God in thee judge The matter is great weighty which concerneth everlasting salvation And why should it be thought an incredible thing That Christ should now be manifested in mortal flesh qnickening them that were even dead in sins and trespasses for verily I I have written no other thing concerning him or of the operation of his Eternal spirit then what in measure I have really not imaginarily seen and handled and felt of his work and glory for I dare not speak of that which the Lord hath not wrought in me and by me or to boast in other mens lines for all the world have a form of worship talking of Christs words and the Prophets and Apostles words but are out of their Life and Power Behold what headiness and high-mindedness treachery and betraying one another and will be yet far worse by evil men and seducers c. What incontinence men and women burning in their lusts one towards another What eating and drinking and rising up to play c and yet all covered with a Profession of God and Christ But how can any better fruits be expected when Pastors and Teachers tell People for Doctrines they cannot get victory over sin on this side the Grave which herein is plainly proved false and the everlasting way of Truth discovered which leads out of sin and gives power against sin on this side the Grave and to live pure and holy even as God is holy Think it not impossible with the Lord all things are possible And what I have here written is not to render any man odious or to discover their nakedness but for the bringing of Gods truth to Light for I having had something lying on me a long time to give forth amongst the Professors and Baptists who have any true desires after God and as in obedience to the movings of the Lord I passing amongst them seeing their PRACTISES and hearing their DOCTRINES it was now laid on me of the Lord to give it forth as an Answer thereunto which I have done for the clearing of my Conscience in tender love that all who love their souls may be warned while time is For the dispensation of the fulness of time is come nigh for the gathering together all in ONE even in Christ whether things in Heaven or things in Earth The Parable of the Field is fulfilled the Pearl is found Father Mother Husband or Wife House or Land all is forsaken if the Lord calls and followed even to the end of the earth for the gathering into the unity with the Father and the Son This is the onely desire of him whom the Lord hath called into his labour which seeketh your Eternal good With the measure of God's spirit try all things and let not any motion passe away that seeks truly after God that you may come to have an infallible testimony of the spirit of the Lord in you to lead you and guide you For he that believeth hath the witness in himself T. M. THE BAPTIST AND INDEPENDENT CHURCHES So called Set on Fire By a bright shining Light revealed from Heaven Their PASTORS and TEACHERS scorching in the flame of it gnashing and blaspheming God and his Tabernacle As their Principles rash and judging herein recorded do demonstrate Which are answered for the vindicating of Truth and the satisfying of the simple In which they are found to be children of them which killed the Just and have drunken of the Cup of Fornication who also must drink of the Cup of Indignation at the hand of the Lord. 1. EDward-Whale accounted an Independent Teacher Priest of Waterford affirmed That the godliest man that ever was on the earth did not get the victory over sin or lived free from sin on this side the Grave He did not except Christ This he affirmed in his Pulpit before the whole Congregation in the Idol-Temple formerly a Masse-House with a Cross on the top of it and another at the end of it on the 21. day of the 6th Month 1659. in the City of Waterford Answ He that is born of God doth not commit sin because Christ the Seed of God is in him and as he abides in him he cannot sin though he may be tempted to sin as Christ was yet not overcome with the temptation of sin but thorough Faith in Christ gets the victory over sin and temptations on this side the grave 1 Joh. 3.9 ch 5. ver 4. Sin is of the Devil and he that commits it and pleads for it is taken captive by the Devil at his will 1 Tim. 2.26 1 Joh. 3.5.8 And for this purpose Christ the eternal Son of God was made manifest to take away sin and to destroy sin Heb. 2.14,15 And forasmuch as the children were partakers of flesh and blood Christ himself also partaked of the same that thorough the death he might destroy him that had the power of death that is the Devil and deliver them who thorough fear were all their life time subject to bondage which Christ redeemed them from for saith the Apostle He was made to us wisdom and redemption c. 1 Cor. 3.50 And the Apostle did witness through Christ victory over sin on this side the grave For saith he O death where is thy sting O grave or hell where is thy victory The sting of death is sin the strength of sin is the the Law but take notice thanks be unto God which giveth us the victory thorough our Lord Jesus Christ 1 Cor. 15.54,55,56,57 And so Priest Whale hath preached another Doctrine then Christ or his Ministers and hath as it were blasphemously charged Christ his holy Prophets and Apostles with sin for he did not except them when he said The godlinst man that ever was did not get the victory over sin on this side the grave And so by the holy Scriptures of this truth he is corrected and taken with a lye in his mouth and as it were denying the very purpose work and office of God in Christ which was to save from sin and thorough â—…ath to destroy sin and death and to take it away narling it to the cross c. And this testimony I give unto all the World for the Lord God and his truth That it is possible in and thorough CHRIST JESUS the light of the world that lighteth every one that comes into the World that all that it love and follow in the daily Cross I say That thorough Faith in the Blood of Christ who is our example whose steps many of us are following according to our measures who did not sin neither was guile found in his mouth c. it is possible to live free from sin and to live a pure righteous and holy life even perfect as he is perfect in this present World before this earthly Tabernacle go down to the grave and at this let none stumble but in the cool and calm spirit and in the Light and fear of God search the Scriptures for they testifie that
