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A93040 The journal of Monsr. de Saint Amour doctor of Sorbonne, containing a full account of all the transactions both in France and at Rome, concerning the five famous propositions controverted between the Jansenists and the Molinists, from the beginning of that affair till the Popes decision. / Faithfully rendred out of French. ; A like display of the Romish state, court, interests, policies, &c. and the mighty influences of the Jesuites in that church, and many other Christian states, being not hitherto extant.; Journal. English Saint-Amour, Louis-Gorin de, 1619-1687.; Havers, G. (George) 1664 (1664) Wing S296A; ESTC R225933 1,347,293 723

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