If Excommunication be a medicine of the Church toward a sick sonne the end whereof is salvation that the spirit may be saved in the Lords Day 1 Cor. 5. 5.
flow immediately and necessarily from the essence of a Church and a congregation be essentially a Church then this power agreeth to all Churches whether consociated or not consociated and without respect of what neighbours they have whether many or few whether any or none 2. A congregation its alone cannot have sole power of jurisdiction and then be deprived of it when God sendeth neighbour Churches for then neighbouring Churches which are given for helpe should be given for losse the contrary whereof Ames saith Nor doe Synods saith he constitute a new forme of a Church Answ. Power of Iurisdiction floweth from the essence of a congregation in an Iland Ergo a totall and compleat power of jurisdiction floweth from the essence of a Church or congregation consociated it followeth no wayes so a pastor of a Congregation hath as a pastor power to rebuke sinne and to administrate the Sacraments Ergo when three pastors are added to help him he hath the sole power of rebuking sinne and the sole and entire power to administrate the Sacraments and none of these three pastors hath power with him it followeth not and because these three pastors are added to help him and their pastorall power added to him is cumulative and auxiliary but not privative or destructive of his pastorall power therefore the first pastor suffereth losse by the addition of these three to him who will say this our Brethren do conceive the power of Congregations in its kind and essence to be Monarchicall so as if any power from consociated Congregations be added thereunto the Congregations power Monarchicall is d minished and the essence of it changed 2. Compleat and entire power to rule both the Congregation and the Members of consociated Churches in so far as they do keep communion with that Congregation and may either edifie or scandalize them floweth not immediatly and necessarily from the essence of every Congregation even in remote Islands not consociated with others that we never said 3. A power to governe well and according to the rule of the word added to another power to governe well and according to the word is an auxiliary power and no way destrective of that power to which it is added indeed a power to governe well added to a power of male administration in a Congregation is distructive of that power and reason it should be so because Christ never gave any such power of male administration to a Congregation but a power of right governing added to a power of right governing is neither destructive thereof nor doth it constitute a new forme of a Church or a Church power but only inlarge the pr●existent form to extend it selfe farther for the edification of more soules But saith Mr. Mather if it be against the light of nature that the adverse party be the sole judge which must be if the s●le power of Iurisdiction be in the Congregation as we grant in an extraordinary case when a Congregation is in an Island its alone and so it shall be lawfull for a single Congregation to doe that which is against all equity and the very light of nature it must then follow that it is not against the light of nature that a Congregation though consociated with other Congregations have entire jurisdiction within it selfe Answ. None of us do teach that it is against the light of nature that the adverse party be the judge it might fall out in a generall councell lawfully convened from which there is no provocation yea and in a nationall councell for all councels may erre the adverse party may judge as it was a lawfull councell according to a Church-constitution that condemned Christ of blisphemy and they were also his enemies but we teach that it is not congruous to the wisdome of Christ nor to the light of nature that Christ should have appointed all the ordinary Churchcourts so many thousand congregations who may rather erre then extraordinary and higher Synods to be the onely ordinary judges in their owne cause Nor doth any thing more follow from this argument that when there is one congregation its alone in an Iland destitute of the helpe of consociated Churches which is a defect of an extraordinary providence of Christ in that one singular exigence that that congregation shall be both judge and party in its owne cause if we suppose that one Micaiah shall contend for the truth and all the rest of the Prophets and people of that congregation to be against the truth and to judge and condemne one man who seeketh the Lord in truth It is a wonder to me that Thessalonica was but one single congregation all hearing one Word partakers of one Lords Supper at one Table yet the Apostle ascribeth to them that which is a note to worthy Baynes of the numerous multitude of the Church of Ierusalem from whence went the Word of God to all the world 1 Thes. 1. 8. For from you sounded out the Word of the Lord not onely in Macedonia and Achaia but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad I deny not what Mr. Mather and Thomson say but 5000 may meet to heare the word and many thousands were gathered together Luke 12. to heare Christ but these reverend brethren doe leave out 1. The inconvenience of thronging so all at once for they trode one upon another 2. Christ preached not to all those thousand at once for it is expresly said v. 1. He began to say to his Disciples So Christ refusing to preach to such a disorderly confluence of people who could not heare and his doctrine being all for his Disciples the very Sermon being preached to his Disciples onely Matth. 10. 2 3 4 c. and the Parable of the rich man v. 22. he applieth to his Disciples Then he said to his Disciples therefore I say unto you take no thought for your life c. It evidenceth to me that Christ condemneth a numerous multitude in one congregation to heare at once And whereas Chrysostome saith 5000 persons did heare his voyce at once in one congregation by meanes of Scaffolds and Galleries and Mr. Mather is willing to yeeld eight thousand an hundred and twenty were all assembled in one place to heare the Word and that all the multitude of converts at Ierusalem were together in Salomons porch Act. 5. 12. I grant three thousand could heare one at once but alas this is a great uncertainty for independent congregations But 1. this is to be proved that eight thousand Mr. Mather hath not added many other multitudes mentioned Act. 5. 14. Act. 6. 1. v. 7. and elsewhere did meet daily in the Temple 2. Daily and ordinarily from house to house 3. To celebrate the Lords Supper daily in the Temple and in every private house there were need of many Scaffolds and Galleries to sit at one Table 4. To make one judicature and have more then power of consenting in Church censures as our brethren
Latine 3 A direction is put on the Prophets on these who speake with Tongues that they be not children in understanding and that they be in malice as children but as concerning understanding men v. 20. which agreeth well to Prophets as they are ordinary Pastors 4 What more ordinary then the comming together of the whole Church for prophecying v. 23. 24. and convincing of unbelievers a● 25. 5 the Prophets are to be limited to a way of speaking to edification as he who speaketh with Tongues who must speake by an Interpreter or then be silent in the Church v. 27. 28. 6 These Prophets a● our ordinary Prophets must speake orderly and that but one at once to eschew confusion v. 29. 7 What they speake is to be judged and put under censure for the whole Colledge must judge v. 29. 8. 8 And as the women are here put under a rule when to speak and when to be silent v. 34. 35. So are these prophets all which and divers other rules doe regulate our ordinary Prophets which clearely saith to me that this is a patterne of a Colledge of ordinary Prophets under that same policy and rules of policy as the ordinary Colledge of Pastors at Corinth and 3. To this Colledge agreeth a power dogmaticall of judging and censuring the Doctrine of the Prophets delivered 29. let the Prophets speak two or three and let the other judge This is not a power of judging that every Christian hath For 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 saith Piscator doth relate to the Prophets who are to judge But as I take it a propheticall judging which may by good anology warrant the juridicall power of a presbytery to judge and examine these who preach the word that there creep not in false Teachers into the Church And for Ephesus The huge number of Believers and yet making one Church Rev. 2. 2. saith that Ephesus was a presbyteriall Church as many circumstances evince Acts 19. for 1. Paul established twelve men Prophets who spake with Tongues and prophecied To what end did Paul set up twelve Labourers at Epheseus with diverse languages but to establish divers Assemblies did they all meet dayly in one house with Paul to heare him and turned silent Prophets themselves when they were indeed with the gift of Tongues to speake to the edification of Assemblies of divers tongues It is not credible 2. And v. 10. Paul continued here for the space of two yeares and was this for one competent number who did all meet in one private house how can this be credible 3. All that dwelt in Asia heard the Word of the Lord Iesus both Jewes and Greeks then in great Ephesus there behoved to be more then one Congregation 4. The great miracles done by Paul v. 11. 12. to admiration of all and to procure the imitation of false Prophets 5. The name of the Lord Iesus was magnified by the Iewes and Greeks that dwelt at Ephesus 6. There behoved to be a great work of God when great Ephesus turned to the faith It is 1. Remarkable that Christ the wisdome of the father directed his Apostles to the most famous Cities to cast out their nets for conquering of soules to Christ as in Indea they came to Samaria and to great Jerusalem in Syria to Antiochia in Grecia to Corinth in Italy to Rome in Asia the lesse to Ephesus now the Scripture is cleare the Apostles that ever we read planted but one Church as is cleare in one City in Ierusalem in Antiochia in Corinth in Rome in Ephesus and observe the basis and prime principle of our Brethrens independent Churches doth all ly upon this meer conjecture that the Lords Grace did restrict and limit the fruits of the triumphing Gospell in the hands of the Apostles the conquerors of the World to Iesus Christ that they planted but in the greatest Cities they came to and they appoynted Elders in every City onely one poore single Congregation as a patterne of all independent Churches and this consisted of no more then could meet conveniently in one House for Word Sacraments one Lords Table and one Ecclesiasticall Church court for censures Certainly this Church being a patterne to all instituted Churches could not exceed the number of a thousand men or two thousand Believers and this is a greater number by some hundreds I am sure then can make a competent Church-meeting and I hope no man could say we erred if we should now make eight or ten thousand one Congregation in ordinary as our Brethren say the first Congregationall Church of Jerusalem wa● B●t 2. This City was the mother City and flower of Asia 2. It was noble because of Diana's Temple the length whereof was foure hundred and twenty five foot the breadth two hundred and twenty foot the pillars were an hundred and twenty seven the height of every pillar was sixty foot Amongst which there were thirty pillars most curiously carded Others say they were an hundred and thirty seven pillars made by severall Kings the Temple was built by all Asia for the space of two hundred and twenty some say fourty yeares It was inlarged by Alexander And thither came all Asia the lesse to the Temple of great Diana For they had no other Religion here dwelt the proconsull of Asia as saith Philostratus It abounded with artes and Sciences Philosophers and Orators Chrysostom saith that in it were Pythagaras Parmenides Zeno Democritus it was compassed with excellent Cities and noble for Asiatick commodities see Plinius and Alexander Neopolitanus Ignatius highly commendth it from the purity of the Gospell All this I relate not as an unpertient digression but to shew that the Gospell behoved to be more mighty here then that Paul set up but one single Congregation and an Eldership congregationall only Acts 20. 28. v. 36. 37. Especially consider what Beasts Paul fought with at Ephesus for here were many Jewes who opposed him 2. All the multitude by the instigation of Demetrius avowing that their Diana was the goddesse not only of Ephesus but of all Asia yet God made the word so mightily to prevaile for v. 10. Paul remaining there by the space of two yeares all that dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord both Jewes and Greeks I aske how it could stand with Pauls universall commission to preach to Iew and Gentiles 1 Cor. 9. 20. 21. as an Apostle to ●em●ine neere three years at Ephesus for one single congregation and the erecting of one Congregationall presbytery 3. We see how zealously mad they have been on their Religion when they had such a curious Temple for Diana And 4. Demetrius and the crafts had their living by making silver shrines to Diana And 5. What power of the Gospell it behoved to be which made their learned men who used curious arts to submit to the Gospell and bring their Books and burne them before all men and the sums of these Books extended to a great
plant soules who were non-converts and branches of the wild olive in Christ Jesus and to make new visible Churches but it is certaine that the Apostles as Apostles and as Pastors by vertue of their office converted obstinate sinners to the faith of Christ and planted them in a visible Church consisting of professors of the faith partly converted partly not converted but the pastors by your doctrine have no power as Pastors or by any Pastorall authoritie to plant the Gospell where it hath never beene that pastorall spirit is dead with the Apostles and in this contrary to all reason and sense and contrary to the Scriptures you make private Christians the successors of the Apostles to plant Churches and to convert soules and to make them fit materialls for the visible Church of regenerate persons for Pastors as Pastors and visible Churches as visible Churches doe nothing at all to the multiplying of Churches seeing Pastors and visible Churches as they are such by your doctrine are but nurses to give suck to those who are already converted but not fathers to convert them for private Christians or pastors as Christians gifted to prophesie not as Pastors doe multiply Churches and convert men to Christ as you teach now wee all know that nurses as nurses doe not propagate or by generation multiply people in the Common-wealth that fathers and mothers onely can doe your Churches have no ministeriall breasts but to give suck to babes who are already borne but wee see by your doctrine no ministeriall power of Pastors or Churches to send forth members to enter in a Church covenant or to enter in a new Church relation of a daughter or a sister visible Church if they send a number to bee a new Church your Pastors or visible Church did not multiply them it is presumed they were converts before they were members of the visible Church which now sendeth them out and if they bee multiplied in the bosome of your visible Church and converted they were not truely members of that visible Church before their conversion and also that they were not converted by any publike ministery but by private Christians gifted to prophesie who are the onely successors of the Apostles to plant visible Churches but what pastorall authoritie have you to send them forth to bee a new visible Church none at all they have as beleevers power to remove from you and because of multiplication to make themselves a new Church and this ministeriall power of making themselves a new Church they have not from you but from their fathers who converted them so that you make a visible Church within a visible Church but not a Church begotten or borne of a visible Church as a child of the mother and wee desire a word of God either precept promise or practise of such a Church multiplication mans word is not enough 2. Wee hold that the sending of the Apostles to all the world was not in it selfe that which essentially distinguisheth the Apostle from the now ordinary Pastor who is fixed to a single Congregation but the gift of tongues to preach to all the world upon the Lords intention to send the Gospel to all nations that as many as were chosen to life might beleeve was that which essentially differenceth the Apostle from the ordinary pastor together with a speciall revelation of God to goe to such and such people to Macedonia and not yet to Bythinia And now seeing these two are taken away the ordinary Pastors which now are have as Pastors a sufficient calling to preach the Gospel to all nations to whom by Gods providence they shall come and can understand their language whether of their owne Congregation or not Neither is a Pastor tied as a Pastor by Gods Word to one onely Congregation for then it should bee unlawfull for a Pastor as a Pastor to plant a new Church but shall it bee lawfull for private Christians to plant new Churches who are not the Apostles successors and yet it shall bee unlawfull for Pastors who are the undoubted successors of the Apostles to plant new Churches I would think that admirable doctrine for so you give to private Christians that which you make essentiall to the Apostles and you deny it to the undoubted successors of the Apostles to wit to Pastors But we hold a lawfull Pastor is a Pastor in relation to all the world with this distinction hee is by Christs appointment and the Churches a Pastor to all congregations to plant and water and preach but by speciall designation of Gods providence and the Churches appointment designed and set apart for such a determinate flock just as the Apostles in generall were made Pastors to all the world Matth. 28 19. Go teach all nations but by speciall revelation and Apostolick appointment Peter was appointed the Apostle of the Jewes Paul of the Gentiles Gal. 2. 9. yet Paul was a Pastor in relation to the Jewes and Peter also in relation to the Gentiles so by speciall revelation Act. 16. they are forbidden to preach the word in Bythinia and commanded to preach it elsewhere and for this cause pious antiquity as Morton observeth called some learned fathers Pastors of the World Athanasius is saluted Pontifex maximus as Russinus saith and Origen magister ecclesi●rum master of the Churches so Hieronymus and Cyprian totius orbis praeses Cyp●ian the Bishop of all the world yea and Pope so Nazianz. Hilarius is called by Augustine insignis ecclesiae doctor a renowned teacher of the Church and Nazianzenus calleth Basilius the light of the word and Damascenus the light of the whole world and Theodoret saith Chrysostome is called totius orbis terrarum doctor the Doctor and teacher of the whole world all which titles saith evidently that antiquitie beleeved never a Pastor or Bishop not to bee a Pastor onely in relation to the one single Congregation whereof hee is Pastor but a Pastor in relation to the whole visible Church though by designation of the Church his ministery bee appropriated to one particular Church Thus it is cleare that our brethren deny all communion of Churches while they confine a visible Church to one onely single and independent Congregation subjected in its visible government to Christ Jesus immediatly and to no universall visible Church or Synod on earth Quest. II. Whether the Magistrate hath power to compell persons to a Church profession Anent Magistrates sundry things are questioned to make presbyteriall government odious And first our brethren complaine that our Churches are constitute by the authoritie of the Magistrate Robinson saith it was a presumptuous enterprise that people were haled against their will into covenant with God to sweare obedience to the protestant Faith being a profane multitude living before in grosse idolatry and that by the authority of the supreme magistrate for the commandement of the magistrate say they can make no members of the visible Church or of
Ministeriall Church actions can be performed by it 4. Dist. It is one thing for a company to performe the actions of a Church mysticall and redeemed of Christ and another thing to performe actions ministeriall of a Church instituted and ministeriall 1. Concl. A company of believers professing the truth is the matter of the Church though they be saints by calling and builded on the rock yet are they but to the Church instituted as stones to the house 2. Because they cannot performe the actions of a constituted Church till they be a constituted Church 3. Our Divines call men externally called the matter of the visible Church so Trelcatius Tilenu● professors of Leyden Piscator Bucanus so say our brethern 2. Concil Ordination of Pastors and election of Officers administration of the seales of grace and acts of Church censures are holden by Gods Word and by all our Divines actions of a ministeriall and an instituted visible Church and if so according to our third distinction It is a wonder how a company of Believers united in Church-Covenant cannot performe all these for they are united and so a perfect Church and yet cannot administrate the Sacraments for though they be so united they may want Pastors who onely can performe these actions as this Treatise sayth and Robinson and the Confession And it is no lesse wonder that Officers and Rulers who are to feed and governe the Flock are but only accidents and not parts not integrall members of a constituted Church no perfect Corporation maketh its owne integrall parts or members a perfect living man doth not make his owne Hands Feete or Eyes the man is not a perfect one in all his members if all the members be not made with him but Officers by preaching make Church-members 3. Concl. The visible Church which Christ instituted in the Gospel is not formally a company of believers meeting for publick edification by common and joynt consent as this Author sayth 1. The instituted Church of the New Testament is an organicall body of diverse members of eyes eares feete hands of Elders governing and a people governed 1 Cor. 12. 14 15. Rom. 12. 4 5 6. Act. 20. 28. But a company of believers meeting for publick edification by common consent are not formally such a body for they are a body not Organicall but all of one and the same nature all believers and saints by calling and are not a body of Officers governing and people governed for they are as they are a visible Church a single uncompounded body wanting Officers and are as yet to choose their Officers and all thus combined are not Officers Rom. 10. 14. How shall they preach except they be sent 1 Cor. 12. 29. Are all Apostles are all Prophets we justly censure the Papists and amongst them Bellarmine who will scarce admit an essentiall Church of believers but acknowledgeth other three Churches beside to wit a representative Church of their Clergy onely excluding the Laickes as they call them 2 A consistoriall Church of Cardinalls 3. A virtuall Church the Pope who hath plenitude of all power in himselfe against which our writers Calvin Beza Tilenus Iunius Bucanus professors of Leyden Whittaker willet doe dispute so the other extremity can hardly be maintained that there is an instituted visible ministeriall Church to which Christ hath given the keyes of the Kingdome of Heaven exercising Church actions as to ordaine and make and un-make Officers and Rulers without any officer at all The major of our proposition is grantted by our brethren who cite 1 Cor. 12. Rom. 12. Acts 20. 28. To prove a single Congregation to be the onely visible Church instituted in the New Testament Nothing can be said against this but a Church of Governours and People governed is an instituted visible Church but there is an instituted visible Church before there be Governours but such an instituted Church we cannot read of in Gods Word which doth and may exercise Church acts of government without any Officers at all 2. That company cannot be the Church ministeriall instituted by Christ in the New Testament which cannot meete all of them every Lords day as the Church of Corinth did for administration of the holy Ordinances of God and all his Ordinances to publick edification for so this Author describeth a visible instituted Church 1 Cor. 14. 23. But a company of believers meeting for publick edification by joynt and common consent cannot meete for the publick administration of all the Ordinances of God 1. They cannot administer the seales of the Covenant being destitute of the Officers as the Scripture and their confession saith 2. They cannot have the power of publick edification being destitute of Pastors because the end cannot be attained without the meanes appointed of Christ. But Christ for publick edification and Church edification hath given Pastors Teacher● and other Officers to his Church Eph. 4. 11. 1 Tim. 5. 17. I● is not enough to say that such a company meeting hath power of Pastorall preaching and administration of the Seales of grace because they may ordaine and elect Officers for such publick edification but 1. we prove that that which our brethren call the onely instituted visible Church of the New Testament hath not power to administrate all the Ordinances of Christ and how then are they a Church can we call him a perfect living man who cannot exercise all the vitall actions which flow from the nature and essence of a living man 2. If this be a good reason that such a company should be the only instituted Church in the New Testament having power of all the Ordinances because they may appoint Officers who have such a power then any ten believers who have never sworne the Church-Covenant meeting in private to exhort one another is also the only instituted Church ministeriall in the New Testament for they have power to make such Officers and may invest themselves in right to all the Ordinances of Christ by our brothers Doctrine 3. All the places cited by the Author speake of a Church visible made up of Officers governing and people governed as Mat. 16. Mat 18. cannot exclude Pastors who binde on Earth and in heaven or Pastors who are stewards and beare the keyes as hereafter I shall prove Also the Church of Corinth did meete for the administration of the Lords Supper 1 Cor. 11. 20. and so were a Church of Officers and governed people they met with Pauls spirit and the authority of Pastors 1 Cor. 5. 4. another Church that exercised Discipline as Collosse Col. 2. 8. was a Church of Officers and people Col. 4. 17. Philippi consisted of Saints Bishops and Deacons Phil. 1. 1. 2. Ephesus of a flocke and an eldership Acts 20. 28. so the visible ministeriall Church that the word of God speaketh of as all the seven Churches of Asia and their Angels had in them Officers to governe and people governed and therefore they were not
together or private by one person severally who is out of office and yet the power of the Gospell is still one and the same notwithstanding the divers manner of using it Answ. 1. If one alone have the keyes spoken of Matth. 16. there be keyes Ministeriall made by Christ before the house be builded and have walls roofe or doore the keyes all take to be metaphoricall and to presuppose a company a constituted Church where some are put in some put out these private keyes of women to open and shut heaven upon men and so to usurpe authoritie over the man are no Church-keyes and if they be not Church-keyes they are not for our dispute Robinson If the keyes of the Kingdome of Heaven be appropriated to the officers then can there be no forgivenesse of sinnes without the officers and there is no entrance into heaven but by the doore there is no climbing over any other way and without the key the doore cannot be opened Then if there be no officers in the Church or if they take away the key of knowledge then must the multitude perish eternally Answ. Though the keyes be appropriated to officers it followeth not There is no forgivenesse of sinnes nor opening of Heaven at all without officers but onely no Ecclesiasticall forgivenesse no Church-opening by a Ministeriall power but through Ministeriall keyes and opening cannot ordinarily be without officer● Faith commeth by hearing Ergo no faith by reading Baptisme saveth Ergo no salvation without Baptisme so doe Anabaptists reason as saith Gerardus so reasoneth Socinus averring It is a worke of charity necessary to salvation therefore all may preach and the same doth both the Raccovian● Catechisme and Ostorodius say yea and Theoph. Nicolaides defending Muncerus the Anabaptist Though keyes bee a publike ordinary meane in a constituted Church it followeth not therefore there is no other way of opening Heaven In the Sacraments remission of sinnes is sealed and heaven opened it follows not therefore all may administer the Sacraments 2. What inference is here if the keyes bee appropriated to officers then people must perish when officers faile certainly so saith the Lords Spirit Proved Where there is no vision the people perish and this is a fearfull soul judgement when God removeth the candlestick and there is no prophet to shew how long and the people are plagued with a famine of the word of God yet there be other meanes then publike ministery He addeth They which may forgive sinne and sinners save soules gaine and turne men to the Lord to them are the keys of the Kingdome of Heaven given by which they open the doore to such as they thus forgive gaine and save But all th●se such as are no Ministers may doe as Matth. 18. 15. 2 Corinth 2. 5 7 8 9 10. Acts 8. 14. Answ. The proposition is false for all who open the doore by exhorting and gaining soules as Christians in no Church-state may in some cases doe have not the Church-keyes for this were to make Church keyes without any Church and to make keyes without house doore or lock for the keyes are metaphorically so called with necessary relation to the Church the house of God and to the stewards of the house the places alleadged are the controversie it selfe and to others of them I shall answer hereafter Robinson The twelve Apostles were not called to the office of Apostles Matth. 16. Ergo they doe not as Apostles receive the keyes Answ. I trust to prove the contrary hereafter 2. If the Apostles Matth. 16. received not the keyes by no warrant are the keyes given to Pastors at all Robinson Every servant in the house no lesse then Officers have authority for the word carrieth authority with it whither soever it goeth Matth. 25. 14. and all have received some good thing or gift for the good of the Church and all should watch but especially the porter Answ. What can be hence collected Ergo the keyes are given to all and all are porters and all should watch as porters for the word of exhorting given to all is of like authority when a woman or boy speaketh it as when a Prophet speaketh it But it is not good to helpe Arminius and Jesuits who reason for universall grace given to all and every one from these Parables Mr. Pemble and opposers of Jesuits in the doctrine of grace expound this of Pastors 2. But let the Parable speake of all all have authority because all have the word all who privately exhort have the word have authority objective and of divine obligation as Christians it is true Ergo all have the keyes it followeth not but all who privately and occasionally exhort have not authority officiall by the calling of God and his Church and therefore they have not this they have not the keyes and the word by publike preaching none have but usurpers save onely called Officers and because they steale the Word they steale the Keyes also and because the Sacraments have authority from God it followeth not therefore that Baptisme administrated by women is of authority Robinson acknowledgeth that Elders and Bishops were ordained to suppresse false doctrine and lay hands suddenly on no man but it followeth not saith he that they are to doe this there alone Answ. There alone they must lay on hands that is with the Presbytery and in a judiciall way excluding all the people for people never in the new Testament laid on hands upon any to ordaine them Elders nor did they it in the old Testament Robinson The officers Ephes 4. 11. are chosen of Christ to watch so Mark 13. the porter should watch Ergo the rest of the servants should not watch it followeth not Officers are to knit together the Saints and so are all who are spirituall Gal. 6. 1. The Officers are to edifie so are all to edifie one another 1 Thess. 5. 11. Answ. The argument must be thus These who are to watch to knit together the Saints to edifie them have received the keys and are Governours and are Officers but all the faithfull are to watch to knit together the Saints Ergo first the major is false for if because the Saints may edifie they shall have joynt power and use of the keys with the Officers they may administrate the Sacraments Now because they may in a Christian way doe some acts of edifying it followeth not that therefore they may doe these acts by power of the keyes and with an Ecclesiasticall and Church-power they may doe the same duty Ergo with the same power A scholler may teach his school-fellow the same lesson that his Master doth teach him Ergo he may doe it by the same Magisteriall authority A wife may cure a disease Ergo shee may by the same authority that a Doctor of Physicke approved by the incorporation of Physicians cure a disease it followeth not Beleeve me so still doth Socinus
execute it for Doeg the Edomite sinned in killing the Lords Priests at the command of Saul and the footmen of Saul did religiously refuse that service 1 Sam. 22. 17. The Souldiers who crucified Christ not only as men but as Licto●s sinned against a principle of the Gospel which they were obliged to believe Maries sonne is the true Messiah nor are we to joyne with a Church excommunicating a man because he confessed Christ Iob. 9. nor need we consent to these that the Senate of Venice is excommunicated by Paul the fift An. 1607. and Henricus Borbonius King of Navarre by Sixtus 5. and Elizabeth of England by Pius 5. and Henry the 4. by Gregory 7. or Hilderland and Martin Luther by Leo the 10. An. 1520. the Pope is not the Catholick Church as many learned Papists especially the Parisian Theologues teach 3. Concl There is not required the like certainty of conscience practicall in a question of fact that is required in a question of Law 1. Because in a question of Law all ignorance is morall and culpably evill to any who undertaketh actions upon conscience of obedience to others for to all within the visible Church the word of God is exactly perfect for faith and manners and every on is obliged to know all conclusions of Law that are determinable by Gods word 2. Every one in his actions is to do● out of a plerophorie and a full perswasion of heart that what he doth pleaseth God Rom. 14. 14. I know and am perswaded by the Lord Jesus that nothing is uncleane of it selfe 3. We are to doe nothing but what is lawfull and what in our consciences we are perswaded is lawfull and are to know what is sinne and what is no sin All Souldiers in war and Lictors and these who execute the sentence of excommunication are to know what are the just causes of war and what crimes by Gods Law deserve death and what not as what homicide sorcery parricide incest and the like sinnes deserve by Gods Law and what not because every one is obliged to know morally what concerneth his conscience that he be not guilty before God the executioner who beheaded Iohn Baptist sinned because he was obliged to know this a prophet who rebuketh incest in a King ought not to be put to death therefore It was unlawfull for the men of Iudah to come and make war with Ieroboam and the ten Tribes because God forbade that war 1 Ki. 12. 23 24. 4. Concl. It is not enough that some say if the question be negatively just then Souldiers and executioners and people may execute the sentence that is if they see no unlawfulnesse in the fact I meane unlaw fulnesse in materiâ juris in a matter of Law hence some say subjects and common Souldiers not admitted to the secrets of the councell of war may fight lawfully when there is this negative justice in the war but forraine Souldiers who are conduced may not doe so for the Law sayth he is not free of a fault who intermedleth with matters which belonge not to him to the hurt of others so Teacheth Suarez D. Bannes Andr. Duvallius yet the command of the Prince can remove no doubt of conscience also that the cause of the war in the matter of Law so far as it is agreeable to Gods word is not manifest to executioners is there culpable ignorance no lesse then the ignorance of a sentence manifestly unjust Ergo the practise of these who execute a sentence negatively only just is not lawfull I prove the antecedent beacuse the practicall ignorance of what we doe which is not warranted by Gods Word is alwayes culpable whether the cause be cleare or darke for no obscurity of Gods Law doth excuse our ignorant practise when the Word of God can sufficienty resolve us 2. It is not enough that our morall actions in their lawfulnes be just negatively because actions morall which are beside the Word of God praeter dei verbum to us who hold Gods Word perfect in faith and manners are also contra dei verbum against the Word of God and so unlawfull 3. Because actions morall having no warrant but the sole will and Commandement of superiors are undertaken upon the sole faith that what superiors command if it seeme not to us unjust though it be in it selfe unjust may lawfully be done Now we condemne this in Schoolemen and Popish casuistes that the Commandement of superiors as sayth Gregor de Valent. Bannes Suarez Silvester Navarre may take away and remove all doubting of conscience and make the action lawfull Whereas Navarre Corduba Sylvester Adrian hold that an action done without a due practicall certainty is unlawfull If he shoud diligently sayth Suarez search for the truth and cannot find it yet the doubter may practise so he practically perswade himselse he doth it out of a good mind and whereas the Jesuite sayth that it is his negligence in not seeking the truth he answereth his negligence which is by past cannot have influence in his present action to make it unlawfull because it is past and gone But I answer it is Physically past but it is morally present to infect the action as habituall ignorance maketh the acts of unbeliefe morally worse or ill And to these we may adde that he who doth with such a doubt 1. He sinneth because he doth not in faith 2. He exposeth himselfe to the hazard of finning and of joyning with an unjust sentence 3. It is the corrupt Doctrine of Papists who muzzle up the people in ignorance and discharge them to reade Gods Word and so maintaine because of the obscurity and imperfection of Gods Word which is not able to determine all questions that there is an ignorance of many lawfull duties which is invincible and to be excused as no wayes sinfull and which vitiateth not our morall actions so Thomas Bonaventura Richard Gabriel Occam Antoninus Adrianus Almaine Suarez though Occam and Almain may be expounded favourably 5. Concl. Souldiers Lictors Servants People under the Eldership are not meere instruments moved only by superiors as Schoolemen say 1. Because they are morall agents and are no lesse to obey in Faith then superiors are to command in Faith and they are to obey their Superiours only in the Lord. 2. They are to give all diligence that they be not accessary to unjust sentences lest they partake of other mens sinnes What Aquinas Greg. de Valent and And. Duvallius saith against this is not to be stood upon 6. Concl. But in questione facti in matters of fact there is not required that certainty of conscience But that we may more clearely understand the conclusion a question of fact is taken three wayes 1. For a fact expressely set down in Gods Word as that Moses led the people through the wildernesse that Cain slew his brother Ab●l these are questions
de facto not questiones facti and must be believed as Almaine and Occam say well with that same certainty by which we believe Gods Word 2. A question of fact is taken for a question the subject whereof is a matter of fact but the attribute is a matter of Law as if Christ in saying he was the Son of God did blasphem if the Lords Priests in giving David shew-bread did commit Treason against King Saul there is some question there made circa factum about the fact but it is formally a question of Law For these questions may be cleared by Gods Word and the ignorance of any questions which may be cleared by Gods Word is vincible and culpable for the Law sayth The ignorance of these things which we are obliged to know is culpable and excuseth not But thirdly a question of fact is properly a question whether this Corinthian committed incest or no whether Tittrs committed murther or no and in this there is sometimes invincible ignorance when all diligence morally possible is given to come to the knowledge of the fact Now we know here the question of Law must be proved by the Law all are obliged in concience to know what sinnes deserve death and Excommunication But whether this man Iohn Anna Marie hath committed such sins is a question of fact and cannot be proved by the Law or the Word of God for the L●● is not anent singulars or particulars this is proved by sense and the Testimonie of witnesses and therefore the certainty practicall of conscience here is humane and failible not Divine and infallible Now though Souldiers Lictors or People joyne to the execution of a sentence and have their doubtings anent the fidelity of the witnesses yet when all diligence morally possible is given to try the matter they may well be said to doe in Faith though they have not certainty of Faith concerning the fact because there cannot be certainty of Divine Faith in facts mens confession sense the Testimony of witnesses cannot breed Divine Faith yea here the Judge himselfe may condemne the innocent and yet the sentence of the Judge may be most just because the witnesses are Lyers and the Judge giveth out that sentence in Faith because Gods Word hath commanded him to proceed secundum allegata probata he must give sentence under two or three witnesses yea though the Judge saw with his Eyes the guilty commit the fact yet he cannot by Gods Law condemne him but upon the testimony of witnesses For the wise Lord seeth what confusion and tyranny should follow if one might be both Index actor t●stis the Iudge the accuser and the witnesse And when the Judge giveth out a sentence to absolve the guilty and condemne the innocent his sentence is judicially and formally just and materially and by accident and contrary to his intention only unjust if the Judge in that case should say as Master Weemes observeth well such a proposition is true when he knoweth it to be false and being posed and urged in conscience is this an innocent man or no it he should answer and say he is not he should then answer contrary to his knowledge but as a Judge he must answer he is not innocent because witnesses being with all possible diligence examined have condemned him and it is no inconvenience here to say that the Judge hath one conscience as a man and another contrary conscience as a Judge in the question of fact for God hath tyed his conscience as a Judge to the fidelity of witnesses known not to be false I desire the Reader to see anent this more in Bonaventura Richardus Occam Antoninus Adrian and our Countreyman Iohn Weemes and Henricus Now because Souldiers Lictors and people are not Judges if they know the fact in Law deserveth such and such punishments where the sentence is not manifestly false and unjust but in the matter of Law just though erroneous in the matter of fact all possible dilligence being used by the Judges they are to execute that sentence upon the testimony of the Judges though they be not personally present at the proceedings of the Judges and Eldership which may be proved many wayes 1. By the confession of our brethren i● any of the Congregation be absent by Sicknesse Child-birth paine Trading over Sea imprisonment the Congregation doth justly put away from amongst them the incestuous Corinthian and they who are absent are to repute the party Excommunicate as a Heathen as their own practise is at censures in the week-day the largest halfe of the Congregation is absent yet the absent upon the testimony of the Church hold valid what is done by the Church 2. Other sister Churches who ought not to be present at Church-censures as our Brethren teach are to repute the Excommunicate cast out by a sister Church-independent as they say as an Heathen because being bound in Heaven here is he not bound in a Church visible one mile distant from the Church Excommunicating yet this is no tyranny of conscience 3. Women are to execute the sentence and to eschew the company of the party Excommunicated yet are they not to be present ●s Judges to n●●rp authority over the men This Robinson granteth 4. This should evert all judicatories of peace and war so many thousands Acts 2. could not be present at every act of censure and that dayly nor are acts o● Discipline necessarily tied to the Lords-day They are I grant acts of Divine worship but the whole multitude of women and children are deprived of the liberty that God hath given them for six dayes to the works of their calling if they must be personally present at all the acts of Discipline to cognosce of all scandals and to here and receive Testimonies against Elders under two or three witnesses which is the office of Timothy this way the overseeing of the manners of the people which also our Brethren laye upon the whole people taketh up the great part of the Pastors office and the whole office of ruling Elders And if we lay upon the people the worke and all the acts of the office how can we not lay upon them the office it selfe 5. All Israel gathered to war from Dan to Beersheba could not by vertue of duty and obligation be present personally at the determination of lawfull War Nay if they were all present as Judges as Mr. Ainsworth would have them there be no Governors and Feeders in Israel but all the governed are Feeders and so no Magistrate and Ruler as Anabaptists teach here 1. It were not lawfull for one to be King over more people then he could in his own personall presence judge contrary to Gods Word that teacheth us to obey these who are sent by the supreme Magistrate as we obey the King 1 Pet. 2. 13. 14. Ergo these who are sent by him are lawfull Judges and yet
are without here because they are to be rebuked yea nor was the excommunicated man after he should be cast out left to the immediate judgement of God but he was 1. To remaine under the medicine of excommunication and dayly to be judged and eschewed as a Heathen that his spirit may be saved 2. He was to be rebuked as a brother 2 T●ess 3. 15. 3. Paul saying what have I to doe to judge these that are without God judgeth them he meaneth as much as he will not acknowledge them as any wayes belonging to Christ but the believers of approved piety because they are not members of a fixed congregation are not thus cast off of Paul he became all things to all men that he might gaine some and would never cast off Believers and say what have I to doe with you In a word by those who are without are meant Gentiles as Ambrose Oecumenius Theophilact c. Calvin Martyr Bullinger Paraeus Beza Pelican Pomeranus Meyer Sarcerius Marloratus Paraphras the Papists Haymo Aquinas and with them Erasmus and all who ever commented on this place Lastly our Brethren expound these who are within to be the Church of Corinth Saints by calling and Saints in Christ Jesus these to whom he prayeth grace and peace unto and for whom he thanketh God for the grace given to them by Iesus Christ 1 Cor. 1. 2. 3. Now these thus within must be regenerated and opposed to all not within this way but without that is who are not Saints by calling not in Christ Iesus then by these who are without cannot be understood all not fixed members of one visible Congregation who yet are by true faith in Christ Iesus and our Brethren must mean that Paul if he were living would take no care to judge and censure us who believe in Christ and are members of provinciall and nationall Churches and are not members of such an independent Congregation as they conceive to be the only instituted visible Church of the New Testament But if they all not without the state of salvation who are not members of such an independent flock 1. All the Churches of Corinth Galatia Ephesus Th●ssalonica Philippi Rome the seven Churches of Asia who were not such independent Churches must be in the state of damnation 2. All are here obliged who looke for salvation by Iesus Christ to joyne themselves to this visible independent Church then all who are not members of such a Church are in the state of damnation if say our brethren they know this to be the only true Church and joyne not to it O but ignorance cannot save men from damnation for all are obliged to know this so necessary a meane of salvation where only are the meane● of salvation for then it should excuse Scribes and Pharisees that they believed not in Christ for they knew him not and if they had knowen they would not have crucisied the Lord of glory 1 Cor. 2. 9 10. Now we judge this to be the revived error of-the Donatists whose mind was as Augustine saith that the Church of Christ was only in that part of Africa where Donatus was and Augustine writing to Vincentius objecteth the same as Morton answereth Bellarmine and the same say Papists with Donatists that out of the Church of Rome there is no salvation And Field answereth well yee are to be charged with donatisme who deny all Christian societies in the World ●to be where the Popes feete are not kissed to pertaine to the true Church of God and so cast into Hell all the Churches of Aethiopia Armenia Syri● Graecia Russia and so did Optatus sayth Morton Answer Donatists you will have the Church only to be where you art but in Dacia Misi● Thracia Achaia c. where you are not you will not have it to be nor will you have it to be in Graecia Cappadocia Aegypt c. Where you are not and in innumerable Istes and Provinces See how Gerardus refuteth this and certainly if this be the only true visible Christian Church to which all who looke for salvation by Christ Jesus must joyne themselves there is not in the Christian World a true visible Church but with you 3. I● all upon hazard of losing salvation must joyne to such a Church having power of jurisdiction independently within it selfe then must all separate from all the reformed Churches where there be provinciall and nationall Churches now this is also the error of the Donatists and Anabaptists against which read what learned Parker saith and reverend Brightman and Cartwright but of this hereafter 4. The principall reason given by the Author is The Lord added to the Church Acts 2. such as should be saved this is not in the independent visible Congregation as is proved elsewhere A second reason he giveth because every Christian standeth in neede of the Ordinances of Christ for his spirituall edification in holy fellowship with Christ Iesus or else Christ ordained them in vaine therefore all who would be saved must joyne to a visible independent congregation hence no Church hath title and due right to the Word and Sacraments but members of such a congregation this is the reason why men of approved piety are denied the Seales of the covenant and their children excluded from Baptisme and themselves debarred from the Lords Supper because they are not members of your congregation and members they cannot be because they finde no warrant from Gods Word to sweare your Church-covenant and to your Church-government which is so farre against the Word of God the Seales of the covenant belong to all professing Believers as Gods Word sayth Acts 10. 47. Acts 8. 37. Acts 16. 31 32 33. 1 Cor. 11. 28. Whether he be a member of a particular independent Church or not God the Lawgiver maketh not this exception neither should man doe it Propos. 3. All are entered by covenant into a Church-state or into a membership of a visible Church Answ. Here are we to encounter with a matter much pressed by our reverend Brethren called a Church covenant A Treatise came unto my hand in a Manuscript of this Subject In their Apology and in their answer to the questions propounded by the Brethren of Old England this is much pressed I will first explaine the Church-covenant according to our reverend Brethrens minde 2 Prove there is no such thing in Gods Word 3. Answer their Arguments taken out of the Old Testament 4. Answer their Arguments from the New Testament both in this Treatise here in this Chapter and hereafter and also their arguments in all their Treatises Hence for the first two I begin with this first question Whether or not all are to he In-churched or entered Members of a visible Church by an explicit and vocall or prof●ssed Covenant Our brethrens mind is first to be cleared 2.
