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the_o premise_n and_o thus_o how_o far_o be_v he_o from_o exhort_v we_o to_o call_v upon_o the_o saint_n decease_v or_o to_o trust_v to_o their_o merit_n have_v our_o master_n the_o commissioner_n have_v time_n to_o have_v read_v over_o the_o whole_a place_n at_o length_n as_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n do_v most_o earnest_o request_v will_v they_o have_v stay_v upon_o that_o which_o the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr do_v urge_v 1414._o urge_v in_o princi_fw-la pâ—â—_n 1414._o job_n in_o tempore_fw-la judaico_fw-la non_fw-la potuit_fw-la seruare_fw-la judaeos_fw-la pereuntes_fw-la job_n in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o jew_n can_v not_o save_v the_o jew_n that_o perish_v will_v they_o not_o by_o that_o which_o follow_v have_v note_v that_o he_o alude_v to_o the_o place_n of_o jeremy_n if_o noah_n daniel_n and_o job_n stand_v afore_o i_o etc._n etc._n si_fw-mi steterint_fw-la noah_n daniel_n &_o job_n etc._n etc._n will_v they_o not_o have_v perceive_v that_o sisteterint_fw-la signify_v if_o 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himself_o to_o beat_v down_o this_o abuse_n so_o careful_a be_v he_o to_o undermine_v the_o foundation_n upon_o every_o occasion_n namely_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n decease_v found_v upon_o the_o pretend_a merit_n of_o other_o he_o perceave_v say_v he_o that_o the_o people_n trust_v more_o to_o the_o help_n of_o other_o man_n prayer_n then_o to_o the_o amendment_n of_o their_o own_o life_n and_o therefore_o fight_v against_o this_o opinion_n namely_o to_o depend_v upon_o any_o other_o whosoever_o but_o say_v chrisostom_n we_o have_v much_o more_o assurance_n through_o our_o own_o prayer_n then_o through_o the_o prayer_n of_o other_o neither_o do_v god_n so_o soon_o grant_v our_o salvation_n at_o other_o entreaty_n as_o at_o our_o own_o for_o so_o take_v he_o compassion_n of_o the_o woman_n of_o chanaan_n give_v faith_n to_o the_o adultress_n and_o paradise_n to_o the_o thief_n and_o thereto_o never_o entreat_v at_o the_o intercession_n of_o either_o advocate_n or_o mediator_n against_o this_o place_n the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr propound_a falsehood_n by_o omission_n namely_o because_o the_o lord_n of_o plessas_n have_v omit_v these_o word_n follow_v mandeâ—â—â—_n follow_v chrian_a mat._n hom_n â—_o pag._n 59_o edit_n basi_fw-la apud_fw-la froben_n 1558._o et_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la eo_fw-la dicimus_fw-la ut_fw-la supplicandum_fw-la esse_fw-la sanctis_fw-la negemus_fw-la sed_fw-la ne_fw-la torpeamus_fw-la neve_o supini_fw-la ipsi_fw-la &_o dormieate_n alus_fw-la tatum_fw-la mo_z do_fw-mi nostra_fw-la curanda_fw-la mandeâ—â—â—_n neither_o â—â—e_v we_o speak_v this_o to_o deny_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v to_o saint_n but_o that_o we_o shall_v not_o be_v negligent_a or_o slothful_a and_o so_o fâ—lling_v on_o sleep_n or_o be_v benumb_v we_o shall_v commit_v the_o manage_n of_o our_o affair_n to_o other_o where_o we_o be_v to_o note_v by_o the_o way_n that_o the_o copy_n which_o chemnicius_n cit_v have_v these_o word_n non_fw-la quod_fw-la negemus_fw-la sanctus_fw-la orare_fw-la debere_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatoribus_fw-la not_o that_o we_o deny_v that_o the_o saint_n shall_v pray_v for_o sinner_n where_o by_o the_o sense_n shall_v differ_v very_o much_o &_o in_o this_o case_n he_o will_v not_o have_v make_v such_o haste_n to_o tax_v he_o for_o omission_n because_o he_o shall_v have_v gain_v nothing_o thereby_o but_o take_v law_n of_o the_o common_a lesson_n either_o s._n chrisostom_n in_o this_o homely_a speak_v of_o pray_v to_o the_o live_a saint_n to_o remember_v we_o in_o their_o prayer_n either_o else_o of_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n decease_v if_o of_o these_o then_o do_v the_o l._n of_o plessis_n confess_v the_o omission_n and_o grant_v that_o he_o have_v do_v amiss_o if_o of_o the_o other_o what_o wrong_n have_v he_o do_v since_o they_o both_o agree_v for_o there_o be_v no_o controversy_n in_o the_o matter_n but_o sure_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a by_o the_o whole_a course_n of_o all_o the_o homely_a and_o by_o the_o example_n produce_v that_o he_o there_o speak_v only_o of_o the_o holy_a man_n that_o make_v intercession_n here_o beneath_o in_o their_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o his_o people_n and_o of_o the_o faithful_a pray_v each_o for_o other_o in_o this_o homely_a do_v s_n chrisostom_n handle_v this_o point_n that_o even_o our_o lord_n brother_n believe_v not_o in_o he_o and_o thereout_o gather_v this_o conclusion_n that_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o have_v any_o familiarity_n either_o of_o country_n family_n or_o parentage_n with_o the_o lord_n unless_o we_o labour_v to_o conform_v ourselves_o unto_o he_o and_o therefore_o he_o say_v collocet_fw-la say_v ibid._n p._n 54._o nemo_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la desperet_fw-la etc._n etc._n neevila_fw-la in_o re_fw-la alia_fw-la spem_fw-la svam_fw-la quam_fw-la post_fw-la dei_fw-la misericordiam_fw-la in_o vertute_fw-la sva_fw-la collocet_fw-la let_v no_o man_n settle_v his_o hope_n in_o any_o thing_n but_o next_o unto_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n in_o his_o own_o virtue_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n he_o allege_v homo_fw-la allege_v et_fw-la mox_fw-la no_o &_o