the members of the true Church so lived in the days of old and many thousands blessed be the Lord in this day are living so and coming so to live Christ being the same yesterday to day and for ever For saith the Apostle What manner of love hath the Father bestowed on us that we should be called the sons of God therefore the world knoweth us not mark the reason because it knew him not but said He was Joseph's son a sinner and hath a Devil and deceiveth the people Why hear ye him Even as Teachers and Professors generally cry out this day against his servants whom he hath sent forth to bear witness of his true Light that it is a natural Light and not sufficient to lead out of sin c. But saith John Beloved now are we the sons of God and it doth not yet appear what we shall be but we know that when he shall appear and blessed be the Lord he is appeared in his Saints 2 Cor. 13.5 Col. 1.27 Rom. 8.10 We shall be like him for we shall see him as he is And every one that hath this hope in him purifieth himself mark that even as he is pure 1 Joh. 3.1.2.3 And herein was Love made perfect and gives boldness in the day of Judgement because say they even as he is take notice of that so are we in this world 1 Joh. 4.17 He that can receive it let him for he was and is without sin and bare our sins in his body on the Tree c. Therefore saith the Apostle If we be dead with Christ we believe that we shall live â—…im Now Christ was dead to sin and the Gospel did wiâ—…s some of them dead to sin and could no longer live therein but live unto Christ in newness and righteousness of Life for a dead man that is really dead cannot move act or speak so he that is really dead to sin cannot act or commit sin and Paul did say That himself ahd others were dead to sin and free from sin Rom. 6.2.7 the old man crucified and the body of sin destroyed Therefore saith he Rom. 6.11 Ver. 14. Reckon your selves to be dead indeed unto sin but alive unto God thorough our Lord Jesus Christ for sin shall not have dominion over you for ye are not under the Law but under Grace which Crace taught them to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live truly like God in this present world Therefore saith Peter 〈◊〉 8.11,12 Forasmuch as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh arm your selves likewise with the same mind for he that hath suffered in the flesh as Old England and New-England and many other places can witness how much many of the faithful servants of the Most High God have suffered in their flesh to the loss of life and spoil of Goods for the Testimony of Jesus and the wicked actions on record will testifie to generations to come I say Pet. 4.12 He that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased mark from sin that he no longer should live to the lust of the flesh or will of man the rest of his time but to the will of God c. And saith Paul Rom. 6.17 God be thanked ye were take notice not that then they were the servants of sin but having obeyed from the heart that form of Doctrine which was delivered you mark â— 18. being made free from sin became the servants of Righteousness So here according to the holy Scripture the Apostle did testifie â—om 17. that the Romans thorough the Gospel he preached unto them had freedom and victory over sin on this side the Grave Cor. 15.54.57 And the Gospel he preached was CHRIST the LIGHT in them and to that was he sent to turn their minds for what may be known of God he told them was manifest in them Rom. 1.19 And his Doctrine was Cor. 2.4,5,6 not with enticing words of mans wisdom but in the demonstration of the spirit and power of the Lord that their Faith might not stand in the wisdom of men by which wisdom they knew not God but in the power of the Lord. Howbeit saith he We preach wisdom 〈◊〉 them that are perfect according to Christ's Doctrine wâ—…d Be ye perfect even as your heavenly Father is perfect And Paul was not ashamed of this Gospel for it was and is the Power of God to salvation to every one that believes and follows the Light of Christ â—om 1.16,17 for therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith â—oh 5.4 by which faith the faithful came to get the victory over sin and freedom from sin and became servants to God and brought forth fruits unto holiness of life Rom 6.22,23 the end of which was and is everlasting peace â—atth 25.46 but the wages of sin living and dying in it is everlasting death and punishment Obj. But did not Paul say O wretched man c. And so though a man may say some be freed from the guilt of sin yet it cannot be that men may be free from the acting or committing of sin whilst they are on earth c. but by the righteousness of Christ imputed to them they shall he saved that believe in Christ c. Answ He that acteth or committeth sin is under the guilt and condemnation for sin for he that commits sin is of the Devil and the Light wil be his condemnation and whosoever abides in him saith John sinneth not whosoever sinneth hath not seen him neither knoweth him for he dyed for sinners and ungodly ones but not to live in sin but unto himself which dyed for them 2 Cor 5 15 and the righteousness of Christ imputed to any that live in sin and daily act and commit sin that will stand them in little stead in the day of the Lords account when he shall give to every one according to the deeds done in the body And although the Scripture saith Abraham believed God and it was imputed unto him for righteousness yet it doth not say that the righteousness of Christ shall be imputed to them which daily live and abide in sin Abraham believed and also obeyed the command of God now that which was written concerning Abrahams righteousness that was imputed unto him was not written for his sake alone as saith the Scripture but for us also to whom take notice of that it shall be imputed if we believe mark and take notice if ye believe it shall be imputed unto you for righteousness if ye say ye do believe then ye shall not abide in sin if ye believe and follow the Light of Christ in you then you shall not saith Christ abide in darkness sin or evil but shall have the Light of Life Compare John 8.12 John 12.46 to Rom. 4.23,24,25 And as for Paul's saying O wretched man c. I do affirme in the fear of God according to what I have received of the
Lord and shall make it to appeare by the aforegoing words of the Apostle to the Romans and also by the words following that it was not the Apostles then present condition when he said O wretched man that I am c. but a condition that he had once passed through which through Christ he did witness a freedom from Rom. 8,12 onely it was the manner of the Prophets and Apostles when they writ to the people and for the condescending to the low estate or condition that those they writ unto were in to rank themselves with them to wit in using the word We or Us as for instance if we say we have nosin or have not sinned c. And in mamy things we offend all And as Isaiah saith Lord why hast thou caused us to erre from thy wayes James 3.2 1 John 1.8 Isaiah 36.17 But Paul as is a fore shewed affirmed they were really dead to sin Rom. 6.2 and he giveth an infallible reason for it for saith he Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized into Christ were baptized into his death that like as Christ was raised from the grave so they were to walk in newness of life Rom. 6.1 to the 8. and so they came from under the dominion of sin and from under the Condemnation of the Law Rom. 6.14.15 Chap. 8.1 but whiles a man lives the Law hath Power over him He that hath an ear to hear can hear and understand Rom. 5.14 but he over whom and in whom death reigns though he may talk of Christ and his righteousness of Faith and Grace c. yet not being turned to the Light which is the Law Rom. 5.13,14 he is not come so far as the pure law of God neither knowes he it in righteousness and truth but is a stranger unto it for saith Paul Know ye not my brethren how that the Law hath