The state of the question to be explained 3. The truth to be confirmed In the answers to the questions sent to New England they require of all persons come to age before they be received members of the Church 1. A publiqu● vocall declaration of the manner and soundnesse of their conversion and that either in continued speech saith the Apologie or in answer to questions propounded by the Elders 2. They require a publick prof●ssion of their faith concerning the articles of their religion the foresaid way also 3. An expresse vocall covenanting by oath to walke in that faith and to submit saith the Authour themselves to God and one to another in his feare and to walke in a professed subjection to all his holy Ordinances cleaving one to another as fellow members of the same body in brotherly love and holy watchfulnesse unto mutuall edification in Christ Iesus 4. And a covenanting not to depart from the said Church without the consent thereof This Church-covenant saith the Apologie is the essentiall or formall cause of a visible Church as a flocke of Saints is the materiall cause and so necessarily of the being of a Church that without it none can claim Church-communion and therefore it is that whereby a Church is constituted in its integrity that whereby a fallen Church is againe restored and that which being taken away the Church is dissolved and ceaseth to be a Church and it is that whereby Ministers have power over the people and people interest in their Ministers and one member hath interest and powerover another fellow-member The manner of entring in Church-state is this 1. A number of Christians with a gifted or experienced Elder meet often together saith this Authour about the things of God and performe some duties of prayer and spirituall conference together till a sufficient company of them be well satisfied in the spirituall good estate one of another and so have approved themselves to one anothers consciences in the sight of God as living stones fit to be said on the Lords spirituall Temple 2. They having acquainted the Christian Magistrate and neerest adjoyning Churches of their purpose of entring into Church-fellowship convene in a day kept with fasting and praying and preaching one b●ing chosen with common consent of the whole in name of the rest standeth up and propoundeth the covenant in the foresaid four Articles above named 3. All the rest declare their joynt consent in this covenant either by silence or word of mouth or writing 4. The brethren of other Churches some specials in name of the rest reach out to them the right hand of fellowship exhorting them to stand stedfast in the Lord. Which done prayers made to God for pardon and acceptance of the people a Psalm is sung But when a Church is to be gathered together of Infidels they must be first converted believers and so fit materials for Church fellowship before any of those things can be done by them 5. Baptisme maketh none members of the visible Church 6. A Church fallen cannot be accepted of God to Church fellowship till they renew their Church covenant Thus shortly for their mind about the gathering of a visible Church Let these distinctions be considered for the right stating of the question 1. Distinct. There is a covenant of free grace betwixt God and sinners founded upon the surety Christ Iesus laid hold on by us when we believe in Christ but a Church Covenant differenced from this is in question sub judice lis est 2. Distinct. There is a covenant of baptisme made by all and a covenant vertuall and implicite renewed when we are to receive the Lords Supper but an explicite positive professed Church covenant by oa●h in-churching a person or a society to a State-church is now questioned 3. Distinct. An explicite vocall Covenant whereby we bind our selves to the first three Articles in a tacite way by entring in a new relation to such a Pastor and to such a Flocke we deny not as if the thing were unlawfull for we may sweare to performe Gods commandements observing all things requisite in a lawfull oath 2. But that such a covenant is required by divine institution as the essentiall forme of a Church and Church-membership as though without this none were entered members of the visible Churches of the Apostles nor can now be entered in Church-state nor can have right unto the seales of the covenant we utterly deny 4. Distinct. We grant a covenant in Baptisme which is the seale of our entry unto the visible Church 2. That it is requisit that such Heretickes Papists Infidels as be received as members of our visible Church from which Papists have fallen having received baptisme from us doe openly professe subjection to God and his Church in all the Ordinances of God And that Infidels give a confession of their faith before they be baptized 3. Nor deny we that at the election of a Pastor the Pastor and people tie themselves by reciprocation of oathes to each other the one to fulfill faithfully the ministery that he hath received of the Lord the other to submit to his ministery in the Lord but these reciprocall oathes make neither of them members of a visible Church for they were that before these oathes were taken 5. Distinct. Any professor removing from one congregation to another and so comming under a new relation to such a Church or such a Ministery is in a tacite and vertuall covenant to discharge himselfe in all the duties of a member of that Congregation but this is nothing for a Church-covenant for when six are converted in the congregation whereof I am a member or an excommunicated person heartily and unfainely repenteth there ariseth a new relation betwixt those converts and the Church of God and a tie and obligation of duties to those persons greater then was before as being now members of one mysticall and invisible body Yet cur brethren cannot say there is requisite that the Church renew their Church-covenant towards such seeing the use of the Covenant renewed is to restore a fallen Church or to make a non-Church to be a Church and if those six be converted by my knowledge there resulteth thence an obligation of a vertuall and tacite covenant betwixt them and me but there is no need of an explicite and vocall covenant to tie us to duties that we are now obliged to in a stricter manner then we were before for when one is taken to be a steward in a great family there may be a sort of Covenant betwixt that servant and the Lord of the house and there resulteth from his office and charge a tie and obligation not onely to the head of the family but also to the children and fellow-servants of the house but there is no need of an expresse vocall and professed covenant betwixt the new steward and the children and servants yea and strangers also to whom he owes some acts of steward-duties
or the Covenant of grace and so must tie us to other duties then either the Law or Gospell require of us and so is beside that Gospell which Paul taught and maketh the teacher though an Angell from Heaven accursed and not to be received The Apologie answering this saith First We call it a Church-covenant to distinguish it from civill Covenants and also from the Covenant of grace for the Eunuch and godly strangers Isaiah 56. 3. were in the covenant of grace by faith and yet complained that they were separated from the Church and not in Covenant with Gods visible Church Answ. 1. No doubt an excommunicated person whose spirit is saved in the day of Christ may be in the Covenant of grace and yet cut off from the visible Church for enormous scandals but this is no ground to make your Church-covenant different from the Covenant of grace A beleever in the Covenant of grace may not doe a duty to father brother or master but it is a weak consequence that therefore there is a Covenant-oath betwixt brother and brother sonne and father servant and master which is commanded by a divine Law of perpetuall equity under both old and new Testament as you make this Covenant of the Church to be which persons must sweare ere they can come under these relations of brother son and servant The Covenant of grace and the whole Evangell teach us to confesse Christ before men and to walke before God and be perfect and so that we should joyn our selves to the true visible Churh But none can in right reason conclude that it is a divine Law that necessitateth me to sweare another Covenant then the Covenant of grace in relation to those particular duties or to sweare over againe the Covenant of grace in relation to the duties that I owe to the visible Church else I am not a member thereof And that same Covenant in relation to my father brother and master else I cannot be a sonne brother or servant this were to multiply Covenants according to the multitude of duties that I am obliged unto and that by a divine commandment The word of God layeth a tie on Pastors to feed the flock and the flock to submit in the Lord to the Pastors But God hath not by a new commandment laid a new tie and obligation that Timothy shall not be made a Pastor of a Church at Ephesus and a member thereof nor the Church at Ephesus constituted in a Church-state having right to all the holy things of God while first they be all perswaded of one anothers regeneration secondly while all sware those duties in a Church-oath thirdly and all sweare that they shall not separate from Church followship but by mutuall consent Heare a reply againe to this of the Apologie such promises as leave a man in an absolute estate as he was before and ingage onely his act not his person these lay no forcing band on any man but as every man is tied to keepe his lawfull promise are tied But yet such promises or covenants as are made according to the Ordinances of God and doe put upon men a relative estate they put on them a forcing band to performe such duties such as are the promises of marriage betwixt man and wife master and servant magistrate and subject minister and people brother and brother in Church-state these put on men a divine tie and binde by a divine Ordinance to performe such duties But these Scriptures make not these relations these places make not every man who can teach a Pastor to us except we call him to be our Pastor indeed if we call him we ingage our selves in subjection to him you might as well say It is not the c●venanting of a wife to her husband or the subject to the magistrate that giveth the husband power over his wife and the magistrate power over his subject but the word of God that giveth power to both and yet you know well the husband cannot call such an one his wife but by covenant made in marriage Answ. This is all which with most colour of reason can be said But these places of Scripture are not brought to prove the Pastors calling to the people or their relative case of subjection to him but onely they prove that the covenant of grace and whole Gospell layeth a tie of many duties upon us which obligeth us without comming under the tie of an expresse vocall and publique oath necessitating us by a divine Law because in this that I professe the faith of Christ and am baptized I am a member of the visible Church and have right to all the holy things and seales of grace without such an oath because the covenant of grace tieth me to a●joyne my selfe to some particular congregation and a called Pastor who hath gi●●● and a calling from the Church is a member of the visible Church before he be called to be your Pastor though he be a member of no particular congregation for you lay down as an undeniable principle and the basis of your whole doctrine of independent government that there are no visible Churches in the world but a congregation meeting in one place to worship God which I have demonstrated to be most false for if my hand be visible my whole body is visible though with one act of the eye it cannot be seene if a part of a medow be visible all the medow thought ten miles in bredth and length is visible so though a congregation onely may be actually seene when it is convened within the soure Angles of a materiall house yet all the congregations on earth make one visible Church and have some visible and audible acts of externall government cummon to all as that all pray praise fast mourne rejoyce one with another and are to rebuke exhort comfort one another and to censure one another so farre as is possible and of right and by Law meet in one councell and so by Christs institution are that way visible that a single cong egation is visible which meeteth in one house though many be absent de facto through sickenesse callings imprisonment and some through sinfull neglect and therefore you doe not prove that we are made members of the visible Church having right to all the holy things of God by a Church-oath or covenant as you speake neither doe we deny but when one doth enter a member to such a congregation under the ministery of A. B. but he commeth under a ●ew relative state by an implicite and vertuall covenant to submit to his ministery yea and A. B. commeth under that same relative state of Pastorall feeding of such an one But you doe not say that A. B. entereth by a vocall Church-covenant in a membership of Church order and that by a commanded covenant of perpetuall equity laying a new forcing band upon both the person and the acts of A. B. just as the husband and the wife come under
saw before 9. They sweare to be good stewards of the manifold graces of God and so to publick prophecying for converting soules here be men sworn in a Church-way to feede the flock and yet they are not Pastor● 10. Here are Church-acts and the power of the Keyes exercised in preaching and praying and discipline and yet no stewards nor Officers of the house who have received the keys to feede Quest. 2. Whether it can be proved from the Old Testament that Christs visible Church was gathered and being fallen restored to a visible Church-state by this Church-covenant Our Reverend Bretheren contend that the Church was ever gathered by this Church-covenant The Author saith that the Lord received Abraham and his children into the Church by a covenant Gen. 17. 7. Then when they violated the covenant he renewed this covenant Exod. 19. 1. 5. whence they were called the Church in the VVildernesse Acts 7. 38. Answ. 1. The covenant Gen. 17. 7. is not a Church-covenant such as you dreame off 1. That covenant is the covenant of grace made with all the people of the Jewes yea with children of eight dayes old v. 7. I will establish my covenant betwixt me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant to be a God to thee and to thy seed Your covenant is not made with infants for to you infants are not members of the Church visible none are in your Church-covenant but believers of whose sound conversion you are satisfied in conscience 2. This is the everlasting covenant made with Job Melchisedech and many Believers not in Church-state as you grant your Church-covenant made with a visible Church is no everlasting covenant 3. Infants can make no confession ere they be receied in a visible Church 4. If by this covenant Abrahams house was made a visible Church and all his children circumcised then every family in the New Testament professing the Faith and covenant made with Abraham and baptised as Abrahams children were circumcised are the visible Church and the place is for us 5. Abraham and his house before this when they were first called out of Aegypt were a Church of called ones professing the Faith of the Messiah to come 6. The Lord had a Church visible before the renewing of the covenant at Mount Sinai Exod. 19. even in Aegypt and when he brought them first out of that Land of bondage Jerem. 31. 31 32. 33 and before this they did celebrate the Passover the very night that they came out of Egypt Exod. 12. and therefore it is false that for that covenant renewed Exod. 19. They are called the church in the VVildernesse all the forty yeares that they were in the Wildernesse they were the Church in the VVildernesse The apology and Author of the Church-covenant and Manuscript alledge Deut. 29. 10. Yee stand all of you this day before the Lord c. v. 12. that thou mightest enter in covenant with the Lord thy God and the Oath which the Lord thy God maketh with thee v. 13. That He may establish thee to day a people to Himselfe Hence they argue That which maketh a society a people to God to serue Him in all His Ordinances that is that whereby a society is constituted in a Church-state but by a covenant God maketh a society a people to God to serve Him in all his Ordinances Ergo. Now that those were a true visible Church they prove though the word say they had eyes and see not c. yet they were not in a carnall estate but only dull and slow of hearkening to discerne sundry gracious dispensations which sinfull defects were in the Lords Apostles Mat 8. 17. dull and slow of Heart for this was the Generation which was not excluded out of Canaan for their unbeliefe whose carcasses fell not in the wildernesse and they were now within the space of a moneth or thereabout to enter into the promised Land Deut. 1. 3. and it was they who entred by Faith and subdned Kingdomes and kept their children poore and constant in Gods worship all the dayes of Josuah 24. 31. It is true say they God entered also into a covenant with their Fathers 40 yeares before but not till he had humbled them to a conscionable though a legall feare of His great Name and even some of them also it may be remembred that they were borne under the covenant of grace from the Loynes of Abraham though needfull it was that God should enter with them into a new covenant and lead them from the Law to Christ because they had so long degenerated from the spirit and wayes of Abraham during their abode in Egypt Exod. 20. 7 8. Answ. This place maketh both against the constitution of a visible Church and against the Church-Oath framed by cu● brethren Therefore once for all it must be vindicated and 1. I answer the swearing of a covenant in truth by sound faith putteth person● in state of membership with the invisible and true body of Christ it is true but not in the state of a Church as visible and therefore the Major of the first syllogisme it false it is one thing to be a member of the Church as true and of the people internally in covenant with God or a Iew in the Heart and another thing to be in covenant externally and a member of the visible-Church to be borne a Jew and circumcised and to professe the doctrine of Moses his Law did formally make persons members of the Jewish visible Church though they should never sweare this covenant as many died in Egypt and lived and died members of the Jewish Church and did eate the Passover and were circumcised whose carcasses fell in the Wildernesse because of their murmuring these did never sweare neither this covenant Deut. 29. nor the covenant Exod. 19. 2. Here is a people in carnall estate and cannot be a covenanted and churched society of Saints for v. 3. the Lord objecteth to them habituall hardnesse 3. The great temptations that thine eyes have seene the signes and these great miracles 4. Yet the Lord hath not given you an Heart to perceive and eyes to see and eares to heare 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to this same day this is an habituall blindnesse propagated from fathers to sonnes as Ez● 2. 3. They and their fathers have rebelled against mee 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 even to the body of this day Jerem. 25. 3. and Jeremy 3. 25. we have sinned we and our fathers from our youth to this day Now this is not the state of the Disciples Mar. 8. for Christ is not judging them of their state as if they were yet carnall but of their faithlesse actions in some particular when they wanted bread they distrusted the Lord when I brake the five Loaves amongst many thousands how many baskets took yee up Christ rebuketh them that they were yet hardened notwithstanding some great miracles which might have induced
in the Church assembly this Church-swearing is not rewarded so for how is it proved that a name even an everlasting name better then the names of sonnes and daughters is the name of a fellow-member in some obscure congregation or parish is this better then the name of a borne Jew who was also a member of the visible Church and if he believed in Christ had also the everlasting name of a member of the Jewish Church Surely there is no ground for this in Gods Word the everlasting name must be some spirituall remembrance and some invisible honour beyond the externall honour of being named the sonne or daughter of a Jew and by what warrant also of Gods word is Gods holy mountaine and his house of Prayer v. 7. which in the New Testament can no more be literally expounded then offering of burnt offerings by what warrant is this called a parochiall visible congregation where visible saints meets in one materiall house ordinarily and in one visible Church-way The house of Prayer there is Joh. 2. expounded of the typicall Temple which spiritually did typifie Christs body as he expoundeth it himselfe Ioh. 2. 18 19 20. deare brethren doe no violence to Gods Word 2. There is no ground that the Eunuch and stranger had no other complaint but want of visible membership for his laying hold on the Lords Sabbaths saith the contrary and though he should complain of that it is a small comfort promised th●● he shall be a member of a visible congregation which membership many Iudasses and Hypocrites injoy also 3. Though there were a visible Church-membership here promised as no intepreter that ever yet saw it but your selves yet it should onely follow before heathen who are come to age be Baptized and so inchurched they should externally lay hold on a professed covenant and so that they might be members of the invisible Church before they be members of the visible Church which is much for our Baptisme-covenant and nothing for your Church-covenant 4. Church-membership by your exposition is promised to none but these who inwardly by true faith are joyned to the covenant then all Church-Acts performed by pastors and professors not converted though they proceed clave no● errante following Christ his rule are null and no bapti●ing no binding in heaven for a promise conditionall is no promise say reason and lawyers where the condition is not fulfilled The Author of the Church-covenant citeth that of Ez●k 16. 8. I entred into covenant with thee and thou becamest min● Eze. 20. 37. I will cause you to passe under the rod here is a covenant not of a person but of the whole House of Israel v. 30. 39. This covenant is called a band and Junius observeth well takes from shepheards who went amongst their sheep with a Rod and selected and poynted out such as were for the Lords sacrifice Lev. 26. 31. Ergo under the New Testament men enter not into the Church hand over head but they passe under the Rod of due tryall and then being ●ound meet are inchurched Answ. He entered into covenant with Hierusalem dying in her owne blood v. 6. v. 8. your covenant is made with a people washed and converted 2. All are taken in promiscuously in this covenant externally good and evill who prospered to a kingdome and were renowned amongst the Heathen v. 13. 14. Your Church covenant is of persons who passe under the rod of pro●ation and passe for sound converts The other place is not to a purpose for God is not speaking of gathering his people to a visible Church but as Calvin Polanus Iunius God is meeting with the peoples wicked conclusion who said v. 34. They were banished and cap●ives mixed amongst the Nations and so free from Gods cor●ecting rod or band of Discipline and God saith and I will make you to passe under the Rod 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and I will bring you under the ●and of my covenant The Word is also Psal. 2. 3. and it is true ●hat 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth a staffe and a rod Prov. 10. 13. but it signifieth also a Kings Scepter Gen. 49. 10. but the band of the covenant signifieth no union of a visible Church nor is the Lord in that place promising the mercy of a gathered Church but by the contrary he threatneth an evill as v. 35. And I will bring you unto the wildernesse of the people and there will I plead with you face to face 36. Like as I peaded with your Fathers 37. And I will cause you to passe under the Rod c. To select you out from amongst the Heathen as sheep for sacrificing as the next verse 38. and I will purge out from amongst you the Re●●lls c. This place is violently brought to witnesse unjustly And what though God would have them tryed who were taken under his covenant of protection it should be the covenant of grace and not a Church-covenant for he meaneth no such thing They alleadge Jerem. 50. 4. And in those dayes and at that time the children of Israel shall come they and the children of Judah together saying let us be joyned to the Lord in a perpetuall covenant that shall not be forgotten Answ. 1. Israel and Judah together cannot be a parochiall congregation nor 2. Can Sion be a parish Church nor 3. is the Church-covenant from which a man is loosed when upon good warrants and the consent of the congregation he removeth cut of that Church to another A perpetuall Covenant that shall never be forgotten for eternity is proper to the covenant of grace betwixt God and man Jerem. 31. 33 37 38. Jerem. 32. 40. Isal. 54. 10. Isai. 55. 3. Isai. 59. 21. and there is no covenant betwixt mortall men who shall d●e an eternall covenant The Author saith There is nothing more plaine then Isai. 44. 5. One shall say I am the Lords and another shall call himselfe by the name of Jacob and another shall subscribe with his hand and sirname himselfe by the name of Israel These words are so plaine as nothing can be more plaine Answ. This is a cleare place that under the M●ssiah all people shall professe themselves in covenant with God and the children of God and the Church and Calvin citeth Psal. 87. 5. and of Sion it shall be said This and this man was borne in her but this is not plaine at all that these professe themselves sworne members of a particular Parish yea the contrary is most plaine that they shall call themselves by the name of Jacob and Israel that is children of the whole visible Church for Jacob and Israel is not restricted to one particular congregation Before the peoples captivity saith Musculus The names of B●●l and idoll gods sounded in their mouthes but then they shall professe the true God and that they are his people Now Gods covenant is made principally not with one single congregation not is
the blood that sealeth the covenant shed for one single congregation nor are the promises of the covenant Yea and Amen is Christ for one single flocke onely and primò principaliter but for the whole Catholike Church and therefore they shall name themselves Christians The Author addeth Every Church is Christs married Spouse united to Christ by covenant the violation of marriage is the violation of a covenant yea and there is a marriage betwixt the Church members Isa. 62. 5. as a young man marrieth a Virgin so shall thy sonnes marry thee Answ. A marriage betwixt Christ and his Church we grant and betwixt Christ and every particular soule beleeving in him in respect of the love 2. mutuall interest and claime one to another Cant. 2. 16. and what holdeth betwixt Christ and a Church catholick or particular holdeth also betwixt Christ and every soule and to extort a Church covenant betwixt Christ and a particular soule who may be and often is a beleever yet out of Church-state from the borrowed phrase of marriage is ●oo violent blooding of comparisons and therefore from marriage belonging to the catholike Church principally how can a marriage visible be concluded 2. the sonne● are the whole Church of the Gentiles too large a P●rish incolaeterrae saith Musculus and excellently Calvin Christ so is the husband of his Church that he marrieth upon his Church all people and Nations which are gathered to her because while the Church wanteth children she is as it were a widow now this is nothing for a Church-covenant Thirdly there is a relative obligation of mutuall duties of love betwixt fellow members of a visible Church and betwixt sonnes and the mother congregation but this is first done in Baptisme expresly secondly in our comming to be members of such a congregation but the person is before a member of the visible Church The Author addeth If dissolving a covenant be that which dissolveth a Church as Zach. 11. 9. 10. then the making of a covenant is that which constituteth a Church if dissipating of stones unbuild the house then compacting of them together doth build the house but the breaking of the covenant under the name of breaking of the two staves beauty and bands Z●ch 11. is the inchurching of the Iewes Ergo Answ. The dissolving and breaking of the covenant of grace and the removing of the Candlestick and the Word of God Revel 2. 5. Am●s 8. 11 12. taketh away the being of a Church both as a true Church and as a true visible Church and of such a breaking of the covenant doth the Lord speake Zach. 11. v. 9. and I said I will not feed you that which dieth let it die and that which perisheth let it perish c. and it taketh away the union of brotherhead amongst the members verse 14. so the thing in question is not hence concluded for the question is if a Church-covenant make a Church as visible and the breach of that Church-covenant unmake and dissolve a Church as visible and this place proveth what maketh and unmaketh a Church simply as a Church not as visible and under that reduplication Quest. 3. Whether by testimonies from the new Testament and good reasons a Church-covenant can be evinced Our Author alleageth 2 Cor. 11. 2. I have espoused you to one husband that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ so also the Apologie this was nothing else but the planting of the Church at Corinth if you say this Paul did while he converted them to the grace of Christ by his ministery if this were true saith he then should Christ have many thousands hundreds and scores at least of spouses in one Church which we thinke inconvenient Secondly it is plaine he speaketh of the whole Church as of one spouse and as it were one chaste Uirgin which argueth he perswaded them all as the friend of the bridegroome to give up themselves with one accord as one man into one body to the fellowship and worship of the Lord Jesus Answ. it is a weake cause that hangeth upon the untwisted thred of a misapplied metaphor For 1. espoufing into Christ in the Text is opposed to being deceived and corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ as Evah was deceived by the serpent and opposed to the receiving of another spirit and another Gospell so then to be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ and to receive another Gospell must have this meaning as Evah was deceived by the Serpent so I feare that your simple minds be un-Churched and loosed from the visible Church of Corinth and that you forget your covenant wherein ye sweare to take Christ for your husband and me for the friend of the Bridegroome and that you be remisse in the duties of externall discipline and Church-fellowship and in excommunicating scandalous persons c. A● brethren let not our Lords word be thus tortured and wrested 2. He expoundeth this espoufing the presenting of them to Christ in the day of God as a washed redeemed and saved wife of Christ and not of their Church continuing in visible society Yea all interpreters ancient and moderne as Augustine Theophylact Chrysostome Oecumenius Cyrillus Ambrose Our latter Calvin Bullinger Beza Pom●ran Pellicanus Sarcerius Marlorat Paraphrastes Erasmus and Papists Aquinas Haymo give this sense Paul as the friend to the Bridegroome finding the Corinthians despising him and in love with false teachers grew jealous of them for his Lords cause that though he had betrothed them to Christ as a virgin hand fastned by promise to a husband left they should be drawne away to other lovers by the cunning of false teachers as Evah was led from her Lord by subtill Satan 3. Though he speake of them as of one body spouse virgin how doth it follow that he speaketh of them as of a ministeriall and a parochiall body for the marriage the betrothing to Christ and the acts contrary the receiving of another spirit the corrupting of their simple minds are acts altogether spirituall internall invisible and acts of a Church as a true Church the contrary are acts of a false Church as false and not acts of a Church as visible in a visible meeting in a visible external act of marrying nor is their any insinuation that Paul feared the dissolving of the Church oath and visible order of government 4. It is not inconvenient that there be many Spouses as in every true beleever there be many single acts of marriage love and of beleeving and so of taking Christ for their husband and Lord. A visible Church is the House of God 1 Tim. 3. 15. the Temple of God Rev. 3. 12. and yet every beleever is a Temple 1 Cor. 3. 17. and every one His House seeing he dwelleth in them by saith Ephes. 3. 17. also if this be a good reason he speaketh of them all as of one chaste virgin Ergo he speaketh of
Distinct. There is a confession which containeth fundamentalls only the knowledge whereof is simply necessary for salvation and the simple ignorance whereof condemneth There is a confession which containeth fundamentalls and non fundamentalls which are not simplie necessary to be knowen by all necessitate ●●edii 3. Dist. A confession of faith is to be respected in regard of the matter which is Divine Scripture or according to the stile conception and in●erpretation which is in some respect humane 4. Distinct. There is a confession of a particular man what such a person or Church believeth de facto as the confession of ●●e Belgick Arminians and a confession de jure what every one ought to believe as the Nicen Creed the Creed of ●thanasi●s 5. Dist. There is a confession of a faith firme and sure quoad ●ertitudinem fidei quoad substantiam articulorum credendo●um sure in the Articles believed and a confession sure quoad radicationem fidei in subjecto the first way all are obliged ●● believe the Articles contained in the word But we see not how now after the Canon of Scripture is closed but the certainty of faith according to the measure of light more or lesse as our Lord more or lesse doth reveale himselfe in a more or lesse measure of ligh doth not grow wo● or decrease according to the certainy of faith the second way hence we say 1. Conclusion Onely the Word of God is the principall and formall ground of our Faith Eph. 2. 20 21 22. 2 Tim. 3. 16. Luk. 14. 25. 2. Concl. A confession of Faith containing all fundamentall points is so farre forth the Word of God as it agreeth with the Word of God and obligeth as a rule secundary which wee believe with subjection to God speaking in his owne Word and to this plat-forme wee may lawfullly sweare 1. What ever wee are obliged to believe and professe as the saving truth of God that we may lawfully sweare to professe believe and practise that the bond of faith may be sure but wee are obliged to believe and professe the nationall confession of a sound Church Ergo. The proposition is cleare from Davids and the Saints practise who layed bands on their soules to tie themselves to that which is lawfull as Psal. 119. 106. I have sworn and will performe it that I will keep thy Righteous judgements The major is the doctrine of our Dvines and cleare when they explaine the matter of a lawfull Oath as Pareus Bucanus Tilenus Profess Leydens Calvin Iunius Beza Piscator Zanchi● c. That things lawfull may lawfully be sworne to GOD observing other due circumstances The assumption is ●●deniable 2. Arg. That whereof we are assured in conscience to be the truth and true Religion bringing salvation to mens soules to that we may tie our selves by an Oath upon the former grounds But the sound confession of faith set downe in a platform● is such as we may and are to be assured of in conscience ● the truth of God Ergo The assumption is proved because what is Gods Word and truth of that we are to be assured of i● conscience as Col. 2. 7. Being knit together in love unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding and Heb. 6. 11. should keepe the full assurance of hope to the end Col. 2. 2 3. Eph. 4. 14. 3. If the people of the lewes did sweare a covenant with God to keep the words of the covenant to doe them Deut. 29. 9. 10 11. To seeke the Lord God of Israel with all their heart and with all their soule 2 Chron. 15. 12. and if they entered into a curse and an oath to walke in the Lords law which was given by Moses the servant of God to observe and doe all the Commandements of the Lord and subscribed and sealed the covenant with their hands Nehem. 10. 1. v. 29. Then is it lawfull for a Church to sweare and by oath subscribe an Orthodox confession But the former is true as the places alledged cleare Ergo so is the latter That which onely may be doubted of is the connexion of the major proposition because Israel did sweare to nothing but to Moses written Law which in matter and forme was Gods expresse written word but it will not follow that we may sweare a plat-forme of Divine truth framed and penned by men but the connexion notwithstanding of this remaineth sure because Israel did sweare the Lords covenant according to the true meaning and intent of the Holy Ghost as it is Gods Word and we also sweare a Nationall covenant not as it is mans word or because the Church or Doctors at the Churches direction have set it down in such and such words such an order or method but because it is Gods Word so that we sweare to the sense and meaning of the platforme of confession as to the Word of God now the Word of God and sense and meaning of the Word is all one Gods Law and the true meaning of the Law are not two different things When a Jew sweareth to the doctrine and covenant of God in the Old Testament in a Jewish meaning he sweareth not to the Word of God because the Word of God unsoundly expounded is not the Word of God and though the Sadducees and Pharisees sweare the five bookes of Moses and the very covenant which Asah and the Kingdome of Iud●h did sweare 2 Chron. 15. yet doe they not sweare the covenant of God and that same which Gods people did sweare 2 Chron. 15. Or if any professing they worship idols should sweare that covenant alledging the covenant doth not forbid idols to be memorials and objects by which absolute adoration is given to God we would not thinke that they had sworne the covenant of God but onely words of God falsely expounded yea and made to be not Gods Word but a plaine lying invention Therefore it is all one whether a Church sweare a confession in expresse words of Scripture or a covenant in other words expounding the Scriptures true meaning and sense according to the language and proper idiom of the Nation and Church for we sweare not words or a platforme as it is such but the matter sense and meaning of the Scriptures of God set downe in that platforme and it is certaine in Nehemiahs time there was some platforme either the writings of Moses or some sound exposition thereof else I see not how they could seale it Nehem. 9. 38. And because of all this we make a sure covenant and write it and our Princes Levites and Priests seale unto it Now that which was written could not but be a platforme either in Scripture onely according to the meaning of the exacters of the oath or some interpretation else every man writ his owne covenant and sealed it which is not like for they all joyntly sware this covenant and the reason of this written sworne and sealed covenant being morall as is cleare
a gift bestowed on all those who serve Tables and are not to give themselves to continuall praying and the Ministery of the Word I thinke papists will not say so much of all their priests and we can say it of none of our pastors nor doth Chysostome say that Steven as a Deacon and by vertue of the office of a Deacon wrought miracles but onely that his miracles and disputing was a meere consequent of laying on of hands Fa●ther laying on of hands was taken from the cus●ome of blessing amongst the Jewes Christ layd his hands upon young children and blessed them yet did hee not thereby designe them to any office The fourth councell of Carthage saith Deacons should administer the Sacraments but times were growing worse then and two things in ancient times made the office degenerate 1. The l●zinesse of pastors who layd preaching and baptizing on the Deacon 2. The Deacons having in their hands aerarium Ecclesiasticum the Church Treasury as the Church became rich the Deacons were exalted and then came in their Archiliaconi Archdeacons and Deacons and so some Deacons were above pastors whereas Acts 6. in their first institution they were inferior to pastors this moved Spalato to tell us of two sorts of Deacons the apostolick Deacons which we assert and the ecclesiastick Deacons popi● and of the newest cut which we discla●me As concerning the perpetuity of Deacons I conceive that Deacons must be as permanent in the Church as distribution and shewing mercy on the poore Ob. 13. How doe those words Act. 6. v. 7. and the word of God grew and the number of Disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly c. follow upon the institution of Deacons v. 2 3 4. 5 6. if Deacons were not according to their primitive institution and Office ordained to be Preachers of the word by whose paines the word grew Answ. The cohesion three wayes is good 1. Because the Apostles being exonerated of serving Tables and giving themselves to continuall praying and the ministery of the word v. 2. Through the constituting of the seven Deacons the word thereby did grow 2 Satan stirred up a schisme betwixt the Grecians and Hebrewes which is prejudiciall to the growth of the Gospell and Church yet the Lord being superabundantly gratious where Satan is exceedingly malitious will have his Gospell and Church to flourish 3. These words v. 7. doe cohere kindly with the last verse of the foregoing Chapter v. 41. And dayly in the Temple and in every house they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ and Ch. 6. v. 7. And the word of God increased c. God blessing the labours of his persecuted Apostles and the story of the ordained Deacons is cast in by Luke upon occasion of the neglected Grecian Widdowes and the growth of the word could not arise from the appointing of such officers who were not to labour in the word and prayer but imployed about Tables to the end that the Apostles might labour in the word and prayer Ob. 14. But doth not the faithfull administration of the Deacons office purchase to the Deacon a good degree that is doth it make him ●●●ter in a preparatory way to be a Pastor Answ. The word of God 1 Tim. 3. and elsewhere setting downe the qualification and previous dispositions of a Teacher doth no where teach us that none can be a minister but he who is first a Deacon 2. Didcclavius saith many are faithfull Deacons who are never Teachers nor apt to be Teachers and many in the ancient Church were of lay men made Teache●r Ambrosius heri Catechumenus hodie Episcopus and Estius granteth many good Deacons can never be Teachers because of their ignorance Hugo Cardinal saith this is onely against these qui subito ascendunt in pr●lationes who suddainly ascend to prelacies Cornelius a lapide saith ut promereantur altiùs promoveri in sacerdotia they are to serve so as they may deserve to be promoted to higher places but this doth not infer that none can be presbyters who have not first beene Deacons As Chrysostome saith we use not to place a novice in an high place antequam fidei suae vitae dederit doc●m●nta before hee have given proofe of his faith and good conversation And Cyprian writing to Antonianus commendeth Cornelius that hee came not by a leap and suddainly to be a Bishop sed per omnia ecclesiastica officia promotus being promoted by degrees to all Church-Offices and Bernard followeth the same meaning Lyra merebu●tur quod fiant sacerdotes acquirunt altiorem gradum saith Salmeron Now it is cleare that the fathers and papists could extort no more out of the Text but that hee who useth the office of a Deacon well doth deserve of the Church to be promoted to an higher office but there is no ground for papists or others to make the Deacons office a necessiary degree without the which none can be a Teacher Sozomenus saith the Deacons office was to keepe the Churches goods Epiphanius Diaconis in ecclefia non con creditum est ut aliquod mysterium perficiant sed ut administrent solùm exequantur commissa then they might neither teach nor baptize Eusebius saith the care of the poore and the keeping of the Church and the vessels thereof were committed to the Deacons Ruffinus saith Deacons disputed in Synods and Athanasius when hee was a Deacon helped his Bishop Alexander at the Nicen councell but this came as I suppose because about the fourth century they were admitted to be scribes in Synods Ambrose saith at the beginning Deacons did preach and baptise but after when the Church was well furnished with officers they durst not presume to teach The Canon of the councel of Nice saith Diaconi ne sedeant in concessu presbyterorum aut illis praesentibus Eucharistiam dividant sed illis agentibus solùm ministrent if there was not a presbyter present Ruffinus saith then the Deacon might distribute the Elements I conceive the place 1 Tim. 5. saith that Widowes were in the Apostolick Church both poore aged Women who were to be mantained by the Church and also auxiliary helps for meere service to helpe the Deacons in these hot Countries Both is apparent from the Text honour Widowes that are Widowes indeed that is as Hugo Cardinalis expoundeth it who want both the comfort of an husband and of Children to maintaine them and so also Chrysostome before him expounded it and Hugo Cardinalis the honour that is due to them is say Chrysostome Theophylact Anselmus that they bee sustained by the oblations of the Church Ecclesiae oblationibus sustententur say Salmeron and Estius and Cornelius à lapide saith as honour thy Father and thy Mother doth include h●norem sustentationis that children are to give the honour of maintenance to their indigent parents no lesse then the honour of obedience and reverence so are Widowes to have