a_o spanish_a divine_a labour_v to_o defend_v he_o now_o upon_o the_o difficulty_n that_o our_o master_n the_o commissioners_n find_v in_o the_o resolution_n they_o refer_v the_o judgement_n to_o a_o other_o time_n as_o perceive_v that_o it_o be_v no_o matter_n of_o audience_n neither_o may_v we_o here_o forget_v one_o school_n trick_n that_o the_o l._n of_o eur._n play_v the_o l._n of_o bless_v for_o in_o as_o much_o as_o in_o scot_n book_n that_o he_o have_v send_v he_o over_o night_n he_o have_v note_v the_o place_n which_o he_o purpose_v to_o use_v to_o maintain_v his_o allegation_n he_o bring_v in_o a_o other_o &_o of_o a_o other_o print_n to_o the_o table_n that_o he_o may_v the_o hardly_o find_v it_o out_o which_o when_o the_o say_v l._n tell_v he_o of_o he_o seem_v for_o the_o time_n to_o make_v no_o account_n though_o afterward_o he_o boast_v of_o it_o &_o the_o like_a he_o do_v upon_o sundry_a instance_n the_o second_o place_n out_o of_o durand_n for_o the_o second_o 11._o liâ—_n 4._o de_fw-fr eu_n char_n c._n 9_o edi_fw-la 1._o p._n 870._o l._n 24._o edi_fw-la 2._o pa._n 936._o l._n 31._o edi_fw-la 3._o p._n 764._o l._n 11._o follow_v a_o place_n out_o of_o durand_n of_o porcin_n page_n 870_o line_n 24._o in_o these_o word_n concern_v the_o same_o matter_n contrary_a wise_a say_v he_o admit_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n do_v remain_v yet_o do_v there_o ensue_v but_o one_o difficulty_n namely_o that_o two_o body_n be_v together_o neither_o too_o great_a nor_o indissoluble_a admit_v the_o contrary_a we_o shall_v find_v many_o â—â—â—ely_o how_o these_o accident_n may_v be_v nourish_v be_v corrupt_v how_o some_o thing_n may_v be_v engender_v consider_v that_o all_o thing_n be_v make_v of_o the_o presuppose_a matter_n and_o therefore_o it_o seem_v better_a to_o hold_v to_o the_o first_o etc._n etc._n in_o which_o place_n the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr again_o pretend_a that_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n have_v take_v durand_n opposition_n for_o his_o resolution_n and_o at_o the_o first_o blush_n with_o some_o appearance_n because_o these_o word_n be_v set_v down_o in_o the_o opposition_n hereunto_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n answer_v that_o durand_n have_v he_o not_o be_v withhold_v by_o the_o counsel_n of_o lateran_n do_v in_o the_o deduction_n that_o he_o make_v sufficient_o show_v what_o his_o opinion_n be_v in_o this_o disputation_n of_o transubstantion_n when_o have_v propound_v this_o multiplicity_n of_o inconvenience_n he_o plain_o pronounce_v and_o can_v not_o be_v weary_a of_o it_o sacramento_n it_o durand_n in_o 4_o sentent_fw-fr d_o 11_o q._n 1._o foe_n 274._o bâ—ar_n 9_o lugduni_n apud_fw-la gasp_n à _fw-fr porton_n triu_fw-it 1.56_o quamuis_fw-la iste_fw-la modus_fw-la sit_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la tamen_fw-la negandum_fw-la quin_fw-la alius_fw-la modus_fw-la sit_fw-la deo_fw-la possibilis_fw-la ita_fw-la videlicet_fw-la quod_fw-la deus_fw-la posset_n sacore_n quod_fw-la remanente_fw-la subslantia_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o â—ini_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la christi_fw-la essent_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la sacramento_n we_o must_v not_o deny_v but_o there_o be_v another_o mean_v possible_a unto_o god_n the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n still_o remain_v albeit_o this_o mean_n be_v indeed_o etc._n etc._n again_o artic._n xi_o omit_v these_o word_n albeit_o this_o mean_n be_v indeed_o he_o repeat_v the_o same_o etc._n same_o item_n art_n 11._o p._n 75._o non_fw-fr eit_n tamen_fw-la negandum_fw-la quin_fw-la alius_fw-la â—odâ—s_n etc._n etc._n it_o can_v be_v deny_v etc._n etc._n again_o artic._n xiiii_o etc._n xiiii_o item_n art_n 14._o satis_fw-la etiam_fw-la durum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o derogare_fw-la videtur_fw-la immensiâ—ati_fw-la divinae_fw-la potentiae_fw-la dicere_fw-la quod_fw-la deus_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la facere_fw-la corpus_fw-la suum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o sacramento_fw-la per_fw-la alium_fw-la modum_fw-la quam_fw-la per_fw-la conversionem_fw-la substantiae_fw-la panis_fw-la in_o ipsum_fw-la maxim_n cum_fw-la ponendo_fw-la conversionem_fw-la fieri_fw-la difficilimun_fw-la est_fw-la videre_fw-la qualiter_fw-la ipsa_fw-la faciat_fw-la aliquid_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la sit_fw-la in_o sacramento_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v hard_a and_o seem_v to_o derogate_v to_o the_o infinite_a power_n of_o god_n to_o say_v that_o god_n can_v make_v his_o body_n to_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n by_o any_o other_o mean_v but_o by_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n thereinto_o especial_o consider_v that_o admit_v there_o be_v a_o connersion_n make_v yet_o it_o be_v very_o hard_a to_o perceive_v after_o what_o manner_n he_o do_v any_o thing_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n final_o ipsum_fw-la final_o rursus_fw-la paucis_fw-la interiectis_fw-la patet_fw-la ergo_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la temerarium_fw-la dicere_fw-la quod_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la divina_fw-la virtute_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o