dominion over a man so long as he liveth for I speake to them saith he that know the Law for the woman that hath an husband is bound by the Law to her husband so long as he liveth but if her husband be dead she is loosed from the Law of her husband so that she is no adulteress thoughshe be marryed to another Wherefore saith he my brethren ye also are not that ye shall become dead to the Law by the body of Christ that ye should be marryed to another even to Christ who is raised from the dead thorough whom they brought forth fruits unto God for saith he when they were in the flesh he did not then say they now are in the flesh or following the motions of the flesh the motions of sin which were by the Law wrought in their members sin and brought sorth fruits unto death but now he said they were delivered from the Law that they should serve in newness of spirit Rom 6.15 What shall we say then saith he Rom. 7.7 Is the Law sin God forbid for he had not-known sin except the Law had said Thou shalt not covet But sin taking occasion by the Commandement wrought in him all manner of Concupiscente For he was alive mark and take notice of that ONCE He there told them what he was once but by the receiving of the Law which caused sin to abound and appear exceeding sinful he cried out O wretched man c. So there was a time Paul saw his sin to abound by the Law c. and there was a time he did witness he was dead to sin And there was a time he told them The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus had freed him from the Law of Sin and Death And that was Paul's then present condition for saith he There is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh or its motions for they that so do cannot please God But saith he Rom. 8.1 to 10. Ye are not in the stesh but in the Spirit if the Spirit of God dwelleth in you Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his he gives a character of them that have this Spirit whereby in the Light of the Son of God they may judg and examine themselves for if the Spirit of Christ be in thee the body is dead because of sin but the Spirit is Life because of Righteousness So that through this Spirit of Life Paul did witness a freedom from sin and a Victory over sin on this side the grave and thanked God for it and said He had fought the good sight he had finished his course he had kept the Faith which gave victory over the world or sin and henceforth saith he 2 Cor. 12 7 8,9 there is laid up for me a Crown of Glory and Righteousness which the Lord the Righteous Judge shall give me at that day and not onely to me but unto all them which love his appearance And although Paul did cry out of the thorn in the flesh and of the buffeting of Satan lest he should be exalted above his measure Tit. 2.11,12 the Lord did not impute that unto him as sin but said My grace is sufficient for thee which Grace taught Paul and the Saints to deny sin and ungodliness whereby they lived like God in that present world So that it is evident by the Scriptures of Truth that the Apostles and Saints in Light did witness a redemption from sin and were regenerated washed and cleansed and sanctified on this side the grave Read and compare these Scriptures 1 Cor. 1.30 Rom. 6.2.7.22 Ch. 7.6 Rom. 8.2 to 10. 1 Cor. 6.11 Ch. 15.55,56,57 2 Tim. 4.7,8 1 Pet. 4.1,2 So I being cast into Prison that very day that Priest Whale thus affirmed not giving any just offence in word or action as Priest Whale passed by the Prison I required him to prove where man should be made free from sin seeing that he had affirmed That the godliest man that ever was did not get the victory over sin on this side the grave His Answer was They should be cleansed in heaven O wretched man How hast thou darkned the Counsel of the most High God uttering words without the true knowledg of God from thy wisdom which is from beneath which is earthly sensual and bruitish and how hast thou deceived thousands of souls Wo is me for thee the Controversie of the Lord will be great with thee and you all and have taken their moneys for that which is not Bread and have made them spend their labour all the daies of their lives for that which doth not profit their immortal souls which wil be required at thine such blind guides hands as thou art May not the People State wch have given thee a great house 150 l. a year some say 200 l. a year truly say It is for nought for if people can never be made free from sin or get the victory over sin on this side the grave the contrary
I have proved by the Scripture of Truth is it not then plainly made manifest that thou hast taken the peoples mony for nought and deceived them and so hast clothed thy self with the fine of the wooll and thy wife her garments laced with silver and gold from the neck down to the foot the poor ready to perish with hunger and nakedness 1 Tim. 1.2 1 Tim. 2.9,10 lace upon lace some near as broad as four fingers which is not according to the ornaments of the holy women of old which were not laced with silver or gold or plaiting of the hair but covered with the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit which in the sight of God is of great price and hast fed thy self with the fat and neither thou nor any of you all have fed the poor and needy nor bound up that which is broken nor healed at the bottom that which was sick nor brought again that which was driven away but with fierce wrath and cruelty have ye ruled And now to cover thy wickedness and deceit thou Priest Whale sayest They must be cleansed from sin in Heaven which is also contrary to the Scripture which saith No unclean thing Idolaters nor Adulterers effeminate persons nor abusers of themselves with mankind nor covetous persons nor drunkards nor revilers nor extortioners or any that defiles or works abomination or that makes a lye shall inherit the kingdom of God or enter into that holy City and as the tree falls so it lies Eccl. 1.3 1 Cor. 6.9 Rev. 21.27 But saith Paul such were take notice some of you But they came to be washed cleansed and sanctified by the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of their God before ever they entered God's Kingdom which is joy righteousness and peace in the Holy Ghost 1 Cor. 6.9 to the 11. Rom. 14.17 And now let that of God in you all judge Whether that Doctrine Priest Whale preached be according to the Scriptures and all people beware of them to wit such Teachers as Priest Whale and come out from amongst them lest ye partake of their plagues and consider your paths and ponder your waies and what you have benefitted in the things of God by following and learning of such Teachers and cease from them and mind that of God in you and as you come to mind and obey that it will lead you unto God the Father of Life and open your understandings and as you come to wait on the Lord it will reveal the true knowledge and glory of God in you in the face of Jesus Christ the key of which your Teachers have taken from you and caused you to err from the right way of the Lord even CHRIST the LIGHT who is the Way the Truth and the Life 2. The Principles and judging of Robert Car Baptist Pastor in Clonmell He affirmed the 10 th day of the 5 th month 1659 