by the Word of God and care of Pastors but servants are taken into great houses because they are servicable for if that follow that they are made more servicable it is not the intent of the Lord of the house or of the under-stewards 3. The Oeconomy of Princes houses is no rule for the government of the house of the King of Kings Mr. Coachman while the materialls and pillars of the house are rotten and the house founded upon Briers Brambles and rubbish that is while wicked men are members no Discipline 〈◊〉 Reformation no censures no Election by the multitude will doe good Answ. The connexion is naught the fruit and power of Gods ordinances depend not upon the conversion or non-conversion of the instruments the preaching Sacraments censures are of themselves golden and exercisers and dispensers thereof following Christs direction therein are golden eatenus in so far though in respect of their personall estate they be wooden and clay members voyd of faith 2. It is false that the visible Church is founded upon men or their Faith God strengtheneth the barres of his own Sion And Christ and the Gospell are the pillars thereof Nay the Church strandeth not upon Peter and Paul and the Apostles faith subjective because the Apostles were holy men and Believers but upon the Apostles Faith objectivè that is upon the saving truth that the Apostles delivered from Christ to the Churches Ephes. 20. 21. 1 Cor. 3. 11 12. Mat. 16 v. 18. Quest. 3. Whether or no there be a true Church communion with ordinary hearers of the Word who cannot be admitted to the Lords Supper and what union excommunicated persons who d● heare the Word have with the visible Church and how the preaching of the Gospell is an essentiall note of the visible Church For the clearing of these confiderable poynts tending much to a fuller understanding of a true visible Church in its right constitution let these considerations make way to what we can say of these poynts 1. Dist. There is a difference betwixt ordinary and setled bearers of the Word and transient and occasionall hearers 2. Dist. Publick ordinary preaching for the converting of soul●● is a publick Church worship Another set way of ordinary publick use of converting soules by preachers not in office wee know not 3. Dist. Some be members of the visible Church properly and strictly such as are admitted to all the seales of the covenant and holy things of God Others are lesse properly or in an inferiour degree members of the visible Church such as are baptized and are ordinary hearers of the Word but not admitted to the Lords Supper of old the Catechumenoi were such As there be decr●●s of Citizens some having all the priviledges of the City and some onely right to some priviledges but not to all 3. Some have right to all and are most properly in the visible Church 4. Dist. Excommunication being medicinall and for edificati●● cannot cut off the member close except we should confound killing and curing 5. Dist. There is a note of a ministeriall Church such as is preaching of the Word of God and a note of the visible Church of Believers and obedience professed to the Word preached is such a note 6. Dist. Preaching of the Word may well be a note of the Church invisible in fieri while it is in gathering because God purposeth to convert where the Word is purely preached 2. A note of the invisible Church already constituted in so far as it is obeyed And. 3. A note of the Ministeriall Church in respect where God holdeth out the Standard of the preached word there is his ordered army 1. Conclusi To communicate with the Church ordinatily and of set purpose is an act of externall Church communion 1. Because if the preacher in preaching edifie the Church convened for that effect to receive edification and if he convince the I●fidell by preaching and cause him fall downe and worship God and report that God is in that meeting then to communicate with the Church in hearing and preaching is an act of externall Church communion Because an act of worship terminated and bounded upon the Church is a Church-act But the prophet prophecying in publick to the Church edifieth the Church and converteth infidells in causing them to worship acknowledge Gods presence in a Church-meeting As is cleare 1. Cor. 14. 4. He that prophecieth edifieth the Church v. 5. v. 12. seek that you excell to the edifying of the Church 29. Yet in the Church I had rather speak five words with my understanding c. 23. If therefore the whole Church be come together into some place and all speake with tongues and there come in these that are unlearned and Unbelievers will they not say that yee are mad 24. But if all prophecy and there come in one that believeth not or one that is unlearned he is convinced of all c. And that this is a Church-meeting formally it is cleare because it is said 34. let your women keepe silence in the Churches now women out of a Church-meetings are not commanded silence for Tit. 2. 4. They are to teach the younger women and at home in the house Prov. 31. 26. She openeth her mouth with wisdome and the Law of grace is in her lips Acts 20. 7. and upon the first day of the week the Disciples came together to breake bread and Paul preached to them Had they not then a Church Communion in hearing the Word as in the receiving the Sacrament Our brethren say that eating one bread together at the Lords Table is properly a Church Communion For thereby we may eat one bread we are one body for we all partake of one bread 1 Cor. 10. 18. But heating one word is not a Church-communion because Infidels and Turkes who are not members of the Church may heare one word 1 Cor. 14. 24 25. I answer 1. Wee speake of a professed and resolved hearing Turks and Infidels comming in without purpose to joyne with the Church as 1 Cor. 14. 2. 25. are not such hearers 2. If this were a good reason a latent hypocrite eating one bread with sound believers at the Lords Table should keepe no Church-communion with the Church for by our Brethrens Doctrine a ●ypocrilt is no more in deed and truth a member of the visible Church then a leg of wood is a member of a living body But we hold that he is a true member of the Church as visible and that his binding and loosing with the Church suppose he be an Elder is no lesse valid in Heaven when Christs order is followed then the binding and loosing of a believing Elder and therefore that his eating at the Lords Table is an act of externall Church-communion and of visible fellowship in a visible body and the same is every way strong for a visible Church-fellowship in hearing the Word for that same Christ and fellowship with him which is sealed in the Sacrament
that he may learne not to blaspheme 1 Tim 1. 12. That be may be gained Mat. 18. 15. Ergo he is not altogether cut off from the Church for delivering to Satan is medicinall not vindictive as the great Excommunication is which is called Anathema Maranatha which we cannot use but against such as have sinned the sin against the Holy Ghrist and is hardly discerned and I would think such an one as Julian the Apostate should be debarred from the communion of the word preached But these who are ordinarily excommunicated for contumacy and particular faults and not for universall Apostacy are not altogether excluded from all brotherhood of the Church 3. If the excommunicate person be excluded from all priviledges of Church-fellowship then also is he excluded from hearing the word as a sick patient under Church-medicine for it is a pastorall and so to our Brethren a Church-act that the Shepheard strengthen the diseased heale that which is sick bind up that which is broken bring againe that which is driven away seeke that which is lost Ezec. 34. 4. And feed the flock with knowledge as a Pastor according to Gods heart and a Bishop Jer. 3. 15. Act. 20. 28. 1 Pet. 5. 2. Jerem. 23. 1 2 3 4. Jer. 50. 7. Esay 56. 10. Z●ch 11. 9 10 11 12. It is a Pastorall act to preach with all authority reprove rebuke exhort with all long suffering and doctrine 2 Tim. 4. 2. 5. He should as a Pastor teach sound doctrine exhort convince the gainsayers and silence heretickes Tit. 1. 9. But seeing the excommunicated person is not excluded from hearing the word and the Pastor hath a Pastorall care of his soule and is to intend that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord 1 Cor. 5. 5. he cannot be utterly cut off from all Church-fellowship Also this Authour saith that Church-members are to be admonished and if we doe it not we hate them in our heart Levit. 19. 17. and if we warne not an Achan his sin is the sin of all Israel Now if an excommunicated brother remaine one whom we are to gaine and whose salvation we are to intend if he be an ordinary coworshipper in hearing the object of Pastorall and brotherly teaching and admonishing he cannot be wholly excluded from all Church-fellowship And this also proveth that these be members of the visible Church in some degree of Church-worship who yet are deba●red from the ●eale● of the Covenant And it cannot be said that the excommunicated person ought not to rebuke his brother and not hate him in his heart as Levit. 19. 17. Penall excommunication looseth not from the Law of nature But our brethren make rebuking and mutuall exhorting one of another Church duties of watchfulnesse then is the excommunicated in some degree of Church-membership Nor can our brethren here reply with good reason Indians and Turks may heare the Word as well as the excommunicated person and therefore hearing of the word is no note of Church communion I answer the Turke and Indian must heare the word but at the by and not professedly but the excommunicated person by the●ty of his Covenant made in baptisme and that relation he hath to the Church under whose cure he is for the saving of his spirit and to that Gospel which he professeth is obliged to the Church-communion of publique hearing the Word yea and according to his oath given to be subject to the ministery of such a man whom he chose for his Pastor to give obedience to him in the Lord however in that one particular for which he is cast cut he hath failed against all the foresaid obligations 2. The Church as a visible Church exerciseth no medicinall acts upon Turks or Heathen persons and doth not repute them as Heathen but doth repute them to be Heathen Nor hath the Pastors any pastorall charge of Turkes and Heathens except they would desire to be baptized and professe the faith But the Church as the Church exerciseth medicinall acts of shunning Christian f●ll●wship with the excommunicated and that with a continuated intention even when he is excommunicated that his spirit may be saved in the day of God and the Pastor hath a pastorall and so a ministeriall care and obligation of pastorall teaching admonishing and perswading him to returne to God 4. Neither doe we meane with Suarez and other Schoolmen that excommunication doth not so cut off a member as it removeth not that baptismall character or that passive power to receive the Sacraments or that the prayers of the Church are not offered of direct intention for the inwardly humbled and repenting excommunicated person while the sentence of absolution be pronounced by the Church as Soto Adrianus and Alanus thinketh because forsooth Innocentius 111. saith the excommunicated person though repenting and doing what he can to be reconciled to the Church yet without absolution from the censure he is mortuus Ecclesiasticè dead Ecclesiastically and so in Heaven also Though Navar Turrecremata Richard Anton. thinke the penitent excommunicated person is included in the generall desires of the Church in their prayers because it is not the intention of the Church to exclude a true and living member of Christs body from a communion spirituall with Christ. But our meaning is that the excommunicated person is deprived of actuall fellowship with Christ in the Seales of the Covenant as the Councell of Arausican A gremio 〈◊〉 matris Ecclesiae consortio totius Christianitatis climina●us His sin is bound in Heaven yet so as the salvation of his spirit is intended by the Church see for this Augustine We understand not a baptismall character except regeneration and 〈◊〉 of sins which cannot be taken away by excommunication and therefore a morall claime to the holy things of God and that for that time and state is rather removed then any internall right to Christ. Therfore some say in this he loseth rather possessionem quam jus possession then right As a Nobleman for some offence of three dwelling houses that he hath is confined to one of the three so as he may not remove from that one yet doth he not lose right to the other two 5. Our brethrens doctrine is that none can be judged and excommunicated but those who are within the visible Church now none are within to them but such as are supposed to be regenerated and saints yea and more faithfull brethren not onely in profession saith our Authour but also in some measure of sincerity and truth Hence none are to be excommunicated and delivered to Satan but regenerated persons then it cannot be the Churches mind that the excommunicated persons are wholy cut off from the visible Church since they being the true matter of the Church as our brethren teach remains therefore a part of Christs body in covenant with God having right to the promises of the Covenant and so these to whom
and inward senses and as i● revealeth and discovereth the things of God according to that 1 Cor. 14. 24. But if all prophecy and there come one who is an unbeliever and an unlearned he is convinced of all and judged of all v. 25. and thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest and so falling downe on his face he will worship God and report that God is in you of a truth So here is Gods order how the word preached is a notifying marke discovering to an unbeliever the true Church It I would poynt out one of the Kings Courtiers by this that he hath a purple cloak and a blew scarf if the man to whom I notifie the Courtier do neither know what a purple garment is nor what a blew scarf is the marke shall be no marke to him yet are these sufficient markes in their owne nature if we suppose that no other Courtiers are in that manner apparelled Therefore I would difference betwixt notam notificantem notam notificativam a note that of its owne nature doth make a thing knowen or that which actually maketh a thing knowen to some The settled professed preaching of the Word is a note of the visible Church Ministeriall and that there either is or in Gods own time shall be some invisible Church of sanctified ones there 1. Because Deut. 4. 6 the hearing and doing of Gods Word maketh the Church of the Jewes a renowned and wise people in the fight of the Nations 2. The preaching of the Word and administration of the Sacraments are proper to the Church and distinguish them from other Nations Psal. 147. 19. Hee sheweth his word unto Iacob and to Israel his statutes and his judgments 20. He hath not dealt so with any Nation So Deut. 17. 29. 30 31 32. The Lords worship is so peculiar to his Church as it differenceth them from all others So Esd. 2. 8. 3. Esa. 59. last verse 3. The Church is defined Acts 2. 42. a company of these who professe truly and continue in the Apostles doctrine and breaking of bread 4. The planting and gathering of Churches is expounded to be teaching and baptizing Mat. 28. 19. 20. 5. Christs sheep heare his voyce in his own sent shepheards Joh. 10. 27. 28. 6 The Church is a company built upon the Doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles Eph. 2. 20. 7 The Church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim. 3. 15. because the Church teacheth professeth and keepeth the truth So Augustine Tertullian Hierom. and Chrysostome will have us to seeke the true Church by the true Word of God and not by mens word Robinson objecteth first Profession of the truth made by men of lewd conversation maketh them not the Church because they deserve to be cast out of the Church but by men visibly and externally holy Mat. 3. 6. Acts 1. 38. Act. 2. 37 38. 1 Cor. 15. 1. Mat. 10. 40. 41. Acts 8. 12 13. Answ. These and many other places do strongly prove our poynt and especially that the profession of Simon Magus who before God deserved to be cast out of the Church Acts 8. is sufficient to make one a member of a visible Church Yea but none deserve in foro Ecclesiae in the Churches Court to becast out but such as either confesse scandalous sins or are contumacious or convicted judicially of the same before witnesses otherwayes the dearest to Christ do legally before God deserve all to be cast out Robinson saith The word in the Bible is no note of the true Church but the Word believed and obeyed for Papists have the Bible And Mr. Coachman saith the Philistims had the Arke amongst them and a Iesuit at a river side baptized with a skoop a thousand Indians were they for that a true Church and Papists saith our Authour have baptisme Ans. The like is objected by Socinus Theoph. Nicolaides Cattch Raccoviensis and by Anabaptists But first we make not the word and materiall Bible and naked seales the marks of the true invisible Church we are now disputing about the markes of a visible Church 2. We make not the naked presence of Word and Sacraments true markes of the Church but a setled professed erected feeding by shepheards feeding with knowledge we make a marke of the shepheards Tents which way neither Philistines nor Indians have the Word of God and for the Church of Rome we cannot deny but she retaineth so much of the essence of a ministeriall Church as maketh baptisme administrated by them to be true baptisme that is a valid seale though she cannot 〈◊〉 be called a true ministeriall Church Other two questions here are shortly to be discussed as belonging to this purpose as 1. whether discipline be a marke of the visible Church Mr. Robinson saith the power of censures is simply necessary for the being of the Church sundry of our Divines affirm it is So the learned Professors of Leyden and Ursin with Pareus Great Junius saith it is a note belonging to the Churches order ad decorum the Augustine confession leaveth it out from amongst the notes and so doth Calvin and Whittakerus make two notes onely Word and Sacraments Learned Beza maketh onely the preaching of the Word a note not excluding the other two I thinke Distinctions may help the matter 1. There is a power of discipline and there is a care thereof True Churches have a power given them of Christ and this Robinson proveth and no more yet the care to exercise the power may be wanting in a true Church 2. Distinct. Right discipline is not necessary for the essence of a visible Church All our Divines condemne Anabaptists and Pelagians who plead that righteous men onely and such societies as have right discipline to be true Churches 2. Novatians and Donatists came neere to them in this also as we may see in Augustine So Rich. Field Parker Cartwright make it necessary to the wel-being of the Church 1. Because it is not indifferent 2. Because it is commanded in Gods word 3. Discipline in the substantiall points is immutable 4. It is necessary in respect of the end And all this the learned Parker demonstrateth to be true But it is not necessary simply to the being of it as a City may be without walls a Garden without an hedge 3. Distinct. The power and right to discipline is a propriety essentiall to the Church and is not removed from it till God remove the Candlesticke and the Church cease to be a visible Church but the exercise may be wanting and the Church a true visible Church from which we are not to separate 4 Discipline is a necessary note and unseparable from a visible Church whole intire and not lame and imperfect But ● Church may retaine the essence and being of a visible Church and yet have no discipline in actuall use or little and though want of
discipline doe leaven a Church yet it doth not as Robinson saith evert the nature thereof and turne it into Babylon and a den of Dragons Robinson will have prophanenesse and impiety by absolute necessity rooted out by discipline but he is too hasty Nay not by publique preaching of a sent Pastor through absolute but onely through ordinary and conditionall necessity You bind the Almighty too hard The other question is if conversion of sinners be an ordinary effect of a publique and sent ministery Our brethren in their answer to the 32 Questions sent to them deny this but no marvell seeing all conversion to them is done without the publique ministery by onely private Christians and in this we see no necessity of a called ministery to convert men to Christ which is the doctrine of Socinians and Anabaptists So Chemnitius so Gastius teacheth The Socinian Theo. Nicolaides Luther erred saith he when he asked from Muncerus his calling to preach Muncerus was an Anabaptist So Ostorodius in his institutions and Raddetius who objected the same that our brethren doe that the whole beleevers be a royall Priesthood But though we deny not but some may be converted by the teaching and private conference of private Christians yet the ordinary publique way is by the Word preached by a se●● Pastor as is cleare Rom. 10. 14. 1 Cor. 3. 5. Acts 9. 10. Acts 10. 5 6 c. CHAP. 10. SECT 10. Concerning our order and form in administration of Gods publique worship THe Authour here contendeth for the worship of God in its native simplicity without all ceremonies to which I can oppose nothing but shall prove the unlawfulnesse of humane ceremonies in another Treatise God-willing Of the communion of the visible Catholique Church IEsus Christ hath now under the N. Testament a Catholique visible Church on earth for of that part of the Catholique Church now triumphing in glory or of that part which onely is a Church of elected Saints and are not yet formally a professing Church but onely such in the predestinatiun of God I spake not now and to this Church universall visible hath the Lord given a ministery and all his Ordinances of Word and Sacrament principally and primarily and to the ministery and guides of this Catholique visible Church hath the Lord committed the Keyes as to the first subject and for the visible Church Catholique including also the invisible Church as for the object and end hath he given his ordinances and the power of the keyes And the Ministery and ordinances are not given to this or this Congregation which meeteth ordinarily in one place principally 1. The Lord Iesus gave this Ministeriall power to the universall guides of the catholick Church the Apostles as they did represent the Presbytery of the whole Catholick visible Church Ioh. 20. 21. As my Father sent me so send I you 22. And when he had thus sayd he breathed on them and said receive the Holy Ghost 23 whosoever sinnes you remit they are remitted and whosoever sinnes you retaine they are retained The Apostles here receive the keys in name of the whole Catholick Ministeriall guides For in this the Apostles must stand in the person and roome of a single society of believers united by a Church covenant in one parishonall Church if our brethrens grounds stand good so as a Parishionall Church must be the onely successors of the Apostles but this no Word of God can warrant Nor is the Eldership of a single Congregation that which the Apostles here represented except you say to this Eldership as to the first subject is this message of sending as the Father sent Christ committed and to this Eldership within one Congregation is the power Ministeriall of pardoning and retaining sinnes given For I aske from whence or from whose hands do the Eldership of a Congregation receive the keys from Jesus Christ say they but this is no answer the Ministery according to its institution is no doubt onely from the head of the body the Church from Iesus Christ. But I aske now of an ordinary Church-calling and I demand from whose hands under Jesus Christ have this particular Eldership received Ministeriall power they cannot say from themselves for they doe not make themselves Ministers they will not say from a Colledge of Presbyters of many congregations for they are flatly against all such presbyteries and that which they say indeed the Eldership of a congregation hath their Ministeriall power from the people Well then the Apostles when they received the keys they did represent the people but what people not the people of a classicall presbytery of a Province of a Nation of the whole redeemed Church but of one single congregation how shall this be made out of the Text or out of one Word of God I see not 2. Christ ascending on high and giving some to be Apostles and some Prophets and some Evangelists and some Pastors and Teachers 12. For the perfecting of the Saints not of Ephesus far lesse of one single Congregation onely for the worke of the Ministery in generall for the edifying of the Body of Christ not a congregationall body onely 12. Till we all meet in the unity of the Faith and of the knowledge of the Sonne of God unto a perfit man unto the measure of the stature of the fulnesse of Christ. Consider I pray you that Christs intention in giving a Ministery is not for a congregation of forty or sixty or a hundred as if hee intended to impawn all power in that Congregationall body but hee intended the edifying of his body Catholick and the comming of all to the unity of the Faith A Congregation of sixty cannot be all Saints and this power is clearely given to that body which the Lord is to make a perfit man according to the measure of the fulnesse of the stature of Christ this is a mysticall man and the Catholick body of Iesus Christ. Call it a Congregation and you wrest the Scripture and vilifie the noble and large end for the which Christ hath given a ministery as aske to what end and to what first and principall subject hath the Lord given reason and a faculty of discoursing is it to Peter to Iohn c. as to the first subject and for them as for their good no no it is for and to the race of mankind The case is is just so here 1 Cor. 12. 28. God hath placed some in the Church first Apostles secondarily Prophets thirdly Teachers c. Is the meaning thus God hath placed in the body of a single Congregation Apostles Where do you read that I believe Apostles have the Catholick visible Church for their Parish and is it a Congregationall body wherein God placed such variety of members as Apostles Prophets Teachers Workes of miracles gifts of Healing Helps Governments c So Rom. 12. 5. So we being many are one body in Christ and every one members of another Hence hee
reckoneth out divers offices in this body Now this is not one Congregation onely but that one Body of Christ whereof Christ is head this is the Catholick Church 2. What power ministeriall our Brethren affirme to bee given to a Congregation they say it is given to them under the notion of a flock of redeemed ones of the Spouse and body of Christ as they cite for this act 20. 28. Col. 1. 18. Eph. 1. 22 and under the notion of the City of God the Kingdome house and building of Christ but so they come to our hand for this reduplication or notion of a flock of redeemed ones of the body and spouse of Christ of the City Kingdome House Building agree first to the Catholick Church as is clear Col. 1. 8. Eph. 5. 25 26. 1 Tim. 3. 15. Eph. 2. 19 20 21 22. and secondarily only to a Congregation as it is a part of this universall flock 3. The whole Catholick Church visible is made one ministeriall body Cant. 6. 4. beautifull as Tirzah comely as the City of Jerusalem terrible as an army with banners By reason of their order of discipline and is there called an organicall body having v. 6 7 8. Eyes Haire Teeth Temples Locks and haveing particular Churchs under her three score Queens fourescore concubines and virgins without number Yet is it sayd v. 9. My Dove my undesiled is but one she is the only one of her Mother Ainsworth who here may be more then a witnesse sayth this one Church is the daughter of Jerusalem who is above and the mother of us ●ll C●ton a witnesse not inferior saith on this place The true catholick Church of Christ is the Mother of all reformed Daughters and that argument that our Brethren useth to prove a particular Church to be visible because of externall communion not in one House for that is accidentall to visibility one congregation may meet in three caves of the Earth in time of persecution and yet remaine one congregation holdeth good in this catholick church made up of so many organs as a congregation is formed 1. Begetting by the Ministery of the word daughter-Churches to God as they say a congregation doth nor is it enough to say Ierusalem is not one by externall government and order of Discipline because they cannot meet together to exercise Discipline but shee is one invisibly because shee hath one Faith one Lord one Baptisme one Spirit one Hope of glory For the Text sayth they have one and the same Organs Teeth Eyes Haire Temples Locks they are one Ierusalem and compact City one Army terrible by the Sword of of discipline 2. We do not say to make them one visible church that they must have one visible actuall government in externall order for when of a congregation of 60. their be 30 absent through sicknesse and the busines of a lawfull calling they are one Church visible though in one metting you cannot see them all with one cast of your Eye and when the church of Ierusalem exceeding in number ten thousand did meet in part from House to House that is in sundry Houses yet continuing in the same doctrine of the Apostles and in fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayer Acts 2. 46. 32. our brethren will say they are one church And therefore the power of Discipline and the exercise of the Word Seales and Discipline in parts is sufficient to make one visible catholick Church 4. To that Church hath Christ given as to the first church the ordinances and ministery which he principally intendeth to perfit to gather and to bring to the unity of faith in a perfit body by these ordinances and that Ministery because the wisdome of Christ hath not given his Ministery and Ordinances to the catholick Church intending principally to save them except he give them a power in that Ministery to the first subject which being put forth in acts may compasse that end But Jesus Christ principally intends to perfit to gather to bring to the unity of faith in a perfit body by these ordinances and Ministery the whole catholick visible church and secondarily only this or this particular congregation Ergo Christ hath given to the whole catholick Church as to the first Church the ordinances and Ministery and so in this Mioistery catholick hee ha h given the Keys to this catholick Church visible as to the first Church 5. I prove it thus when ever Chrst giveth gifts to a whole he giveth it to the whole by order of nature before he give it to the parts of that whole as is cleare by induction He gives Christ a gift to the whole Church by order of nature first to the World Joh. 3. 16. Then to this or this believer of the World So he giveth redemption and grace by order of nature first to his Church in generall Eph. 5. 25. Christ dieth first for his Church not this or that single company or particular person first for His sheep that is the whole flock Joh. 10. v. 11. then for this or this company or this of this straying sheep He came to seeke and save first the lost Luk. 19. 10. then this or this lost man He died first to gather together in one not one man onely yee not the nation of the Iewes onely but to gather together in one all the Children of God which were scattered abroad Ioh. 11. 25. and he is a propitiatiou by order of nature First for the sinnes of the whole World 1 Ioh. 2. 1. and then secondarily for our sinnes so hath hee given the gifts of Apostles Prophets and Teachers first to and for Saints in common and in generall and not for this and that Saint or for this company of Saints at Ephesus Now that particular Congregations are parts of the great visible Church I prove and first that they are parts visible of a Presbytery or a circuit of Congregations within the locall bounds of a Presbytery I make good thus Those who have one common necessary object of externall government in Church-affairs those are a whole visible community gifted with power from Christ to rule in that common and necessary object of government and this and this portion of this whole community must be parts of that whole But those Congregations within the locall bounds of the circuit of a Presbytery have one common necessary object of externall government in Church affaires Ergo those Congregations in such a circuit must be parts of this whole The major I take from our Brethren who therefore make a particular Congreation to be one in respect of ordinary meeting to partake of word seales and to transect matters of jurisdiction amongst themselves but this agreeth to many congregations within one circuit for they meet occasionally one with another in hearing the word and receiving the seales and for the assumption I prove it thus all those congregations have these particulars of externall government in Church affaires which they cannot
congregation of which the ' Delinquent is a member or after that you have complained to that congregation if the former be said then you cannot tell the presbytery or superior Courts but in case of obstinacy for if you can gaine a Brother or a Church in a private way you are not to bring him to a more publickeshame that is contrary to Christs order v. 15. If he heare thee thou hast gained thy brother And if you tell it the Presbytery and the superior Courts after you have told it to the Church whereof he is a member then you make foure steps in your reclaiming your brother where Christ hath made but three Ans. Christs order according to the number of steps are three when the fault is private scandalls of many Congregations cannot be private and in publick scandalls we cannot go but to that church which the offence doth immediatly concerne and if you make foure steps or five according to your grounds I see no transgression if 1. You admonish the offender 2. Before two 3. Before the half of the Elders 4. Before all the Elders and. 5. If you be willing that the Elders bring it to the hearing of the Congregation the number of three precisely are not of positive Divine institution they are only set downe by Christ to shew we are to labour to gaine our brother in private before we publish his shame to the Church and if he commit the offence before two I think you need not tell him your selfe alone but before two and yet the offence is private if three only be privy to it seeing it is not yet come to the Church 3. I much doubt if no faults be punishable by excommunication but only obstinacy I thinke the 〈◊〉 of incest parricide and the like deserveth excommunication though no contumacy be supervenient to such crimes Ob. 7. The Church spoken of Mat. 18. is all one with the House of God and the House of Prayer where two or three agree to pray for onething v. 19. and the place where worshiping is and word and Sa●raments that society in which stewards give a portion of the trea●● of life to every child of the House Mat. 24. 45 1 Cor. 4. 1. 2. 〈◊〉 publick Rebukes are tendered to these who sin publickly before all that others may feare 1 Tim. 5. 20. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 this must be in the Churches hearing and before the Congregation meet for the Word and Sacraments for these ordinances of God worke for the edifying both of the party reproved and before all the Congregation which shall heare and feare and they worke upon the Heart as the Word of God doth now a presbyteriall Church convened in some Elders of divers Congregations for Church censures and exercise of jurisdiction is not such a House of God where are the Word Sacraments and publick rebukes in the hearing of the Congregation for the Congregations of all the presbytery being 20. or 30. cannot meet in one Church Answ. That onely a Congregation and not the catholick Church is the House of God I judge the Word of God cannot teach as Esai 56. 5. To them will I give a name within my House What a name to be a member of a single Congregation No but of a whole visible Church opposed to the condition of Eu●uches and strangers v. 4. that were not of the people of God Cant. 1. 17 The beames of our House are cedars this is the catholick Church and Spouse of Christ Cant. 3 4. I would not let Him goe till I brought Him to my Mothers House not a Congregation but Ierusalem saith Ainsworth the Mother of us all Cotton the Catholick Church Alstedius Ierusalem Heb. 3. 2. as Moses was faithfull in all his House Not a single congregation 2. This Church here is formally a Ministeriall Church meeting to bind and loose and excommunicate Nor is there need to expound it of an House of praying congregationally but rather 2. 19. of ligatory and authoritative prayers of the Presbytery 3. Nor is rebuking in a Congregation for the edifying of the hearers any thing but the execution of the judiciall sentence of a Presbyteriall Church which we grant may be done in the congregation whereof the Delinquent is a member and yet the Church here shall not signifie a congregation convened for the Word and S●crame●ts except you say all the people must necessarily be present yea and authoritative actors to bind and loose as this Church is expresly called v. 18. for if the place speake 1 Tim. 5. 20. of concionall rebuking then it proveth nothing that is done by Timothy as a Pastor virtute potest at is ordinis and not by the Presbytery as an act of jurisdiction which is done by the Church not by one man if it be meant of juridicall rebuking that is done in a Court where all the congregation are not present or if it be done before the congregation in Name of the Presbytery what is done before the Church 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 before many is not done by those many as if they were the Church which our Saviour biddeth us tell and sure nothing i● here against us Ob. 8. The Word Church is never used in the New Testament for the Presbytery and if it signifie a Representative Church the meaning of this the Angell of the Church of Pergamus might be the Angell of the Church of Pergamus for the Representative Church is the Eldership of that Church Answ. This being the first time that Christ spake of the Church which the Hebrewes or Iewes who knew his language behoved to understand hee could not meane any thing but a representative Church not the common multitude and though it were taken other wayes in all Scriptures beside here it must have this meaning because he speakth of a court If he heart not the Church c 2 Of a company who bindeth and looseth on Earth 3. Whose sentence is ●atified in Heaven 4. Binding and loosing are words of highest royall judiciall authority in Scripture Psal. 105. 20. The King sent and loosed him 21. He made him Lord over his House v. 22. to bind his Princes at his pleasure Psal. 148. 8. To bind their Kings with chaines and their Nobles with fetters of Iron v. 9. To execute upon them the judgement written Mat. 22. 13. Take him and bind him Pauls being in bands is to be under the Judges power Acts 12 6. Peter was bound with two chaines So the Captaine of the Guard J●r 40. 4. and now be hold I loose thee this day from thy chaines 2. The representative Church is not called the Elders of the representative Church nor the Angell of the representative Church but of the collective Church and therefore there is no Angell of a Church of a Church here Ob. 9. From the Church here spoken of their is no appeale because the sentence is ratified in Heaven 2. It inflicteth the highest punishment the censure of excommunication and a
the offence which is the subject of excommuncation The whole ministeriall Church is that particular Church together with the Presbytery and my reason is there is a Church Acts 2. consisting of one and thirty hundred and twenty all called one Church Now it is said of this Church that they continued vers 42. stedfastly in the Apostles doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and prayer but where did they meet vers 46. not onely in the Temple but dayly from house to house This whole number hath had v. 42. one Church-fellowship one Word one Supper of the Lord but in one meeting at once No but they met from house to house that is in any private house as the phrase is here 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and Acts 20. 20. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Now it is cleare there were Congregations and Churches when Word and Sacraments were in private houses at Jerusalem and from house to house in Ephesus but I hope these were but parts of the Church at Ierusalem and Ephesus and that they could not meet all in one house If one therefore complaine of a scandalous person to the Church of Ephesus convened in a house possibly in an upper Chamber or elsewhere this is a meeting that continueth in prayer and breaking of bread and so hath power of Church-censures to admonish and rebuke which things belong to that single Congregation or Church in a private house but it hath not power to censure those that offend the consociated Congregations that meet also 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in houses that is to excommunicate and therefore he must complaine to the Elders of Ephesus ●o● we are not to thinke that the false Jewes who were censured by the Apostles of Ephesus Rev●● 2. 2. did onely infest houses or one Congregation meet in a house or that one House-Church or House-Congregation of Ephesus did try and censure those that called themselves Iewes Revel 2 2 but Christ giveth the praise of this to the whole Church of Ephesus who had the power of censures But it may be said Ascandalous person may infect two Congregations of two neighbouring Presbyteries he dwelling neere the borders of both Ergo if he be to be excommunicated not by a Congregation onely but by the Presbytery because ●e may leaven many consociated Churches this man is not to be excommunicated except you tell two Presbyteriall Churches and so a whole Province and if he dwell in the borders of two Nations betwixt England Scotland he may leaven two parts of two Nationall Churches and if the matter concerneth both the Nationall Churches a higher Church then a Presbytery to wit a Church made up of two Presbyteries yea of parts of two Presbyteries of two Nations must by divine institution be that Church compleat and entire to which we must complaine and which hath the power of excommunication Answ. It is certaine as the locall limits of a Congregation and the number is not properly of divine institution onely a convenient number there must be to make up a Congregation and suppose a man do dwell in the borders of two Congregations where he is equally distant from the place of meeting of these two Congregations it is not of divine institution whether he be a member of the one or the other yet where his parents did willingly associate themselves to such a Congregation or he himselfe did associate himselfe and where he received Baptisme he hath now a relation to that Church as a member thereof and that Pastor is his Pastor not any other as the Elders of the Church of Ephesus suppose it were one single Congregation and the Angell of Ephesus is not the Angell of Thyatira the Angell of Pergamus is not to be called the Angell of Sard●s So i● the matter in a Presbytery or two Presbyteries of two distinct Nations I meane now a classicall Presbytery therefore these doe make Presbyteries 1. A convenient number of Churches may be governed by one Colledge or society of Elders 2. Having ordinary conversing one with another 3. Voluntarily upon these two grounds combining themselves in one society and upon these three the supervenient institution of Christ is grounded And therefore though it be true that one dwelling in the borders of two Congregations of two classicall Presbyteries of two Nations may equally infect other and so ex natura rei and in reality of truth he may leaven both yet the God of order having made him a combined member now by institution of one Presbyteriall Church not of the other he is to be excommunicated by the one not by the other For though locall distinction of Congregations and Presbyteries bee not of divine institution yet supposing consideration be had to first a competent number which may be edified secondly to ordinary conversing thirdly to voluntary combination either formall as at the first molding of Congregations and Presbyteries or tacit and vertuall combination as in after tracts of time Gods institution maketh a relation of a particular membership of this man so to this Congregation or Presbyterie as that now upon their foresaid suppositions though he may leaven the neighbouring Presbyteries or Congregations no lesse then those whereof he is a member yet may he be censured by those and none others now in respect of Christs ordinance applied to this Presbyteriall Church in this place and in this Nation and not in this Object 13. If the Congregation may admonish and rebuke then may they excommunicate for you may not distinguish where the Law of God distinguisheth not for there is no reason why this or this exercise of jurisdiction should be given them and not the exercise of all Answ. The Law clearly differenceth Matth. 18. I may rebuke and convince my brother with the consent of three witnesses which is some degree of Church-censure especially if a Pastor rebuke before three yet may not a Pastor excommunicate the Church doth that 2. We acknowledge that a Congregation may exercise all jurisdiction in re propria but excommunication where Churches are consociated is not a thing that is proper to a Congregation but concerneth many Obj. 14. We doe not thinke that the Church Math. 18. 16. is the community its alone nor the Elders there alone but the Elders in presence of the community For even Act. 15. when the Apostles and Elders did give out decrees they did it before the Church of Ierusalem and in their presence V. 22. Then pleased it the Apostles Elders and whole Church to send chosen men to Antioch For shew us a warrant in the Word where the Elders there alone did exercise jurisdiction the people not being convened and where such a company of Elders there alone is called a Church The Iudges in Israel judged in the gates before the people the Elders judged in or before the Church as the eye seeth united to the head not separated from it Answ. Nor doe we exclude these from hearing the Elders exercise jurisdiction if the