sacramento_fw-la nisi_fw-la per_fw-la conversionem_fw-la panisin_n ipsum_fw-la it_o do_v therefore_o appear_v that_o it_o be_v rashness_n to_o say_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n can_v by_v his_o divyne_a power_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o only_o by_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o bread_n thereinto_o all_o this_o proceed_n and_o that_o still_o from_o his_o own_o sense_n and_o not_o from_o any_o other_o body_n so_o great_o do_v this_o new_a interpretation_n set_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o the_o sacrament_n torment_v his_o mind_n then_o come_v to_o shut_v up_o his_o opinion_n according_a to_o the_o which_o the_o bread_n remain_v in_o the_o sacrament_n notwithstanding_o the_o reality_n without_o lay_v away_o transubstantiation_n ante_fw-la transubstantiation_n iten_n non_fw-la multo_fw-la posi_fw-la art_n 15._o si_fw-mi iste_fw-la modus_fw-la esset_fw-la verus_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la multae_fw-la dubâ—ationes_fw-la quae_fw-la occurrunt_fw-la circa_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la tenendo_fw-la quod_fw-la substantia_fw-la â—nis_fw-la non_fw-la â—emaneat_fw-la essent_fw-la solutae_fw-la dubitatur_fw-la enim_fw-la qualiter_fw-la ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramento_fw-la potest_fw-la 〈◊〉_d quid_fw-la nutriri_fw-la &_o quomodo_fw-la species_n possunt_fw-la corrumpi_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la else_o aliquid_fw-la generari_fw-la quae_fw-la omne_fw-la saluarentur_fw-la naturaliter_fw-la eo_fw-la modo_fw-la sicut_fw-la saluarentur_fw-la si_fw-la naturae_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la non_fw-la assumerentur_fw-la ad_fw-la naturam_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la ponuntur_fw-la enim_fw-la man_n ere_o post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la sicut_fw-la ante_fw-la if_o this_o mean_n say_v he_o be_v indeed_o true_a many_o difficultye_n remain_v in_o the_o sacrament_n by_o hold_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n remain_v not_o shall_v be_v resolve_v for_o it_o be_v doubt_v after_o what_o manner_n any_o thing_n can_v be_v nourish_v of_o this_o sacrament_n also_o how_o the_o form_n may_v be_v corrupt_v and_o how_o of_o the_o same_o any_o thing_n may_v be_v engender_v all_o which_o difficulty_n may_v natural_o be_v salve_v by_o this_o mean_n even_o as_o they_o may_v be_v salve_v if_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o take_v or_o employ_v for_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n for_o by_o this_o mean_v we_o do_v admit_v that_o they_o do_v remain_v after_o the_o consecration_n as_o before_o still_o speak_v in_o his_o own_o sense_n wherein_o we_o be_v especial_o to_o note_n that_o in_o his_o conclusion_n and_o speak_v in_o his_o own_o person_n he_o repeat_v the_o same_o word_n that_o we_o read_v in_o the_o opposition_n form_v in_o the_o name_n of_o a_o thyrd_o because_o these_o difficultye_n wherein_o he_o find_v no_o sufficient_a solution_n do_v stick_v in_o his_o stomach_n and_o in_o the_o end_n how_o do_v he_o satisfy_v himself_o sure_o even_o as_o scot_n have_v before_o do_v contrarium_fw-la do_v et_fw-la in_o fine_a be_v 15._o sed_fw-la quia_fw-la hic_fw-la modus_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la teneri_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la cum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la determinaverit_n oppositum_fw-la quçnon_fw-la presumitur_fw-la ertare_fw-la in_o talibus_fw-la ideo_fw-la tenendo_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la aliam_fw-la partem_fw-la respondendum_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la argumenta_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o contrarium_fw-la but_o say_v he_o in_o as_o much_o as_o this_o mean_n must_v not_o be_v hold_v in_o deed_n because_o the_o church_n have_v determine_v the_o contrary_a namely_o in_o the_o counsel_n of_o latran_n which_o it_o be_v to_o be_v presume_v do_v not_o err_v in_o such_o matter_n therefore_o it_o be_v that_o indeed_o hold_v the_o other_o part_n we_o must_v answer_v to_o the_o argument_n that_o be_v to_o the_o contrary_n and_o this_o be_v the_o answer_n that_o he_o make_v eccleasiasticae_fw-la make_v idem_fw-la art_n 16._o in_o his_o quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la fidei_fw-la non_fw-la semper_fw-la eligendum_fw-la est_fw-la eillud_fw-la ad_fw-la quod_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la pauciores_fw-la dissicultates_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la est_fw-la ponendum_fw-la magis_fw-la illud_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la consonum_fw-la dictis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la &_o tradicioni_fw-la eccleasiasticae_fw-la we_o must_v not_o always_o stand_v upon_o the_o sense_n that_o bring_v few_o