That the Scripture was the Rule of Life and Faith to Salvation And that the Scripture was the more sure word of Prophecie that Peter spake of and the Law Testimony And for us that are called Quakes to affirm that the Spirit of truth from God received was the true rule of life to salvation c. he said It was a fiction of the Devil Answ The true and everlasting Rule of life to Salvation and the Author of Faith which is Christ the holy Scripture is a true declaration of which is Christ the Eternal son of God the Spirit of life and truth which lighteth every one that cometh into the world that all men through him might believe Joh. 16.13 which whosoever loves and followes the Light of the son of God comes to receive the Spirit of Life and truth which leades into all truth and the Light and Spirit of truth is the Law and Testimony which was before the writings of Matthew Mark Luke and John for â—aith Isaiah Isa 8.26 To the Law and to the Testimony Now when Isaiah spake those words the Evangelists writings were not writen Jer. 32.40 Heb. 8.10 Ier. 31.33 Prov. 6 23 therefore the Law and Testimony is another thing and within man for saith God I wil make an everlasting Covenant with the house of I srael I wil put my Law and fear in their hearts and write it in their inward parts Now the Law is the Light which they that believe in follow come to receive the spirit of Life and truth as I said before and that is the Testimony of Jesus for the Testimony of Jesus saith John is the spirit of Prophesie Rev. 19.10 And this Spirit the Apostle did witness was come amongst them and bare witness to their Spirits that they were the sons of God for saith he because ye are sonnes God hath given forth the Spirit of his Son into your take notice hearts Gal. 4 6. And by this Spirit and Light they came to be led out of the lusts of the flesh and through the Cross of Christ knew a crucifying of it and that life in them that stood in outwards signes and things that perished in the using which Paul gloried not in neither desired to glory in any thing save the Cross of Christ for he knew and said Gal. 6.15 Circumcision though it was in its time serviceable and commanded of the Lord yet it availed them nothing yea he told them Gal. 5.2 If they were Circumcised Christ would profit them nothing But the new was to be accepted which was the onely work of the Spirit of the Lord through its eternal working and operation in their hearts circumcising of it and cleansing of it Gal. 5.6 whereby they who abides its working comes to receive the faith of God's Elect which works by love into the obedience to the Spirit of Truth and the sure word of Prophecie which is nigh them even in their hearts and mouths which divideth the evil motions and the evil words from the good and gives power against them as they do appear whereby all that come to obey and take heed unto that more sure Word come to know their sanctification and so the New Creature they come to know and the Mercy and Peace of God comes to be mustiplied in them and on them walking according to that Rule And Peter did not say the Writings of the Evangelists were that more sure Word than that they heard in the Mount which was the living Word of the Lord that abides for ever which by the Gospel was preached unto them and of this Living Word must all be born that ever come to know salvation which Word is in the heart and is quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword even to the dividing of the joints and marrow soul and spirit and the thoughts and intents of the heart And this WORD David said hee had hid in his heart out of which came the Issues of life So Peter told them of another Word than the Words heard in the
quaking do plainly manifest you are not come to the opening of the Book in which the mystery of God have been sealed hid from the Vultrous eye c. And I beheld saith John when he had opened the sixth seal and lo there was a great Earthquake Rev. 6.12 but thou must come to know the pouring out of the vialls by the seven Angels which is pouring forth the wrath of God on the earth as you may read Rev. 16. the whole world that lyes in wickedness shall feel what is contained in that Chapter much there lies in it which I am not permited to speak And when the seventh Angell poured forth mark ye airy Spirits his viall into the air and there came a great voyce out of the Temple saying it is done and there were Voyces and Thunders and Lightnings and there was a great Earthquake such as was not since men were on the earth so mighty an earthquake and so great Rev. 16.17 This hath been truly witnessed and is witnessing amongst those whom the Lord hath redeemed and is redeeming For the Lyon of the Tribe of Judah hath roared out of Sion who wil not fear And the Lord hath spoken who can but Prophesie his everlasting power is made manifest and his glory is revealing and he will overturn overturn overturn till he come to raign whose right it is Christ Jesus the King of Kings and Lord of Lords the onely Potentate of heaven and earth and he in man shall rule and reign over all the world in righteousness whereby true judgement shall be set up in the earth and executed on all transgressors without respect of Persons for he will rule the Heathen with a rod of Iron and all that gather against his chosen ones shall be broken in pieces like a potters vessell and no weapon formed against them shall prosper and every tongue that riseth against them shall be condemned for in Christ our righteousness are we established and establishing And he that rides on the white horse is goneforth Conquering and to Conquer and with the rod of his lips will he smite and is smiting the earth and with the Spirit of his mouth and bright glorious appearance is consuming the Spirit of perdition and the pride and glory of all flesh he is marring and staining for Christ is come in his ten thousands c. For so I have read it in an old Arrianish Testament I saw in Clonmell in these very express words as followeth and of these Prophesied Enoch the seventh from Adam saying behold our Lord is come in his holy thousands to do judgement against all and to reprove all the impious of all the works of their impiety whereby they have done impiously and of all the hard things which impious sinners have spoken against him Jude 41.15 Therefore Awake awake ye that are resting in forms without the power feeding on the husk the letter which killeth and are covered but not with the Spirit of the Lord The all seeing eye is opened before whom the secrets and intents of all hearts are naked and bare your bed is to short and your covering will not hide you you are weighed in an equall ballance and comprehended as half a span by him who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand and meted out heaven with a span and weighed the mountains in scales and the hills in a ballance from which in vain is salvation hoped Therefore Arise Arise ye Baptists that is not your true rest ye now are in it is polluted and will be your great destruction except ye speedily repent for the glory of the Lord is departed from you because you have forsaken your first love to wit the true desires and breathings after God