classicall under one externall and visible government even as the Elders of an independent Church are not Elders of their single Congregation being separated from their Court and extra coll●gium Presbyteriale in the notion of the relation of a Church-Jurisdiction for they are Elders by reason of Church Jurisdiction only in their Court 3. Classicall Elders in the Court have power of Jurisdiction in relation to this presbyteriall or classiciall Church but they have not properly an ordinary power of order to preach to them all and every one and to administrate the Sacraments to them The Elders of a particular Congregation have power of order and power of Jurisdiction without the Court but they have not power of Church jurisdiction but in the Court for there is a difference betwixt a power of jurisdiction which Elders have as Watchmen and a power of Church-Jurisdiction which Elders have not but in foro Ecclesiae in the Court of Church-Jurisdiction So the great Sanedrim beare rule over all the Tribes of Israel But this Judge of the Tribe of Dan a member of the Sanedrim is not a Judge of the Tribe of Benjamin or a Judge to a thousand of that Tribe as the Captaine of that thousand 2. I distinguish the proposition if the Elders of the Presbytery be Elders of the Presbyteriall Church then are they Elders in relation to the many Congregations in that Church if they bee Elders in these common affaires which concerne government in generall then are they Elders in feeding by the word of knowledge and in governing in all the particulars which concerne the government of each Congregation That I deny for their oversight in governing in things belonging to all the consociated Churches doth not make them Elders of all those particular Congregations 3. Deacons in some cases are also Deacons in relation to all the particular Churches in some reserved cases if all the Deacons of Macedonia Corinth and other Churches should meete in one and take course for supplying the distressed Saines at Jerusalem what inconvenient were in this Ob. 2. If Presbyteriall Elders be Elders to mary Congregations in a generall Relation what sort of Elders are they are they Elders ruling or are they Elders teaching it is unpossible that they can be Elders teaching to so many Congregations for teaching is a personall and incommunicable act that m●n cannot commit to any others they must performe it in their owne persons a●● cannot commit it to others if they be Ruling Elders onely and not teaching Elders this is against the Scripture for the exten of teaching and the extent of ruling are commexsurable in the Word and of alike extersion Acts 20. 28. These same whoe are to feede the fl●ck at Eph●sue are to governe and rul● and they are to feede the whole fl●ck● not a part of it so the Text sayth Take heede to the whole fl●cke then they are not to governe all in a presbytery and to feede with teaching the Word one particular Congregation onely so 1 Pe● 5. 2. feed the flock of God which is amongst you not with knowledge onely but be addeth their duty of governing Taking the oversight thereof not by constraint but willingly c. So H●b 13. 7. Remember them that have the rule over you who have spoken unto you the Word of God Ergo these same who have the rule over the flock and governe du also speake the Word of the Lord and teach v. 17. obey them that have the rule over you and submit to them for they watch for your soules as these who must give accompt Ergo these same who governe doe also as Pastors watch for the flock as those that are to give an accompt but the governing classicall Presbytery doe rule but it is unpossible that they can give an accompt for all the Congregations of a classicall Presbytery for they cannot watch over them all except every one of these must have many Eyes Nor can they be both ruling and teaching Officers for then they should have two Offices if one man be both a Physitian and a Chyrurgion to two severall companies he must have two Offices in relation to two charges which he hath to those two companies if he practise physick to the one company and chyrurgery to the other this is against the order that Paul Col. 2. rejoyced to behold Therefore the classicall Elders cannot be Rulers having the oversight of the whole c●●ssicall Church and yet every one of them must be a 〈◊〉 and teaching pastor only to the single Congregation over which 〈◊〉 Answ. As grand-Fathers and fathers doe beare a relation to these same Children divers wayes both are fathers and may tutor and provide for the children but both are not begetting ●athers so also doe the classicall Elders and the Elders of particular Congregations beare divers relations to the flocks the question then is what sort of Elders are the Presbyteriall Elders to the Presbyteriall Church I distinguish Church I distinguish Elders They are Elders classicall only to the classicall Church collectively taken and they have an authoritative care over this Church But they are proper Elders to the classicall Church taken distributively that is this man is an Elder to this part or member of the Presbytery to wit to this Congregation And another man to this Congregation as the Elders in the Court and Aslembly at Jerusalem Acts 15. they are Elders in relation to the whole Churches of Antioch Syria and Silicia and the Gentiles collectively taken in those dogmaticall poynts with the confession of our Brethren and these same Elders were in speciall manner Elders to the Congregations of Antioch Syria and Silicia and other Churches taken distributively so also the Elders of many consociated and Neighbouring Churches are speciall watchmen over their own fl●cks by teaching and ruling according to our Brethrens grounds and also they have a Brotherly care over all the consociated Church to Councell ●dmonrth Comfort seeing every man is his Brothers keeper by a Divine Law and the care is like as is it were authoritative onely by our Brethrens way it wanteth the relation of authority vet doth it not follow that Elders this way have two Offices but onely that they performe two acts of one and the same Office also a Pastor of an independent flocke who writcth ● B●●ke for the instruction of Sister-Churches as hee preache●● those same Sermons that are in the printed B●oke to his owne people and flocke hath two Relations one to his owne flocke whom hee preacheth unto as a Pastor another as an instructer of other Churches by his writings yet for that hee hath not two Offices as one who is a ' Physitian and a Chyrurgion to two sundry companies if any say hee writteth not Bookes as a Pastor by vertue of his Office but as a gifted man by power of fraternity let mee deny the truth of the distinction for this is to begge what is in question For to teach the Churches by writing should
either the power of good counseling in these two Churches or their good counsels but do much confirme and strengthen them Object 7. It is absurd that there should be a Church in a Church and two distinct kind of Churches or a power above a power a Jurisdiction above a Jurisdiction a State above a State as Master and Servant and Father and Sonne so there is here a governing and a commanding Classicall Presbytery and a governed and commanded Classicall Church and in a politicall consideration formally different now where there bee two different States there be two different names Titles and Adiuncts as 1 Cor. 12. 28. GOD hath set some in the Church first Apostles secondarily Prophets So it is said Genesis 1. GOD made two distinct Lights a greater Light to serve the Day and a lesser Light to rule the Night But the Scripture maketh no mention of greater or lesser Presbyteries wee have the name of Presbytery but twice in the New Testament and in matter they differ not for these same Elders are the matter of both in form they differ not for the same combination and union is in all they differ not in operations for the superior hath no operations but such as the inferior can exercise for because a Pastor exhort●th a Pastor comsorteth we doe not make two kindes of Pastors if wee cannot finde a distinction betwixt presbyter and Presbyter how can w●e 〈◊〉 a distinction betwixt Presbytery and Presbytery Hath the Wisdome of Christ left these Thrones in such a confusion as by Scripture they cannot be knowen by Name Title Nature Operations And if there be a power above a power wee have to a●end to a Nation and so to subdite a whole Nation and their consciences to this Government and we are to put a Kingdome within a Kingdom Answ. A Church-Congregationall within a Church-Classicall is no more inconventent then a part in the whole an Hand in the Body and that is a lesser body in a greater and our Brethren call the people a Church and the Elders the Elders of the Church and what is this but a Church in a Church 2. A power above a power is not absurd ex●ept it be a Church-power so above a Church-power as the Superior power be privative and destructive to the inferior as the Popes power distroyeth the power of the Chu●ch Universall and the prelates power destroyeth the power of the 〈◊〉 where of he is pretended Pastor But the power of the presbytery is A●xiliarte and cumulative to helpe the Congregation not privative and destructive to destroy the power of congregations Secondly a power above a power in the Church cannot be denied by our Brethren for 1. In the Eldership of a ●●●gle Congregation the Eldership in the Court hath a power of Jurisdiction above a power of order which one single Minister hath to preach the Word and administrate the Sacraments for they may regulate the Pastor and censure him if he preach hereticall Doctrine is not this a power above a power yea two Elders in the Court have a power of Jurisdiction to governe with the whole prebsytery but the power of the whole presbytery is above the power of a part But to com● neerer The Apostles and Elders at Ierusalem met in a Synod have a power in dogmaticall poynts over the Church at Antioch and others and our Brethren say that the Church at Antioch might have in their inferiour Synod determined these same poynts which the Synod determined at Ierusalem her 's power above power Thirdly we doe not see how they be two or divers indicatures formally and specisically different in nature and operations for they differ onely in more or lesse extension of power as the reasons doe prove as the power of government in one City or Borough doth not differ formally from the power of the whole Cities and Boroughs incorporated and combined in one common Judicature and the power of two or three or foure Colledges doth not differ from the power of the whole combination of Colledges combined in the comm on Judicature of the Universities so here the powers of the inferior Judicatures do differ from the Superior onely in degree and in number of members of the Judicatures the policy divine is one and the same though the Superior can exercise acts of Jurisdiction different from the Acts of the inferior in an ordinary way such as are ordination of Pastors and excommunication where many Churches are consociated though where this consociation is not Ordination and Excommunication may be done by one single Congregation also to argue from the not distinction of Names Titles and Adjuncts of the Iudicatures is but a weake Argument because Congregationall and presbyterian provinciall and a nationall Church-Body make all one body and the inferior is but a part and member of the Superior and thefore it was not needfull that as Apostles and Prophets and the Sun the greater light by name and Office is distinguished from the Moone Gen. 1. the lesser light that Congregation and Presbyter should be distinguished by Names and Office and Titles in the Scripture for a Prophet is not formally a part of an Apostle but an Officer formally different from him and the Moone is not a part of the Sun as a Congregation is a part of the Classicall Church so Mat. 18. the Scripture distinguisheth not the people and Elders in the word Ecclesia Church as our Brethren will have then both meant in that place Mat. 18. Teil the Church Now we say as they doe to us in the like we are not to distinguish where the Law doth not distinguish But the Scripture sayth Mat. 18. The Church that the offended hath recourse unto is that Church which must be obeyed as a Judicature and spirituall Court but the people is neither a Judicature nor any part thereof And 2. Of that Church Christ doth speake that doth actually bind on Earth and loose on Earth and that by the power of the Keyes but the people neither as a part of the Court doth actually bind and loose on Earth by power of the Keyes 3. Christ speaketh of that Court and of that Church which doth exercise Church-power on Earth under the title of binding and loosing but we find not a Church in the face and presence of the people binding and loosing under the name of the Church in the Word of God Shall we use such an insolent signification of the word Church as the Word of God doth not use and Lastly I say of these of Corinth gathered together convened together in the Name of the Lord Jesus with the Ministeriall spirit of Paul and with the power of the Lord Iesus these cannot be the Church excommunicating before the people The Text destinguisheth not the Court of Elders who hath the power of Jurisdiction from the people and all these to whom he writeth and who were puffed up and mourned not for the scandall have no such power of Jurisdiction nor can the
There be many things in this argument to be corrected as 1. That the Church of Corinth conve●ed in the whole multitude whom it concerned for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 doth not prove it for the same Word is spoken of the meeting of the Apostles and Elders who met in a Synod with authority Acts 15. 6. the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is attributed to the multitude Acts 21. v. 22. and to the Church of Believers 1 Cor. 11. 20. and 1 Cor. 14. 23. therefore the one word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 seemeth to bee no cogent Argument 2. The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is not here in all this Chapter or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is used in the New Testament and by the seventy Interpreters whose translation Christ and his Apostles doe frequently follow in the New Testament use the words for any meeting of good or ill of civill or Ecclesiasticall persons As I might instance is a great many places of the Old and New Testament then what is it I pray you which restricteth the signification of these words to signifie a civill rather then an Ecclesiasticall meeting certainly the actions which the company doth when they are met and the end for which they meete I give an instance in Acts 19. 41. the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the like I say of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth not the Church of Christ and why it is a reason that cannot bee controlled They were assembled for to raise a tumult against Paul which was no Church-action and so no Church end is here So v. 39. But if you enquire any thing in other matters it shall be determined 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in a lawfull assembly surely the end of such an assembly in Ephesus where this man was Town-Clark in the meeting could be no Church-businesse Hence wee are led to know what 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 an Assembly or Church signifieth here not the Church of Christ so Psal. 22. 16. the Assembly of the wicked hath inclosed mee 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Merighem the seventy Interpreters turne it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and T●rtullian followeth them the persons congregated the actions and end for which they convenc lead us to this that the Word signifieth not a Church of Christ. So wee may see Psal. 26. 5. the Congregation of Elders cannot bee a true Church 2. 1 Cor. 11. 18. for first when you come together to the Church 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I heare there are divisions amongst you The place must signifie the Church of Believers because the end of their meeting was the Supper of the Lord or their communion v. 20. as the Text cleareth and 1 Cor. 14. 23. when the whole Church commeth together that was for prophecying and hearing of the Word as the Text is evident v. 16 17 18 23 24 25 26 27. and therefore here the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 must signifie the Church of Pastors preaching and people hearing the Word praying and praising God So in the third place when 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Church is convened to bind and loose and to excommunicate as Mat. 18. 17. 18. 19. there is no necessity that the Word Church should include those who have no power of the keyes and cannot by power of the Keyes bind and loose And therefore from the naked and meere Grammar of the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 no argument can bee drawen to prove that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Matth. 18. 17. must signifie that same which it doth signifie 1 Corin. 1. 1. 1 Corin. 11. 18. 1 Corin. 14. 23. for the word actu primo and originally signifieth any meeting but the persons who are Congregated and the end for which they meete leadeth us to the meaning and Grammaticall sense of the word in that place Now Matth. 18. the Ecclesia a Church Congregated there is such as bindeth and looseth in Heaven and Earth and congregated for that use therefore I see not how the circumstances of the place helping us to the Grammaticall sense of the word here as in all other places doth not inforce us to say in this place Mat. 18. the word Ecclesia Church must signifie onely those who have power to bind and loose that is only the Elders and not the people So to come to the place 1 Cor. 5. Those who come under the name of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 congregated together must bee expounded by the persons Office and the end of their meeting now the persons Office is Ministeriall hee will have them congregated by Pauls Ministeriall spirit and in the name and with the power of the Lord Jesus this is the power of the Keyes which hee who hath Davids Keyes Esai 22. 22. on his Shoulders Revel 3. 7. giveth to his owne Officers Matth. 16. 19. and these persons cannot be all that hee writeth unto v. 1. all that were p●ffed up and mourned not at the offence given by the incestuous 〈◊〉 to Iesus Christs holy Nam● and Church all who are to forbeare eating and drinking with excommunicated persons vers 11. all who were in danger to be leavened vers 6. all who were to keepe the Feast in sincerity not with the old Leaven of wickednesse and malice for these directly were the whole multitude of Believers Men Women and Children who I am sure were not capable of the Keyes and the Ministeriall power of Paul 2. The end wherefore these 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 who were convened did meete and convene was vers 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to deliver the man to Satan they were not convened to celebrate the Lords Supper as the Church is convened 1 Cor. 11. 18. nor for hearing the Word of Prophecy or Preaching as 1 Cor. 14. 23 24. And whether you construe the Words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 with the Power of the Lord Iesus with the Verbe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to deliver to Satan or with the Participle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 congregated in the Name and Power of CHRIST all is one the multitude of common Believers of Men Women and Children are neither capable of the power nor of the exercise of that power to deliver to Satan And therefore this meeting together by no Grammar doth leade us to say that the sentence was to be pronounced in face and presence of the multitude convened vers 21. Giving but not granting that the Church of Corinth in all its members must bee convened Though I hold it not necessary by this place yet it followeth not that all other acts of Jurisdiction must bee exercised in face of the whole Congregation for there is a speciall reason of the pronouncing of the sentence which is not in other acts the pronouncing of the sentence concerneth more the neerest Congregation of which the Delinquent is a member in relation of nearest and dayly Communion it concerneth also other Congregations of the Classicall Church of which also the Delinquent is a member but not so immediately and
Elders as well as the Apostles convened to consider about this matter and Act. 21. 18. 25. All the Elders of Jerusalem with James take on them these acts as well as the Apostles and they are the decrees of the Elders no lesse then of the Apostles Act. 16. ● 4. a derivation of the immediate impi●ing Spirit to ●●● Elders and by them as fellow-members of the Synod to the Apostles and a derivation of this immediat Apostolick spirit by the Apostles to the Elders to make them also infallible is unknowne to Scripture for one Prophet did not immediatly inspire another and one Apostle did not immediatly inspire another wee read not in the Word of any such thing and therefore it is said Act. 15. 7. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And when there had beene much disputing Peter s●●d up All who interpret this place say even Papists not ex●pted as Salmero com in 〈◊〉 Salmeron L●●mus ● Lorinus Cornelius a lapt Cornelius a lapide and others on the place that when there is not consultation and disputing on both sides to find out the truth but an absolute authoritie used by commanding the proceeding of the counceil is rash saith Salmeron now the Prophets were immediatly inspired without any consultation with men in delivering Gods will and they saw the visions of God as it is said And the Word of the Lord came to Jeremiah to Ezechiel to Hosea c. and bee said c. yea when a propheticall spirit came upon Ba●●m Num. 24. bee seeing the visions of God hee prophecied directly contrary to his owne carnall mind and to his consultation with Bal●●k now it is cleare that the Apostles what they spake by the breathings and inspirations of that immediatly inspiring Spirit is no lesse cannonick Scripture then the prophecies of the immediatly inspired Prophets who saw the visions of God and therefore 2 Pet. 1. 16 17 18 the voyce that the Apostles heard from heaven This is my beloved Sonn● in whom I am well pleased is made equall with the word of proph●cie and propheticall Scripture which the holy men of God spale ● they were moved by the holy Ghost v. 19 20 21. and 2 Pet. 3. 16. Pauls Epistles are put in the classe with other Scriptures v. 15 16. now all Scripture 2 Tim. 3. 16. is given by divine inspiration and 2 Peter 3. 2. puteth the words of the Prophets and Apostles in the same place of divine authority 2 Pet. 3. 2. That yee bee mindfull of the words which were spoken before by the holy Prophets and of the commandements of us the Apostles of the Lord and Saviour whence to mee this synodicall consultation is not Apostolicall but such as is obligatory of the Churches to the end of the world and a patterne of a generall Synod 6. This assembly is led by the holy Spirit as is cleare v. 25. 28. but this is not the holy Spirit immediatly inspiring the Apostles as Apostles but that ordinary Synodicall spirit to borrow that expression that is promised to all the faithfull pastors and rulers of the Church to the end of the world because the immediatly inspiring spirit comming on Prophets and Apostles in an immediate inspiration did necessitate the Prophets and Apostles to acquiesce and prophesie and to doe and speake whatsoever this spirit inspired them to doe and to speake but this spirit spoken of v. 28. doth not so but leaveth the assembly to a greater libertie because the assembly doth not acquiesce to that which Peter saith from Gods Word v. 7 8 9 10 11. nor doth the Assembly acquiesce to what Barnabas and Paul saith v. 12. but onely to that which James saith v. 13 14 15 16 17 18. but especially to his conclusion which hee draweth from the Law of nature not to give scandall and from the Scriptures cited by himselfe and by Peter v. 19 20. Wherefore my sentence is saith James c. and this clearely is the sentence of James as a member of the Synod v. 19. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is an expression clearly insinuating that the judgement of James though it was not contrary to that which Peter Paul and Barnabas had spoken yet that is was somewhat diverse from them and more particular and the very mind of the holy Ghost which the whole Synod followed and therefore though Peter and Paul spake truth yet did they not speake that truth which did compose the controversie and this is to mee an argument that they all spake as members of the Synod and not as Apostles 7. The immediatly inspired Apostolick Spirit though it may discourse and inferre a conclusion from such and such premisses as Paul doth Rom. 3. 28. and hee proveth from the Scripture Rom. 4. 4. 5. 6. that wee are justified by saith without workes and 1 Tim. 5. 17. 18. and Act. 9. 22. Act. 24. 14. 17. and so doth Christ reason and argument from Scripture Matth. 22. 31. Luk. 24. 25 26 27. and so have both the Prophets and Apostles argued yet the immediatly inspired Spirit of God in arguing doth not take helpe by disputing one with another and yet doth not obtaine the conclusion in hand but here Pe●●● and Paul argue from Scripture and they prove indeed a true conclusion that the Gentiles should not keepe Moses his Law as they would bee saved yet they did not remove the question nor satisfic the consciences of the Churches in their present practise for if James had not said more then the Churches had not beene sufficiently directed in their practise by the Synod and for all that Peter and Paul said the Churches might have ea●●n meates offered to Idols and blood and things strangled which at that time had been a sin against the Law of nature and a great stumbling block and a scandalizing of the Jewes Except therefore wee say that the Apostles intending as Apostles to determine a controversie in the Church they did not determine it which is an injury to that immediatly inspiring spirit that led the Apostles in penning Scripture wee must say that Peter Paul and James here spake as members of an eccle●iasticall Synod for the Churches after-imitation 8. If the Apostles here as Apostles give out this decree then it would seeme that as Apostles by virtue of the immediatly inspiring spirit they sent messengers to the Churches for one spirit directeth all and by this Text wee should have no warrant from the Apostles practise to send messengers to satisfie the consciences of the Churches when they should bee troubled with such questions now all our Divines and reason doth evince that a Synod may by this Text send messengers to resolve doubting Churches in points dogmaticall for what the Apostles doe as Apostles by that power by which they writ canonick Scripture in that wee have no warrant to imitate them 9. I propounded another argument before which prevaileth much with mee The Elders of an ordinary Presbytery and Churches such as conveened at this Synod cannot be
nor natures light doth warrant us to unjust appeales or to any thing against equitie and reason but that supremacy of power should bee in a Congregation without any power of appealing I thinke our brethren cannot teach for when the Church of Antioch cannot judge a matter concerning the necessitie of keeping Moses his Law or any difficill dogmaticall point they by natures direction Act. 15. 2. decree to send Pau ' Barnabas and others to Jerusalem to the Apostles and Elders as to a higher judicature that their truth may bee determined and this they did without any positive law that wee can imagine for Mr. Mather and Mr. Thomson as also the Author of the Church government of New England teach that the Church of Antioch had jus power to judge and determine the controversie but because of the difficultie had not light ●o judge thereof Ergo they must acknowledge appeales by natures light warrantable as well as wee for suppose wee that a Congregation inclineth to this that Arminianisme is the sound doctrine of grace opposite to Stoicisme one man is cited before the Congregation for holding the contrary hee knoweth all the Congregation in those points to be Pelagians would not our brethren say that this man so unjustly accused for holding the truth against the enemies of grace may appeale to a Synod I thinke they must teach this by their grounds though by the way I thinke the brethren erre in this to teach that Antioch had power to determine the controversie Act. 15. in this case 1. when the Churches of Syria and Cilicia to their knowledge were troubled with the like question as v. 24. may cleare 2. when as the partie against the truth was so prevalent within the Church of Antioch Act. 15. 2. as that they opposed the Apostle Pau ' and Barnabas also in this case I doubt much if they had power to determine a question that so much concerned all the Churches for that was proper to a Synod of many Churches 2. When the greatest part of a Church as Antioch is against the truth as is cleare Act. 15. 2. I beleeve in that they lose their jus their right to determine ea●enus in so farre for Christ hath given no ecclesiasticall right and power to determine against the truth but onely for the truth and therefore in this appeales must bee necessary Mr. Mather and Mr. Thomson against Herle c. 2. p. 17. 18. say we do much Judaizein that we multiply appeales upon appeales from the Congregation to a Classe then to a Synod then to a nationall assembly then to an ●eckmenick councell and this way while the world indureth causes are never determined and Synods cannot alwayes bee had even as in Jerusalem the supreme judicature was farre remote from all proselytes as from the Eunuch of Aethiopia Act. 8. and from the remotest parts of the holy Land But God hath provided better for us in the New Testament where every Congregation which is at hand may decide the controversie Answ. 1. The speedinesse of ending controversies in a congregation is badly compensed with the suddainnesse and temerity of delivering men to Satan upon the decision of three Elders without so much as asking advise of any classes of Elders and with deciding questions deepe and grave that concerneth many Churches which is a putting a private sickle in a common and publick harvest 2. All appeales without just warrant from Christs will wee condemne as the abuse of appeales to a court which is knowne shall never bee 3. Antiochs appeale to a Synod two hundreth miles distant as our brethren say in so weighty a question was no Judaizing but that which Paul and the Apostles was guiltie of as well as wee 4. Matters concerning many Churches must bee handled by many The Doctrine of the Presbyteriall Churches of Jerusalem Corinth Ephesus Antioch vindicated VVEe are convinced from the numerous multitude of beleevers and the multitude of Pastors at this famous and mother Church of the Christians at Jerusalem to beleeve the frame and mould was presbyteriall and that it cannot bee so much as imagined or dreamed that it was moulded to the patterne of one single Congregation which could all meet 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 into one place The frame of an independent single Congregation is such as no more doe meet ordinarily in one house then may conveniently bee edified in partaking of one Word and one breaking of bread that is one Table at the Supper of the Lord nor can wee imagine that the first mould of a Christian visible Church was so inconvenient as that it crossed edification and conversion which is the formall effect of a Church-meeting Now the multitude was such as could not neither morally nor physically meet in one house For at one Table many thousands and multiplied thousands could not meer and therefore consider their number they were Act. 1. a hundreth and twentie met in one place but I shall not bee of the opinion that this was all seeing 1 Cor. 15. 6. Christ after his resurrection was seene of Cephas then of the twelve after that hee was seene of above five hundreth brethren then in one day at one Sermon about three thousand soules Act. 2. 42. and ch 4. 4. though they were apprehended who preached the Gospell yet many of them which heard the Word beleeved and the number of the men was about five thousand I deny not but worthy Calvin saith id potius de tota ecclesia quam de nova accessione intelligendum this was the whole number including the three thousand that were converted c. 2. but first hee saith Potius hee inclineth rather to this opinion but secondly the Text saith of those which heard the word it would seeme to mee at the second Sermon of Peter and Augustine Chrysostome Bed● Basilius Oecumenius Hieronym Ireneus make this number divers from the former so doe Cornelius a Lap. Salmeron Stapletonus l Sanctius Lorinus Lyranus Cajetanus but we shall not contend about the matter nor yet whether the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 includeth women which it often doth in the Greek as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Demosthenes doth also yet the wisdome of God in the Apostles cannot admit us to imagine that five thousand could ordinarily meet to the Word Sacraments and government in one house and after this many thousands were added to this Church 1. Our brethren say it is one thing to say that they could not meet in one place by reason of extrinsecall impediments of persecution and through want of a capacious and large roome and another thing to say that it was unpossible that they could bee one Congregation and meet in one place for though wee prove they could not meet because of persecution wee doe not prove that they were so numerous that they could not conveniently meet in one place Answ. Though it bee
the supper at night and after Supper 1 C●r 11. 21. few thousands should bee able to communicate after Supper 2. There was no necessitie that these wise master-builders should divide the Church and the first visible Church in so many parts and this successive communion doth clearely prove our point that there were many Congregations for every successive fraction being a competent convention of beleevers having the Word and Sacraments and so power of jurisdiction not to admit all promiscuously to the Lords Table is to our brethren a compleat Church for to it indeed agreeth the essentiall Characters of a visible instituted Church for there is here a ministery the Word and Sacraments and some power of jurisdiction within it selfe and so what lacketh this successive fraction of an intire Congregation But what ground for so needlesse a conjecture that the Apostolick Church did celebrate the Lords Supper in the Temple never in private houses The contrary is Act. 20. 7. And upon the first day of the weeke the Disciples came together to breake bread Paul preached unto them v. 8. And there were many lights in an upper Chamber where they were conveened so the Text is cleare the first day of the weeke 1 Cor. 16. 1. was the day of the Christians publick worship and Augustine Calvin Lu●her Melancthon Bullinger Diodatus and so Lorinus and Sanchius say this was the Lords Supper who can imagine that the Apostles did bring so many thousand Christians after Supper to the Temple to celebrate a new Evangelick feast and that immediatly after Peters first Sermon Act. 2. 42 1. Before the Apostles had informed the Jewes that all their typicall and ceremoniall feasts were now abolished yea while they stood in vigor and the Apostles themselves kept them in a great part was this like the Spirit of the Gospel which did beare with Moses his ceremonies for fortie yeares 2. The Apostles Act. 4. 1. are indited before the Synedry that they taught in the Temple Jesus Christ if they had with so many thousands gone to the Temple with a new extraordinary ceremoniall ordinance as a new Sacrament so contrary in humane reason to all the sacred Feasts Sacrifices and ceremonies should not this with the first have beene put in their inditement that they were shouldering Moses out of the Temple yet are they onely accused for teaching the people yea Christ the Law-giver who preached the Gospell daily in the Temple would not take the last Supper to the Temple but celebrated it in a private Chamber and Paul being accused alwayes as an enemy to Moses and the Temple his enemies the Jewes who watched him heedfully could never put on him that hee celebrated a Sacrament in the Temple as for Baptisme it being a sort of washing whereof the Pharisees used many Matth. 15. Mark 7. it was performed often sub di● in rivers never in the Temple wee desire any author father Ocecumenius doubteth onely Doctor Divine Protestant or Papist late or old who said the Apostles celebrated the Supper in the Temple 3. Our brethren say all These did conve●ne 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for Act. 4. 31. When they had prayed the place was shaken where they were assembled together 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Act. 2. 46. and they continued daily with one accord in the Temple and breaking bread from house to house did eate their meat with gladnesse Answ. The place Act. 4. 31. saith not that all the five thousand beleevers were in that one place which was shaken for v. 21. that when the Apostles were let goe by the Priests and Captaines of the Temple they returned to their owne company 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to their owne but no circumstance in the Text doth inferre that they came backe to the whole five thousand but onely to some few of the first beleevers that were converted before the first Sermon of Peter was made cap. 2 they returned Lyra and Hugo Cardinalis to their owne company ad domesticos suos and so saith Lorinus who citeth the Syriack 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hachaiehin ad fratres suos Salmeron ad suos ●apostolos sive condiscipulos domesticos fidei and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 doth not signifie the whole Church but friends and domesticks as Mark 5. 19. Goe home to thy own house and shew thy friends Luke 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 compared with Luk. 8. 39. and Gal. 6. 10 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 1 Tim. 5. 8. therefore the place saith that the five thousand were gathered together in this one place which was shaken 2. Giving and not granting that they were all conveened to prayer it doth not follow that they did meet ordinarily in one place for partaking of Word and Sacraments as one Congregation for ●oe might conveene to prayer and hearing the Word then could meet ordinarily in a Congregationall-way Neither will any Text inforce us to expone 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 collectively but distributively as wee say all the Congregations in Scotland met 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in one every Lords day that is every one of the Congregations is in one place but the sense is not that all the Congregations collectively are in one place And wee may justly aske what this place was which was shaken it is not like that it was the Temple that which should have beene more prodigious like and presaged a ruine to the Temple would not have beene concealo● by the holy Ghost for it would have more terrified the Jewes and the Temple is never called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 sine adjecto without some other thing to make it bee knowne to bee the holy place if it was a private house give us leave to say it could not containe five thousand to heare prayer farre lesse a more numerous multitude Wee re●it it to the judgement of the wise if the Apostles were so lazie to propagate the Gospell that where twelve of them were present undoubtedly Act. 4. 23 31. Act. 6. 2. and as many of the learned thinke the seventie Disciples that eleven Apostles did heare the Word onely and one did speake to one Congregation onely which consisted of so many thousands for to the five thousand if there were no moe c. 5. 14. mere beleevers were added to the Lord multitudes both of men and women who could not conveniently heare This I thinke not imaginable for 1. now the harvest was large thousands were to bee converted 2. The Spirit was now powred upon all flesh 3. Christ when hee sent the tw●lve but to Jude● hee sent them two and two and would have every man at worke and the Apostles went out in twoes Act. 13. Paul and B●rna●as and sometimes but one Peter was sent to the Jewes Paul to the Gentiles and the world divided amongst them 1. of other officers Timothy is sent to Ephesus Titus to Crete that so they might the more swiftly spread the Gospell to all the world What wisedome could wee
to Jerusalem by revelation as Paul did Gal. 1. Ergo all their acts that they did there they did them by immediate revelation Answ. The consequence is null Paul went by revelation up to Jerusalem and there Gal. 2. hee rebuked Peter as an Apostle no as a Brother for then Paul should have exercised Apostolick Authority over Peter which is popish Object 3. If the Apostles did act as Presbyters here they did wrong the particular Churches and took their Liberty from them in exercising ordinary Ministeriall acts there which are proper to that Church Answ. It followeth upon the denyed principles of an independent Congregation onely for a Church without Elders hath no Presbyteriall power and therefore such a power can not bee taken from it you cannot take from a Church that which by Law it hath not If the Acts of the government in the Apostles are according to the substance of the Acts all one with the Acts of government in the ordinary presbytery Ergo say I those Acts come not from an Apostolicall and extraordinary power even as the Apostles preaching and baptizing are not different in nature and essence from the Acts of preaching and baptizing in ordinary Pastors though they had power to preach and baptize every where and wee onely where wee have an ordinary calling of the Church and from the Apostles preaching and baptizing every where wee may inferre it is lawfull for the ordinary Elders their successors to preach and baptize in some place why may we not inferre because the Apostles in collegio in one presbytery did ordaine ordinary officers that we have thence a patterne for an ordinary presbytery Object 4. If there were no institution for preaching and baptizing but onely the Apostles naked practise we were not warrantably to preach and baptize from the sole and naked example of the Apostles Answ. Shew us an institution for preaching and baptizing then for that which we alledge is an institution Matth. 28. 19 20. Mark 14. v. 15. to you is a commandement given to the Apostles as Apostles as you said in the 1. objection proponed by you and therefore we have no more warrant to preach and baptize from the Apostles example then we have to work miracles and because by the same reason of yours Christs command to his Apostles to preach before his death Matth. 10. is not ordinary presbyteriall preaching but conjoyned also with the power of casting out devills Matth. 10. 1 2 3. it must also upon the same ground bee a Commandement given to the Apostles not as ordinary Pastors but as Apostles if we compare Matth. 10. 1 2 3. with Mark 16. 15 16 17 18. If you flee to John Baptist his practise of baptisme 1. you are farther off then you were 2. What warrant more that John Baptist his practise should warrant preaching and baptizing if it want an institution then the Apostles preaching and baptizing when it is separated from an institution 2. This argument pincheth you as much as us for a thousand times in your bookes a warrant for our ordinary Elders to preach and baptize is fetched from the sole practise of the Apostles 3. By this the argument for the Christian Salbath from the Apostles observing that day shall also fall 4. This also shall make us loose in fundamentalls of Church government which are grounded upon the Apostles practise 5. The Apostles had no Apostolick and extraordinary ground which moved them to preach and baptize according to the substance of the Acts for they did preach and baptize upon these morall and perpetuall motives and grounds which doe obliege ordinary Elders to preach and baptize even to Christs second comming Ergo their very practise not considered with the institution is our patterne and rule It is as evident that there was a Presbyteriall Church at Ierusalem after the dispersion seeing the dispersion as we have proved did not re●rench them to one Congregation because our Brethren doe conclude from a company of Elders of the Church of Ephesus Acts 20. of Ierusalem from the Angell of the Church of pergamus of Thyatira a formall ordinary Presbytery of Ephesus of Ierusalem of Thyatira Let us have the favour of the same argument upon the supposall of many Congregations which the word doth warrant and upon the supposall that it is called one Church alwayes as Acts 2. 47. The Lord added to the Church Acts 5. 11. feare came upon all the Church Acts 8. 1. there arose a great persecution against the Church Acts 12. 1. Herod stretched forth his hand to vex certaine of the Church v. 5. prayer was made without ceasing of the Church unto God Acts 15. 4. and when they were come to Jerusalem they were received of the Church and of the Apostles and Elders Acts. 21. 15. Paul went up to Jerusalem and v. 18. The day following Paul went in with us into James and all the Elders were present Here be Elders of the Church of Ierusalem and Ierusalem is named one Church frequently and alwayes before and after the dispersion it is called a Church in the singular number not onely in relation to persecuters but also in relation to government and because they were a politicall society to which there were many added Acts 2. 47. and which hath Elders Acts 15. 4. Acts 21. 15. 18. And a Church-union in a constituted body hearing the Word and receiving the Sacraments as this Church did Acts 2. 42. is not a Church but in regard of Church-policy and Church-government They reply That enemies doe persecute the Church Acts 8. 1. Acts 12. 1. Acts 8. 3. Saul made havock of the Church that is of the faithfull of the Church for Saul had no regard in his persecution to a Church in their government or Church combination therefore the enemies are said to persecute the Church materially I answer this objection I tooke off before But 2. Principally the enemies persecuted the Church under the notion of ● Society politicall holding forth in a visible Church-profession their faith in Christ and that by hearing receiving the Seales and subjecting themselves in a visible way obvious to the Eye of all to the government of the Christian Church Yea the enemies had no better character to discerne them to be Saints and so worthy of their malice then Church-characters of a Church-profession But 2. Whereas the Holy Ghost giveth the name of one Church to the Church of Ierusalem all constantly speaking of it both as a Church and in relation to persecuters and that every way in that notion as our Brethren say that the Scripture speaketh of their own Corgregationall Church wee have the same reason to call it one Church because of one government for the question is not now if it bee many Congregations but it it bee one Church Object 2. They are called the Elders at Jerusalem not the Elders of the Church of Jerusalem Ergo from this it is not concluded that they were one Church Answ. Acts 16. 4.
