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Some reasons why the people called Quakers do absent from the publique way of worship and cannot conform thereunto though they are exposd to great sufferings because thereof and also why they cannot swear at all and whether if be out of obstinacy or conscientiousness resolved / presented in the love and fear of the Lord to the serious consideration of all justices and all others who are moderately enquiring into this matter by J.C.
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Crook, John, 1617-1699.
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Ministers of Christ that the truth makes free and that it is possible to know Christ so made manifest within as to destroy the Devils works and to save from sin and that he that is born of God sins not we say we believe that such a state is attainable on this side the grave and yet we do acknowledge there is a state the Saints knew and passed through in which if we should say we have no sin we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us but if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness and this was spoken to little Children in the truth that they should not sin Joh. 2. But there was Fathers that had known the truth and young men that were strong in whom the Word of God dwelt that had take notice overcome the wicked one many other things might be mentioned but these may be sufficient to shew why we deny that Ministry which hath not profited the People at all but they are proud and covetous as thousands do know Again we do absent from the publique way of Worship because of its deadness and formality because we cannot find that the immortal Souls of people are refreshed therein nor that any true and spiritual comfort is received thereby and we do believe and upon true search and examination do find and also are perswaded in our Consciences and that by the spirit of the Lord that the most part of their Ceremonies and practices in their Worship are but the vain Traditions of Men and no Heavenly divine institutions and we may say as the Apostle said in another case they do not make the Comers thereunto any whit the better but they are still miserable and dead and want that which only can give life and satisfaction to the soul to wit the Knowledge of Christs appearance in themselves and of his life and vertue We might mention many Ceremonies and practices and speak particularly to them but we would not be too tedious but do speak as to the whole in these few words And having seen these things that they want the spirit of the Lord to exercise them in their Worship that they are not born of it that they want the fruits of it that they force and persecute people that cannot for conscience sake conform to their way of Worship that their Ministry differs from the Ministry of Christ in Call Maintenance Conversation and Doctrine and is the very same which the false Prophets and Deceivers in the dayes of old being found in their very steps and practises c. That their worship is dead formal and carnal and doth not give satisfaction to the soul we cannot conform to it but have denyed it upon just ground and in Conscience to the Lord do absent from it and not out of obstinacy as some would accuse us And again we do absent from it because we have found a better way in which we can trust our soules and do find health and peace and spiritual comfort and true satisfaction in this way in which we now walk with the Lord and do worship him in spirit and truth and we do find his living presence in our Assemblings together in the worship and service of God for we meet together to wait upon him and to perform holy duty to him and do speak as his spirit moveth in us and gives us utterance and to pray in the spirit and this only is acceptable unto him and this is spiritual worship when the spirit of the Lord exerciseth Man in the things he performeth towards God and if his spirit doth not stir or move in us we are silent waiting to hear the Lord speaking in our soules and this is according to the Saints practise and because we have found great peace and satisfaction to our soules in this way in which we now walk we cannot deny it what ever we suffer and we do choose rather to obey the Lord that we may have and feel his peace in our hearts then to obey Men to avoid all sufferings And because we would not loose that peace and make shiprack of our faith we cannot conform to the publick way of worship and not out of any wilfulness or obstinacy and we do desire to spend our dayes in the fear of God and to walk in justness and righteousness towards all Men and to do unto every Man as we would they should do unto us and to love God with all our hearts and our neighbours as our selves and to avoid the sins and gross iniquities and abominations that do daily abound among those that are of the publick way of worship and we dare not riot in the day time nor spend our precious time in vanity nor wast Gods good Creatures and spend them upon the lusts which will be the cause of Gods severe Judgments to come upon Men and Nations and we cannot go with multitudes to do evil but must have respect to the Lord God that made us to live unto him that we may dye in his love and favour and that we may be Heires of that Kingdom which is everlasting into which the sayers Lord Lord must not enter but those that do his will and this is that we seek and which is our only end and aim the Lord knowes and if for this we must be hated and afflicted we cannot help it for we must not deny the Lord but will trust in him though we dye and perish outwardly for our obedience to him and because this is our desire and resolution we do absent from the publick way of worship and cannot have fellowship with the unfruitfull workers and workes of darkness but do rather reprove them And as for our refusing to swear we would have all men to know That it is not out of obstinacy or wilfulness that we do refuse or as though we had any reserve to our selves because we cannot swear Allegiance to the King as if we would plot or contrive mischief against him No God knowes and his people knowes and the witness of God in the Consciences of our very adversaries will one day testifie for us that this is not the cause why we refuse to swear but it is only and singly in pure obedience and Conscience to the Lord Jesus Christ who hath said swear not at all and this is his command unto his followers though it was said by them of old time thou shalt not forswear thy self but shalt perform thine Oathes unto the Lord they might then swear for it was commanded but now Christ being come who is the end of the Law and fulfiller of it saith Swear not at all by which it is cleer that all swearing is forbiden for the Law did forbid and prohibit all vain and frivoless swearing and if these words of Christ did reach no further then to prohibit that as some would limit them then Christ had only forbid that which before was forbiden