in sincerity that was I witness in many of you about 12 years ago Wo is me for you l who were as it were persecuted for Christs sake and now are turned persecutors as will be made appear as followeth For if the Lord send any of his innocent servants amongst you to speak a word in season you cry out you are disturbed Priest-like limiting the Spirit of the Lord to an hour Glass Or if any speak a word as moved of the Lord in the time you are speaking the divination of your own brains then some of you have laid violent hands and haled out of doors and shut the door this many of you in England and Ireland can witness Oh tremble tremble and be ashamed ye careless ones I many days shall ye be troubled the mouth of the Almighty have spoken it And in the Light of the Son of God examine your selves whether riches and friendship of the world which is enmity unto God and the glory of the world have not blinded the eye of your understanding and so Adam the old man by the earthly mindedness hath stopt up or choaked that of God in you which should give you the true knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ which if ever ye Baptists come to be partakers of in truth by the powerfull operation of Gods Spirit working in you must you feelingly know through judgement that part removed till that which cannot be shaken be raised in dominion to raign in you for yet once more will the Lord by his mighty power shake not onely the earth but heaven also c. And will ye nill ye shall ye all know who are of Gogs number making war against the Lamb and his followers a Day of quaking for in my jealousie and the fire of my wrath have I spoken saith the Lord Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking so that the Fishes of the Sea the fowls of the heaven and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep upon the earth and all men that are upon the face of the earth shall shake at my presence and the mountains shall be thrown down and the steep places and walls shall fall to the ground and I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains saith the Lord God every mans sword against his Brother and I will plead against him with pestilence and blood and rain great hailstones sire and brimstone thus will I magnifie my self and sanctifie my self and I will be known in the eyes of all Nations and they shall know that I am the Lord Ezek. 38.19 to the end So the judgement of Captain Sam. Wade concerning the first rise of quaking and magnifying the Light within to be in opposition to the Scriptures is altogether proved false and a Spiritual delusion This have I written only for the sake of the simple the clearing of false reports against the truth and those that have desires after it God knows I lye not 5 The Principles and Judgement of Joseph Parsons Pastor and Teacher to those people called Freewillers he affirmed before his flock That the Lord would purge c. the Tribe of Levy to offer sacrifices and offerings
I demanded whether he meant Carnall sacrifices c. to wit the blood of bulls and goats c. as in the Leviticall Priesthood he answered Yea as in the former days of old and as in the years past Answ Here Joseph Parsons would go to make Christ the one offering by which he hath for ever perfected them that are sanctified to be of none effect by which one offering he changed both Law and Priesthood disannulled the Commandements which stood in meats and drinks and Carnall washings and the sacrificing and offering of the blood of bulls and goats c. which never made those that were the actors thereof clean or perfect as pertaining to the conscience which were but types and figures and stood in time and had a limitation of time to wit till the time of reformation Heb. 9.9.10 and though there was a time the Lord had regard unto those sacrifices c. And that they were as a sweet savour unto him and he delighted in them and in those that offered them Yet when their hearts went a whoring after other lovers And turned that which once the Lord required of them into Idolatry then the Lord loathed it and them and their solemnities-were a burden unto him and he sent his Prophets rising early to cry against them And by the mouth of the Prophets the Lord told them he had not required these things at their hands but it was abomination unto him Isa 1.11 to the 15. As saith the Lord I have not caused thee O Jacob to serve with offerings neither hast thou honoured me with thy sacrifices but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins as saith the Apostle Sacrifices and Carnall offerings thou wouldest not O God but a body hast thou prepared me c. So that when that body of Christ Jesus was offered up which came to do the will of God according as it was written in the Volume of the Book he mark for ever perfected and sanctified them which believed and followed him and changed that Law and Priesthood and is the end of it for righteousness sake c. And so I say if the work of Christ in this the mighty day of his Power and Judgement in which he is come and coming as a refiners fire to purge and purifie the Sons of Levy that they might offer an offering in righteousness c. I say if it were to offer Carnall Sacrifices as in the days of old it would be a building again that which he hath changed and I saith the Lord change not but the Apostles amongst whom that day of Judgement first began for one day is with the Lord as a thousand years c. they plainly shews what that offering was which the Prophet Mal. spoke of which should be pleasant unto the Lord as in the days of old and in former years c. for saith the Apostle to them which had tasted that the Lord was gracious ye also as Living stones are built up take notice of the offering that should bee pleasant c. a spirituall house an holy Priesthood to offer up spirituall sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ this was and is the everlasting offering that is offered up by the members of the Church and first fruits unto God since the long night of Apostancy who as living stones are built up a spirituall house a royall priesthood a holy nation a peculiar people that the Lord hath called out of darkness into the marvellous Light to shew forth his praise who hath lead and is leading through the judgment and the fire whereby blessing and glory glory to the Lord in the highest many are purged and purified even as fine gold through which they are come into the pure Life of Jesus from which an offering a sweet odour a savour acceptable unto the Lord as in the days of old and years past in righteousness is offered unto the Lord. So Joseph Parsons hath manifested himself to be amongst the Babylonish foolish builders and ignorant of the Scriptures not dividing the word aright The words of the Prophet Jeremiah are fulfilled in the Pastors for saith he the Pastors are become brutish and have not known the Lord in rightousness therefore they shall not prosper and all their flocks shall be scattered Jer. 10.21 And when the Prophet spoke of that day of the Lord in which the Lord would be and now is a swift witness against the forcerer the false prophet and false swearers adulterers and oppressors c. and also of the offering that should