they are called Apostles and Elders in or at Ierusalem Acts 16. 4. for another cause these were Elders from other Churches from Antioch no lesse then Elders of Ierusalem they onely sate in Synod at Ierusalem 2. All Ierusalem was not converted to the Christian Faith and therefore they may well bee tearmed Elders at Ierusalem as the Church at Ephesus at or in Thyatira 3. I deny that the Scripture speaketh any other wayes of the Elders of the Church of Ierusalem then of the Elders of other Churches 2. Those Elders ought to meete for the governing of the Church of Jerusalem for this was their duty Ergo they were one Presbytery 2. They did meet Acts 15. 14. to receive Paul and Barnabas and to heare what God had done by them for their edification and Acts 21. Paul goeth to Ierusalem and is received v. 15. by the Brethren but the next day v. 18. The day following Paul went in with us unto James and all the Elders were present and there the Elders doe presbyterially act for the removing of a Church-scandall v. 21. The believing Jewes were informed that Paul taught all the Iewes which were amongst the Gentiles to forsake Moses This was a publick scandall 2. The offended multitude were to convene v. 22. as plaintiffs 3. The Eldership ordaineth Paul to remove the scandall by satisfying the offended by purifying himselfe after the manner of the Jewes and it is cleare Paul should not have satisfyed the scandalized Iewes except Iames and the Elders had injoyned him so to doe 4. This the very course of a presbytery yea our Brethrens doctrine which a Congregationall presbytery would and doth take with any other person who doth give offence yea though it be taken and not given if the way of remedy be lawfull and expedient as this presbytery conceived Pauls purifying of himselfe to be and if any scandalizing person should be disobedient to the voyce of a Congregationall eldership such as our Brethren believe the Eldership of Jerusalem to be they would say they are to censure him and therefore if Paul should have beene disobedient to this he should have incurred a censure It is true Lorinus saith that Chrysostome and Oecumenius will have this to be a Counsell not a Synod to command Paul and they deny any Juridicall power here but v. 18. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to mee it is They were gathered together Diodatus calleth them The colledge of the governours of the Church Beda saith there were foure Synods and hee maketh the Synod Acts 1. at the chusing of Matthias the first the second at the chusing of Deacons Acts 6. the third Acts 15. and this the fourth Acts 21. 2. The Text seemeth to mee to say it for as Acts 15. there was course taken for the Gentiles that they should abstaine from blood lest they should either scandalize or bee scandalized so the Eldership here taketh course that the infirme Iewes be not scandalized as is cleare v. 25. As touching the Gentiles which believe we have written c. and to me they seeme to do both Synodically some thinke that this fact of the Elders and Paul was not lawfull but how ever though it was not a generall councell a presbytery I take it to be taking course to remove a scandall from the weake Iewes in this place as they had by a Synodicall power removed it from the Gentiles Act. 15. It is objected by Master Mather that if a Church in an Island by Divine institution and so this first founded congregation at Jerusalem which did meete in Salomons porch had once an entire power of Iurisdiction within it selfe though in an extraordinary case 1. The case is ordinary as in the Dominion of Wales there is scarce a congregation to be found within twenty or thirty miles 2. Suppose the case were extraordinary and rare may they violate the ordinary rules of Christ for so some may thinke and say that though according to ordinary Rules Baptisms and the Lords Supper must be dispensed only by men and by Ministers yet in the want of these the one may be dispensed by a Woman or Mid-wife and both of them by such as are no Ministers Answ. We thinke a Ministery and Discipline more necessary to a Congregation in a remote Island or to the Church of Ierusalem before they increase to such a number as cannot meet for their numerous multitude in one Congregation then the Sacraments when there be no Ministers to dispense them 1. That the Church be so in the Island its alone may possibly be extraordinary but that in such a case they have the Word preached and entire power of Discipline whole and entire within themselves to excommunicate scandalous persons is not extraordinay when there be no consociated Churches whom excommunication concerneth that are in danger to be scandalized for it floweth connaturally from a Church to which agreeth the essence of a Church to exercise Jurisdiction over all its owne members if there be no more consociated with that Church that is by accident and an extraordinary exigence of Gods providence As a master of a Family is to do his duty to educate his children in the feare of God but if God take all his children from him by death he doth not transgresse the ordinary rule of educating his children in the feare of God when hee hath none This argument supposeth that a Congregation hath no power of excommunication at all either compleat or incompleat as the Mid-wife hath no power to Baptize at all either compleat or incompleat neither doth a Congregation transgresse any rule of Christ at all when it exerciseth entire power of censures within it selfe whereas there be no consociated Churches to share with it in that power A Congregation is capable of entire Jurisdiction because it is a Church But a woman in no case is capable of administrating Baptisme or the Lords Supper except shee were extraordinarily and immediatly inspired to be a prophetesse but for the exercise of entire power of Jurisdicton by a Congregation in a r●mote Island I hope it hath no such need of immediate inspiration 2. There is no such morall necessity of the Sacraments as there is of the Ministery of the word and consequently of some use of the Keys where a scandalous person may infect the Lords flock For where vision ceaseth the people perish but it is never said where Baptisme ceaseth the people perish and therefore uncalled Ministers in case of necessity without ordination or calling from a presbytery may preach and take on them the holy Ministery and exercise power of Jurisdiction because the necessity of the Soules of a Congregation in a remote Island requireth so but I hope no necessity in any the most extraordinary case requireth that a Midwife may Baptize or that a private man remaining a private man may celebrate the Lords Supper to the Church without any calling from the Church But Mr. Mather if the power of Iurisdiction
prove the whole Church of beleevers had from Matth. 18. 17. 1 Cor. 5. 4. Act. 15. 22. 1 Cor. 14. 23. for my part I thinke such a miraculous Church cannot be the first mould of independent Churches to be established congregations meeting in one place for to be edified by word seales and censures Yea Mr. Mather will have the whole convening as one independent congregation Act. 6. 2 3 4. and the many myriades or thousands of beleeving Jewes Act. 21. 21 22 23. to meet as one congregation Certainly the Apostles practice must be our rule and then five hundred or a thousand being so farre beneath ten or eight thousand may wel seem a number for fewnesse not competent and what shall we then thinke of seven onely or ten Now let it be considered if Rome being granted to be one Church and in which to me there was a congregation and Church in the very family of Aquila and Priscilla Rom. 16. v. 5. and whose faith was spread through all the world Rom. 1. 8. so as famous writers say the halfe of the City beleeved if they be but one single congregation meeting all in one place ard to me it is cleare there was a single congregation in the very house of Aquila and Priscilla Act. 18. 1 2 3 4. v. 26 27 28. and that Paul preached when he was there daily beside his disputing in the Synagogue when he was at Rome there was a Church at his house Rom. 16. 5. So Diodati saith on the place That the Church at Aquila his house was the assembly of beleevers who assembled themselves in their house for there were divers small assemblies in one and the selfe same City 1 Cor. 16. 19. Col. 4. 15. Greet the Church that is at their house Col. 1. 15. Salute Nymphus and the Church at his house Where Paul speaketh of believers only in a house he giveth them not the name of a Church as Ro. 16. 10. Salute them that are of Aristobulus houshold V. 11. Greet them that are of the houshold of Narcissus Phil. 4. 22. All the Saints salute you especially those that are of Caesars house I desire to know a reason of the difference of this Grammar if there were no constituted Church in the house of Aquila and Priscilla why in one Chapter the Apostle should change the phrase and I desire know what reason we have to goe from the literall meaning of the word that is a Church at Aquila his house as well as a Church at C●rinth For whereas some say that Rom. 1. 6. he saluteth not all of the house of Narcissus but onely v. 11. those which are is the Lord 1. this exception is not brought concerning the house of Aristobulus v. 10. 2 This exception confirmeth what I say because where there is not a Church and an institured Society and politicall Church-meeting in the house of any of the Saint there they are called beleevers of such a house and not a Church at such a house 3. This phrase 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 used Rom. 16. 5. 1 Cor. 16. 19. Col. 4. 19. Phile. 2. must be the same with the Saints assemblea for the Word Sacraments Act. 5. 42. in the Temple 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 from house to house daily and it must be allope with Act. 2. 46. Where they continued daily in the Temple with one accord 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and breaking bread from house to house and all one with the assembly of Disciples Act 20. 7. where they assembled for the Word and Sacrament of the Supper especially seeing as the learned acknowledge the Christians could not have Temples or houses built for the publique assemblies of the Saints as Rome and Corinth but they met in private houses which seeing it cannot be denied then were there at Rome two Churches at least one at the house of Aquila and Priscilla 1 Cor. 16. 15. and another also pertaining to the rest of the Saints at Rome And this saith that if there had beene but one single Congregation at Rome whereas one family had a Church c. 165. and so many illustrious families received the faith of Christ it is like their faith could not have been published through all the world Rom. 1. 8. if the Christian faith had not had a greater prevalency in comparison of the false God● then worshipped at Rome then to be in one poore single meeting And for the Church of Corinth I humbly conceive they could not be one single congregation if these foure circumstances be considered 1. The multitude of beleevers there 2. The multitude of Teacher● 3. The diversity of Tongues 4. A Presbyteriall meeting of Prophets 1 Cor. 14. For the first Act. 18. 9. Many of the Corinthians believed and were baptized Now if we shall believe that the Apostolique Church conjoyned preaching and baptizing the Word and the Sacraments and that the Apostles baptized none but those to whom they preached I conceive it cannot be denied but there were divers assemblies for the Word and the Sacrament for Paul 1 Cor. 14. 15. Baptized n●ne but Crispus and Gaius and the houshold of Stephanus it many were baptized other Pastors not Paul baptized them 1 Cor. 1. 14 15 16. and so they were baptized in other assemblies then in those in which Paul baptized 2. It is cleare that to comfort Paul whose spirit could not but be heavy as you may gather from Rom. 7. 2 3. because he was Act. 18. 6 7. resisted so in his ministery by the blasphemies of the Jewes rejecting the Gospel that he shooke his rayment on them and said your blood be upon your owne heads I am cleane from henceforth I will goe to the Gentiles The Lord saith unto him in a vision 9. Be not afraid but speake and hold not thy peace 10. For I am with thee and no man shall set on thee for I have much people in this City 11. And he continued there a yeere and six moneths teaching the Word amongst them Now let this in equity be considered if the gaining of one single congregation which meet for the Word Sacraments 1 Cor. 11. 20 21 22. 1 Cor. 14. 19. and also to acts of Church-censures 1 Cor. 5. 4. as our brethren teach which could not exceed one thousand conveniently in a setled and daily meeting had first been much people secondly much in comparison of thousands of the Jewes who rejected the Lord Jesus as may be gathered from comparing Act. 18. 5 6. and Act. 13. 43 46 47. with Act. 21. ●0 where it is said many thousands of the Jewes believed for the greatest part of the Iewes rejected Christ as is cleare 1 Thess. 2. 14. 15. 16. and so many more thousands behoved to reject Christ then believed Now what comfort could Paul have had in this that many thousands of the Jewes rejected the Gospell and yet all the much people that God had in Corinth were but fo●soot● to the number of one compleat Assembly of a
sum of mony the common people ordinarily follow the learned and the wise of the City and Land This could not have been done except the far greater part of the City had submitted to the Gospell for when they were well neer ready to tear Paul in peeces they behoved to be wounderfully tamed when many Believed and came and confessed and shewed their deeds v. 18. Baynes com on 1. ch Ephes. saith Ephesus was a City sogiven to riot that it banished Hermodor Upon no other consideration but because he was an honest sober man And also Paul 1 Cor. 16. saith v. 9. for a great doore and effectuall is open to me at Ephesus This was as all Interpreters Protestant and popish say uno ore a large harvest Upon these considerations I leave to our reverend Brethren their judgement if Mr. Mather and Mr. Thomson say right we doe not thinke they were more in number at Ephesus then in Corinth and Ierusalem where the Christians met all in one place Likewise Samaria a numerous City was one Church for that it is said of them Acts 8 5 6. They heard Philip v. 14. Samaria received the Word it was a publick visible Churchreceiving of the word and v. 12. They believed and were Baptized both men and women Where a multitude no better then Heathen as Samaria was receive the Seale of the Covenant to wit Baptisme they must receive it in a Church-way except we thinke that promiscuously all come to age were received to the Seales and when Peter and Iohn came to Samaria to helpe Philip in the worke it cannot be that they all went to one House and to one single Assembly to preach the Word The Church of Antiochia must be a Presbyteriall Church a● it is Acts 11. v. 19. 20. for the multitude of Believers may be collected from These who were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Steven 20 when they were come to Antioch spaks unto the Grecians preaching the Lord Jesus 21. and the hand of the Lord was with them and a great number believed and turned to the Lord. This is not like to be one Congregation seeing they are 1. much people 2. many scattered preachers 3. And the Hand of the Lord accompained their labours 2. v. 23. when Barnabas sent by the Church of Ierusasalem came and saw the Grace of God he exhorted them all That with purpose of heart they would cleave to the Lord and upon Barnabas his preaching v. 24. much people was added to the Lord. Here is a second accession made to the Church of Antioch 3 v. 25. Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus to seek Saul 26. And when hee had found him hee brought him to Antioch And it came to passe that a whole yeare they assembled themselves with the Church and taught much people here is a third accession And such a huge multiplication that the Church of Antioch giveth a denomination of Christianity to all the Christian Churches of the World All which saith it cannot be one poore single Congregation for there was at least if not more then one Congregation at Antioch when tidings came to Jerusalem that the Lord had a Church at Antioch before they sent Barnabas to these Churches v. 22. and what might this Church grow to when much people was added to the Lord by the labours of Barnabas v. 24. And how was it increased when Barnabas and Paul after that taught the Word to much people a whole yeare v. 26. It grew after that a great Church so that Chrysostom commendeth Antioch for the prime Church And Oecumenius saith for this cause there was a Patriarch appointed at Antioch which certainly sayth thus much that it was a more numerous Church then one single Congregation and Cyrillus so extolled the Church of Antioch because the Disciples were first named Christians there that he saith this was the new name that Esaiah said the Mouth of the Lord should name and so doth Hilarius expound the Text which seeing it is clearely the new glory of the Church of the Gentiles adjoyned to the Church of the Iewes it cannot arise from a handfull of a single Congregation in the mind of these Fathers and though we love not with some antiquity to make Antioch the first Church before Rome yet seeing it was of old before Rome we may hence collect that that Church which was patriarchall was not Congregationall and therefore I make no use hereof Volaterranus who saith of old the Patriarch of Antioch had under him 14. Metropolitans 53. Bishops and 366 Temples onely it is like that Antiquity hath believed that there was a great number of Believers in this Church at first Now to These which to mee prove it was more then one Congregation wee may adde that there was Ch. 13. 1. in the Church that was at Antioch certaine Prophets and Teachers as they are reckoned out These at Antioch Ministered to the Lord in publick prayers saith Beza and preaching and saith Diodatus in administration also of the Sacraments and other parts of the Evangelick Ministery Oecumenius 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Now I would know what all these Prophets and Doctors beside Paul and Barnabas who preached a whole yeare at Antioch did in peaching to one single Congregation and also it is said Acts 15. 35. Paul and Barnabas continued at Antioch Teaching and preaching the Word of Lord 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 with also many others Certainly here is a Colledge of preaching Pastors who also did lay hands on Paul and Barnabas Acts 13. v. 3. which all could not be busied in Teaching one single Congregation at Antioch Mr. Mather saith that the whole multitude of the Church of Antioch were gathered together Acts 14. 27. and Acts 15. 30 31. to heare the Epistle read which was sent from the Synod Therefore this Church was no more then might meete in one place Answ. I answer the place Acts 14. 27. is the representative Church for they met for a poynt of Discipline at least for a matter that concerned all the Churches to wit to know how God had opened the doore of faith to the Gentiles then must the many thousands of Men and Women which made up the Church at Ierusalem Acts 2. 42. Acts 4. 4. Acts 5. 14. Acts 6. 1. v. 7. Acts 21. v. 22. be many Congregations now any Man may judge how unpossible it was for the many thousands of the Church of Ierusalem to meet as one Congregation for the Lords Supper and matters of Discipline and it is knowen that the many thousands of the believing Iewes convened to the feast did not make one Church Acts 21. 20. 21 22. for our Brethren say that was an extraordinary confluence of many people from all ●udea came to the feast of Pentecost And this many learned Protestant Divines answer to that place But 2. I doe believe that the assembling of the multitude at Antioch c. 15. v. 30. which sayth
Judas and Silas gathered to●ether the multitude and delivered the Epistle and Acts 11. 26. and Barnabas and Paul their assembling with the Church a yeare must be taken distributively And that there were more assemblings of the multitude and Church at Antioch then one for Silas Paul Barnabas abode a good space at Antioch and taught the Word of the Lord with many others Acts 15. 34 35. and therefore there is no ground or warrant to say that the Epistle was read to all that meeting in one day and at one meeting and as little warrant there is to say that Barnabas and Paul assembled themselves Acts 11. 26. with one and the same single Church-assembly consisting of all the Christians at Antioch in one house and in one day the space of the whole yeare in which they abode at Antioch nor shall I believe that Paul and Barnabas and many other Teachers at Antioch Acts 15. 35. Acts 11. 20 26. Acts 13. 1 2 3 4. assembled all in one materiall house at one single Church-convention but it suteth not with the wisdome of Christ who sent his Disciples out two by two for the hastening of the worke Mat. 10. That they did all even the many prophets at Antioch Acts 15. 35. Acts 13. 1. 2. onely bestow their labours upon one single Congregation And the word Church and Synagogue both are taken distributively in the Scripture and must of necessity be taken so And so must we take the word Exod. 12. 6. and so Ainsworth readeth it and the lambe shall be kept by you untill the fourteenth day of this moneth and the whole Church of the congregation of Israel shall kill it between the two evenings immolabunt eum 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Arias Montanus turneth it omnis cetus catus Synagogae Israel Now the Word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in that place must be taken distributively For all the children of Israel collectively did not meet to slay the Lambe for the Text saith v. 3. it was to be slaine in the House that is saith Ainsworth as the Greeke translateth Houses And here v. 3. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 according to the House of their Fathers The word House here must bee taken distributively for Rivetus with great reason inclineth to thinke that the Passeover was not a Sacrifice properly so called And truly to me the Lord doth determine the question Jer. 7. 22. for I spake not to your fathers nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the Land of Egypt concerning burnt offerings and sacrifice for 2 Chro. 30 v. 2. 17. there is no necessity to expound the place of these convivall Lambes of the Passeover but of other Sacrifices offered at this time see Lyran and Cajetanus And also Cornelius a lapide saith on the words because he can find no ground for the Mosse in the place hinc pate● universos sacerdotes non immolasse hos agnos paschales in Templo uti sentit Claudius Sainctes 1. Repet Eucharist c. 7. Abulensis in Exod. 16. ex eo Serrarius in Josu 5. 9. 22. and it is certaine every Master of the Family did slay his owne Lambe and Diodatus on these words in every House to shew the communion of the Church in the enjoying of Christ and his benefi●s And the seventy Interpreters render the place Exo. 12. 6. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the Chaldee paraphrast c. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 immolabunt eum omnis Ecclesia filiorum Israel Hieron immolabit eum universa multitudo filiorum Israel However there were neither Priests nor Temple as yet in Israel when they came out of Egypt And therefore every head of a Family did slay the Lambe and so the Church of the Congregation distributively taken slew the Lambe every one by himselfe and so is the word Synagogue taken where it s every way a Congregationall assembly as Mat. 13. 54. And when hee was come to His owne Country He taught them in their Synagogue 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The word Synagogue must be taken distributively For he did not teach in one single Synagogue onely in his own Countrey but in many Synagogues one after another in diverse places and at divers times as it is expounded Luke 4. 44. and Hee was preacking 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the Sgnagogues of Galilee in the plurall number Mat. 9. 35. He went about all Townes and Villages teaching in their Synagogues c. Joh. 18. 54. I ever taught in the Synagogues and dayly in the Temple whither the Iewes alwayes refort And therefore Synagogue Mat. 13. 54. in the singular number must be expounded distributively for many Synagogues in diverse places and diverse times and so doe I thinke the word Church and muluitude Acts 11. 26. Acts 5. 30. must be taken distributively and so the word Church is taken 1 Cor. 14. 19. Yet in the Church I had rather speak five words with my understanding that I may teach others then ten thousand words in an unknowen Tongue Paul I hope desired not to speake in a knowen tongue to edifie in one single Congregation of Corinth onely but in all the Churches where he taught and 1 Cor. 14 35. It is a shame for a Woman to speake in the Church the word Church cannot be in that place restricted to the one single Congregation supposed to meet all in one house at one time in Corinth because it is a shame for a Woman to preach in all the Churches of the World as is clear 1 Tim. 2 11 12. and Exod. 12. 47. all the Church 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of Israel shall doe it that is they shall eate the Lambe in their Houses and shall not break a bone thereof so the 70. Interpreters render it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Chaldee paraphrast Omnis caetus Israel faciet illud It were easie to b●ing infinite instances out of the Word of God to make good that a collective noun such as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a Church is taken distributively So James 2. 2. if toere came unto your assembly 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a man with a gold Ring c. Except the word assemblie or Church be taken distributively and not collectively it shall follow that all the dispersed Iewes to whom Iames doth write have one single place of Church-assembly as Heb. 10. 25. not forsaking 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the assembly of your selves together a● the manner of some is but can any inferre from this place more then from Acts 11. 26. Acts. 15. 35. that all the whole Hebrewes to whom that Apostle doth write had one 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 single Church-meeting and one Congregation in the which they did all meet for worship I thinke not or will it follow that there were none amongst all these Iewes who did separate from any Church-assemblie except onely from the Church-assembly of a single Congregation
Lords Supper in all Churches for if he be Baptized to Christs death he is Baptized to all Churches And 2. professedly in Covenant with God in all Churches and so hath right to the seales of the Covenant in all Churches for Gods Covenant is not principally and first made with a Parishionall Congregation but with the Catholike and universall Church comming under the name of Israel and Iudah and secondarily with a Parishionall Congregation Is a beleever a member of Christs body in one Congregation and not in all Congregations Hath he the keyes as a member of Christs body and a dwelling house for the holy Spirit in one Congregation and loseth them and the holy Spirit both when he goeth to another Congregation Manuscript Those who come from England to us are under publike scandals and reproach It is an offence that they come to us as members of no particular Church visible for they leave that relatiin where they left their habitation but of one Nationall Church whereof Christ hath given us no patterne in the New Testament and in 〈◊〉 he hath appointed no Nationall worship to be performed Answ. It is admirable that leaving a Parishionall Church in England they leave not the true visible Church so all the Parishionall Churches in England must be separated from as ●●om no Churches yet in that Church many of you had your Baptisme your conversion to Christ your calling to the Mini●e●● 2. How can it be an offence to be Members of no independent Churches in England whereas no such may be had there 3. Is it a fault to be members of a Nationall Church see if Act. 1. Act. 6. Act. 15. there be not a Church-meeting and publike exercise of praying discussing of matters by the Word choosing of officers refuting of false Doctrine This is worship and it is not the worship of a particular Church but there be no true Churches but yours and all are in offences and scandalls who are not members of your Churches this Augustine layeth to Donatists this Pareus layeth upon Au●baptists that they taught they onely were the true Church I conceive our deare Brethren are not of this mind Manuscript It is a publike offence that though they were Baptized in some Parish Church in England saith the Author upon som● Covenant and stipulation of Parents or God-fathers which also was without warrant yet they come to the Lords Table without any publike profession of their faith or repentance Answ. To say nothing of God-fathers who are civill witnesses that the Parents shall take care to educate the childe in the true Faith we see no publike profession by a Church-oath as you meane in the Church of Corinth but onely that every man was to trye himselfe and then to eate nor in the Apostles Church at all if you debarre them from the Lords Supper who are not inchurched by your Oath all the reformed Churches on Earth did never worthily eate and drinke the Lords body and blood It is saith he a publike offence that in the Parish Communion which not Communion of spirits but cohabitation begetteth they partake with all ignorant and scandalous persons not excluding drunkards prophane swearers whereby it commeth to passe that not a little leavin but a great measure of leavin doth deepely leavin the whole lumpe Answ. This tolleration of drunkards and swearers in the Lords Church and at his Table infecteth and is apt to leavin all with their evill conversation but doth not leavin the worship to the fellow-fellow-worshippers nor is the sinne of private persons yea nor of our Ministers who hath not power to helpe it but it is the fault of the Church except you make no separation from a Church where a scandalous person is tolerated for suffering moe or sewer doth not vary the spece to be a sin publickely to be repented before any can be members of your Church which is prodigious to us Fourthly It is a publicke offence saith the Authour that they have worshipped God according to the precepts of men c. Answ. This is the crime of conformity which I wish were publickely repented by all which hath defiled themselves with submitting to a Antichristian government and the Will-worship of men yet doth not this make Ministers no Ministers so as they must receive Ordination to the Ministery of new Peters fall took not away his Apostleship nor Jonah● flying from God nor Davids adultery made them not leave off to be Prophets Other arguments that I find in Papers from New England are these First There is not a Church say they under the New Testament but a Congregationall Church so it will follow that as City priviledges belong onely to the Citizens and their children so baptisme and the Lords Supper being Church priviledges belong onely to the Members of particular Churches and their seed and that seeing sigillum sequitur donum to apply them to any other is to abuse them As the scale of an Incorporation is abused when it is added to confirme a gift to one who is not a Free man of that Incorporation he being incapable thereof Answ. First The case is not here as in earthly Cities a man who is a free Citizen in one burrough is not for that a free Citizen of all the Burroughes and Cities on earth nor is he who is civilly excommunicated and cast out of his City priviledges in one City cast out of his City priviledges in all other Cities whereof he is a free member and the reason is there is not one common owner and Lord of all the Cities on earth who can give or take away in a Law-way City priviledges but the case is farre otherwayes in the priviledges of visible Churches for he who is a member of one visible Congregation is by his baptisme and sincere profession and his professed standing in Covenant with God a Member of all visible Congregations on earth as he is baptized in all Congregations on earth and if he be excommunicated out of a single Congregation he is excommunicated out of all and loseth right to the Scale of the Lords Supper in all visible Congregations as his sinnes are bound in heaven to all also for that one common head and Saviour who giveth him right to the Seales of Christs body and blood in one giveth him right to these Seales in all For we worthily communicate with Christ in his body and blood 〈◊〉 his body was broken and his blood shed for one single visible Congregation but as broken and shed for the whole 〈…〉 universall But this forme of reasoning utterly abolisheth all Communion of Churches nor can a member of one Noble Church be capable of the Seales of grace in another visible Church because he is not a Member of that visible Church no more then one is capable of the Priviledges of Paris who is onely a Citizen of London and not a Citizen of Paris If it be said one who is a member of a visible Church
because their calling is ordinarily traffiquing and so not consistent with a membership in a setled congregation are they I say without not to be edified by the censures of the Church but left to the immediate judgement of God this is contrary to Gods Word and an insolent interpretation and I find i● not in your place of Amesius They reason from inconveniencies Hence say they Church assemblies shall be confused meetings if all out of Church membership ●e admitted Answ. If by confused meetings you meane meetings of sound beleevers and hypocrites then Christs Kingdome compared to a draw-net wherein are good and bad are confused meetings and unlawfull which none can say but Anabaptists But if you meane meetings of these of your owne Congregation and strangers of approved piety these are not confused meetings but you begge what is in question and utterly abolish all Communion of Churches They adde the Church shall endanger the propbaning of the Seales and want a speciall meanes whereby their grace and piety shall be dis●erned if without respect of their Church estate men be admitted to the seales for their owne testimony is not enough also how can they be of approved piety who against light refuse to professe subjection to the Gospell by an orderly joyning themselves with some approved Church when they have opportunity seeing Church-fellowship is an action of piety required in the second Commandement and this meane of tryall hath beene so blessed that many approved men have beene after tryall found light to others and to their owne consciences Answ. Meanes of discovering sincerity or hypocrisie would be warranted by Gods word and meanes of eschewing the prophaning of the Seales also Simon Magus was not so tryed yea when Peter found him in the gall of bitternesse we sinde not that he cast him out of the visible Church in respect his sinne was not that publikely scandalous as to offend the whole Church 2. We grant that strangers are not rashly to be admitted to the Seales but you prove them not to be of approved piety because they will not sweare your Church-oath and your discipline as the onely true way and in so doing you say they refuse Church-fellowship commanded in the second Commandement but this is to be proved and not to be nakedly averred by you they beleeve and can give evidences of their beliefe so should by the word of God be admitted to the Seales Act. 10. 47. Act. 8. 37. Act. 16. 14 15. ver 31 32 33. 1 Cor. 11. 38. you deny them the Seales as i● they were dogges and unworthy prophaners of the Seales onely because they cannot sweare to your Church-government which you cannot prove from the word of God 3. You deny them to be of approved piety who will not joyne to an approved Church you meane your owne onely But you adde if they have opportunity but what if they want opportunity then the strong hand of God deharreth them their seed from the Seales of Grace now if any be to traffique by Seas and to travell to farre Countries in a lawfull calling he is legally uncleane and incapable of the Seales to himselfe or his seede for he cannot in Conscience and through necessity of his lawfull calling sweare your Church-oath for he must sweare to observe the manners of his fellow-members to edifie them by exhortation consolation rebuking to joyne himselfe in an eternall Covenant to that visible Church yea never to remove thence except the Congregation consent so your oath obligeth him to all these now this is impossible because of his lawfull calling and because he cannot be a Church-member for ever while he traffiqueth in his lawfull calling the comfort of the Lords supper is denyed to him and Baptisme to all his seede and that by a strong hand of providence without any fault in him shew us a warrant from the Law and the Testimony where any are to be debarred from the Seales of the Covenant and that ordinarily where sicknesse and some other Physicall impediments doth not occurre where there is no morall unworthinesse or guiltinesse in the persons debarred Will you debarre all from Church-comforts the presence of Christ in his Church the comfort of his walking beside the Candlestickes and his influence in the word Preached the power of the keyes the rebukes of the Saints their exhortation and private comforting of sinners the comforts of the Ordinances of Baptisme and the supper of the Lord because a strong hand of providence in a lawfull calling doth perpetually debarre them 4. You say your trying of Church-members is a meane blessed of God to try many mens sincerity I answer Unlawfull meanes as the persecution of Tyrants may have this successe what then is it a lawfull meane 2. I would Gods name were here spared it is not a meane blessed of God it chaseth away many from the net of the Gospell and the Pastorall care of the Shepheards and is not a conquering way to gaine Soules John Alasto say they in the dayes of Edward the sixth would bapize none but such as were members of that Church and therefore p●●paned this question to the Fathers Are these infants that you 〈◊〉 the seede of this our Church that they may lawfully be Baplized Answ. John Alasto had reason because of some present abuse some indifferent Atheists infidels in heart refused to joyne to either Churches either Protestant or Papists and sought Baptismeto their children in either Churches as they might have it and therefore was that question proponed to the Fathers but it proveth not your point Alasto excluded the Children of Atheists who would joyne to no Church as his words cited beare Ergo approved Christians and their seede are to be excluded from the Seales of the Covenant How weake is your reasoning If the Rechabites say they the Posterity of Jethro shall live in the ●idst of the Common-wealth of Israel some of them prove true beleeters as Jonadab the sonne of Rechab yet if they shall refuse to take bold of the Covenant of Israel to become Pr●selytes it is no sinne for Israel to withold the Passeover from them circumcision from their Children Answ. You might have proved your point a nearer way many legally uncleane and yet sound beleevers because of leprosie for no sinne were debarred from the Seales amongst the Jewes but have you any law to debarre any from the Seales of the Covenant of grace under the New Testament and that ordinarily for no sinne 2. Calvin thinketh their Vow not lawfull Bucanus Polyander and Willet think it the lawfull Vow of the Nazarites commanded Numb 6. What then If by Gods Law of the Nazarites they abstained from wine and the Passeover God is above his owne Law Ergo you may debarre men from the Seales under the New Testament for no sinne it doth not follow 3. How prove yee they abstained from the Passeover being so divine a Law might not their Vow suffer