propheta_fw-la id_fw-la ipsum_fw-la significans_fw-la ait_fw-la frater_fw-la non_fw-la redimet_fw-la homo_fw-la frater_fw-la non_fw-la redimit_fw-la redimet_fw-la homo_fw-la the_o brother_n redeem_v not_o man_n shall_v redeem_v etc._n etc._n orationem_fw-la etc._n et_fw-fr pag._n 55._o etiamsi_fw-la inquit_fw-la moses_n adesset_fw-la atque_fw-la samuel_n tamen_fw-la corum_fw-la pro_fw-la talibus_fw-la deprecantium_fw-la non_fw-la reciperem_fw-la orationem_fw-la now_o say_v he_o albeit_o moses_n and_o samuel_n be_v present_a and_o shall_v pray_v for_o that_o people_n yet_o will_v i_o not_o receive_v their_o prayer_n like_o wise_a the_o more_o plain_o to_o show_v we_o that_o he_o speak_v of_o those_o man_n return_v into_o the_o estate_n of_o this_o life_n etc._n life_n 〈◊〉_d paulo_fw-la post_fw-la et_fw-la si_fw-la samuelâ—msum_fw-la â—msum_z pro_fw-la aliquo_fw-la indigno_fw-la deprecetur_fw-la â—â—ntinuo_fw-la ad_fw-la ipâ—â—m_fw-la diect_n deus_fw-la ne_fw-la lugeas_fw-la propter_fw-la saul_n etiamsi_fw-la pro_fw-la sorore_fw-la quupiam_fw-la incompetencur_fw-la oraverit_fw-la audiet_fw-la quod_fw-la moses_n etc._n etc._n and_o if_o samuel_n say_v he_o shall_v pray_v again_o for_o any_o unworthy_a person_n god_n will_v strayghtway_o say_v unto_o he_o mourn_v not_o for_o saul_n likewise_o if_o one_o shall_v pray_v unreasonable_o for_o his_o sister_n behold_v here_o what_o answer_n be_v make_v unto_o moses_n etc._n etc._n then_o do_v he_o add_v reddemur_fw-la add_v sequituâ—_fw-la habent_fw-la enim_fw-la vim_o pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la &_o quidem_fw-la maximam_fw-la orationes_fw-la supplicationes_fw-la quae_fw-la sanctorun_n sed_fw-la tune_n cum_fw-la nos_fw-la quoque_fw-la poenitentiam_fw-la egerimus_fw-la &_o meliores_fw-la reddemur_fw-la for_o the_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n of_o the_o saint_n for_o we_o be_v of_o great_a force_n but_o when_o ourselves_o also_o do_v repent_v and_o amend_v and_o of_o what_o saint_n that_o shall_v indeed_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o immediate_o follow_v erat_fw-la follow_v sequiter_fw-la immediatè_fw-la nam_fw-la etiam_fw-la moses_n qui_fw-la sratrem_fw-la suum_fw-la &_o sexcenta_fw-la illa_fw-la milia_fw-la armatorum_fw-la à _fw-la tam_fw-la dira_fw-la liberavit_fw-la ira_fw-la sorrem_fw-mi tamen_fw-la svam_fw-la nequivit_fw-la eripere_fw-la non_fw-la quip_n erat_fw-la aequale_fw-la peccatum_fw-la illa_fw-la enim_fw-la iniuriosius_fw-la de_fw-fr mose_n fuerat_fw-la quiddam_fw-la locuta_fw-la illic_fw-la vero_fw-la impietas_fw-la erat_fw-la quod_fw-la perpetratum_fw-la erat_fw-la for_o moses_n himself_o say_v he_o who_o deliver_v his_o brother_n and_o his_o 600000._o arm_a man_n from_o the_o fearful_a wrath_n of_o god_n can_v not_o nevert_v helesse_o warrant_v his_o sister_n albeit_o the_o sin_n be_v not_o equal_o alike_o for_o she_o have_v speak_v injurious_o of_o moses_n and_o on_o the_o other_o behalf_n the_o sin_n that_o have_v be_v commit_v be_v mere_a impiety_n then_o be_v it_o of_o the_o live_a saint_n &_o of_o the_o faithful_a that_o prey_n for_o the_o sin_n each_o of_o other_o there_o also_o follow_v many_o other_o example_n of_o the_o like_a nature_n of_o samuel_n pray_v and_o be_v hear_v for_o israel_n pray_v also_o but_o not_o hear_v for_o saul_n of_o jeremy_n hear_v when_o he_o pray_v for_o some_o and_o when_o he_o pray_v for_o the_o people_n not_o hear_v of_o daniel_n pray_v for_o the_o people_n and_o not_o hear_v and_o hear_v when_o he_o pray_v for_o the_o heathen_a etc._n etc._n reconciliare_fw-la etc._n et_fw-la in_o fine_a eiusd_v pag._n 55._o equibus_fw-la prosecto_fw-la redolet_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la negligentes_fw-la fuerimus_fw-la ac_fw-la desides_fw-la nec_fw-la per_fw-la aliorum_fw-la quidem_fw-la poterimus_fw-la merita_fw-la saluati_fw-la sin_n vero_fw-la sobriè_fw-la agemus_fw-la etiam_fw-la per_fw-la nosmetipsos_fw-la istud_fw-la valeamus_fw-la essicere_fw-la &_o multo_fw-la magis_fw-la per_fw-la nos_fw-la quam_fw-la per_fw-la alios_fw-la no_o &_o deus_fw-la gratiam_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la aliis_fw-la rogantibus_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la vult_fw-la donare_fw-la quam_fw-la nobis_fw-la quo_fw-la &_o fruamur_fw-la libertate_fw-la deum_fw-la compellandi_fw-la &_o emendemur_fw-la dum_fw-la ipsi_fw-la studemus_fw-la deum_fw-la reconciliare_fw-la whereby_o say_v he_o we_o do_v learn_v that_o if_o ourselves_o be_v slothful_a and_o negligent_a we_o can_v be_v save_v no_o not_o by_o the_o merd_n of_o other_o but_o if_o we_o sieve_n sober_o we_o may_v by_o ourselves_o and_o much_o rather_o by_o ourselves_o then_o by_o other_o for_o god_n will_v also_o show_v mercy_n not_o so_o much_o for_o then_o sake_n that_o pray_v for_o we_o as_o for_o our_o own_o that_o we_o may_v use_v the_o liberty_n of_o speak_v with_o god_n and_o labour_v to_o recencile_v ourselves_o to_o he_o may_v amend_v our_o buâ—â—s_n etc._n etc._n which_o again_o he_o proove_v by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o cananite_n of_o the_o evil_a live_a woman_n of_o the_o thief_n etc._n etc._n intercedente_fw-la etc._n sic_fw-la chananaeam_fw-la illam_fw-la aliquam_fw-la do_v miseratus_fw-la est_fw-la sic_fw-la etiam_fw-la meretrici_fw-la donavit_fw-la salutem_fw-la sic_fw-la latroâ—en_fw-la nullo_fw-la mediatore_fw-la intercedente_fw-la iâ—o_n who_o say_v he_o god_n give_v salvation_n not_o that_o any_o patron_n or_o mediator_n make_v intercession_n for_o they_o where_o then_o hitherto_o where_o be_v any_o other_o invocation_n or_o intercession_n other_o than_o the_o live_a saint_n not_o one_o word_n of_o the_o decease_a now_o do_v immediate_o follow_v the_o word_n now_o in_o question_n &_o let_v we_o take_v they_o even_o as_o he_o listen_v mandemus_fw-la listen_v sequitur_fw-la immediatè_fw-la et_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la eo_fw-la dicimus_fw-la ut_fw-la supplicandum_fw-la esse_fw-la sanctis_fw-la negemus_fw-la