be pleasant c. He doth not speak there of the Carnall offerings of the Leviticall Priesthood but of the offerings of Judah c. Heb. 7.14 Mal. 3.4 And the Scripture saith it is evident that our Lord sprungout of Judah of which there was nothing spoke concerning Priesthood So this day that Scripture is fulfilled in your ears for the offering of Judah according to the Spirit and Jerusalem which is come down from God out of heaven and is free the mother of us all is pleasant unto the Lord as in the days of old and years past compare Mat. 3.4 1 Pet. 2.4 Gal. 4.25.26 Rev. 21.2 And they are not all Israel who are of Israel after the flesh but they are of the true Israel that are born of the immortall Word of God that lives and abides for ever in whose mouth is found no guile neither tells a lye and hee made all nations on the face of the whole earth of one flesh and blood Jo. 1.17 Rev. 14 5 Act. 17.26 and in Christ Jesus there is no difference whether Jew or Gentile male or female circumcision uncircumcision Barbarian Scythian bond or free for ye mark that are all one in Christ Jesus saith the Apostle Gal. 3.28 Col. 3.11 for Israel after the flesh stumbled at Christ the chief corner stone as many of the Pastors and Teachers now do at Christ the Light within so he is not a Jew who is one outwardly but he is a true Jew who is one inwardly following the Lamb in the regeneration whose praise is of God and not of man yet a bundantly will the Lord be glorified in the Jews according to the flesh the day of whose redemption draws near and their captivity hastneth to be at an end and that is the Word of the Lord God of hosts to the Jews 6 The rash Judgement of William Lee Baptist Teacher Governour of Waterford reproved and found false and so proved according to the Law and Testimony wherein also is a true testimony of the operation of the eternall power and Spirit of the Lord in the work of regeneration c. On the 4 day of the 6 month 1659. I being at And. Richets house then Mayor of Waterford about my releasing out of prison being then a prisoner for the testimony of Jesus And there being present he called Colenell William Lee and William Lamb a Baptist Pastor this did occasion some conference about the
the truth of Christ and his Doctrine I do believe and abide in through his mercy and Power Obj. But thou dost not practice the Ordinances of bread and baptising of water Well let us reason together Answ I do require and challenge all the Baptists in the Nation to prove by express words for he that addeth or diminisheth to or from the words written in the Booke God will adde to him the Plagues written therein where ever Christ did baptize with Water or command any to baptize with Elementary Water That Matth. 28,19 Go teach all Nations baptizing them c. doth not speak of Elementary Water and it is evident the Scripture doth speak of other Baptism then John's which was onely Elementary Water which I also do believ was a Command of God to John though sometimes practised by the Disciples but fulfilled and ended by and in Christ to every one that believes and follows the Light of Christ within which leads to the one Baptism the weightier matter spoken of Eph. 4.5 And I have a Baptism to be baptized with saith Christ and how am I straitened tiâ—l it be accomplished Luk. 12.50 Now Christ had fulfilled John's Baptism as to himself before he spoke those words and was before that baptized of John as you may read Luke 3.2 And himself did prophesie the decreasing of his Ministration For saith he I baptize with water unto repentance but he that cometh after me who is mightier then I he shall baptize you with the holy Ghost and with fire He doth not say Christ should baptize with Water but with the Holy Ghost c. And he shall encrease saith John but I shal decrease And when the Apostle came to Ephesus finding certain Disciples which had take notice been baptized before that unto John he said unto them Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed And they said We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost Then saith Paul who was not sent to baptize with water for I baptized none saith he except Crispus and Paulus c. and the houshold of Stephanus To what were ye baptized They said Unto John Then saith he John verily baptized with the Baptism of Repentance saying That they should believe on him that should come after him Christ Jesus When they heard that they were baptized into Christ and Paul laid his hands on them and they received the holy Ghost Acts 19.1 to the 6. So it is evident as I said before there is another Baptism then Water-Baptism as true experience of many can witness who are now baptised and baptizing into the Father Son and Holy Ghost or into Christs death according to the Scriptures of Truth for saith the Apostle Know ye not that so many of us as have been baptized into Christ were baptized into his death c. Rom. 6.3 And he said unto the Galatians As many of you as have been Baptized into Christ have put on Christ Gal. 3.27 So the Scripture doth not say any where that they that are baptized into the Father are baptized with water or they that are baptized into the Son and Holy Ghost are baptized with Elementary water which onely was a type or figure of the inward washing and sanctifying for the baptisme of the Father Son and Holy Ghost is three distinct things of a various operation though wrought by one and the same spirit the one a ministration of Terror and Condemnation the second of Salvation or washing and cleansing from sin and the third a Sanctifying and Glorifying with the same Glory that was with the Father before the world or sin began And so I do affirm in the fear of the Lord which is according to the Scriptures of Truth That Christ is the end of the Law and of John's ministration for righteousness sake to every one that believes in the Light which Christ hath enlightned every one withall that whosoever I say believes in the Light of Christ in them it leads as they follow it into the one baptism Eph. 4.5 and daily Cross of Christ to the Crucifying and slaying of the Lusts of the flesh Pride of Life envyings wrath strife adulteries Idolatry witchcraft variance emulation seditions heresie Drunkenness murders self-willedness c. the which they that live in are not Christs neither are such actions the fruits of the members of the true Church And whether many of those sins be not standing amongst you Baptists Let that of God in you all Judge for I standing peaceably in a meeting amongst the Baptists in Waterford where William Lee was Preaching and when he had done I stood upon a form to speak the Word of the Lord that was in my heart as fire desiring their moderation I speaking no other things then what is contained in the Scriptures of Truth but Will. Lee came out of his Pulpit and laid violent hands on me and thrust me down gnashing his teeth on me Another member of that Church Serjeant Wilson Constable of the Town laid violent hands on me and haled me out of the room and said That I deserved to be stoned to death and another time I walking peaceably in the next room to their meeting came Geo. Caldron called an Alderman and told me It was their hired