bee regenerated also for it is certaine that we have a communion most inteare and visible with all who are baptized 2. It is no inconvenient to professe that we are all one visible body in the Lords Supper 1 Cor. 10. 17. though wee be not one invisible true and mysticall and redeemed body of Christ as it is said 1 Cor. 10. 2. That all were baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the Se●t v. 3. and that all did eate the same spirituall meat v. 4. and that all did drinke the same spirituall drinke the rocke Christ yet did they not sinne in this and partake with the wicked in their ●ills to wit in their wicked prayers and sacrifices because it is said v. 3. God was not pleased with many of them in the Wildernesse because v. 6. They lusted after evill things and many of them were Idolaters Epicures fornicators tempters of Christ and mumurers and there sell of them in one day twenty three thousand v. 7. 89 10 11. And upon the same ground Paul saith in the same place v. 16 17. that we many speaking of the Corinthians are all 〈◊〉 ●read and one body and yet v. 21. many of these were parta●ers of the Table and cup of the devills and in the next Chapter many came drunke to the Lords Table many did eate and drinke their owne damnation and were stricken therefore of God with sicknes and de●th v. 18 19 20. 29 30 c. and yet v. 33. Paul charg●th them to come together to the Lords Supper so farre is hee from a shadow of separation The Sacrament is a seale of their unitie of one body and is a Seale of their communion with Christ v. 16. but all who receive the signe have not a communion with Christ nor are they all sealed as one body mysticall of Christ onely they are in profession by eating one bread declared to be one body and doe become one body visible and no question many make the Sacrament to themselves a lying signe and a blaneke ordinance But first this is not the sinne of such as doe communicate with those who receive the blaneke seale and make the Sacrament to themselves a lying seale and damnation for they are commanded to exaamine themselves and so to eate but they are not commanded to examine their fellow-communicants and they are to judge themselves but not to judge their fellow-communicants Master Coachman How can any godly man consent or say Amen saith be to such an holy action when it is joyntly done by such as for the most part are the enemies of God Answer 1. This maketh against the man and the Churches of New England for they admit constantly to the hearing of the word and so to the prayers of the Church those who are not received members of the visible Church how can any godly man say Amen to the action of hearing the word when it is joyntly done by Gods enemies I prove the Antecedent the unity of faith hearing one word of faith preached Eph. 4. 5. maketh a visible body in profession even as the joynt partaking of one bread and one cup in the Lords Supper maketh one body by obsignation or sealing 1 Cor. 10. 16 17. 2. Division of hearts in hearing while some follow Paul some Apollo some Cephas maketh a schisme and division in Christs body 1 Cor. 13. Ergo in hearing one and the same word preached there is a visible Church-union for all division of that kind presupposeth a union and unity in a visible incorporation 3. 1 Cor. 14. 26. When yee come together as one Church body every one of you hath a Psalme hath a Doctrine vers 4. He that prophecieth edifiesh the Church vers 31. so yee may all prophecy one by one that all may learne and all may be comforted 35 it is shame for a woman to speake in the Church Therefore the Saints meet together in one Church to be edified and comforted by doctrine and hearing of the word doe all joyntly performe an action of hearing and learning of the word of God and are in that one Church and one visible body and called one Church verse 4. 5. that the Church may receive edifying verse 12. Seeke that yee may excell by prophecying to the edifying of the Church vers 23. If therefore the whole Church come together unto some place c. vers 28. if there be not an interpreter let him keepe silence in the Church verse 34 35. And these who understand are all to say Amen to that which is prophecied verse 16 17. And yet that action of hearing and saying Amen to the word preached and to the prayers of the Church is done by many unregenerated who are yet in the state of enmity with God as our Brethren grant in that they doe admit all to be a Church and one Church hearing the word preached 2. But how can they say Amen saith he to a holy action done 〈◊〉 Gods enemies I answer 1. This objection is no lesse against Paul and the word of God then against us for many enemies to God whose hearts are rockie thorny and stony ground doe heare the 〈◊〉 of God and that by Gods commandement Matth. 13. vers 2. 3 4 5. c. The deafe and the blind are commanded to heare Esai 42. 18. Esai 28. 9 10. and these whom God hath covered with a spirit of slumber are to heare the words of the sealed booke Isai. 29. 9. 10 11. even those who stumble at the word and fall and are broken Esai 8. 14. 15 16. 1 Pet. 2. v. 8. What godly man can say Amen to such a holy action as is performed by Gods enemies 2. The godly say Amen to actions of Gods worship two wayes 1. As it is the ordinance of God injoyned and commanded to the wicked and hypocrites no lesse then to the godly and we are to countenance their communicating as we doe their hearing of the word and to joyne with them both in our reall and personall presence and say Amen with them as the Disciples gave their personall Amen and their countenance and presence to a holy action at the last Supper with one of their number whom they knew to have a Devill and to be a traitor and dipped their hand in the dish with this man after Christ had warned them that there was such an one but this is but to say Amen to the externall worship which is lawfull according to the substance of the act 2. The godly may be throught to say Amen to the actions of worship performed by the enemies of God by approving allowing and commending the manner of their performing the holy actions of Gods worship that is they may be thought to approve the manner of their hearing and receiving the Sacraments that is when they approve their performing of those holy actions without faith and with wicked hearts and hands and when they allow that they eats their owne damnation thus no godly man can say Amen
to holy actions performed by Gods enemies nor is our externall communicating with them a saying Amen to the wicked manner of receiving the seales this is most unreasonable and cannot be proved by Gods word But Robinson will prove that in this place 2 Cor. 6. the Lord forbiddeth communion not onely with evill workes of wicked men but with their persons and that he commandeth a separation not onely reall but personall 1. Because saith he the Scripture hath reference to the yoaking of the unbeleevers in marriage as the occasion of spirituall idolatrous mixture which he reproveth now this joyning was not in an evill or unlawfull thing but with the wicked and unlawfull persons Answer If the man had formed a syllogisme it should be a crooked proportion if Paul allude to the marriage with insides then as we are not to joyne with Pagans in lawfull marriage so neither with scand ●●ous Christians in lawfull worship This connexion is gratis said and we deny it But as we are not to marry with Pagans so not to sit in their Idoll-Temple and to be present in their Idoll-worship else we were not to admit them or their personall presence to the hearing of the word contrary to your selves and to 1 Cor. 14. 24 25. So if because we are not to marry with them we are not to be personally present with them at the receiving of the Sacrament neither at the hearing of the word nor are we to be baptized because Sim●n Magus and many Hypocrites are baptized 3. Locall separation from Idoll-worship in the Idoll-Temple we teach as well as Robinson but what then he commandeth locall and personall separation from all the professors of the truth in the lawfull worship of God this we deny to follow 2. The very termes saith Robinson beleevers unbeleevers light darknesse Christ Belial doe import opposition not of things only but of persons also for things sake so the faithfull are called righteousnesse light and the ungody darknesse and so not onely their workes but their persons are called Answer 1. We deny not opposition of persons and separation locall from persons in Idoll-worship at an Idoll-Table but hence is not concluded personall separation from wicked men in the lawfull worship of God 2. This is for us we are to separate from the persons because the worship is unlawfull and Idoll-worship and therefore the contrary rather followeth i● the worship were lawfull we would not separate for remove the cause and the effect shall cease 3. The Apostle saith he forbiddeth all unlawfull communion in the place but there is an unlawfull communion of the faithfull with the wicked in things lawfull as with the excommunicated idolatrous 〈◊〉 or my other flagitious person in the Sacraments prayers and other religious exercises and the Iewes were to separate themselves 〈◊〉 from the manners of the He●then but even from their ●ers●s ●zr 19. 1. 2. and 10. 2 3. Nehem. 9. 10. 28 30. And Paul 〈◊〉 the Corinthians 1 Cor. 5. for having fellowship not onely in ●● persons in●est but with the incestuous person whom therefore they 〈◊〉 ●urge out and to put away from amongst themselves verse 5. ● 13. Answer It is true there is an unlawfull communion of the faithfull that is overseers and guides of the Church to whom God hath committed the keyes of the Kingdome of Heaven with excommunicated persons in that they retaine one worthy to be excommunicated in the bosome of the Church but communion with the Church in the holy things of God is not hence concluded to be unlawfull because the guides of the people communicate with that Church where the excommunicated person is suffered it is the sinne of the Church-guides that an excommunicated person is not cast out and that he is suffered to communicate at the Lords Table and to profane ● in not discerning the Lords body but it is not the sinne of either guides or the people to communicate at one Table with the excommunicated person or him that deserveth to be excommunicated for not casting out is one thing and to communicate with the excommunicated in the true visible Church is another thing the former is a sinne not to use the power that Christ hath given but to communicate with the excommunicated person is not a sinne but a remembring of the Lords death at Christs commandement for one sinne maketh not another sinne to be lawfull or to be no sinne to deliver one unto Satan is to debarre one from the Lords Supper and to repute him as a Publican and to judge him not worthy of the communion in the holy things of God with the Church but this is not to repute the Church or guides or members as Publicans and Heathens and as not worthy of Church-communion with the man who is cast out we see the Church of Corinth rebuked for not excommunicating the incestuous man but not forbidden to come and eate the Lords Supper with him and these who came and did eate their owne condemnation● 1 Cor. 11. yea they are commanded to come to the publike meeting Ergo it is one thing not to excommunicate the scandalous a sinne and another thing to communicate with the scandalous which is not a sinne directly nor forbidden at all Though Paul have an allusion to the Lords separating of the Jewes from all other people yet it followeth not that we are to separate from the wicked men and unrenewed professing the truth that way first because there was a typicall separation in marriage with Canaanites if the Jewes should marry with the Canaanites the marriage was null and the Moabites and Ammonites ought not to enter in the Temple 2. The Jewes are to separate from the manners of Heathen and from the persons of strange wives yea and to put their wives of the Canaanites after they had married them away from them in token of their repentanee because the marriage was not onely unlawfull but null as is cleare Ezra 9. 1 2 3. N●hem 9. 1 2. And this was a peculiar Law binding the holy seed but doth not inferre the like separation of Christians for 1 Cor. 7. 11 12. it is not lawfull for a Christian to put away a Pagan wife or for the beleeving wife to forsake the Pagan husband and therefore that Jewish separation cannot inferre a separation from the persons and worship of unbeleevers and it is true that Paul commandeth to cast out the incestuous person and to separate him from the Church but it followeth not therefore the Church was to separate from the publike worship because he was not cast out 4. Saith Robinson the Apostle inj●yneth such a separation at upon which a people is to be esteemed Gods people the Temple of the living God and may challenge his promise to be their God and to dwell amongst them and to walke there and as for the Temple the stone● and timber thereof were separated from all the trees of the Forest and set together in comely
would plant the Lords v●neyard with such impes or gather unto the Church flagitious persons drunkards i●●es●tous persons or such as denied the resurrection Answ. 1. Paul never insinuateth in one letter that these wicked persons marred the constitution and matter of the visible Church but onely that they marred the constitution of the invisible Church that being bought with a price they should give their bodies to harlotry and that in denying the resurrection they denyed the Scriptures and turned Epicures who said Let us ●a●e and drinke for to morrow we shall die but there is nothing to insinuate separation from the Church as false in the constitution 2. Paul doth not plant wicked men as impes in the Lords Vineyard they plant themselves in the roome of true members of the Church invisible and as the redeemed of God when they are not so indeed and this sort of planting is given improperly to the pastors But if you understand by planting the casting out of the draw-net of the word of the kingdome preached and the inviting of as many to come in as the Pastors doe finde Matth. 22. 9. 10. even good and bad this way it is the mouth of truth and not a prophane mouth that Pastors invite professors to come in and bee members of the visible Church though their act of inviting have no kindly influence in the hypocrisie of their profession who are invited To professe the truth is good and laudable and to deny it before men damnable and to invite men to this profession of the truth is good and laudable also And wisedome sendeth out her maidens and by them inviteth simple ones and fooles to professe the truth and to come to the visible Church Prov. 9. 4. Prov. 1. 20 21. but Pastors doe not plant drunkards and flagitious persons in the visible Church but the Apostolike Church calling to her communion Simon Magus Act. 8. but doth not plant them as hypocrites but as externall professors Mr. Coachman saith It is no wrong to leave the carnal multitude as it was no hurt to Jehosaphat when Elisha in his presence protested against Joram as one betwixt whom and God hee would not intercede Answ. Put case Jehosaphat be a Church visible worshipping God aright you wrong his societie if you leave the shepheards tents where Christ feedeth amongst the Lilies till the day breake because there bee foxes in these tents and wicked persons Is it not saith he sweeter to converse with the Godly then with the ungodly Is not the presence of faithfull Christians sweeter when one commeth to powre out his prayers and offer his oblation then the society of carnall men Answ. This will prove it is lawfull to separate from Pharisees preaching the truth in Moses his chaire the contrary whereof you were Sect. 4. Pag. 10. because it is sweeter to heare the word with the Godly then with the ungodly We have not found saith Coachman the honorable name of Christians or godly men given to liars swearers c. no comfort no priviledges belong to them in that state it belongeth not unto them but unto us to build the house of the Lord Ezra 4. 3. Answer Yea God bestoweth the priviledges of externall calling unto good and bad even to those who preferre their lusts to Christ Matth. 22. 9. Luk. 14. 17 18 19. 2. The place of Ezra is corrupted for those were the open adversaries of Judah and Benjamin v. 1. and were not the Church at all 3. Onely Pastors are publicke and authoritative builders of the Church not private Christians The wicked saith he have the things of this life above the godly Ergo they should not be invested in the highest prerogatives above the godly also it is a presumption to say to any carnall man This is the body of the Lord that was given for thee Answer It is the cry of a stone to reason thus this argument is as much against Gods providence as against us for God sendeth to Capernaum and Bethsaida the priviledge of Christs presence in preaching the Gospel and working miracles yet they are an unworthy people 2. Pastors of the separation give the body of Christ to lurking Hypocrites are they not herein presumptuous also They object To live in the want of any of Gods ordinances is not lawfull as Matth. 28. 20. 2 Chron. 30. 8. Cant. 1. 7. 8. so saith Robinson A man is not onely bound in his place to admonish his neighbour but also to see his place be such as be may admonish his brother a calling absolutely tying a man to the breach of any of Gods Commandements is unlawfull and to be forsaken Answ. Seeing affirmative precepts tye not ad semper and Christian prudence is to direct us here there be some in Church communion whom we cannot without palpable inconveniences rebuke The Ministers of New-England in their answer to the n● question say such as are not free servants or sonnes may stay in paroch Assemblies in Old England so as they partake of no corruptions and live not in the want of any ordinances they meane wanting the Lords Supper through their default now to separate from the Lords Supper because of the wickednesse of the fellow-fellow-worshippers is their default which is against Robinson yet we see not how masters or fathers should separate from Christs true Church more then servants or sonnes 2. Not to admonish in some cases is not a breach of a Commandement nor living besides scandalous persons in a Church or for any to abstaine from the seales because such be in the Church except we would goe out of the world for Robinson presseth alwayes personall separation no lesse then Church separation Robinson There is the same proportion of one member sinning of a few of many of a whole Church now if one brother sinne and will not be reclaimed he is no longer to be reputed a brother but a heathen Ergo so are we to deale with a Church though there be a different order the multitude of sinners doe no wayes extenuate the sinne Answ. 1. Then may a whole Church by this reason be excommunicated which our brethren deny 2. There is the same proportion to be kept when one sinneth and when a whole Church sinneth but by observing due order one may admonish a private brother but not any one or many private persons may admonish and proceed after our Saviours order against a whole Church in a Church way in respect they are still inferiour to a whole Church sister Churches and Synods are to keepe this order with one particular Church that is incorrigible for private persons have relation of brotherhood to private persons and the relation is private and Churches have Church relation to Churches and the relation is publike Nor are whole Churches to be excommunicated while God first remove the Candlesticke as we see in Rome and the seven Churches in Asia 2. It is considerable 1. If the whole Church be obstinate and incorrigible or some few or
in lawfull office of the Ministery 2. When conversion doth follow it doth not follow from the preaching of a Pastor or by vertue of his office but by the blessing of God Answ. 1. The former reason is most weake conversion followeth not alway upon Christs preaching and the Apostles their preaching did not alwayes produce conversion but I pray you because they were not efficacious meanes of conversion doth it follow Therefore they were not ordinary meanes I thinke not 2. The second is as weake Conversion followeth not upon the preaching of a Pastor by vertue of his office but by the blessing of God What Ergo Pastorall preaching is not an ordinary meane of conversion neither doth conversion follow upon preaching by vertue of the gift no more then by vertue of the office but by the blessing of God Ergo neither is preaching of a gifted man the ordinary mean of conversion as you teach nor are the Sacraments by this reason ordinary meanes to seale up our communion with Christ and the graces of the Covenant for Sacraments are efficacious meanes onely by the blessing of God and not by vertue of the office We doe not hold that the office hath influence either in the word preached or in the Soules of people but it followeth not that the Pastorall preaching of these who are sent Rom. 10. 14. Esa. 40. 9. and that with Pastorall authority are not the meanes appointed of God for conversion but here they confound meanes actu primo lawfull and ordinary with meanes efficacious and in actu secundo blessed with successe from the Lord. This we acknowledge say they that sound conversion of sinners argueth that the instruments of such conversion were sent of God Rom. 10. 14 15. Jer. 23. 32. yet we dare not say that Gods word is not effectuall to conversion unlesse the man that speaketh it be a Minister that is a Church-officer the contrary being evident Joh. 4. 10. Act. 8. 4. Matth. 11. 19 21. 1 Cor. 7. 16. and to say so mere to limit the Spirit of God where he hath not limited himselfe 1 Cor. 12. 11. 1 Cor. 1. 27. 29. Answ. 1. Sending Rom. 10. 14. is an officiall and authoritative sending not onely a bare gifting and habilitating of the man sent for it is such a sending as the sending of Prophets whose feete were pleasant upon the mountaines and the watchmen who lift up their voice Esa. 52. 7 8. Nah. 1. 15. and this is not a naked gifting but besides they were commanded by God to speake and so had authority now though private Christians be instruments of conversion yet it followes no wayes that they are preachers sent of God in the sense that the Scripture speaketh Rom. 10. 14. 15. and farre lesse in the sense that is spoken Jer. 23. 32. for it is said these who prophecie lyes in Gods name and were not sent shall profit the people nothing now the sending denyed to be in these false teachers is not onely want of gifts but want of an authoritative command of God to preach as is cleare v. 21. I have not sent these Prophets yet they ranne I have not spoken unto them yet they prophecyed When it is said The word of the Lord came to Jeremiah to Ezekiel c. the meaning is not that Jeremiah was gifted onely but beside 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 an hability to prophecy the Lord gave him 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 authority by a speciall Commandement saying Go speake Loe I have sent thee c. Now this immediate Commandement from God himselfe speaking from heaven or in a vi●on is not in the Churches of the New Testament yet God speaketh by the Elders and Presbytery to Pastors now 1 Tim. 4. 14. 1 Tim. 5. 22. Tit. 1. 9. 10. except you I say with Arminians and Socinians there is no neede now of the Churches sending all gifted may preach the Gospell without any Church-call 3. This consequence is loose conversion of sinners argueth that the instruments were sent of God Ergo the Preaching of Pastors ●● Pastors is not the ordinary meane of conversion Lastly We deny not but private Christians may be instruments of conversion but the places which afterward shall be examined prove not the point that Pastorall preaching in a constitute Church is not the ordinary meane but your Doctrine is that Pastors as Pastors doe onely confirme those in the faith who are already converted but that they convert none at all as Pastors but that the onely ordinary meanes of conversion and of planting of men in formall state of Church-membership are men gifted to preach and not Pastors by office Sending say they sometimes importeth but an act of Gods providence whereby men are gifted and permitted to do such a thing though they be not commanded of God nor do in obedience to God but for sinisterous ends so God sent the King of Assyria Esay 10. 6. 2 King 24. 2. So they that preached of envy Phil. 1. 15. are sent So Balaam was sent 2. Some are sent who beside gifts and permission have also a sincere mind to imploy their gifts God by his Spirit stirring them up 1 Joh. 7. 18. 3. Those are sent of God who have both gifts permission and a sincere mind to imploy their gifts and withall a lawfull calling to the office if men want a lawfull calling to that office of the ministery and are not sent of God the third way yet may they preach and convert soules as sent of God the first and second way Answ. 1. There should have beene places of Scripture to prove that Balaam and the enviers of Paul Phil. 1. 15. who preached Christ of envy were sent the first way for Balaam prophecied of the Starre of Iacob as one lawfully sent and a called Prophet as all other Prophets though hee was not a gracious man for Numb 24. 2. Balaam saw the visions of God and the Spirit of God came upon him 4. He saw the visions of the Almighty and fell in a trance and Isaiah Ieremiah Ezekiel had no other calling as Prophets though in zeale and simplicitie of prophecying they differed from Balaam and Paul would never have rejoyced that these teachers preached Christ Phil. 1. 15. if they had without all calling of God preached Christ doubtlesse they had a calling of the Church to preach except you thinke that none have a calling as called pastors but those who are converted 3. By this distinction you hold that men may be ordinary Preachers gifted and so sent of God to preach and may and doe convert soules though they have no calling of the Church which unsound doctrine the Arminians and Socinians hold this day for they teach 1. That all gifted persons may preach the Gospel and convers soules 2. That all who are gifted to preach are sent and lawfully called to preach though the Church doe not call them 3. That now since the Gospell is sufficiently revealed and the Apostles are dead there is
of God and the wisedome of God to those who are saved is the Gospel preached by such as are sent both to preach and baptise but the Gospel preached by gifted men only out of office is not the Gospel preached by those who are sent both to preach and to baptise Ergo the Gospel preached by onely gifted persons voyd of all office is not the power and wisdom of God to those who are saved The assumption is granted for gifted men out of office may not lawfully baptise I prove the proposition 1 Cor. 1. 23. but wee preach Christ c. That this wee is to bee understood of those who are sent both to preach and baptise is cleare vers 17. But Christ sent mee not to baptise but to preach that is he sent mee not to baptise principally Ergo in one and the same Patent from heaven Paul was warranted to preach and to baptise as one commission is given Matth. 28. 19. to teach all Nations and to baptise yea it is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 then it is such a preaching as must bee backed with the sealing by baptisme also if he had meant that preaching was not peculiar to Apostles and other successors hee should have said But yet preach Christ crucified c. for Separatists do teach with Socinians that there was a multitude of unofficed Prophets at Corinth Robinson as if he had learned in Socinus his schoole saith to this But for the word sending which he so much urgeth it must bee knowne that all who teach lawfully are sent by Christ in respect of their personall gifts and graces so ordinary officers are not sent by those who appoint them to minister as was the extraordinary Apostles sent by Christ who appointed them Sending importeth a passeth of the sent from the sender to another and so the Apostles were sent by Christ to preach the Gospel to the Jewes and Gentiles and so are not Pastors sent by the Church which calleth them unto others but to minister unto her selfe after the exercise of publike ministery is ended the Church doe publikely exhort and require as the Rulers doe Paul and Barnabas Act 13. 14. that if they have any word of exhortation they would say on Answ. Surely Mr. Yates and wee both have much for us to urge the necessitie of sending except men would runne unsent and so be guilty of intrusion for so doth the Scripture Exod. 28. 1. Take to thee Aaron thy brother c. Numb 1. 49. Thou shalt appoint the Levits over the Tabernacle of the Testimony and over all the vessels and all that belongeth thereunto so saith Hezekiah to the Levites The Lord hath chosen you to stand before him and to minister unto him Esay 6. 8. And I heard the voyce of the Lord saying Whom shall I send and who shall goe for me 9. and hee said goe and say to this people Jerem. 1. 4. And the Word of the Lord came unto me saying v. 5. Hos. 1. 1. and the Word of the Lord came to me Heb. 1. 1. Joh. 1. 6. There was a man sent of God Luk. 3. 2. Matth. 10. 5. Those twelve Jesus sent forth Isa. 48. 16. Isa. 61. 1. Heb. 5. 4. Joh. 20. 21. Matth. 28. 19. Mark 16. 15. Rom. 11. 1. Rom. 1. 1. Gal. 1. 1. Act. 14. 13. Paul and Barnabas ordained Elders in every Church 1 Tim. 4. 14. 1 Tim. 5. 22. 2 ●im 2. 2 3. Tit. 1. 9 10. If you urge not sending you goe from the Scriptures 2. He saith all who lawfully teach are sent of God in respect of personall gifts But 1. where doth the holy Ghost speake so in the Scripture All then who have gifts to be Kings and Magistrates are sent of God to the throne and bench what bloody confusions would hence fellow Yea if they have gifts to bee Kings and do not all flie to the throne they resist the calling of God and sinne in so doing as Jonah did and hide their Lords Talent 2. Women in whose lipps is the Law of grace Prov. 31. 26. and who are to teach the younger women Tit. 2. 3. 4. are so sent of God to preach O but say they they are forbidden to preach I answer true then to be gifted to preach is not all one with this to bee sent to preach for to bee sent to preach of God is to be commanded to preach If then women bee sent in respect of gifts they are commanded to preach and that by God and yet Gods Word forbiddeth them to preach Ergo that same will of God revealed doth command and forbid one and the same thing which is absurd Ergo to be gifted is not to be sent to preach 3. You here clearely side with Arminians and So●inians for Episcopius requireth no more to preaching but that the man bee idoneous and apt to teach And Theoph Nocolaides that there be in him an holy life and aptitudo ad docendum alios aptitude to teach others 4. Arminians and Socinians teach that the sending Rom. 10. 14. and other places are meant of extraordinary sending which is now ceased since the Apostles are dead So c Episcopius and Arminians in their confession Socinus Ostorodius expound the place Rom. 10. 14. Paulum de suo duntaxat tempore loqui and so there is no need of sending now and Robinson sympathizing with them saith Ordinary officers are not sent now by the Church as the Apostles were then sent of Christ but the professors of Leyden refuting the Arminians say there is a necessitie of sending now as there was then and Calvin Beza Paraeus accord to this that Paul speaketh of ordinary calling 4. The Word of God differenceth the giving of gifts to the ministery and the giving of authoritie and sending authoritative by a lawfull calling the one being collatio 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the other 〈◊〉 as Matth. 10. 1. Then he called the twelve and gave them power and v. 5. their sending and gifting by authoritie is cleare these twelve he sent out So Jer. 1. 5. I have separated thee c. this is calling and sending v. 9. Then the Lord put forth his hand and touched my mouth this is a giving of gifts and Isa. 1. 1. Isaiah is gifted when he saw the visions of God but Chap. 6. 7. he is sent and receiveth authority to goe beside that v. 8 9. and Job 20. when Christ breathed upon the Disciples hee giveth them the gifts of the holy Spirit but when he saith Go and teach and as my father sent me so send I you he giveth them authoritie and sendeth them yea though Prophets did prophecie true things that should come to passe yet were they false Prophets De●t 13. 1 2. because the Lord sent them not And for the place Rom. 10 14. cited from Isa. 52. though Prophets hearing Isaiah and Jeremiah prophecie of the peoples returne from Babylon should prophecy the same that Isaiah
miracles are a part of the Gospel and written that we should beleeve Joh. 20. 30. and they prove that Jesus is the Sonne of God Ergo This man being no Prophet preached the Gospel Answ. 1. This will not conclude the Question 1. One man published one single miracle wrought upon himselfe which is a part of the Gospel onely 2. And upon a particular occasion did show what things the Lord had done for him 3. He is commanded to publish it to his friends and domesticks onely Matth. 5. 19. Go to thy house 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to thine owne friends and show them what the Lord hath done for thee Hence from this narrow antecedent a vaste and broad conclusion is drawne Ergo it is lawfull because this man published one particular of the Gospel for any gifted man to preach the whole Gospell because one man did it upon a miraculous occasion to his friends Ergo all gifted men may prophesie the whole Gospel to all the Churches ordinarily it is a vaine consequence 2. Because hee published one particular upon a particular exigence therefore any gifted man may ordinarily and weekly and daily Preach for the conversion of soules 3. Because hee published one miracle to his friends in a private way therefore any gifted man may preach the whole Gospell in publick to all the Church truly here is a weake reason 2. It is most like that this man was an intruding Prophet like the Separatists Prophets for he requested that hee might be with Jesus and bee made a Disciple to preach the Gospell as Calvin Marlorat Bullinger expone it but Jesus suffered him not Now if Christ had commanded him to be a Prophet as Robinson will have him he should have granted what he sought Lastly the man did more then Christ commanded for Mark. 9. 20. Hee published it in Decapolis throughout all the citie whereas Christ had limited the publishing thereof to his friends and house onely Robinson saith Luk. 10. The Seventie Disciples preached and yet they were men out of office I answer 1. The Seventie Disciples were Pastors in office 1. Satan by their ministery fell from heaven as lightning v. 19. Christ saith Behold I give you power to tread upon serpents Luk. 10. 1. After these things the Lord apponted other Seventie and sent them out here is a cleare calling they confirme their doctrine by miracles and casting out of devills as the twelve Apostles 2. Christ sent out 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 also other Seventie Ergo as hee gave a calling to the Twelve so hee did to these Seventie and the same pa●●orall commission is given to them Behold I send you c. Luk. 10. 3 4 5 6. 3. The Seventie are called workmen sent out to the Lords harvest Luk. 10. 2. and the same is said of Shepheards in office Matth. 8. 36 37 38. to whom wages are due as to Pastors in Office 1 Cor. 9. 13 14. Gal. 6. 6. 1 Tim. 5. 17. 3. It is said by Christ of these Seventie He that heareth you heareth me he that despiseth you despiseth me Ergo they were Ambassadors in Christs stead as Pastors in office are 2 Cor. 5. 20. The Samaritane woman saith Robinson Job 4. 28. Preached and many of the Samaritans beleeved because of her v. 39. and without preaching of the word of God none can beleeve Rom. 10. 14 15. If a woman may teach without the Church then may a man teach in the Church Answ. 1. A woman may teach 2. In a non-constituted Church where there is no salvation and they worship they know not what Joh. 4. 22. 3. A woman may occasionally declare one point of the Gospel that Maries Sonne is Christ but hence it followeth not Therefore 1 a man 2 in a constituted Church 3 may ordinarily preach the whole Gospell to the Church in publick a weake sparre for so vast a roofe 2. He abuseth the place Rom. 10. 14. and would hence prove that a woman or any gifted teacher is a sent Preacher by whom faith ordinarily commeth for otherwayes who dare deny but faith commeth by reading and just as the Catechise of Raecovia exponeth the place Rom. 10. 14. to evert the necessitie of a sent ministery so doth Robinson expone the place Robinson Act. 8. 1 2 3 4. Act. 11. 20 21. All the Churches were scattered abroad except the Apostles and those who were scattered preached every where the Gospell Ergo Disciples out of office may lawfully preach the Gospel Answ. Whether these of the scattered Church who preached were the Seventie Disciples as learned Divines thinke I dispute not But that they were Prophets out of office the Text saith not But that they were extraordinarily gifted Prophets who preached I conceive the text doth insinuate for it is said Act. 11. 21. The hand of the Lord was with them the very word which is Ezek. 3. 14. The hand of the Lord was strong with me 2. In a scattered and dissolved Church gifted persons may prophesie Ergo in a constituted Church gifted persons are the ordinary and onely Ministers of conversion though they bee never called to the office it doth no wayes follow Robinson saith it is not reasonable to think that they were all extraordinary Prophets and that if they were immediately inspired there had beene no need of so speedy sending of Barnabas from Hierusalem to Antioch with supply though he were a man full of the holy Ghost for ●● were such Prophets as well as ●ee Ephes. 2. 20. and 3. 5. Answ. Wee doe not affirme that all and every one of the Church even women and children were extraordinarily gifted but whether their gift was ordinary or extraordinary the Text doth not say that they were Prophets out of office and the Law of disputing saith Affirmanti incumbit probatio the hand of God was with them as it useth to bee with Prophets 2. They travelled as farre as Phenice Cyprus and Antioch preaching the word of the Lord this is that which the Apostolick planters of Churches did as Master builders laying the foundation of Churches and Calvin calleth them Ministers planters of the Gospel Nor is it like that Prophets not in office would so travell and preach the Gospel to the Gentile ●s and Calvin saith singulari Dei impulsu hoc factum and that many were turned unto the Lord. 2. Barnabas saw the grace of God in them 3. And exhorted them that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord Ergo there was grace and a profession visible of cleaving to the Lord before Barnabas came and so a founded Church and if it had beene done by gifted Christians of ordinary gifts and wanting the spirit of Prophecy the work had been the more illustrious and it would not have beene concealed yea and helpe in so great an harvest by Barnabas an Apostolick man was very needfull the number being so great of those who were converted to the faith seeing the great Apostles sought helpe
this if it stand good As many as may love one another and may edifie exhort and comfort one another may expresse their love by publick prophecying for edification in love but all Christians even such as are not in Church-state nor officers are to love one another to edifie exhort and comfort one another Ergo. The proposition is most false women are obliged to love one another and to exhort and edifie one another Prov. 31. 26. Til. 2. 3. yet can they not prophesie in the Church 1 Cor. 14. 34 35. yea excommunicated persons are not loosed from the duties of love and mutuall rebuking in private if they may bee exhorted as brethren 1 Thess. 3. 15. They may exhort and rebuke others Levit. 19. 17. which the law of nature requireth yea Peter as a Pastor out of love to Christ is to preach Ioh. 21. 15. 16 17. But therefore private Christians are not obliged to Pastorall preaching and administration of the Seales which are expressions of the love of Christ yet to administer Sacraments is an act of edification is therefore every act of edification and love common to all because to love and in some private way to edifie all is incumbent as a dutie to all nay a King out of love of Christ should governe Gods people a Captaine fight Gods battells a Sea man saile a Professor teach in the Schooles will it follow because to love one another is common that all private men may bee Kings may kill men in battell and that the Plowman should saile and invade the Mariners calling this were Anabaptisticall confusion of places and callings and should evert states places charges and callings and overturne Church and State and make the Church an old Chaos the God of order hath not so ordered callings and places But saith the man if the end which is edification and comfort continueth therefore the gift of prophecying continueth Answ. 1. Prophecying continueth who taketh it out of the world It continueth in such as God hath set in the Church for that end and use 1 Cor. 12. 29. but not in all and every Plowman who in his place is obliged to edifie 2. The Argument is also weake that continueth the end whereof continueth forso circumcision passeover sacrificing the end of all which was edifying should continue in the Church Mr. Yates answered to him extraordinary gifts as strange tongues miracles are for edification yet they continue not Mr. Robinson answereth to him strange tongues and the office of the Ministery doe not properly edifie but the use of strange tongues I answer there doth much weaknesse here appeare love in Mr. Robinsons breast doth not edifie nor his habit of prophecying but the acts of expressions of love and the use of prophecying edifieth and for that cause wee may well say that the office doth edifie There being saith Robinson no other meanes to edifie exhort and comfort left in the Church but propbecying Paul argueth from the common grace of love as well upon brethren as officers to ordinary as to extraordinary and at all times prophecying that all out of office may prophesie to the worlds end if they have gifts Answ. Is there no meanes to edifie exhort and comfort but prophecying and that prophecying publick in the Church and pastorall that is denyed what say you of private and domestick exhorting praying praysing reading and Christian conference Coloss. 3. 16. Mal. 3. 16. Zach. 8. 21. are not they singular meanes of edifying hath Christ left no meanes of edifying exhorting and comforting but the publick prophecying of Clothiers Mariners Fashioners 2. Faith commeth by hearing of a sent minister Rom. 10. 14. It pleased God by preaching of sent Pastors 1 Cor. 1. 17. 21. to save those who beleeve Robinson 2 Argu. v. 31. You may all prophesie that all may learne that all may be comforted be speakes of prophecying of all as largely as of learning of all according to the received rule of exponing the notes of universalitie Answ. Women ungifted brethren infidels in the Church by his owne grant may learne but they may not prophesie in the Church Ergo many more are to learne then may prophesie and the one All is narrower then the other for all are not Prophets 1 Cor 12. 29. therefore all may not prophesie in one and the same verse 1 Cor. 11. v. 32. and Isa. 53. v. 6. the notes of universalitie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 wee all are taken divers wayes yea one and the same word applyed to divers subjects is taken divers wayes as 1 Sam. 12. 18. And the people greatly feared the Lord and Samuel and my sonne saith the Wise man seare the Lord and the King Prov. 24. 21. Mr. Yates said well all ought to have the gift of hearing but not of prophecying Robinson answereth every particular person is not bound to have the gift of prophecying but if he speake to purpose he must say that no ordinary brethren out of office ought to have the gift of praphesie which if it be true then ought none to strive for fitnesse to become officers neither were that reproofe just Heb. 5. 11. Answ. He speaketh to purpose to destroy your Argument which you destroy your selfe while as you grant many may learne who may not prophecie 2. Hee may say truely no ordinary brethren out of office but purposed to remaine artificers are to strive for fitnesse to the office of ministery but many out of office may have the gift of prophecying who are not Prophets and you grant I thinke many are gifted to be Kings who neither are Kings nor may lawfully exercise acts of royall majestie without treason both to God and their King For the place Heb. 5. 11. the Apostle rebukes the Hebrewes both officers and people as dull of hearing whereas they ought to bee teachers of others 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is as you expone it Prophets out of office who ought to prophesie publickly to the edifying of the Church But take home this Argument thus Those whom the Apostle rebuketh as dull of hearing who ought to bee teachers and unofficed Prophets are obliged to be indeed such Prophets for a rebuke is for the omission of a morall dutie which wee are oblieged to doe or for the committing the contrary but he rebuketh teachers in office women children and ungifted brethren as dull as hearing for that they ought to be Prophets were not Ergo all even teachers in office women children and ungifted brethren ought to be Prophets not in office Now the conclusion is absurd and against your selfe for you say Pag. 58. every particular person in the Church is not bound to have the gift of prophecying women are not bound I am sure yet are women rebuked for being dull of hearing and for that they ought to be teachers of others and were not 2. Hence it is cleare that you corrupt the word of God and to be teachers in that