sed_fw-la ne_fw-la torpeamus_fw-la nevesupini_fw-la ipsi_fw-la &_o dormietes_fw-la aliis_fw-la tantunodo_fw-la nostra_fw-la curanda_fw-la mandemus_fw-la but_o we_o speak_v not_o these_o thing_n to_o deny_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v to_o the_o saint_n but_o that_o we_o shall_v beware_v that_o we_o suffer_v not_o ourselves_o to_o be_v overtake_v with_o sloth_n and_o carelessness_n and_o so_o fall_v on_o sleep_n commit_v the_o manage_v of_o our_o matter_n to_o other_o and_o then_o as_o in_o all_o other_o place_n the_o live_a saint_n not_o the_o decease_a here_o will_v the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr say_v again_o why_o shall_v he_o allege_v this_o place_n against_o the_o inuccation_n of_o saint_n decease_v since_o here_o be_v no_o mention_n but_o of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_a saint_n sure_o because_o he_o mean_v to_o undermine_v the_o very_a foundation_n of_o that_o confidence_n that_o man_n do_v repose_v in_o the_o holiness_n and_o merit_n of_o other_o as_o also_o as_o we_o say_v before_o that_o if_o we_o may_v not_o repose_v ourselves_o upon_o the_o prayer_n of_o those_o that_o do_v converse_v with_o we_o who_o condition_n we_o do_v know_v and_o they_o we_o and_o to_o who_o in_o charity_n we_o be_v commend_v by_o the_o lord_n and_o they_o to_o we_o much_o less_o upon_o the_o prayer_n of_o those_o that_o rest_n above_o as_o say_v saint_n john_n from_o all_o their_o labour_n who_o say_v s._n angustine_n unto_o we_o do_v not_o inter_v meddle_v with_o the_o affair_n of_o this_o world_n the_o measure_n of_o who_o knowledge_n we_o know_v not_o as_o likewise_o they_o know_v not_o the_o particular_a necessity_n of_o our_o condition_n otherwise_o shall_v they_o not_o be_v god_n whereof_o moreover_o we_o have_v neither_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n nor_o in_o the_o new_a either_o commandment_n example_n or_o promise_n whereas_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n conversant_a here_o among_o we_o one_o for_o a_o other_o stand_v both_o upon_o express_a commandment_n and_o ordinary_a practice_n all_o which_o notwithstanding_o sentence_v pass_v for_o the_o omission_n that_o these_o word_n et_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la eo_fw-la dicimus_fw-la ut_fw-la supplicandum_fw-la sanctis_fw-la esse_fw-la negemus_fw-la neither_o do_v i_o speak_v these_o thing_n to_o deny_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o saint_n etc._n etc._n aught_o to_o have_v be_v add_v for_o the_o groundwork_n that_o this_o homely_a be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o saint_n decease_v and_o all_o for_o want_v of_o read_v the_o text_n throughout_o as_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n instant_o require_v but_o the_o common_a error_n carry_v it_o away_o as_o if_o there_o have_v never_o be_v mention_n of_o any_o other_o saint_n but_o of_o the_o decease_a as_o if_o caris_n dei_fw-la adgeniculari_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la vincula_fw-la deosculari_fw-la to_o kneel_v to_o the_o belove_a of_o god_n to_o kiss_v the_o bond_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o tertullian_n and_o a_o thousand_o such_o other_o place_n in_o the_o father_n can_v be_v understand_v of_o other_o than_o those_o that_o be_v conversant_a here_o beneath_o among_o us._n the_o five_o place_n out_o of_o hieromy_n now_o follow_v the_o five_o take_v out_o of_o s._n hierom_n upon_o ezechiel_n lib._n 4._o ca._n 14._o 16._o lib._n 3._o of_o the_o â—uchar_n ch_n 14._o edir_n 1._o p._n 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o edit_n 2._o p._n 626._o l._n 15._o edit_n 3._o p._n 502_o l._n 16._o allege_v by_o the_o l._n of_o plessis_n p._n 583._o li._n 8._o against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n in_o these_o word_n poterunt_fw-la word_n
in_o silice_fw-la velta_fw-la marmoribus_fw-la humi_fw-la positis_fw-la insculpere_fw-la vel_fw-la pingere_fw-la too_o far_o from_o the_o letter_n or_o syllable_n also_o from_o the_o text_n to_o be_v either_o ingengred_a or_o corrupt_v the_o one_o by_o the_o other_o contrariwise_o that_o it_o be_v more_o likely_a that_o as_o superstition_n increase_v in_o the_o church_n in_o the_o day_n of_o justinian_n that_o tribonian_a accommodate_v that_o law_n of_o valens_n and_o theodosius_n to_o his_o time_n by_o add_v humi_fw-la which_o the_o learned_a cuiatius_fw-la and_o after_o he_o all_o other_o lawyer_n have_v note_v in_o sundry_a law_n as_o well_o of_o the_o common_a wealth_n as_o of_o the_o empire_n whereof_o likewise_o we_o have_v one_o testimony_n in_o matter_n of_o the_o cross_n for_o the_o punishment_n by_o the_o cross_n be_v by_o all_o christian_a emperor_n forbid_v in_o every_o place_n where_o the_o roman_a law_n have_v crucem_fw-la tribonian_n put_v in_o furcam_n infinite_a other_o like_a example_n may_v we_o allege_v beside_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n that_o this_o law_n shall_v seem_v more_o strange_a than_o the_o 36._o canon_n of_o the_o elibertin_n counsel_n depingatur_fw-la counsel_n council_n eliber_n c._n 36._o placuir_n picturas_fw-la in_o ecclesiis_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la debere_fw-la ne_fw-la quod_fw-la adoratur_fw-la in_o parietibus_fw-la depingatur_fw-la it_o have_v please_v or_o it_o have_v be_v think_v good_a that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o paint_n in_o the_o church_n to_o the_o end_n that_o which_o