house and if I did stay there it should be to my perill and the day aforesaid when I was with the Mayor when Will. Lamb Pastor was taking his leave of the Mayor he bowed hat and knee saying Your humble servant Sir according to the fashion of the world which passeth away for which I reproving him he came and laid hands on my hat and took it off my head and threw it violenton the ground which some of his Brethren would have had him taken up again but he would not so because I know they were ashamed of the brutishness of their Pastor one of them took up my hat and ran after me and put it on my head which was said to be Captain Boulton And that same day because I testified the writings of the Prophets and Apostles were not the Word of God but I said that which was spoken from the Spirit of God were the Words of God but Christ is the Word Bov. 19. Jo. 1.1 So Will. Lamb was speaking with the rest and would have had me to been taken hold of for he said there was an Act of Parliament that if any should say the Scripture was not the Word of God they should suffer c. And being somtime after that amongst the Baptists of Waterford Jo. Deck a Teacher of them was whispering with some of his Brethren and came presently unto me and held up the Bible in his hand and asked me whether that was not the Word of God Judas-like to betray or insnare me I asked him whether that was the Word of God which Rabshaka and Sennacherib spoke blaspheming and reproaching the Living God and that the Devil spoke to Christ his answer was That it was And Roger
powerings forth of his eternall Spirit and to feel its operation and movings in you untill then in the dread power and authority of the Spirit of the Lord again I say unto you Let all flesh keep silence Gods witness in every one of you shall eternally witness me to be true for through the operation of Gods eternall Power and Spirit of Life Life and Immortality is brought to Light through which the Immortall soul comes to be refreshed and the seed of God raised out of death And that Life and seed is but one in all in the male and in the female so if Gods Spirit move in son or daughter to speak in the Church of Christ it is not lawfull to quench it But if any thing else speak whether in male or female and not the Spirit of the Lord or its movings that which speaks in male or female being in the sin and transgression that is the woman or sorrowfull sinfull man that must be silent and ask the husband at home which if she continue in the faith Patience Godliness Sobriety and Charity untill the man-child be born or brought forth in Dominion to Raign to Rule the transgressing part with a rod of Iron she may be saved he that can receive it let him for where sin and evill is standing there is woe and sorrow whether in male or female and all must be silent in the Church till sin and iniquitie is blotted out but who are come to know remission of sin through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ there is glad tidings Joy and Peace and all that ever ministers from the Spirit of Truth in the Church of Christ must first be a partaker of the fruits of the Kingdome of God in measure for saith the Apostle The husbandman that laboureth must first bepar taker of the fruits viz. of that he ministereth to wit of the Joy or Glory he testifieth of therefore saith he to Tymothy consider what I say and the Lord give thee understanding c. And male and female is all one in Christ and each must come to know the Travell and Anguish which makes all faces gather paleness before that Child be brought forth Wherefore saith the Prophet Jeremiah Ask ye now and see whether a man doth travell with Child wherefore do I see every man with his hands upon his Loins as a woman in travell and all faces are turned into paleness c. Jer. 30 6. This is a mystery Christ in man And so I say when the Life of Christ is brought forth in power in son or daughter it is Lawful for either to speak in the Church of Christ as Miriam and the holy women did in the days of old teach and instruct in the Congregation of the Lord and Miriam taught Israel to sing praises to the Lord and Deborah a Prophetess Judged Israel and instructed Barack taught the people to praise the Lord and Huldah the Prophetess spoke the Word of the King saying Thus saith the Lord And Priscilla with Aquila her Husband took Apollo a man of Alaxandria and instructed him more perfectly in the way of the Lord And Paul commends those women to the Philippians which laboured with him in the Gospell And do the Baptists think the Apostle would commend those women in one place or to one people and reprove them or write against them to another people and command them to be silent because Paul saith I suffer not a woman to teach or to usurpe authority over the man But be silent and ask her Husband at home c. and therefore you will not willingly if the Lord send his handmaids or daughters amongst you suffer them to speak on whom the Lord promised he would pour out of his Spirit in the last days and they should Prophesie I tell you there is a great mistery in those words I suffer not a woman to teach but to be in silence c. The Lord of Hosts is the Husband of his Church and as Peter said Our beloved brother Paul writ in all his Epistles somethings hard to be understood which they that are unlearned in the Doctrine and mysteries of Christ wrest as they do all other Scriptures to their own destruction Therefore take heed all ye that are stumbling at the Lords speaking in his handmaids as in ages past who is the same for ever Least yee are found perverting the Truth of the Lord and quenching his Spirit For Anna a Prophettess a woman of great age that had lived with an Husband seven years from her Virginity a widow of about fourscore years of age that served God in Fastings and Prayers she coming into the Temple that instant when the Child Jesus was in the Temple she gave thanks and preached in the Temple redemption by Jesus Christ to all them that looked for it in Jerusalem And Christ himself bid Mary Magdalen to whom first he appeared after his Resurrection out of whom he had cast seven Devills Go and tell or preach to my Brethren that he is arisen saith the Angell and go to Gallalee there shal they see me saith Christ And so I say unto you where ever the seed which is Christ to which all the promises of God are Yea and Amen and all that ever come to be blessed it must be in the seed is brought forth in power to Raign it is lawfull to speak whether in male or female quench it not for in Christ Jesus there is no difference in him all is one Col. 3.11 Gal. 3.28 Therefore again I say unto you quench not the Spirit of the Lord but try all things and hold fast that which is good and despise not reproof of Instruction but receive the Truth in the Love of it to wit the Light and Spirit of Truth within as is largely before proved according to the Scripture of Truth as it is in Jesus And take heed least for your not receiving the Truth in the Truth in the Love of it God give you wholly over to reprobate minds to work uncleanness with greediness and so he Justly send you stronger delusions that ye all may be damned who will not believe and receive the Truth in the Love of it And then in that day of trouble and Anguish when you cry and call even you who have caused the simple to erre keeping them in that which perisheth in the using from the measure of of God in them bringing all the Arguments and strong Reasons to pervert and perswade from the Truth and to stop Gods Righteous witnesse from arising in the simple of which many would hear and receive the Truth but having not strength are afraid of being cast out from amongst you as it was amongst the envious Jews who ever of them did confess Christ was to be cast out But the day is near come that such fears shall be cast out of them who breath after God in righteousness and Truth and they shall come to know one if you cast them out will