SOME REASONS WHY The People called QVAKERS do absent from the Publique way of Worship and cannot Conform thereunto though they are exposed to great sufferings because thereof AND ALSO Why they cannot Swear at all and whether it be out of Obstinacy or Conscientiousness resolved PRESENTED In the love and fear of the Lord to the serious Consideration of all Justices and all others who are moderately enquiring into this matter by J. C. WEE are a People that have desired and diligently enquired after the true knowledge of God the way in which he is Worshipped in which way we desire to walk and after much seeking and serious consideration we do find and are perswaded in our hearts and Consciences First That God is a Spirit and that his Worship is Spiritual according as Christ hath said Joh. 4.24 and that none are true Worshippers but such as worship in the spirit and in truth Secondly That Men must first Feel and receive a measure of the Spirit of the Lord before they can come to know the true way of Worship which is only learned in the Spirit Ver. 22 23. Thirdly That no Man upon the Earth can or ought to prescribe how or after what manner God Almighty is to be Worshipped so as to impose any practices upon Men but is to leave that to him to direct them by his good Spirit in things pertaining to his Worship and he is to perswade them thereunto and that they ought not to be compelled or forced to the true Worship much less to that which is so justly suspected by many people not to be the true way of Worship And it doth appear to us that the publique way of Worship or the Worship of the Church of England is very much different from this Spiritual Worship for we do see that they have not received the measure of the Spirit of Christ which leads into all truth but they do daily rebell and transgress against it doing those things that they should not and leaving undone those things which they ought to do so that they are without Spiritual health these cannot be the spiritual Worshippers for they that do worship in the Spirit do feel health and peace in it and therefore we have good reason to absent from the publique way of Worship And because that those that do frequent that Worship are not born again of the Spirit of Christ Joh. 3.3 but are still in an unregenerate state following the pleasures and vanities of sin and do live in all manner of wickedness as swearing lying drunkenness whoredom murder cousening and cheating and what other evils may be mentioned but may be found among those Worshippers and these are the works and fruits of the flesh and not of the spirit of God Gal. 5. and therefore we do absent from that Worship Besides they do not seek to draw and win People by love and tenderness and by the example of a good Conversation but do labour by violent force and compulsion to bring People to their Worship which the true Worshippers and Christians never did and do persecute and cause such to suffer who are otherwise minded that cannot come to their Church and Worship according to their prescriptions which the true Worshippers never did but said if any were otherwise minded God should reveal the same unto them Phil. 3.15 and they did not by force impose their Religion upon others But we do believe that that way of imposing of Religion upon People is of Antichrist and that all that ever do so impose are in the way of Antichrist and we do and must absent from them And also we find their Ministry is much different from the Ministry of the true Church of Christ both in call maintenance Doctrine and Conversation for they were Ministers of the Spirit and not of the Letter 2 Cor. 3. neither were they called by man nor taught by man the things which they did preach neither did they receive it from man but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ Gal. 1. and they had received his Spirit by which the deep things of God are revealed 1 Cor. 2. But these Ministers are made at Oxford or Cambridge by learning Natural Languages and old Books and Authors and serve such a time there before they go forth and when they have attain'd that then they run when the Lord never sent them and they use their congues and say he saith it when the Lord never spoke to them nor called them forth to preach his Word but they are made Ministers by man and sent out by man and two or three hundred pounds a year calls them thither and there they will stay for their bellies and such the true Prophets and servants of the Lord witnessed against as may be seen Isa 56. Jer. 23. Mich. 3. and the Ministers of Christ did give freely as they had freely received according to Christ command Mat. 10. But these Ministers receives and forces Tythes from the People which Christ came to put an end to Rom. 10.4 And the Apostle said the Priesthood being changed there is made of necessity a change also of the Law by which Law Tythes were paid Heb. 7. which the Ministers of Christ never received much less to force people to pay them but did witness against them for they pertained only to the Priests of the first Covenant and so in their maintenance we find them contrary to the Ministers of Christ and also they differ in their Doctrine for the Ministers of Christ did preach that People might wait to receive Christ into their hearts and that they might know Christ in them else they were reprobates and if Christ was in them the body was dead because of sin and they came to be dead unto sin and every particular Member of their Church was to know the Spirit of Christ in them and if any man had not the Spirit of Christ he was none of his c. Romans 8. But these Ministers tells the people that they are Christians and the Church of Christ though they know nothing of this in them but do live wickedly in sin and unrighteousness and are dead to truth and feel nothing of the opperation of the spirit of Christ in them but do still sin against it doing that they should not do and leaveing undone that which they should do and are not saved from sin nor made free by the truth and they tell them they must never expect to be free from sin nor to know the Revelation of Jesus Christ as former Christians did nor to know the power of God to work mightily and effectually in them to destroy the workes of the Devil while they are on this side the grave and so still keeps them in blindness and ignorance ever learning but still laden with fin and divers lusts and never able to come to the knowledge of the Truth which makes free as we have seen and therefore we have denyed them and we do believe with the