be_v worship_v shall_v not_o be_v paint_v on_o the_o wall_n for_o say_v the_o l._n of_o bless_v if_o the_o cross_n or_o crucifix_n be_v worship_v they_o be_v not_o then_o paint_v in_o the_o church_n if_o they_o be_v paint_v they_o be_v not_o then_o worship_v to_o this_o latter_a reason_n the_o l._n of_o eureux_fw-fr do_v reply_n that_o this_o canon_n be_v otherwise_o to_o be_v understand_v namely_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v paint_v 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apostolos_fw-la martyr_n tormenta_fw-mi patientes_fw-la nullum_fw-la ab_fw-la imaginibus_fw-la quas_fw-la aspicimus_fw-la auxilium_fw-la sperate_fw-la debemus_fw-la quia_fw-la nec_fw-la bene_fw-la nec_fw-la malè_fw-la possunt_fw-la facere_fw-la recte_fw-la nimirum_fw-la adeiusmodi_fw-la evacuandan_n superstitionem_fw-la ab_fw-la orthodoxis_fw-la patribus_fw-la definitum_fw-la est_fw-la picturas_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la fieri_fw-la non_fw-la debere_fw-la ne_fw-la quod_fw-la colitur_fw-la &_o adoratur_fw-la in_o parietibus_fw-la depingatur_fw-la albeit_o we_o see_v the_o angel_n paint_v with_o their_o wing_n the_o apostle_n preach_v the_o martyr_n suffer_v their_o torment_n yet_o be_v we_o not_o to_o hop_v for_o any_o succour_n from_o the_o jmage_n that_o we_o see_v for_o they_o can_v do_v neither_o good_a nor_o evil_a and_o therefore_o to_o root_v out_o this_o superstition_n the_o orthodorall_a father_n have_v very_o well_o decree_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o painting_n in_o 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pa._n 604._o li._n 9_o for_o thus_o they_o leap_v from_o one_o to_o another_o where_o he_o entreet_v of_o the_o conception_n of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n out_o of_o this_o epistle_n against_o the_o false_a honour_n attribute_v to_o the_o holy_a virgin_n be_v take_v these_o word_n she_o need_v no_o false_a honour_n be_v as_o she_o be_v at_o the_o fithâ—â—s_v thereof_o it_o be_v no_o honour_n but_o a_o take_n away_o of_o her_o honour_n the_o feast_n of_o her_o conception_n be_v never_o well_o institute_v which_o proposition_n the_o l._n of_o bless_v gather_v out_o of_o sundry_a place_n of_o this_o epistle_n and_o the_o l._n of_o eur._n pretend_v falsehood_n against_o this_o place_n because_o say_v he_o the_o lord_n of_o bless_v have_v omit_v that_o which_o come_v between_o the_o two_o clause_n magnifica_fw-la gratiae_fw-la inventricem_fw-la mediatricem_fw-la salutis_fw-la restauratricem_fw-la saeculorum_fw-la magnify_v the_o inventrix_fw-la of_o grace_n the_o mediatrixe_a of_o salvation_n the_o restoratrixe_a of_o the_o world_n etc._n etc._n the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n uphold_v that_o in_o this_o allegation_n he_o use_v neither_o maym_v nor_o fraud_n no_o fraud_n for_o he_o do_v not_o dissemble_v the_o commendation_n that_o s._n bernard_n attribute_v to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n where_o soon_o after_o he_o say_v that_o in_o other_o place_n s._n bernard_n help_v to_o advance_v the_o same_o abuse_n where_o he_o say_v o_o man_n thou_o have_v a_o sure_a access_n to_o god_n where_o the_o mother_n be_v before_o the_o son_n the_o son_n before_o the_o father_n the_o mother_n show_v her_o son_n her_o bosom_n and_o breast_n the_o son_n show_v the_o father_n his_o side_n and_o his_o wound_n what_o can_v be_v speak_v more_o sincere_o and_o do_v not_o this_o import_n more_o advantage_n than_o the_o word_n that_o the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr take_v hold_a of_o mediavicem_fw-la salutis_fw-la the_o mediatrixe_n of_o salvation_n which_o can_v be_v bear_v but_o so_o sarre_o forth_o as_o the_o virgin_n be_v the_o instrument_n of_o salvation_n neither_o true_o any_o maym_v for_o the_o clause_n be_v distinguish_v by_o great_a letter_n and_o which_o be_v more_o the_o same_o that_o concern_v the_o feast_n of_o the_o conception_n be_v repent_v in_o sundry_a place_n both_o before_o and_o after_o the_o same_o whereby_o the_o allegation_n do_v begin_v she_o need_v no_o false_a honour_n etc._n etc._n neither_o have_v the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n herein_o hurt_v any_o but_o himself_o in_o that_o labouringâ—_n after_o brevity_n he_o say_v not_o enough_o baint_v bernard_n say_v to_o the_o canon_n of_o lion_n etc._n lion_n bernard_n epist_n 174._o edit_n parision_n aâ—nd_v guâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 1566._o miramur_fw-la saris_fw-la quid_fw-la visum_fw-la sucrit_fw-fr hoc_fw-la teâ—_n pore_v quibuâ—â—an_n vestrum_fw-la voluisse_fw-la mutare_fw-la colorem_fw-la optimum_fw-la nonam_fw-la inducendo_fw-la celebritatem_fw-la quam_fw-la ritus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la neseit_n non_fw-la probat_fw-la rario_fw-la non_fw-la commendarantiqua_fw-la traditio_fw-la numquid_fw-la patribus_fw-la doctiores_fw-la aut_fw-la devotiores_fw-la sumus_fw-la periculose_v praesumimus_fw-la quicquid_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la in_o talibus_fw-la prudentia_fw-la praeterivet_n nec_fw-la verâ—â—d_n tale_n est_fw-la quod_fw-la nisi_fw-la praetereundum_fw-la sucrit_fw-fr partum_fw-la quiverit_fw-la omnino_fw-la diligentian_n praeteriisic_n at_o valde_fw-la honoranda_fw-la es_fw-la inquis_fw-la mater_fw-la domini_fw-la bene_fw-la admones_fw-la sed_fw-la honour_n reginae_fw-la iudicium_fw-la deligit_fw-la virgo_fw-la regius_fw-la falso_fw-la non_fw-la eget_fw-la honore_fw-la veris_fw-la cumulata_fw-la honorum_fw-la titulis_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v sure_o maruatle_v what_o toy_n have_v take_v some_o of_o you_o in_o the_o head_n to_o alter_v your_o good_a colour_n by_o bring_v in_o note_n for_o the_o conception_n a_o new_a feast_n which_o the_o coremony_n of_o the_o church_n know_v not_o which_o reason_n allow_v not_o which_o ancient_a tradition_n do_v not_o recommend_v be_v we_o either_o better_o learn_v or_o more_o devout_a than_o the_o father_n shall_v we_o presume_v or_o dare_v to_o undertake_v with_o peril_n all_o that_o in_o such_o matter_n their_o discretion_n have_v omit_v neither_o be_v this_o matter_n of_o so_o small_a importance_n that_o their_o diligence_n will_v in_o any_o