Mokell which that day was preaching I being moved of the Lord to give my testimony against him which by good and fair words they were good words us they were spoken from the holy men of God but the deceiver taking them to cover his deceit thereby deceives the simple so after that in my conference with R. M. he said he had not an Infallible Spirit but was subject to erre so this makes good my testimony for the Lord that he spoke not from the mouth of the Lord but spoke the good words as I said before from an erring spirit for all that speak not from an infallible spirit or measure thereof speak from an erring spirit So let that of God in all Judge what Pastors Teachers these be Many other such like passages might I relate which would be too large to write neither do I write it out of prejudice or envy unto any God knows I lye not but it is only that all who are concerned therein may throughly search themselvs with that of God in them see what they have Profited in the things of God by such Pastors and Teachers and into what you are baptized for where the old man and its fruits are standing to wit Pride Lust Envy c. You are not come so far as John's Baptisme the true figure which was to repentance nor the answer of a good conscience by the resurrection of the Just but have need to be taught the first Principles of the true Christian Religion to wit turn to the Light of Christ in you which would lead you to repentance and from dead works c. and to go on to perfection Heb. 6.1.2 And into the daily Cross as I said afore to the crucifying of the old man and his deeds and so to know as Panl did a daily dying and baptized into the death of Christ buried with him in baptism that Like as Christ was raised by the Power and Glory of God the Father of Life from the Grave so to be raised and changed into newness of Life and so the fruits and effects of the Spirit of Truth will be brought forth which are meekness Long-suffering Brotherly kindness Gentleness Temperance Love Faith Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost Now if these fruits and effects are brought forth by you Baptists let that of God in all Judge for Christ said false Prophets should come and ye shall know them by their fruits and now false Prophets and brutish Pastors are known by their fruits who cry out the Ordinances of Christ The Ordinances of Christ c. Even as the false Prophets did in the days of old The Temple of the Lord The Temple of Lord but mocked the messengers of the Lord God and despised his Words and killed and mis-used his Prophets against such Christ himself cryed and Prophesied the destruction of that Temple and said God his Father was a Spirit and in the Spirit and in the Truth would he be worshipped And told his Disciples when he was with them That except he did go away the Comforter would not come But if he did go away he would send the Comforter even the Spirit of Truth which should lead and guide them into all Truth and shew them things to come 8 Therfore that very night he was betrayed as a Pledge of his Love knowing that his Disciples were but weak The Holy Ghost not being then given amongst them though he had done many glorious works and miracles amongst them he left them a remembrance of himself which was the figure of the Spirituall breaking of Bread as will be shewed I say that very night Christ was betrayed He took Bread and broke it and blessed it saying This is my Body which is broken for many c. And Likewise the Cup saying This Cup is the New Testament in my Blood c. which was to be done onely in remembrance of him saith the Apostle mark the Limitation of time till he come who blessed be the Lord many do witness to be come in great Power Glory and when his good Spirit was come unto the Apostles it was their great work to bring the Saints off from outward things that were seen Carnall Ordinances that perished in the using for Bread is seen and Wine is seen and Elementary Water is seen and they all are Carnall and perish in the using 2 Cor. 4.17.18 Col. 2.22 Therefore saith the Apostle If ye be dead with Christ why as though Living are ye Subject to Ordinances which all are to perish in the using after the Commandements of men threrefore he bid them beware Least any man spoyle them through Philosophy and vain deceit and traditions of men after the rud ments of the world and not after Christ Col. 2.8 to the end of the Chap. And bid them if they were risen with Christ to seek those things which were above Carnall Ordinances which perished in the using where Christ sitteth at the right hand of God c. And this testimony I give to all the world That you baptists and other that are found practising those ordinances Baptism and breaking Bread c. you are not to be parallelled or compared to the Saints and Apostles that did practise those things in their purity or first institution by Christ not from tradition or command of mans for whatever Christ or his Prophets or holy Apostles did practise as is recorded in the Scripture is no ground for any one now to practise except commanded or moved immediately by the same spirit that lead them unto it for they that so do will be found in the rudiments of the World walking in traditions although they may say They have eaten and drunken at the Table of the Lord and prophesied in his Name and done many wonders c. yet when God's righteous Witness comes to be raised in Power to judgement it will be said Who required those things at your hands c For since the long Night of Apostasie that Antichrist hath reigned through his subtil working hath gotten into all these outward Ordinances Practises and Forms that were practised by the Primitive Church but the Power he had not which did then even in the dayes of the Apostles begin to work with all Power Signs and lying Wonders in them that perish whom now by the second and glorious appearance of Christ in man is revealing the man of sin and Mystery of Iniquity and by the Power of his Spirit and brightness of his coming is destroying and consuming of him which hath a long time reigned in man the Temple of God And therefore ye Baptists you are found in the Traditions and Rudiments of the World for the Pope Jesuits and all his Fryars and all that they call Christendom are baptizing and breaking bread crying out The Ordinances of the Lord c. But the Spirit of Life from God which is eternal and not carnal nor seen with the carnal eye he I say that hath this spirit is come