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deny_v be_v of_o his_o own_o make_n etc._n etc._n the_o 2_o proposition_n be_v apparent_a according_a to_o mr_n sutcliff_n divinity_n for_o most_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o their_o first_o bishop_n receive_v their_o order_n and_o consecration_n from_o our_o catholic_a bishop_n as_o his_o brother_n bel_n confess_v survey_v pag._n 201._o and_o the_o thing_n itself_o speak_v see_v when_o lâ—ther_o begin_v there_o be_v not_o any_o protestant_n bishop_n or_o priest_n etc._n etc._n and_o if_o mr_n sutâ—liffe_n dare_v deny_v that_o their_o bishop_n be_v câ—nsâ—cratedlâ—_n we_o then_o let_v he_o name_v who_o they_o be_v that_o do_v lay_v hand_n upon_o mr_n parker_n the_o first_o of_o cant._n that_o derive_v not_o their_o mission_n authority_n and_o consecration_n from_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n certain_a it_o be_v thâ—t_v â—yther_o none_o at_o all_o can_v be_v name_v or_o else_o none_o besides_o therefore_o if_o our_o bishop_n be_v