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A67383 A defence of the Royal Society, and the philosophical transactions, particularly those of July, 1670 in answer to the cavils of Dr. William Holder / by John Wallis ... ; in a letter to the Right Honourable, William Lord Viscount Brouncker. Wallis, John, 1616-1703.; Royal Society (Great Britain) 1678 (1678) Wing W573; ESTC R705 35,199 34

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A DEFENCE Of the Royal Society And the Philosophical Transactions Particularly those of July 1670. In Answer to the Cavils of Dr. WILLIAM HOLDER By JOHN WALLIS D. D. Professor of Geometry in Oxford and Fellow of the ROYAL SOCIETY In a Letter to the Right Honourable WILLIAM Lord Viscount BROUNCKER LONDON Printed by T. S. for Thomas Moore at the Maidenhead over against St. Dunstan's Church in Fleet-street 1678. To the Right Honourable WILLIAM LORD VISCOUNT BROUNCKER March 6. 1677 8. My LORD IN the Printed Paper of Dr. Holder which your Lordship shewed me when I was last in London about a fortnight since which till that time I had not seen I find great complaints of the Royal Society Of the Philosophical Transactions particularly that of July 1670. Of the Publisher thereof Mr. Oldenburg who deserved better things Of Dr. Plot and of some others whom because he did forbear to name in particular I shall forbear it too but most of all of my self He complains page 1 2. of subtil Contrivances and subtil Practices to abuse the Reader with false Shews somewhat resembling Truth And they be so subtil and so resembling Truth or rather so perfectly true that there is not one Sentence or Clause in what he finds fault with which notwithstanding all his displeasure he doth so much as charge with untruth Whereas his Paper is full of gross mistakes That in the year 1659 60 or at any other time at Bletchington near Oxford or any where else Dr. William Holder or Mr. William Holder did teach Alexander Popham Esquire to speak as page 1. If it be true is more than I yet know that he did attempt it I know very well but that he did effect it I never yet heard any body say but himself What there follows That I saw and perfectly knew this that I resorted to Blechington to see and hear Mr. Popham is a very great mistake I never to my knowledge saw Mr. Popham either at Blechington or any where else till that very day when his Mother the Lady Wharton brought him to me at Oxford in the year 1662 to stay with me and learn to speak Much less had I heard him speak and least of all had seen Dr. Holder teach him Who were those many pag. 1 5. or those few if any who did on purpose resort to Blechington on that account or what they found there I cannot tell sure I am that I was none of them 'T is true I then liv'd at Oxford that is I had an habitation there and have both before and since the time mentioned had conversation with Dr. Holder and had before that time but I think not since been sometimes with him at his house in Blechington But sure I am that I was not with him there at any time when Mr. Popham was with him For had I been so and on an account so remarkable it is not possible that in so short a time as two years or less I should so perfectly forget it as then to take Mr. Popham for a strange person whom I had never seen before and that from that time to this I should never by any circumstance call it to mind that I had before seen him It is much more possible that Dr. Holder's memory may fail him who having divers times before seen me at Blechington might think one of those times to have been while Mr. Popham was with him if at least it be true that so very many did resort thither on purpose upon that occasion as page 1 5. When Mr. Popham came to me in the year 1662. which was the first time that I ever saw him he had as Dr. Holder words it page 3 5. begun to loose what he had been taught That is he had so perfectly forgot if at all taught that I found him not able to pronounce one word or syllable Now if so lately as in the year 1660 he had learned to speak so well as page 6. to pronounce plainly and distinctly and with a good and graceful Tone whatever words were shewn him in Print or writing or represented to him by several ways or as he had occasion to ask for c. as page 5. it is very strange it should so perfectly be forgotten within two years And if as pag. 1. 5. so many did then from Oxford resort to Blechington to see and hear him if it was then so publickly taken notice of and known not onely to those eminent Persons there named but generally in Oxford and that from thence so very many did resort thither on purpose to satisfie their curiosity and have a particular knowledge of what they had received by report It is very much that there be now as page 3. so very few if any in Oxford who know or think otherwise but that it was the effect of my skill not of his Habits so well acquir'd do not use to be so quickly lost and matters of fact so remarkable so publick so generally known so particularly inquired into and by so very many who did hear and see it and did on purpose resort thither for that end are not wont to be so suddenly forgotten by the same persons and in the same place However if I have never challenged it as page 3. I have at least done him no wrong 't is at most but not being not so kind to him as he could have wish'd to say nothing of it And if all people give me the credit of it without my claiming it surely they must therein be very kind or there was some ground for their so doing What he adds page 5. That I had discourse with him on that occasion divers times when we hapned to meet at Oxford is but a mistake like the rest for I do not remember that then he and I had ever discoursed this in Oxford at all much less divers times And it may be he will begin to think so too when he shall remember what perhaps he did not so well consider when he wrote this that Dr. Wilkins at whose Lodgings in Wadham Colledge it was that he and I did use to meet in Oxford and but accidentally was in the year mentioned 1659 Master of Trinity Colledge in Cambridge And though he did for some part of that year retain his Title to Wadham Colledge yet he was but little there in that year save when he came to resign and carry away his Goods And if I did at that time chance to meet him there once it is more than I do remember much less do I remember that I had then discourse on this occasion But if his 1659. page 4. be the same with his 1659 60 page 1. the thing is past dispute For Dr. Wilkins was gone from Oxford before that time and the Meetings page 4. which he makes the Foundation of the Royal Society had been there disused long before and were then held at Gresham-Colledge in London Not but that ingenious persons in Oxford as they met