place is to be such as so aboundeth in the knowledge of God as to teach rebuke admonish and comfort mutually one another in a private way not to preach publikely in the Church for the ordinary conversion of soules for which sort of Prophets you do contend Robinson addeth The Apostle cannot meane extraordinary Prophets 1 Cor. 14. there could not bee such a number of extraordinary Prophets now when extraordinary Prophets were beginning to cease in the Church Answ. 1. When the Church of Corinth abounded in every thing in all knowledge and utterance and came behind in no gift 1 Cor. 1. 5. 7. and so much grace was given them in Jesus Christ v. 4. It is cleare there were abundance of Prophets even then in Corinth 2. It is not to purpose for lay-Prophets whether they were ordinary or extraordinary Prophets They were Prophets as the Spirit of God calleth them 1 Cor. 12. 29. set in the Church as officers even as Apostles and Governors and Teachers who are officers And there is no reason that you should impose significations on words at your owne pleasure without warrant of the Word Now shew us in all the old or new Testament when the word Prophet signifieth a naked gifted man out of office in the Lords house for you have as good warrant for you to say there were lay-Apostles lay-Teachers lay-Governors who were gifted persons not in office as you have for lay-Prophets 3. Multitude of Prophets may consist with the time when Seers and foretellers of things revealed in visions were beginnings to cease even as the gifts of the holy Ghost given abundantly at the Pentecost Act. 2. 17. 18. Ioel 2. 28. did consist with the time when things concerning Christ must now have an end Luk. 22. 37. Luk. 24. 44. Robinsons 3. Argument is The Apostle in forbidding women to prophesie in the Church licenceth men 1. The Apostle in and for the worke opposeth the men to the women Sexe to Sexe and in forbidding women hee must license men when the holy Ghost opposeth faith and workes in the cause of justification and denyeth that we are justified by workes is not then the consequence good we are justified by faith 2. If in prohibiting women he gave not libertie to men where were the prerogative of men above women which is the onely ground upon which hee buildeth the prohibition 3. Ver. 34. 35. Women are not permitted to speake in the Church yet may they speake to their husbands at home now if the husbands might not speake in the Church more then the women what reason can be rendred of the Apostle his so speaking 4. The Apostle in the whole Chapter taketh order that some should prophesie in the Church and debarring women therefrom he must either admit men or then we have a third sort of Persons to prophesie who are neither men nor women Answ. Here is a great noyse of Arguments for just nothing and a faire sophisme concluding that secundum quid which should be concluded 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for we deny not but some men in office are permitted yea and commanded to prophesie in publick and we grant that Sex and Sex are opposed but the opposition made by Robinson is creeple and throwne-backed for all and every one of mankind are not permitted to prophesie as all and every woman is forbidden to prophesie or teach in the Church by the Lawes of France a woman may not sit on the Throne and sway the Scepter but friend can you say then the Lawes of France doth license any Frenchman whatsoever he be to sit on the throne and be King Mr. Robinson proveth men are licensed to preach Sed indefinita propositio in materia contingente ●quipollet particulari but he knoweth all men are not licenced to prophesie in publick for ungifted men are not sent of God and we say neither all gifted tradesmen never called by the Church nor educated in Schooles or sent of God to preach in the Church This he covereth and proveth never onely he setteth downe foure armies of Arguments to prove I know not what to prove forsooth that men may prophesie in publike and not women but who denyeth that And the similitude of faith and workes crooketh here for saving faith is opposed to all good workes whatsoever both in kind and individualls for wee are neither justified by good workes in specie nor by any one good worke in individuo but though all women be debarred from teaching in the Church yet are not all men licensed to teach in the Church but onely those say we who are called of God as was Aaron 2. I would bandy the Argument thus It is not permitted to women to administer the Sacraments Ergo It is permitted for any man though not a Prophet by office to administer the Sacraments The Antecedent is Pauls the consequence is yours and so all these foure Arguments prove not what is in question to with that Ergo a gifted person not in office may preach publickly Mr. Robinson addeth In restrayning women he sheweth his meaning to be of ordinary not of extraordinary Prophets because women immediatly and extraordinarily inspired might speak without restraint Exod. 15. 20. Jud. 4. 24. Luk. 2. 36. Act. 2. 17 18. Answ. Robinson cannot show that the same kind of prophecying in women v. 34. is taxed by Paul which is regulated in men v. 26 27 28. and therefore that connexion is denied hee restraineth women from ordinary prophecying in the temple Ergo he speaketh of the ordinary prophecying of men for 1. he compareth prophecying with tongues extraordinary with extraordinary and he desireth them to covet to prophesie ordinary he cannot meane for in all the Word you find not private professors are commanded to desire to bee ordinary Prophets for so God should command them to pray that they might leave their callings and stations contrary to 1 Cor. 7. 20. and give themselves to study sciences and tongues for if the holy Ghost command the meanes he must command the end and if hee command the end hee must command the meanes But v. 34. he setteth downe a new canon about women who tooke on them to prophesie publickly and hee inhibiteth so much as ordinary prophecying yea so much as speaking in the Church and I deny not but Irenaeus Eusebius yea and Tertullian Cyrill Chrysostome Theophylactus with warrant teach that alwayes women extraordinarily inspired may prophesie for in that God immediately exalteth them above men But for ordinary prophecying in publick it is of morall equitie and perpetuall that the women should not teach for Adam was first formed this Paul bringeth as a morall argument against womens preaching His fourth Argument is from 29 and 32. verses Let the Prophets speake two or three and let the rest judge The Apostle cannot saith Robinson speake of extraordinary Prophets for they cannot erre but are infallible but the Prophets here spoken of are not infallible because they are to be censured
and their doctrine judged by the Prophets now if such could erre our faith were not immediately builded upon the doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles Answ. This is before examined by me the consequence is null for the holy Spirit saith Pareus did not dite all things which the Prophets spake they might have mixed in some thing of their owne Robinson saith that Paul could not have said if any thinke himselfe to be a Prophet c. let such an one acknowledge that the thing I wrote are the commandements of the Lord if these had beene extraordinary Prophets they should have knowne Pauls writings undoubtedly to have beene the Canonick word of God and could not have beene ignorant thereof Answ. This presupponeth that these extraordinary Prophets might have beene ignorant that the Apostles commandements was the commandements of the Lord which is not absurd for Nathan and Samuel were ignorant of Gods will in some points for Prophets see and know sometimes as men and sometimes as Prophets in the former they may erre in the latter they are infallible He subjoyneth The word of God came it to you or came it from you if the word of God came after a sort to the Corinthians and not from them then were they not immediatly and extraordinarily inspired whereas indeed the Word of God came from the Apostles Answ. This proveth not the point for hee condemneth the arrogancie of some immediately inspired Prophets Came the word of God from you that is are yee above the Apostle to whom the word of God was committed that it may bee preached to all the world that it might come from the Apostles to others Or came it to you onely as to the only Apostolick teachers that you neede no admonition but hence it followeth not but they were extraordinarily inspired Prophets for Peter might be rebuked though an Apostle a chief one Neither is it any imputation to Paul or to any who hath received the Spirit in measure to be censured It is true Canonick doctrine as it is such cannot be censured but the teachers thereof though infallible even Paul Act. 17. 10 11. and every spirit is to bee tried whether they be of God or no 1 Joh. 3. 1. yea to say that the Church cannot be builded upon the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles as Mr. Robinson saith pag. 68. if these Prophets extraordinary can erre or can bee subject to the censure and judgement of the Church is the very argument of Papists for they say that the Word of God borroweth authoritie quoad nos in respect of us from the Church and is to be beleeved because Peter Paul the Prophets and Apostles the then present Church say it is the Word of God So Stapleton as Whittakerne teacheth that Christ was the Sonne of God dependeth to our faith upon the testimony of John Baptist. See Bellarmine Gregorius de Valent. Gretser So three famous commentators say Jansenius Cardinalis Cajetan and Cardinalis Toletus But our Divines answer that the Word of God is true in it selfe and the authentick ground of our faith not because the Prophets and Apostles say it is the word of God not because Paul or an Angel from heaven saith it is so Gal. 1. 8. for even the Prophets and Apostles were but men and so their testimony not infallible but because God himselfe saith so See for this Rivetus Whittakerus Bucerus Calvinus yea and the Fathers most expressely say that the Prophets and Apostles are not the foundation of our faith nor their word because they were infallible but Gods word by their mouths and penne So Thea●●●lact Chrysostome Beda Ambrosius Occam and Gerson doe roundly acknowledge that their Popes word is not the foundation of faith quia Papa potest hereti●ari because the Pope may erre What because Samuel was deceived in calling Eliah the Lords annointed are not his bookes a part of canonick doctrine whereupon our faith is builded Lastly saith Robinson Pastors must preach and pray before they hee put in office otherwise they cannot bee tr●ed if they bee apt to teach as they must be 1 Tim. 3. 2. Tit. 1. 9. It is decreed that all may preach Ministers Teachers Elders Deacons and if there beam ex ipsa plebe any of the common people who would imploy their gift for the good of the Church and it is practised in the Colledges where all must preach though they were never Priests Answ. 1. It is lawfull that these ayming at the office 2. Brought up in humane sciences 3. Called by the Church preach by way of tryall before they be admitted to the office but hence it cannot be concluded that tradesmen and artificersvoyd of learning and ignorant of the Scriptures should preach not for try all or as ayming at the office of the Ministery but as ordinary ministers of the conversion of soules to the faith and that without any calling of the Church either to the office or to the degree preparatorie to the office 2. All gifted should preach yea and in England ought to bee put in office where there is a reading ministery which Christ never ordained to bee in his house and this the harmony of confession and Synods teach and no more It is a fault that in Colledges all doe preach whether Christ hath called them or not such unsent runners Mr. Robinson cannot approve Ambrose saith at the beginning it was granted that all should preach and baptize that the Church might grow and Origen said the same But otherwise Hieronymus saith it is praesumptio temeritatis a rash presumption for any to preach who are not sent and Theophylact calleth them false Prophets Augustine will have them all to come before Christ and so to bee theeves and robbers who commeth not sent Sicut Moses Prophet● as Moses and the Prophets were sent Coachman saith if preaching be tyed to the ministery and that order there shall neither bee faith nor grace in a Church where there is no ministery Answ. It followeth not for faith may come by reading by conference and you expone Rom. 10. 14. As Arminians and Socinians doe 2. We as Embassadors pray you in Christs stead to be reconciled 2 Cor. 5. 20. Ephes. 4. 11. 1 Cor. 12. 29. Are all Prophets Ergo would you say no reconciliation in a land without apostolick Ambassadors It followeth not ex negatione unius medii for then there should be no grace nor salvation where there be none of your lay-Preachers Coachman Knowledge judgement utterance with gravitie authoritie power maketh a man a Minister whether he be in office or not Preaching is accidentall to the office and no part of the office but onely an ornament or appendix of it a Minister is in full office of the order of Priesthood though he never preach an office maketh not a Preacher it maketh him onely such
or any where in the which all the people did actually judge rule and command and so was meerely popular But the Word of God giveth a reall superiority to the Pastors and Church guides over the people in the Lord as Jer. 1. 10. So I have set thee this day over the Nations and over the Kingdomes to roote out and to pull downe and to destroy and to throw down to build and to plant here is a reall authority given to Jeremiah onely by his office of his prophecying without any power of the seales or sacrificing or judging or governing which was the part of the Tribe of Levi of which Tribe Jeremiah was not Matth. 10. v. 40. He who receiveth you receiveth me Luke 10. 16. He that heareth you heareth me he that despiseth you despiseth me and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me John 13. 20. 2 Cor. 10. 8. For though I should boast something of the authority which the Lord hath given us for edisication and not for your destruction I should not be ashamed 1 Cor. 4. 1. Let a man so account of us as of the Ministers of Christ and of the Stewards of the mysteries of God John 20. 23. Whose soever sinnes yee remit they are remitted and whose sinnes yee retaine they are retained 2 Cor. 5. 18. And he hath given to us the word of reconciliation 20. Now then wee are Ambassadours for Christ 1 Cor. 12. 28. And God hath set some in the Church first Apostles secondly Prophets c. Eph. 4. 11. And he gave some Apostles c. 1 Thes. 5. 12. And we beseech you brethren to know them which labour among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you Heb. 13. 17. Obey them that have the rule over you and submit your selves for they watch for your soules as they that must give an account Acts 20. 28. Take heed therefore unto your selves and to all the flocke over which the Lord hath made you Overseers to feed the Church of God which he hath purchased with his owne bloud 1 Pet. 5. 2. Feed the flock of God which is among you taking the over-sight thereof not by constraint c. 1 Tim. 3. 2. A Bishop then must be blamelesse c. 4. One that ruleth well his owne house c. 1 Tim. 5. 17. Let the Elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour v. 21. 28. 2 Tim. 2. v. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. Tit. 1. 9 10 11. 2. The Lord in his house putteth a difference betwixt the Feeders and the flocke the Governours and the governed those who are over the people in the Lord and those who are under them in the Lord the Overseers and Watchmen and the City over which they watch the Stewards and the family therefore there must be a peculiar authority in those who are Elders 3. The flock is to obey heare follow in the Lord to have the Elders in high estimation to submit to their doctrine to receive them as Christ Ergo some authority they must have 4. The Lord hath given to them an over-sight Act. 20. 28. and hath committed to them a ministery 2 Cor. 5. 15. hath put them in his worke and ministery 1 Tim. 1. 12. 5. God will seeke an account of the bloud of the lost at their hand Ezech. 3. 20. Heb. 13. 17. and God giveth a reward for the discharge of their office 1 Pet. 5. 4. 2 Tim. 4 8 Matth. 24. v. 45. 46. Ergo they must have a place of authority over the people which the people have not 6. The proportion betwixt the priesthood in the Old Testament and the ministery of reconciliation which is more excellent and glorious 2 Cor. 3. 7 8. requireth the same Now the Lord in a peculiar manner choosed the Tribe of Levi Deut. 33. 8 9. Esay 52. 11. Num. 3. 12. v. 45. ch 8. v. 6. Separate the Levites to me ch 18. 23. Josh. 3. 3. 1 Chron. 15. 2. Josh. 14. 3. 8. But let our Author speake what peculiar authority or what singular acts of authority are due to the Elders above the people The Church saith he exerciseth severall acts of authoritie over the Elders 1. In calling and electing them to office and ordaining them in defect of the Presbytery I answer 1. Calling and electing are not to be confounded electing is no act of authority but that the people calleth and ordaineth the Elders wanteth example in the word of God and therefore the Author addeth that the people ordaineth the Elders in defect of their Presbytery that is where there is no Presbytery then in case of extraordinary necessitie and where the Church is not constituted they are to ordaine the Elders but in a Constitute Church the power of ordination is in the Presbytery Ergo ordinarily the people doe not exercise this authoritie over the Elders 2. The Church of beleevers saith the Author sendeth forth the Elders for the publick service of the Church as the whole Church of Jerusalem sent forth chosen Ministers with letters of instruction to Antioch and to other Churches Act. 15. 22. Now the Ambassadour is not greater then he that sent him but usually inferiour Joh. 13. 16. Answ. 1. I deny not but a Church of beleevers in the least Congregation is greater then any Pastor or number of Pastors as they are such for the Pastors are servants for the Church and meanes for the end and lesse and inferior in respect of Christian dignity but this is not the point wee doe not now dispute of Christian dignitie one redeemed soule in that respect is of more worth then a thousand Pastors as they are but meere Pastors but because the Church sendeth the Elders the Elders are a part and a great part of the visible Church which also send themselves but it proveth not the Peoples Church authority as they are contradistinguished from Elders to be superior and above the authority of Elders for here the comparison must not be betwixt one or two Elders and the Church including all the people and the rest of the Elders but the comparison is betwixt spece and spece the office and dignitie and authoritie of the Elders as Elders and the people as people and the Church of Jerusalem was not a Parishionall but a Presbyteriall Church consisting of many Elders and Congregations now we deny not two Elders to be inferior in authoritie to the whole Colledge of Elders and people and so there is no authoritie of the people above the Elders from this proved 2. Morton answereth Papists in the like argument that sending proveth onely that those who are sent are not superiors to those who sent them for the Father sent his Sonne into the world 3. Saith the Author if an Elder or a whole Eldership erre the Church may call him or them to account and in case of obstinacie excommunicate them for it is not reason that Elders should want the medicine of excommunication to save their soules
bee sometimes physice impossible because of the corruption of mans nature there being bloody warres in Christendome yet it is morally lawfull for many things may bee inconvenient through mans wickednesse and so hic nunc not expedient which are morally lawfull 2. Conclusion Every particular Pastor hath a power though unproper of dominion and authoritie even out of a Synod about the Acts of preaching and determining truth according to the word of God as Jer. 1. 10. See I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdomes c. 1 Tim. 6. 17. Charge them that are rich that they bee not high minded c. 2 Tim. 4. 1. I charge thee before God and the Lord Jesus Christ who shall judge the quick and the dead c. So any Pastor hath power of dominion and authoritie over a Synod and Paul as a Pastor might preach even before the councell at Jerusalem passed their Synodicall determination Act. 15. that circumcision was not necessary and that to obstaine from things strangled from blood and fornication was necessary and lawfull yea and in preaching truth the Pastor is subject to no Synod But the Pastor hath not full power of jurisdiction about his acts of preaching necessary truth 1. Because the Church may for just causes deprive him from preaching 2. Because hee cannot use the censure of excommunication against those who refuse to receive his true and necessary doctrine without the Church joyne her power of jurisdiction with him 3. He his alone cannot in a Synod determine ecclesiastically and in an authoritative Church power that same truth which as a Pastor hee determined and with the power of pastorall dominion hee pressed upon the consciences of the Church yea of the whole Synod because one man is not the Church or Synod and James his alone Act. 15. v. 15. could but say Wherefore my sentence is that yee trouble not them which from among the Gentiles are turned unto God though this was the very word of God which James as a Pastor even as an ordinary Pastor might have preached in the name of God yet is it not the decree of the Church which the Churches is to keep Act. 16. 4. while it bee determined by the Church An example wee may have possible not unlike to this A man hath a power of dominion over his owne proper lands and goods to use them in God for his owne use but the supreme magistrate and Parliament hath a dominion of jurisdiction in a judiciall sentence over those same lands to forfeit them for crimes committed against King and State or this may cleare it Samuel hath a power immediately from God to annoint David King and in this hee is not subject to the suffrages of the tribes of Israel hee hath a power of dominion here but suppose wee that Samuel live till Gods time when all Israel shall crowne David King at Hebron Samuel as a part of the Assembly of Israel his alone without the suffrages of Israel could not make him King at Hebron Hence wee may see how weake the assertion of our brethren is who say That Synods should have power to bind the Churches say they wee see not Bellarmine indeed holdeth so But orthodox writers hold that the sentence of councels is but a certaine inquisition of the truth and a ministeriall and limited sentence so that the decree of a councell is of as great force as the reason thereof so saith Amesius and Junius But certainly this is a meer mistake of our brethren as if they were not orthodox writers but conspirers against the truth with Bellarmine who hold the authoritie of Synods The essentiall end to speak so of Synods is unitie and the eschewing of schisme and wee doubt not but Peter Paul James had in their Sermons and doctrine determined that same veritie to wit that the Law of Moses and ceremonies was a yoak not to bee laid upon the Christian Churches yet it was not a decree for unities sake and fuller authoritie binding the Churches to observe these as Act. 16. 4. while it was determined in a Synod Act. 5. 24. 25. But truely wee hold nothing in this common with Jesuites and Papists for wee condemne not that in Bellarmine that hee holdeth that lawfull Synods for of such wee dispute with him do bind the Churches to obedience in God to their decrees not because they say it but because they say it authoritatively from Gods Word authoritie of Synods no orthodox writers deny authoritie officiall as the representative Church of Christ they have He that heareth you heareth mee hee that despiseth you despiseth me Where two or three are gathered together in a Synod say our Divines I will bee amongst them But authoritie objective they have not so as what they say because they say it therefore the very matter object and thing said by them is no lesse the Word of God then if the Prophets and Apostles by divine inspiration had said it at least it is not infallibly true because they say it for that wee disclaime and it is that authoritie of Synods which Bellarmine and Papists hold Councells saith Bellarmine and Scripture are both infallible and the Jesuits of Rhemes and Lorinus the Jesuite said councells are infallible the holy Spirit is there present Gratian said all the decretall Epistles of Popes and the Canons of the Councells are of equall authoritie with the Scriptures and their Gregorius said hee received with the same reverence and authoritie the foure generall Councells the foure Evangelist● it is certaine saith Suarez that a Councell is an infallible rule of faith and Turrecremata saith the same It is certaine saith Bailius Councells are ●● the Oracles of God to us in difficulties so saith Cajetanus Canus and Gregorius de Valentia wee hold the authoritie of Councels but ascribe to them as much power over the conscience as there is reason in them from Gods Word and no more But 2. This is a weake reason councels have no power to command obedience because their Canons and Decrees are of no more force then they have reason from Gods Word For 1. Friends brethren equals by that have no warrant to rebuke because their rebukes have but as much force as they have reason from the word of God for the reason is alike in both lawfull Pastors cannot command obedience in the Lord your independent Congregations cannot command that which bindeth the Church to obedience because the word or a commandement of a Pastor or your independent Church is onely a commandement ministeriall and limited and hath as much force as there is reason in it from the Word of God yea the Church of Corin●h hath not then the power of the Lord Jesus to excommunicate the incestuous person nor the Church of Thyatira to cast out and condemne Jezabell the false prophetesse nor do these commandements of the Synod
or Church assembly have any power to bind the Churches to obedience because these commandements and decrees of censure are but ministeriall and limited and in so farre onely of force as they have reason from the Word of God as you say 3. Conclusion There is an authoritative power in Synods whereby they may and doe command in the Lord the visible Churches in their bounds the whole Churches are subject to the ordinance and decree of the Church Act. 1. where with common consent of a Synodicall meeting Matthias is ordained an Apostle Ergo all the Churches are to take him for an Apostle This argument cannot bee repelled because the Apostles by their extraordinary power did choose Matthias Because 1. they themselves cite this place to prove the peoples power ordinary which is to indure to Christs second comming in calling and electing their owne officers and Elders 2. Almain a Papist alleadgeth the place with good reason to prove that a generall councell is above Peter or the Pope because Peter would not choose Matthias without consent of the Apostles and Church 3. If this was extraordinary that Matthias was chosen why then is the vow and consent of the Church sought for there is nothing extraordinary and Apostolick flowing from an Apostolick spirit which is concluded or done by the spirit ordinary of the Church of beleevers So also Act. 6. If the Apostles did not by the ordinary and Synodicall power of ordinary Pastors choose seven Deacons how doe they first require that the Churches of Grecians and Hebrewes should seek out seven men v. 3. and did ordaine them with the common consent of the whole multitude v. 5. Act. 15. A Synod of moe Churches give decrees which obliege the Churches v. 28. ch 16. v. 4. Ergo Synods have authoritie over the Churches Those who say this Synod is not a patterne for after Synods say farre aside for their reason is this was 1. An Apostolick Synod 2. the holy Ghost was here 3. the thing determined was canonick Scripture But this is a way to clude all the promises made to Pastors in the word when as they are first made to Apostles this promise Behold I am with you to the ●nd of the world and this I will send you the other Comforter who 〈◊〉 lead you in all truth cannot bee made to faithfull Pastors and the Christian Church that now is for it is certaine Christ is otherwise present with his Apostles then with his Pastors after them And that he gave them a tongue a spirit when they were before the councels and rulers as to Apostolick men as Act. 4. 8. 9 10. Act. 5. 29. as Christ promised Matth. 10. 19. 20. Luk. 21. 13 14 15. for they were full of the holy Ghost before rulers but by our brethrens doctrine it shall follow none of these promises belong to Pastors now adayes in the like because no pastors now are Apostles Surely this were to fetter and imprison many glorious promises within the pale of the onely Apostolick Church and because Christ ascending to heaven sent downe the Apostolick spirit to his Apostles to write and preach canonick Scripture it shall follow he fulfilleth that promise John 16. 13. to none now adayes because none have the Apostolike spirit in the manner and measure that the Apostles had Yea further it is canonick Scripture that the Apostles at the last supper did shew forth the Lords death till be come againe therefore it shall follow that we have no warrant to shew forth the Lords death till he come againe 2. But that the Apostles in an ecclesiastick way did determine in the Synod for our imitation and not in an Apostolike way is cleare by many evidences in the text as Act. 15. 2. Paul and Barnabas were sent commissioners to the Apostles and Elders about this question Paul as an Apostle needed not be sent to know more of the matter then he knew as an Apostle for as an Apostle he knew the whole mystery of the Gospel Gal. 1. 16. 17. Ephes. 3. 4 5. Ergo he was sent to the Synod as a Pastor and that as an ordinary Pastor 2. They came together v. 6. to consider of this businesse but as Apostles they needed not the help of a Synod Ergo they came together as ordinary Pastors for the Churches after imitation 3. There was much debating and disputing v. 7. about the matter 4. They set down their minds and sentences in order one after another as Peter first v. 7. 8. then Barnabas and Paul v. 12. then James v. 13. and to James his sentence the whole Councell agreeth v. 22. Now what the Apostles as Apostles and from an infallible Spirit do they doe it not by seeking light and help one from another 5. The Decree of the Councell is a thing that Apostles Elders and Brethren and the whole Church resolveth after much dispute v. 22. But all these especially brethren and the whole beleevers as our Brethren say doe not joyne themselves with the Apostles either to write canonick Scripture or to give their consent to the writing of it therefore they doe consent by a synodall authority for the after imitation of the Churches Also there bee reasons of moment for Synods and 1. if according to the Law of nature and nations no man can bee a Judge in his owne cause then are appeales from the Eldership of one congregation when they are a party to the accused person naturall and from a Session to the Presbyteries and Synods of many moe Elders But the former is reason nature Law of Nations Ergo so is the latter 1. It is best reason which hath most of Scripture Paul and Barnabas Act. 15. 1. 2. had no small disputation with those who said circumcision was necessary finding their parties could not be Judges They appeale to a generall councell at Jerusalem where were the Apostles and Elders The Church of the Grecians and the Church of the Hebrewes strive neither of them can judge other and both appeale to a higher judicatory to the twelve Apostles and their owne Churches meeting with them and there is the matter determined a●ent helping the poore by Deacons if the Judge doe wrong and one particular congregation shall oppresse one sincere and sound beleever what remedy hath the care of Christ provided for this that the oppressours may be edisied by Church censures and the oppressed freed and delivered by remedy of discipline of Christ whose it is to judge the poore of the people and to save the children of the needy Ps. 72. 4. Now it is knowne that Diotrephes doth sometime excommunicate and the evill se●vant ruleth all Hieronymus saith Arrians ruled all in the dayes of Constantius and Valens Basil saith we may say in our time that there is neither Prince nor Prophet nor Ru●●● nor oblation nor incense Athanasius and Vincentius Lirinent complain'd that it was in the Arrians times as with the Church and Prophets in the
review of the councell of Trent saith gravely It is but a theating of Christ●ndome above board to leave the judgement of the necessitie of generall councells to the Popes will and no marvell then Popes decline councells for the councell of Pisan as Bellarmine granteth was convocated against Julius the second that wicked man and therefore was rejected by Julian the second in the councell of Lateran yet this councell and all the decrees thereof was approven and confirmed by Alexander the first who was accounted lawfull Pope and b Platina faith this councell was approved and that in it Gregory 12. and Benet 13. were deprived of their papall dignitie all nations assenting except neither Spaine the King of Scotland and Earle of Arminac who followed Pope Benet and for approbation of the councells of Pise Constance and Basil which censured Popes and deprived them and subjected them to a generall councell let any man read the Review of the Councell of Trent and Bellarmine is therein fully consuted Also generall councells have condemned the doctrine of the Church of Rome for which they thinke them not necessary as the councell of Frankford saith Bellarmine and Basil and Constance are not approved in all because they favour not the Roman Churches doctrine and the Popes supremacy above Councells yea and generall councells cannot bee simply necessary saith hee because the Catholick Church remained safe the first three hundreth yeers after Christ without generall councells and might have remained safe other three hundreth yeers and so a thousand yeers and faults may bee amended by the Lawes of Popes and by provinciall councells saith hee and their Costerus saith the Pope him selfe without councells hath condemned many heresies and this is a shorter and more compendious way then by councells for it is hard and laborious to conveene councells therefore the Churches salvation doth not depend upon them saith Bellarmine yea it is in vaine saith the Jesuit Pererius to doe that by many which may as conveniently bee done by fewer he meaneth councels may be wanted Our brethren rejecting councells and their necessitie at all in this sideth with Papists Though Calvin saith Nullum esse nec melius nec certius remedium that there is no better nor surer remedy to find out the truth then a Synod of true Pastors And Arminians and Socinians thinke that Synods are neither necessary nor profitable for as our brethren here give no authoritie to Synods but to counsell and advise the very same is taught by a grand Arminian Episcopius who saith Synods are not profitable for the establishing the truth or rooting out of errors and heresies but onely to advise sist examine and by reasons and arguments to perswade and therefore are not profitable either for the being or for the well being of the Church Synodici conventus nec ad ●esse nec ad bene esse ecclesiae absolute necessarii sunt ad veritatis divinae stabilimentum hereseon errorumque averruns itionem vel exstirpationem eo tantum casu utiles esse statuimus si ad deliberandum ventilandum examinandum rationibus argumentisque persuadendum congregentur litium finem facere circa religionis capita aliter quam persuadendo est tyrannidem in ecclesiam invehere libertatem conscientiarum si non omnino tollere saltem vehementer astringere ligare To ●nd controversies in the Church any otherwise then by perswading is to bring in a tyranny in the Church of Christ and to hurt if not altogether to evert the libertie of consciences of men And the Arminians in their Apologie teach us that a decision or a determination of a Synod obligeth not those who were not present at the making of that decision And so have I shown from Answorth and our brethrens doctrine that they teach people cannot assent without tyranny of consciences to the decrees of the Elders at the making whereof they were not present and present consenters 2. A Synods decision doth incline the mind to consider of the decision but doth not compell authoritatively to consent and obey 3. This is violence to the conscience 4. To setch expositions of the word from confessions of faith or decrees of councells is dangerous and this is the doctrine of Socinians for Theophil Nicolaides saith the Church in a Synod cannot decide controversies because shee may erre neither can shee take them away for that were to doe violence to mens consciences and Smalcius saith this were tacite quietly to leave the writings of the Apostles and commend humane traditions So our brethren give nothing but a power of counselling and morall perswading to Synods and no authoritie to command because say they in their answers to the 32. questions Synods may erre and their decrees have no more force then they fetch reason from Gods Word and truely our brethren with Socinians and Arminians here do fall in many foule errors For 1. all preaching of the Word and all power of authoritie of Pastors commanding in the name of the Lord faith and obedience is onely morall and to perswade and not authoritative to command because Pastors may as well erre in preaching as the Church may erre in Synods 2. Because what Pastors preach hath no more force over the conscience then they have warrant to speake from the Word of God as is cleare Ezek. 3. 7. Gal. 1. 9. 1 Thess. 2. 13. 2. All confessions of faith that are set downe by lawfull Synods are null 3. Libertie of prophecying and a Cassandrian licence of beleeving in things controverted any thing in this or on that side is lawfull 4. A perpetuall doubting of conscience except in two or three points fundamentall that all Christians beleeve yea and all hereticks is brought in in the Church 5. The Lords working with the word preached is but by way of morall perswasion 6. But our Divines hold the authoritie of Synods and of Pastors preaching the Word from the Scriptures but I find both our brethren and Arminians do misken the authority of the Church and of Pastors in both Preaching and Synods for they thinke to set up the authoritie of Synods is to cast downe the authoritie of the Scriptures because things to bee distinguished are confounded for wee deny that Synods or Pastors have peremptory absolute and illimited authoritie and power to determine as they please in Sermons and Synods their Power is limited according to the Word of God and their word is onely to bee beleeved in so farre as it is agreeable to the Word of God but hence it followeth not that Pastors and Synods have no power and authoritie at all to determine but onely to counsell advise and perswade for private Christians our equalls and inferiours have power to counsell perswade and advise in a private way by teaching admonishing exhorting rebuking conference They build upon the reproving of events of councells by
changeth not he can reveale no contradictory truths for one of them must be a lie and he is the Lord who cannot lie Answ. Then I say these non-fundamentals are in themselves and intrinsecally certaine and if God reveale them in his Word he must reveale them under the notion of things certaine and we are to beleeve them as certaine truths having intrinsecall necessity in themselves from the authority of God the revealer therefore I am not to beleeve them with a fluctuation of mind to casheere the truth of them to morrow and the next and the third morrow But you say I doe beleeve non-fundamentals as they are revealed now they are not revealed to me in the word in that measure and degree of clearnesse and evidence of light that fundamentall points of faith are revealed therefore I may lawfully beleeve these non-fundamentals which are lesse evidently revealed with a reserve that upon the supposall I see I had an error of judgement in taking them to be truths whereas now I see them to be untruths I doe renounce them but because fundamentals are clearely revealed I am to beleeve them without any reserve at all Answ. The degrees of revelation and proposals of truths to our minds lesse or more evident or lesse evident so they be revealed by God in a sufficient measure of evidence they free us from obligation of faith in tanto non in toto as is cleare John 15. 22. If I had not come to them they should not have had sinne the sin of unbeliefe and in such a measure yet if God reveale these non-fundamentals though not so perspicuously as he revealeth fundamentals we are obliged to know them and beleeve them with certainty of faith and upon this formall reason because Jehovah speaketh them in his word no lesse then we are obliged to know and beleeve fundamentals for our dulnesse and blindnes of mind doth not licence us to beleeve what God revealeth to us in his Word with an 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and a fluctuation of mind no more then the naturall man is licenced to beleeve the fundamentals of the Gospel with doubting because they come in under the capacity of his understanding as foolishnesse 1 Cor. 2. 14. But say you upon supposall that our darkened hearts doe not see these non-fundamentals clearely we are obliged to take their meaning and sense with a reserve and so to receive and entertaine the truths of these non-fundamentals as we leave roome upon supposall of our misapprehensions to retract our judgement and to beleeve the contrary of what we once beleeved and this bindereth not but that we are simply and absolutely obliged to beleeve the non-fundamentalls Answ If we be simply and absolutely obliged to beleeve non-fundamentals though they be not so clearely revealed to us as the fundamentals as no doubt we are then doe we contrary to the morall obligation of a divine precept and so sinne in beleeving with a doubting and hesitation of that which God hath revealed in his word and when we beleeve Gods truth with a reserve to retract our judgement when a cleare light shall make naked to us our error that revealed error if revealed to be an error by the Lord speaking in his word doth clearely evince that God never revealed nor meant to reveale in his Word the former truth that was beleeved with a reserve for God cannot reveale things contradictory and out of the mouth of the Lord commeth no untruth therefore God in these non-fundamentals revealeth to us but one thing to be beleeved and that absolutely without all reserves for God can no more shine with a new light to delare the contradicent of what he hath once revealed as truth then he candeny himselfe or lie which to assert were high blasphemy and if the first truth of the non-fundamentall doe onely appeare truth to our understanding and be no such thing but in it selfe an untruth then doth the God of truth reveale no such thing 2. Upon supposall that we see not the truth of these non-fundamentals clearly we are neither to beleeve with a reserve nor to beleeve them absolutely nor yet are we to suspend our beliefe because I conceive all the three to be sinfull and we are never obliged to sinne but we are obliged to know and beleeve simply without all reserve having laid away our darke and confused conscience and are to know clearely and beleeve firmely that God speaketh this not this in his Word nor because I doe fluctuate about the truth of these non-fundamentals am I obliged to follow in non-fundamentals the endictment of a fluctuating conscience seeing holding the plenitude and plenary perfection of Gods Word the Lord hath no lesse manifested his will in setting downe superstructures and non-fundamentals in his Word then he hath revealed his mind to us in fundamentals But our Brethren prove that we may tolerate one another in diverse and contrary opinions about non-fundamentals from Phil. 3. 15. Let us therefore as many as be perfect be thus minded and if in any thing yee be otherwise minded God shall reveale this unto you 16. Neverthelesse whereunto we have already attained let us walke by the same rule let us mind the same thing Now there is nothing more opposite to this rule then the practises of some who will exclude and allow communion in nothing where there is difference in anything The labours of Davenant and others in this needfull case of syncretisme and pacification in those times are very seasonable I answer I distinguish three things that may be judged the object of syncretisme or mutuall toleration 1. Fundamentalia fundamentall points 2. Supra circa fundamentalia things that are builded on the foundation or superstructures or things about the foundation as many positive and historicall things that cannot result by good consequence off or from the foundation as that there were eight soules in Noahs Arke and some rituals of Gods institution in the Sacrament of the Supper and Baptisme c. 3. Praeter fundamentalia things meerely physicall not morall having no influence in Gods worship at all as such a day for meeting of an Assembly of the Church Wednesday rather then Thursday a cloake when you pray in private rather then a gowne these have or contribute of themselves no morall influence to the action as in what corner of your Chamber you pray in private these are meerely indifferent and tolerance in these I would commend It is true there is a strict connexion often betwixt the physicall and the morall circumstances so as the physicall circumstance doth put on by some necessity a morall habitude and respect and then the physicall circumstance becommeth morall as in what corner of your Chamber you pray it is meerely physicall and indifferent but if that corner that you pray in cast you obvious to the eyes of those who are walking in the streets that they may see and heare your private prayers then the place putteth on the