wise_a have_v omit_v it_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v to_o be_v omit_v but_o thou_o will_v say_v the_o mother_n of_o our_o lord_n must_v be_v honour_v thou_o give_v we_o good_a warning_n but_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o queen_n must_v be_v do_v unto_o she_o with_o judgement_n the_o royal_a virgin_n note_n for_o unmeete_a honour_n need_v no_o false_a honour_n be_v as_o she_o be_v lade_v with_o the_o true_a title_n of_o honour_n wherein_o we_o be_v then_o to_o note_v the_o true_a period_n cite_v by_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n even_o that_o which_o concern_v the_o conception_n and_o the_o other_o that_o touch_v the_o false_a honour_n attribute_v to_o the_o holy_a virgin_n immediate_o and_o in_o one_o sequence_n whereby_o he_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o add_v that_o which_o follow_v far_o enough_o off_o magnifica_fw-la gratiae_fw-la inventricem_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o have_v he_o undertake_v to_o set_v down_o the_o whole_a epistle_n he_o prosecute_v the_o reason_n in_o regard_n whereof_o the_o feast_n of_o the_o conception_n have_v no_o reason_n in_o a_o long_a discourse_n and_o towards_o the_o conclusion_n redouble_v the_o same_o sentence_n that_o he_o have_v set_v at_o the_o begin_n in_o his_o preface_n etc._n preface_n ibidem_fw-la sub_fw-la sinem_fw-la pag._n dico_fw-la gloriosam_fw-la de_fw-la spiritu_fw-la s._n concepisse_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la &_o conceptam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dico_fw-la peperisse_fw-la virginem_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la &_o partam_fw-la a_o virgin_n alioquin_fw-la ubi_fw-la erit_fw-la praerogativa_fw-la matris_fw-la domini_fw-la etc._n etc._n non_fw-la est_fw-la hoc_fw-la virginem_fw-la honorare_fw-la sed_fw-la honori_fw-la detrahere_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o say_v say_v he_o that_o the_o glorious_a virgin_n conceive_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o not_o that_o she_o be_v conceive_v that_o she_o a_o virgin_n bring_v forth_o a_o child_n not_o that_o she_o be_v chill_v of_o a_o virgin_n otherwise_o what_o prerogative_n be_v it_o to_o the_o mother_n of_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v no_o honour_v of_o the_o virgin_n but_o rather_o a_o abasement_n of_o her_o honour_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o levitatis_fw-la he_o et_fw-la paulò_fw-la post_fw-la cum_fw-la haec_fw-la ita_fw-la se_fw-la habeant_fw-la quaenam_fw-la iam_fw-la erit_fw-la festivae_fw-la ratio_fw-la conceptionis_fw-la quo_fw-la pacto_fw-la inquam_fw-la aut_fw-la sanctus_fw-la asseretur_fw-la conceptus_fw-la qui_fw-la de_fw-la spiritu_fw-la s._n non_fw-la est_fw-la ne_fw-la dicam_fw-la de_fw-fr peccato_fw-la est_fw-la aut_fw-la festus_fw-la habebitur_fw-la qui_fw-la minime_fw-la sanctus_fw-la est_fw-la libentur_fw-la gloriosa_fw-la hoc_fw-la honore_fw-la carebit_fw-la quo_fw-la vel_fw-la peccatum_fw-la honorari_fw-la vel_fw-la falsa_fw-la induci_fw-la videtur_fw-la sanctitas_fw-la alioquin_fw-la nulla_fw-la ei_fw-la ratione_fw-la placebit_fw-la contra_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ritum_fw-la praesumata_fw-la novitas_fw-la mater_fw-la temeritatis_fw-la soror_fw-la superstitionis_fw-la filia_fw-la levitatis_fw-la thing_n be_v at_o this_o pass_n what_o reason_n can_v there_o be_v to_o celebrate_v the_o conception_n i_o say_v how_o can_v we_o affirm_v the_o conception_n to_o be_v holy_a which_o be_v not_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n i_o will_v not_o say_v which_o be_v of_o sin_n or_o how_o shall_v we_o sanctify_v this_o conception_n which_o can_v be_v holy_a sure_o the_o holy_a virgin_n can_v be_v content_a to_o forbear_v this_o honour_n whereby_o her_o sin_n shall_v be_v honour_v or_o a_o false_a holiness_n bring_v in_o in_o another_o place_n no_o novelty_n presume_v without_o reason_n contrary_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n can_v she_o like_v of_o mother_n of_o rashness_n sister_n of_o superstition_n daughter_n of_o inconstancy_n or_o lightness_n then_o do_v he_o afterward_o refer_v himself_o to_o the_o decision_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o belong_v not_o to_o our_o purpose_n now_o let_v any_o upright_a mind_n judge_v whether_o there_o be_v any_o hold_n to_o be_v take_v against_o this_o place_n whereupon_o notwithstanding_o for_o the_o satisfy_n of_o his_o importunity_n it_o be_v pronounce_v that_o it_o have_v be_v good_a to_o distinguish_v the_o two_o place_n of_o s._n bernard_n in_o oneself_o book_n namely_o of_o this_o self_n epistle_n by_o one_o etc._n etc._n which_o