morall respect of a savour of some Pharisaicall ostentation that you pray to be seene of men and so the circumstance now is morall and is to be regulated by the Word whereas the circumstance that is meerely physicall is not as it is such in any capacity to receive scripturall regulation nothing is required but a physicall convenience for the action Now for fundamentall superstructures for things about the foundation in so farre as they have warrant in the Word to me they oblige to faith and practises in so farre as the Lord intimateth to us in his Word either expressely or by good consequence that they are lawfull Now I may adde to these that there be some things adjacent circumvenient circumstantiall to these fundamentals superstructions and others that I named wherein mutuall tolerance is commendable Nor doe we thinke any Church Reformation so perfect as that reformers have not left it in some capacity more or lesse of receiving increase and latitude of Reformation but truely I doe not see the consequence that therefore in all points not fundamentall the conscience must be of that compliable latitude of Kid-leather to take in and let out so as none of these superstructures or non-fundamentals are to be beleeved but with a reserve that you take them to day as Gods truths and are in capacity to beleeve their contradicents to be Gods truth to morrow And for the place Phil. 3. 14. 15. The sense given by Zanchius pleaseth me We that are reputed perfect let us all think and mind this truth that I write to contend for the price of the high-calling of God and if any mind any other thing contrary to or diverse from my doctrine God in his owne time shall reveale it to him Zanchius saith Deus id quoque revelabit suo tempore nempe an falsum sit vel verum God shall reveale it to him in his owne time whether it be true or false to which part I doe not subscribe that God shall reveale to any other minded then Paul whether his doctrine be true or false for that may inferre a possibility that Paul taught in this point or in the matter of ceremonies something false but the meaning is God shall make him know by the revelation of truth that what I have taught is true and he addeth as Zanchius Estius Cornelius à Lapide S●lmeron yea our owne Calvine Marlorat and others upon this condition that they walke with us in peace and concord according to the 〈◊〉 the Gospel and that these words are a condition I beleeve because Christ saith John 7. 17. If any man will doe his will he shall know of the doctrine whether it be of God or whether I speake of my selfe But I see nothing here that reacheth the conclusion that we deny it will beare this indeed if any man be otherwise minded and thinke that Paul hath not delivered sound doctrine either concerning our pressing forward toward the prise of the high calling of God in Jesus Christ or concerning ceremonies that is if any man beleeve untruths contrary to Pauls doctrine let him beleeve these untruths leaving roome to Gods light to bow downe under truths feet when God shall reveale that Pauls doctrine is true and that his thoughts diverse from Pauls doctrine was misapprehensions and errours but there is nothing here that if any beleeve true non-fundamentals he is to beleeve them with a reserve that if God with a new light shall appear to discover these truths to be untruths he shall change his mind Now the supposition is vaine and as unpossible as to say God can contradict and belie his owne truth nor is there any word of toleration of Sects in the text Yea but say they Paul professeth to walke according to the rule to which they 〈◊〉 all attained with those who are contrary minded Ergo we are to tolerate and to keepe peaceable communion with those who are contrary minded in opinions and disagree from us Answ. Marke I pray you that Paul doth not say he will walke with them and keepe communion with them simply but onely 1. while God shall reveale their error and by his light make them see that Pauls doctrine is true 2. So in other things they be of one minde with Paul as perfect men should be and so I thinke Paul doth indeed condemne separation and breach of love for diversity of opinions in some things and we doubt not but if the servant of the Lord should with gentlenesse instruct malicious opposers of the truth and wait on them to see if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledgment of the truth 2 Tim. 2. 24 25. farre rather should Paul walke with those that are perfect according to the same rule though they be of another mind but it followeth not that those who are of another mind from Paul should 1 obstinately continue in that mind after that God hath by writings and dispute convinced them of their error 2. It followeth not that their ob●tinate continuance in their error should alwayes be tolerated and never censured especially if it be such an error as causeth divisions and offences Rom. 16. 17. for then such should be avoided saith Paul in that same place 3. It followeth not that we are to beleeve no superstructures or non-fundamentals but with a reserve it is observable that Paul speaketh here of those who beleeve errors and doctrines contrary to Pauls doctrine Now consider then the force of the argument those who beleeve errors contrary to Pauls doctrine have no certainty of faith that what they beleeve is true and therefore must beleeve with a reserve leaving roome to new light therefore those who beleeve any true superstructures and any non-fundamentals have also no certainty of faith but must beleeve with a reserve that when light shall appeare they shall beleeve the contradicent of what they now beleeve there is no force in this connexion It is just like the question betwixt us and the Papists whether a man can be certaine with any divine and infallible certainty that he is in the state of grace and salvation Papists say hypocrites beleeve that they are in the state of grace and yet they have no certainty thereof Ergo say they the regenerate beleeving that they are in the state of grace can have no certainty This is a very ill consequence for a sleeping man is not certaine whether he be dreaming or waking Ergo a waking man knoweth not whether he be waking or not So a distracted man hath no certainty that he is as wise as seven men who can render a reason therefore a man sober in his wits knoweth not that he is in his sober wits these be poore and loose consequences It is true when we beleeve some alterable circumstances of some things rather about then in doctrine and discipline which are disputable and to us both sides have great probability we have not certainty of faith and possible here in
determinations on the contrary for it was certaine that the Word of God had refuted the necessitie of circum●ision and of observing Moses his Law as Peter James Paul Act. 15. doe strongly prove from the Word of God and the word of God condemned the eating of things strang●●● and of things sacrificed to Idolls in the case of scandall therefore none of sound judgement will inferre that the determination of a Synod such as is Act. 15. 22. is not necessary yea because the bookes of Moses condemned the Sadduces in their Epicurith opinion of denying the resurrection of the dead I hope it is not for that superfluous for Christ out of Moses his writings to determine and prove Matth. 22. that the dead must ●i●c againe you may by as good reason say nothing should bee determined in preaching nor in writings because all these are already determined in the Word by the Lord his Prophets and Apostles this shall close evert all ministery as S●inians doe especially now after the cannon of the Scripture is closed for they use the same very arguments against the necessitie of a ministery because now the Gospell is fully revealed there is no necessitie of a sent ministery as was in the Apostles time so teach Andr. Raddeccius Smalcius and the Arminians And lastly it is a vild abusing of Scripture to say that the accept th●e yeare of the Lord of which Christ speaketh Luk. 4. 18 1● is that Jubilee yeare of libertie of conscience to all sects of Papists Arminians Socinians Anabaptists c. 1. Because a libertie of hereticall and blasphemous opinions of God his nature worship and Word cannot bee the acceptable yeare of the Lord which Christ as Mediator came to proclaime Esa. 61 2. 5. for that is licence not libertie Christs acceptable yeare Fsiy 61. is the spirituall Jubilee of remission of sinnes and eternall redemption proffered in the Gospel and really bestowed upon the meeke the broken hearted the captives the prisoners the mourne●s in Zi●n and those whom Christ is sent to comfort and to clothe with the garments of praise but hee is not sent to comfort Macedonians Sabellians papists Socinians c. because they are Sectaries and doe adhere to their rotten and false grounds of divinitie for then libertie of conscience should have beene a mercy purchased by Christs death and Arius should obtaine by Christs death a power to bee an Arian and to deny the divinitie of Jesus Christ. 2. In the Hebrew 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ultio a revenging is an allusion to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 naeham consolatus est for this yeare was to the beleevers Nechama or consolation and to unbeleevers Nekama a revenge or a vengeance which cannot sort with sectaries 3. The acceptable yeare is as Paul expoundeth it 2 Cor. 6. 2. the acceptable time of the Gospell and the day of salvation and as Hugo Cardinalis expoundeth it well the time of the fulnesse of grace under the Gospel and that which is called Esay 49. 8. the day of salvation 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ratson the day of good will and so Beda Toletus Cyrillus and the Jesuit Salmeron and Glossa Ordinaria expoundeth it faith and salvation Procopius the day of the Lords incarnation as Hieronymus expoundeth the day of vengeance opposit thereunto to bee the day of damnation and Lyra the yeare of Christs suffering in which Christ is pleased with mankind Quest. III. Whether the Jesuited Lysimachus Nicanor and the Author of the Survey of Discipline doth with good reason impute ●● the Church-Government of the reformed Churches the eversion of the 〈◊〉 Magistrates power ●n matters ecclesiasticall There came to the light of day a night-peece of darkenesse Anno 1640. A Pamphlet by one Lysimachus Nicanor acting the person of a ●esuite but better resembling ● is nature against our blessed Reformation imputing to us Treason to Kings as the Popish author of the Survey had ledde the poore man both of these as Jesuites doe raile against Calvin Beza and the Geneva-discipline as Becanus Suarez Uasquez Bellarmine Gre●serus and other their Doctors and teachers doe leade them That I may adde to what I have said before I desire the reader to eye and consider these distinctions 1. Paraeus teacheth that there is a double Church-power one internall and proper as to preach hinde and loose to administrate the Sacraments c. This is not in the Prince and there is another improper and externall which is exercised about Church-matters and Church-officers and this distinction is grounded upon that saying of Constantine the Emperour to the Bishops as Eusebius relateth it 2. An externall power about matters ecclesiasticke is three-fold 1. A power of order and jurisdiction about the externall or rather in the externall acts of the Church which are visible and incurreth in the 〈…〉 as to preach baptize and these as saith that learned and worthy preacher at Middleburgh Guliel Apollonii doe properly pertaine to the spirituall and proper Church-government and without controversie doe not belong to the Prince 2. A power externall about Church-matters which is objective in respect of the object sacred or ecclesiastick but improperly and by a 〈◊〉 enely ecclesiasticke and essentially and in it selfe politick such as we hold to be the Magistrates power in causing Church-men doe their duty in preaching sound doctrine and administrating the Sacraments ●cording to Christs institution and punishing hereticks and false teachers 3. Some have devised a mixed power ecclesiastick as Henric. Salcobrigiensis whereby the Prince is the head of the Church and hath a nomotheticke and legislative power in things ecclesiasticall and this is not onely objective in respect of the object ecclesiasticall but also subjective in respect of the subject ecclesiasticall in respect that the Prince by vertue of his civill office as a King may ordaine Prelats and make Lawes in Church-matters Distinction 3. There is a twofold power in a King one in a King as a King this is alike in all and ordinary regall coactive whether the King be a Heathen a Turke or a sound beleeving Christian There is another power in a King as such a King either a King and a Prophet also or as a Propheticall King and this extraordinary power was in Solomon and David to write Canonicke Scripture and to prophecie and is not properly a Kingly power or there is in a King as such a King even as a Christian beleeving King an other power ordinary indeede but it is not a new regall power but potestas executiva a power or a gracious hability to execute the Kingly power that he had before as a King so Christianity addeth no new Kingly power to a King but onely addeth a Christian power to use inlarge and dilate the Kingly power that he had before Distinction 4. The Magistrate as a Magistrate is a politicke head and ruler of the Common-wealth but as
Church which I grant is true and the end of the Ruler should be onely preservation of peace and the externall tranquillity of the Common-wealth yea I say from the Word of God that externall peace is too narrow an end and it doth belong to the second Table the Kings end as Nurse-father and his a like care is to preserve the first Table and as a Nurse-father to see that the childrens milke be good and wholesome though the milke come not from his owne breasts and so his power hath a kingly relation to all the Word of God and not to externall peace and naturall happinesse onely And the King as the King his end is edification and spirituall good of soules also but alwayes by a kingly power and in a coactive way by the sword whereas the Church are in their care of edifying soules to use no such carnall weapons in their warfare 2 Cor. 10. 4. For which cause that learned P. Martyr and 〈◊〉 Parker and also the Professors of Leyden say that Ministers deale with consciences of men Quoniam Spiritus Sanctus inquit Martyr vim suam adjungit cum praedicationibus orthodoxis the holy Spirit conjoyneth the power and influence of grace with sound preaching and the Magistrate doth onely exercise externall discipline And Parker reasoning against Whitgift and 〈◊〉 proveth well that the Church visible though externall yet is Christs spirituall Kingdome and that Church discipline is a part of Christs spirituall Kingdome and that the externall government of Christ by discipline is spirituall every way according to the efficient 1 Cor. 12. 1. according to the end spirituall ●dification Ephes. 4. 12. according to the matter the Word and Sacraments 2 Cor. 10. 3 4. according to the forme of working by the evidence of the Spirit 2 Cor. 2. 4. 13. And this is the cause I conceive why great Divines have said the object of the Magistrates power as a Magistrate is the externall man and earthly things because he doth not in such a spirituall way of working take care of the two Tables of the Law as the Pastor doth and yet the spirituall good and edification of the Church in the right preaching of the Word the Sacraments and pure discipline is his end It is true whether the blasphemer professe repentance or not the Magistrate is to punish yea and to take his life if he in seducing of many have prevailed but yet his end is edification even in taking away the life for he is to put away evill that all Israel may feare and doe so no more but this edification is procured by the sword and by a coactive power and so the Church power and the kingly power differ in their formall objects and their formall ends But Spalato speaketh ignorantly of Kings Who saith as the internall and proper end of the Art of painting the Art of sailing c. is not life eternall but onely to paint well according to the precepts of Art and to bring men safe to their harborie though the persons who are painters and sailers may direct works of their Art to life eternall so saith he the end of the kingly Art is not life eternall but onely the externall peace of the Common wealth hence inferreth he that there is no subordinatim betwixt the power of the Magistrate and the power of the Church but that they are both so immediate under God as the Church cannot in a Church way regulate the King as a King but onely as he is a christian man the Church may rebuke the King while as he abuseth his kingly power to the destruction of soules and that the Church power as such is not subordinate to the kingly power onely the King may correct with the sword the Pastors not as Churchmen and Pas●ors but as men who are his subjects But 1. whereas it is certaine the King in respect of politick power is the immediate Vicegerent of God and above any subject in his Dominions so doth the Bishop make the Shoe-maker the Painter the master-fashioner immediate unto God and censurable by none as they are Artificers even as the King is censurable by none as King and so the King is dishonoured who by office is the Lords annoynted and a little God on earth Psal. 82. v. 1. 2 The intrinsecall end of kingly power is no more the advancing of godlinesse and the promoving of the Kings daughter towards life eternall by the sincere milke of the Word as the Lords Vicegerent and Nurse-Father of the Church then the Painter as a Painter or a Sea-man as a Sea-man is to advance godlinesse for this mans intrinsecall and is onely a safe harbour and shoare to temporall lives not the harbour of salvation to soules and his end is onely a faire Image of Art in Paper or Clay not the Image of the second Adam and by this the King as King is interdicted of any Church businesse or care of soules to be fed by the Word or Sacraments to keepe them cleane if he looke to any of these as an end that is not the eye or intention of the King as King but of the King as a godly Christian saith Spalato hence to care for the spirituall good of the Church and the promoving of the Gospel is as accidentall as to say an excellent Painter such as Ap●ies intendeth in his painting life eternall so the King by this looketh to the Law of God to Religion and the eternall happinesse of the Church by guesse by accident and as King hath neither chaire nor roome in Christian Synods nor a seat in the Church 3. If the meaning be that the King as King that is rightly exercisng the office of a King is subordinate to no Church power that is he cannot be justly and deservedly rebuked by Pastors that is most true but nothing to any purpose for so the Pastor as a Pastor Jeremiah as he doth truly and in the name of the Lord exercise the propheticall office cannot be deservedly censured nor punished either by the Church-synodrie or the King and Princes of the Land but thus way all members of the Church an I any one single beleever doing his duty should be as immediate and independent and highest next on earth to Christ as the King and his three Estates of the Honourable Parliament are in civill matters and as an Occumenick Councell or in our brethrens meaning independent Congregation which is against reason But if the meaning be the acts of a King as aberring from justice not as a King but as a fraile man may be censured and rebuked deservedly by Pastors in a Church way this way also the Pastor as a Pastor is not subject to the Church but onely as a fraile man and so nothing is said to the purpose in this more then the in the former But if the meaning be thirdly that which onely maketh good sense that the acts of the King abstracted from good or bad or as kingly or
answerable for soules Heb. 13. 18. 4. It is tyrannicall because it putteth power into the Magistrates hand to take from the Church that inbred and in●rinsecall power of externall and visible government over her selfe and members which all civill incorporations by instinct of nature have and the Magistrate as such not being a member of the Church hath a headship even being a heathen Magistrate over the redeemed body of Christ. 2. By this reason the Lord Jesus as King hath no Pastors in his name to use the ●●ves of his kingdom by binding and loosing for discipline being an externall thing say they is not a part of Christs kingly power but the King as Christs civill vicar hath this power but I say all acts of Christ as hee is efficacious by the Gospel to gaine soules are acts of Christ as powerfull by the Scepter of his Word and those who are his instruments to exercise these acts are subordined to him as King of the Church but Church-men by an externall ecclesiasticall power delivering to Satan and externally and visibly casting out of the Church that the spirit may bee saved in the day of the Lord are instruments subordined to Christ who is efficacious to save spirits by excommunication and to gaine soules by rebukes Gregorius Magnus saith those to whom Christ hath given the Keyes of his kingdome by these hee judgeth and why is this word the word of his kingdome the Scepter of his kingdome the sword that commeth out of his mouth by which hee governeth his subjects and subdueth nations so called but because Christs kingly power is with those whom hee hath made dispensators of his Word 9. Conclusion Nor hath the King power of ordaining Pastors or depriving them or of excommunication 1. All these are acts of spirituall and ecclesiasticall power 1 Tim. 3. 14. 1 Tim. 5. 22. Act. 6. 6. Act. 13. 3. Act. 14. 23. Tit. 1. 5 6. and flow from the power of the keyes given by Christ to his Apostles and their successors Matth. 28. 18 19 20. Mark 16. 14 15 16. Joh. 20. 21 22 23. Hence I argue to whom Christ hath given out his power as King of the Church Matth. 28. 18 19. power of the keyes Matth. 18. 18. Matth. 16. 19. and a commandement to lay hands and ordaine qualified men for the ministry and those who by the holy Ghosts direction practised that power by ordaining of Elders these onely have right to ordaine Elders and their successors after them but Apostles and their successors onely are those to whom Christ gave that power and who exercised that power as the places prove 2. Ordination and election both in the primitive Church of the Apostles was done by the Church and consent of the multitude Act. 1. Act. 6. 2 3 4. 5 6 c. but the civill Magistrate is neither the Church nor the multitude 3. Ordination is an act formally of an ecclesiasticall power but the Magistrate as the Magistrate hath no ecclesiasticall power Ergo hee cannot exercise an act of ecclesiasticall power 4. If ordination were an act of Kingly power due to the King as King then 1. The Apostles and Elders usurped in the Apostolick Church the office and throne of the King and that behoved to bee in them an extraordinary and temporary power but wee never find rules tying to the end of the world given to Timothies and Elders of the Church anent the regulating of extraordinary and temporary power that were against the wisedome of God to command Timothy to commit the Word to faithfull men who are able to teach others as 2 Tim. 2. 2. and to set downe the qualification of Pastors Elders Doctors and Deacons to Timothy as a Church man with a charge to keepe such commandements unviolable to Christs second appearing if Timothy and his successors in the holy ministry were to bee denuded of that power by the incoming of Christian Magistrates 2. The King by the laying on of his hands should appoint Elders in every citie and the spirits of the Prophets should bee subject to the King not to the Prophets as the word saith 1 Cor. 14. 32. 5. Those who have a Church power to ordaine and deprive Pastors must by office try the doctrine and be able to 〈…〉 sayers and to finde out the Foxes in their hereticall wayes and to rebuke them sharpely that they may bee sound in the faith but this by office is required of Pastors and not of the King as is evident 1 Tim. 3. 2. 2 Tim. 2. 2● Tit. 1. 9 10 11. It is not enough to say it is sufficient that the King try the abilities of such as are to bee ordained and the bontgates of hereticall spirits to bee deprived by Pastors and Church men their counsell and ministery and upon their testimony the King is to ordaine and make or exauthorate and unmake Pastors because 1. so were the King a servant by office to that which Church men shall by office determine which they condemne in our doctrine which wee hold in a right and sound meaning 2. He who by office is to admit to an office and deprive from an office must also by office bee obliged to bee such as can try what the office requireth of due to bee performed by the officer nor is it enough which some say that the ignorance of the King in civill things taketh not away his legall power to judge in civill things and by that same reason his ignorance in Church matters taketh not away his power to judge in ecclesiasticall matters for I doe not reason from gifts and knowledge that is in the King simply but from gifts which ●x●fficio by vertue of his Kingly office is required in him It is ●●ue as King hee is oblieged to read continually in the book of the Law of God Deut. 17. and to know what is truth what here●ie in so fa●re as hee commandeth that Pastors preach sound doctrine and that as a Judge hee is to punish heresie Some say hee is to have the knowledge of private discretion as a Christian that hee punish not blindly I thinke hee is to know judicially as a King 1. Because hee hath a regall and judiciall knowledge of civill things even of the major proposition and not of the assumption and fact onely Ergo seeing hee is by that same kingly power to judge of treason against the Crown the civill State by which he is to judge of heresie to punish heresie it would seeme as King hee is to cognosce in both by a kingly power both what is Law and what is fact 2. Because the judgement of private discretion common to all Christians is due to the King as a Christian not as a King but the cognition that the King is to take of heresie and blasphemy whether it bee heresie or blasphemy that the Church ●●●●eth heresie and blasphemy is due to the King as King because hee is a civill Judge therein and if the Church
both doth elect and choose the man yet so that he is not elected without the consent of the King or Magistrate in the Kings roome I answer many things are here to be replyed 1. That the King who may be borne an heire to an earthly Kingdome is also borne and by nature a mixt person and halfe a Minister of the Gospell is against Gods word ministers in whole or in part are made so of God not so borne by nature in Aaron● Priestha●d men by birth came to a sacred office but that is done away now in Christ. 2. With as good reason may the King preach and administer the Sacraments as a mixt person as he may ordaine by ecclesiasticall blessing imposition of hands ecclesiasticall designation any person to the Ministery that same auth nity of Christ which said to Timoth Lay hands suddainly 〈◊〉 man said also to him 2 Tim. 2. 15. Study to be approved unto 〈◊〉 a workeman that needeth not to be ashamed dividing the word right that is both ordaining of Ministers and pastorall preaching of the Word or pastorall acts flowing from an ecclesiasticall power How then can the one be given to the King by vertue of that same mixt power especially seeing baptizing it directly called 1 C●r 1. 17. a lesse principall worke of the ministery then preaching It it be said as ordination is performed by the King is not an ecclesiasticall action but civill or mixt partly civill partly ecclesiasticall I answer by that reason if the King should preach and administrate the Sacraments these actions should not be called ecclesiasticall actions and Uzzah's touching the Arke should not be called an action by office incumbent to the Levites only and it might be said the person being civill the actions are civill And Uzziah's burning of incense upon the Altar of incense was not a Priestly act but an act of a mixt power he was partly a King and partly a Priest who did performe the action but he was a Priest by sinfull usurpation in that action as we know 2. This answer is a begging also of the question 2. Whereas it is said that the Church ordainech Pastors and the King also but divers wayes the one by a regall power the other by me el●siasticall power I answer this is spoken to make the people ad saciendum populum for ejusdem potestatis est saith the Law constituere desti●●ere it is the same power to ordaine and to destroy The high-Commission by the Kings authority doth deprive Ministers without so much as the knowledge of the Church If then the King as King may deprive ministers without the notice of the Church then may the King as King also ordaine Pastors without the notice of the Church For the action of the instruments as such is more principally the actions of the principall cause 3 Election of a Pastor is farre different from ordination of a Pastor the whole multitude as Christians have voyces in the election of a Pastor and so hath the King or his Magistrate as a part and member of the Church but this giveth no negative voice to the Magistrate in election but ordination is not done by all the multitude it is a worke of authority done onely by the Church-officers 4. The coactive and civill degradation must have also correspondent thereunto a coactive and civill ordination of Pastors Now I ask what is a coactive ordination If it be the Kings royall and civill authority commanding that the Church officers ordaine Pastors at Christs commandement This we deny not they fight with a shadow or a night ghost not against us who contend for this But if they meane a coactive degradation by the Sword in banishing imprisoning yea and for just causes punishing Ministers to death with the Sword this indirect deprivation we doe not deny But so the King depriveth a man from being a Minister when he is beheaded or hanged or banished for civill crimes no other wayes but as he depriveth a man from being a Fashioner a Sai●●r a Plower a Souldier or a Father to his owne barnes a husband to his owne wife for when the man is beheaded or hanged by the sword of the Magistrate he is d●prived from being a fashioner a sailer a father a husband and Solomen did not other way deprive Abiathar from the Priest-hood then indirectly by consining him for treason at Anathoth so as he could not exercise the Priests office at Jerusalem So after Junius Calderwood Gul. Apollonius Sibrandus yea Muketus a man for the times denyeth that the Prince can take away that ecclesiasticall power that the Church hath given And so acknowledgeth Wedelius the same That reasonlesse lyer Lysimach Nicanor in this and in other things hath no reason to say we borrow Jesuites doctrine to answer this argument for the Jesuite Becanus is not ●nacquainted with Jesuits doctrine against the power of Kings yet he answereth that Solomen as King had no power over Abiathar for treason or any other crime and therefore following Bellarmine and Gretserus saith that Solomon did this by an extraordinary propheticall instinct yet Abulensis a great textuall Papist and B●naventura a learned Schooleman saith this p●oveth that the King is above the Priest and that Priests in the Old Testament were not eximed from the civill Judges sword and power this is very doubtsome to Suarez who ●aith that it was a temp●rall civill punishment of exi●e and that ●●●siti●n from the exercise of the Priests office followed upon the other But we neede not this answer for Solomons sentence containeth in t●rminis a meere civill punishment and these words 1 King 27. S. Solomon thrust out Abiathar from being Priest to the Lord seem not to be words of the Kings sentence of banishment but are relative to the fulfilling of the Lords word and a consequent of divine justice relative to the prophesie against Elies house Though verily I see no inconvenience to say that Solomon did indeed deprive him from the Priest-hood by an extraordinary instinct of the Spirit as he was led of God to build the Temple 1. Because the text saith so Solomon thrust out Abiathar from being Priest to the Lord and ver 35. and Zadok the Priest did the King put in the roome of Abiathar which is a direct deprivation from the Priest-hood but I contend not here But that the King causatively may deprive that is command the Church to cast out hereticks and to commit the Gospell to faithfull men who are able to teach others 2 Tim. 2. 2. wee confesse as for the power of convocating of Synods some thinke that the King may convocate Synods as men but as Church men they have power if the Magistrate bee averse to convocate themselves see Junius who insinuateth this distin●tion But certainly though the Kingly dignity be thought meerely civill yet let this be thought on it may be thought that the Kings power is divine three
assigned of God to them though the lesse dis●ract●ous the wages bee the better and the more convenient they are 2 Tim. 2. 3. 4. 5. As for the tithes wee thinke quotta decimarum or a sufficient maintenance of tithes or what else may conduce for food and raiment of divine right Matth. 10. 16. 1 Cor. 9. 8 9. tithes formally as tithes are not necessary so the Ministers bee provided and a stipend bee allowed to them not as an almes but as a debt Luk. 10. 7. But the stinting of maintenance for Ministers the author condemneth because when Constantine gave large rents to the Church it proved the lane of the Church But I answer stinting maketh not this but excesse for mountaines of rents may bee stinted no lesse then mole-hills In the first proposition Pastors are to bee chosen of new in England though they have beene Pastors before and that by the imposition of the hands of some gracious and godly Christians Answ. Such an ordination wanteth all warrant in the Word of God 2. Why are they ordained over againe who were once ordained already belike you count them not Ministers and baptisme administred by them no baptisme though these same gracious Christians have beene baptized by such and so England hath no Church visible at all and no ministry see what you lay upon Luther and some of our first reformers who had their externall calling from Antichristian Prelates the same very thing which Papists lay upon them 3. If there bee called Pastors in England to lay on hands on Ministers why are not they to impose hands on such as you judge to bee no ministers because possibly the Prelates laid hands upon them seeing you grant Chap. 5. Sect. 9. where there are Presbyters to lay on hands it is convenient that ordination should bee performed by them I confesse I am not much for the honoring of the Prelates foule fingers yet can they not bee called no Pastors no more then in right wee can say Caiaphas was no High Priest Proposition 6. Hee willeth Pastors and Doctors and Elders to bee put in the ●●●me of Parsons and Vicars Answ. If the offices of Parson and Vicar bee set up it is reason they be abolished but for the names there is not much necessitie of contending though in such cases it bee safer to speake with the Scripture then with Papists the Vicar Generall is indeed the Bishops delegat and a creature to bee banished out of the house of God of whose unprofitable place stile see that learned writer D●●id Calderwood who findeth him to bee made of the metall of the Popes service base Copper not Gold and the Popish parson is as the Vicar Firewood for Antichrists Caldron In the 12. and 13. Propositions it is said that it is necessary 〈◊〉 Preachers countenanced from King and State were sent to 〈◊〉 to congregations generally ignorant and prophane and till they 〈…〉 measure of gracious reformation as they can testifie their faith and repentance it were meet they should never renew their C●●●nant made in baptism nor yet have the Seales of the Covenant con●●●ed upon them but till then they shall lament after the Lord as the 〈◊〉 did when the Arke had beene long absent 1 Sam. 7. 2. Answ. In these Propositions most of all the Congregations of England except some few following the way of independencie of Church government though they bee baptized and professe the truth are brought just to the state of Turkes and Indians willing to heare the Word or of excommunicated persons for they and their seede are to want the Scales their children Bapti●me themselves the Lords Supper But 1. how can the 〈◊〉 in ordinary rebukes and excommunication from the S●al● bee exercised upon these who are without and no Churche as yet for while they sweare the Covenant they are not Churches 2. It is said godly Preachers must bee sent to them 〈◊〉 th●y 〈◊〉 reformed but why not godly Pastors because th●ugh these preachers preach unto them yet exercise they no Pastorall care over them because they are not yet a visible Church and flocke and therefore have no more Pastors to care for their soules then Turkes and Indians and Preachers have 〈◊〉 a Pastorall relation to these though baptized and 〈◊〉 Christ then to Indians Jewes or Turkes as our brethren teach a paterne of such flocks is not hard in the word where ordinarily the word is preached to a number of people baptized and yet baptisme denyed to all their seed and the Lords Supper to themselves 3. It is the same Covenant the author speaketh of here with the Church Covenant that 〈◊〉 and Judah made with God and which they say essentially constituteth a Church and hinteth at the Covenant of the Church of Scotland sworne and subscribed by many thousands ign●rant and prophane and who never came to such a measure of gracious reformation as they can testifie their faith and repentance yet did this nation right in putting all to sweare and enter into a Covenant with God for Israel Deut. 29. where there was many who had not eyes to see eares to heare and a heart to understand v. 3. 4. and where there were many rebellious and stiff-hearted Deut. 31. 27. entered all of them into Covenant with God Captaines Elders Officers all the men of Israel Deut. 29. v. 10. Little ones wives children hewers of wood c. all which attained not to such a measure of gracious reformation 2 Chron. 15. 9. all Judah and Benjamin and the strangers with them out of Ephraim and Manasseh and out of Simeon entered into a Covenant with God who after such Apostasie could not all have attained to that measure of gracious reformation as to testifie their faith and repentance by prayer conference experiences of Gods wayes in their heart and confession and yet the Author saith that there is no colour to conceive this way of entering into Church estate by Covenant to be peculiar to the pedagogue of the Old Testament 4. Israels lamenting after the Lord 1 Sam. 7. 2. was not the repentance of a people who was not a Church visible but was onely a people to bee prepared for a Church State and not fit to receive circumcision and the passoever as you conceive of the ignorant and prophane in England which to you are no visible Churches for Israel at this time was a true visible Church The rest of the propositions tending to reformation not discussed elsewhere I acknowledge to be gracious and holy counsells meet for a reformation The Lord build his owne Temple in that Land and fill it with the cloud of his glory FINIS a Psal. 47. 9. b Sam. 23. v. 20. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c Omnis sanguis concolor Franc. Petrarch Psal. 84. 11. Revel 12. 1. e 2 Cor. 8 23. a Cassian de incar lib. 1. c. 4. Primum est errores penitus non in curr●rc sec●ndum bene repudiare b James 4. 1. The way