nevertheless_o albeit_o repeat_v in_o two_o several_a place_n do_v immediate_o follow_v each_o other_o the_o nine_o place_n out_o of_o theodoret._n the_o nine_o be_v take_v out_o of_o theodoret_n upon_o the_o 113_o psalm_n allege_v by_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n pag._n 218._o lin_z 9_o in_o these_o word_n 13_o lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr euchar_n ch_n 2._o edit_n 1._o p._n 218._o l._n 9_o edit_n 2._o p._n 234._o l._n 21._o edit_n 3._o p._n 195_o l._n 13_o god_n say_v he_o do_v what_o he_o please_v but_o image_n be_v make_v as_o it_o please_v man_n they_o have_v the_o habitation_n of_o the_o sense_n but_o sense_n they_o have_v none_o be_v herein_o inferior_a to_o the_o fly_n flease_v and_o all_o vermin_n and_o it_o be_v meet_v that_o they_o that_o worship_v they_o shall_v loose_v both_o reason_n and_o sense_n and_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n have_v take_v the_o most_o substantial_a clause_n of_o this_o psalm_n but_o the_o lord_n of_o eur._n pretend_a falsehood_n in_o two_o respect_n in_o the_o translation_n because_o he_o express_v simulacra_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o image_n for_o he_o will_v have_v it_o idoâ—â—â—_n in_o omission_n because_o he_o have_v not_o set_v down_o a_o gentibus_fw-la culâ—a_fw-la worship_v or_o sâ—â—ued_v by_o the_o genâ—â—â—s_n to_o distinguish_v they_o say_v he_o from_o the_o image_n of_o the_o christian_n to_o the_o first_o the_o lord_n of_o plisâ—is_n answer_v that_o these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d simulachâ—a_n imagine_v do_v usual_o pass_v for_o one_o and_o this_o do_v the_o lord_n of_o plisâ—is_n offer_v he_o to_o prove_v but_o he_o will_v not_o enter_v thereinto_o and_o indeed_o in_o the_o 40._o of_o esay_n where_o the_o old_a interpreter_n say_v simulacrum_fw-la the_o septuaginte_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d image_n and_o in_o the_o 4._o of_o deutronomy_n the_o old_a interpreter_n translate_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d imaginem_fw-la the_o septuaginte_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o same_o old_a interpreter_n translate_v in_o the_o 33_o of_o the_o chronicle_n simulacrum_fw-la that_o which_o the_o septuaginte_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o first_o of_o the_o roman_n where_o s._n â—aâ—â—_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lombard_n caietan_n stapuiensis_n osorâ—us_fw-la &_o c._n â—â—ue_v translate_v simulacrum_fw-la in_o the_o scripture_n they_o be_v therefore_o indifferent_a for_o the_o father_n etc._n father_n just_a martyr_n in_o tryphone_n pag._n 251_o edit_n hierca_fw-la commel_n grae._n lat._n qut_fw-la per_fw-la mose_n â—â—sanxit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ne_fw-la qua_fw-la omnino_fw-la sieret_fw-la vel_fw-la imago_fw-la vel_fw-la simditudo_fw-la neque_fw-la corum_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o coelo_fw-la sunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n justm_n martyr_v layth_n that_o god_n forbid_v moses_n to_o make_v any_o image_n or_o similitude_n where_o the_o septuaginte_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d seruius_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tertullianus_n de_fw-fr idolelatria_n ch_n 3._o ex_fw-la edit_fw-la paâ—â—chi_n ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la necessaria_fw-la est_fw-la vocabusi_fw-la inâ—â—_n pretâ—tio_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d graece_fw-la fâ—rmâ—m_fw-la sonat_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la per_fw-la diminutionem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d deductum_fw-la aeque_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la formu_fw-la 〈…〉_o igitur_fw-la omnis_fw-la forma_fw-la vel_fw-la sormulo_fw-la idolu_fw-la se_fw-la dici_fw-la exposâ—it_fw-la inde_fw-la idololatria_fw-la omnis_fw-la circa_fw-la omne_fw-la idolum_fw-la samulatus_fw-la &_o seruius_fw-la tertullian_n eâ—â—â—s_o in_o greek_a signify_v form_n or_o figure_n whereof_o come_v the_o diminutive_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o we_o do_v interpret_v a_o small_a form_n or_o figure_n therefore_o every_o form_n or_o small_a sorgne_n must_v be_v call_v idolum_fw-la and_o thereof_o idolatry_n all_o honour_n and_o service_n that_o be_v do_v circa_fw-la omne_fw-la idolum_fw-la to_o any_o form_n or_o figure_n again_o lapideas_fw-la again_o fâ—_n cap._n 4._o qui_fw-la seruitis_fw-la lapidâ—bus_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la imagine_v sacitis_fw-la â—â—â—cas_fw-la &_o argeâ—â—eas_n &_o ligneas_fw-la &_o lapideas_fw-la you_o that_o serve_v the_o stone_n and_o that_o make_v jmage_n of_o gold_n and_o of_o silver_n and_o of_o wood_n and_o of_o stone_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o gentile_n idololatria_fw-la gentile_n item_n eoâ—um_n imaâ—â—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d imagiaâ—â—â—_n câ—â—scâ—ratio_fw-la idololatria_fw-la their_o image_n be_v jdol_n the_o conseâ—ratioon_n of_o image_n be_v jdolatry_n minuâ—ius_n felâ—x_n upon_o the_o reproach_n of_o the_o heathen_a celsus_n cast_v in_o his_o dish_n that_o the_o christian_n have_v no_o image_n colere_fw-la image_n minâ—â—_n â—elix_fw-la pagâ—5_n â—5_z edit_fw-la heidelberg_n quis_fw-la dubitat_fw-la hotum_fw-la imagine_v consâ—â—ratas_n vulgus_fw-la orare_fw-la &_o publicae_fw-la colere_fw-la who_o doubt_v say_v he_o but_o the_o