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An occasional dialogue at a coffee-house, between Philanax Britannicus, and Calophilus Anglus, two loyal English gentlemen, sincere lovers of justice, truth, and their nations honour / authore Coffo-Philo.
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Carr, William.
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1667
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Wing O1230; ESTC R181170
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pleased to wade so far in this Discourse let me give you the trouble to satisfie me how Carr became Clerk of the Guard under the Lord Gerard for I now perceive he had better and more safe Employments than to rake after a Livelihood in a place of so much Temptation Corruption and Hazard under so harsh a Master for to speak ingeniously we that have followed the Court have had sad experience of his Lordships passionate miscarriages and do know that no Servant did ever thrive under him nor any Transaction prosper in his own management witness the Welsh Affair the ill success whereof proved fatal to that Renowned Prince His late Majesty of blessed Memory To which I may add That dangerous and prodigiously desperate Revolt at Newark no less Enormity Cal. Pardon my interruption for I think strange you say that none of my Lords servants have enriched themselves since their Employments are of so great a Trust for I have heard say That when William Lawes a near servant of his Lordships was kill'd at Chester the Lord Gerard mist Ten thousand pounds in Jewels and Money And that one Bedell who left his Lordships service Cozened him of God knows not what and some say nor his Lordship neither Yet I find the same Bedell afterwards admitted into the Lord Ashley Cooper's service who gave him such Preferment as became a generous Master to a faithful Servant and it 's reported with like truth That Carr went away from his Lordship with Twenty thousand pounds And now I shall proceed to give you an account of Carrs Seven years Apprentiship under the Lord Gerard and the Guard Sir In that happy year of Englands Jubile 1660 Carr being at Breda was presented to His Majesty as one worthy of and fit for Employ at that time his Evil Star as he usually calls it directs him to the Lord Gerards knowledge who after two or three dayes time desires Carr to present him with the Module of Cromwel's Guard who had by him most of the Establishment of that Army which he did but the Rules did not altogether please his Lordship Yet Carr was presently employed at the Hague to List a Life-guard to be Established in England at Ten shillings per diem each Guard-man as was then reported And now Carr was proffered a more proper Employment for him under the Lord Chancellor whose counsel he hath often since wished he had followed for his Lordship was pleased to tell Carr though then but a stranger the Guards would never prove what the Lord Gerard said they would be which many an undone younger Brother hath since found by woful experience But the Lord Gerard told Carr he was a Fool to look for any other place for that of the Guard should be a profitable Imploy I presume his Lordship meant to himself as by the sequel appears for I have heard it will be proved He exacts 2000 l. a year out of the Gentlemen over and above the just Pay belonging to his Lordship which is converted into French Bees Cloaths and Kickshaws Alamode and Carr bore all the blame burden and many curses to boot Phil. I pray Sir tell me how this Money was exacted unjustly let me know the particulars Cal. The Guard consisted for three quarters of a year of 800 Gentlemen modestly counted before there was any establishment or put into Pay at the establishment the 800 were reduced to 200 and here began Carr's misery for those only were established who could and did present as Ben. Gostin who gave a Jepan Trunk and Cabinets with other things and lent the Lady Gerard 250 l. not yet paid as I am credibly informed And here it is necessary likewise that I give you a rellish of those that bought their places John Parson the Brewers Son for 100 l. was with great difficulty established William Crowder for a Diamond Ring Mr. Man for 50 l. Mr. Hill for 50 l. And Mr. Richard â—luellin for 200 l. was established a Titular Marshal by a Captain General of the Guards And likewise there was Snape the Kings Farrier who gave the sum of 80 l. to be a Titular Farrier to the Guard and poor Thomas Woodall for all his Cabinet to the Lady and his several Treats was turned out and his place sold for 250 l. to Nathaniel Hubbard but every Gentleman whether Loyal or not must pay 5 l. for his preheminency and priviledge on a bit of Parchment subscribed Charles Gerard with a large Coat of Arms to it and a good peniworth too for some paid 50 l. for the same Ticket to serve for a Protection against a Ne exeat Regnum as I. G. and Alderman Waynwright did and more decayed Citizens and others still protected against the Law though of Posthumus Priestmans grain Phil. But I pray you Sir How can the Lord Gerard answer the keeping in of such young men who never served the King but rather against Him as John Lewin who was Lockart 's man at Dunkirk and was turned away for Cozening a Serving-man of Ten shillings which was given for a Cheshire Cheese presented to Lockart as Sir Gilbert Gerard hath often told me and many others And Whitworth a Pedlar that sold Tobacco up and down the Countrey who bore Arms against his King in Sir George Booth 's business and whose father was that famous Sequestrator and seller of the Kings and His Loyal Subjects Lands in Cheshire Cal. Sir I perceive you know these particular persons and passages but the Reasons why they are continued I shall leave to his Lordships discovery who best knows those Mysteries But if you ask me Why others His Majesties Loyal Subjects were turn'd out It 's said by persons of Credit That Richard Pastow now Foot-Souldier in the Tower was turn'd out because he took a Papist Priest that had Ruined many Families Major Conquest because no Boon-grace Another because he limped with the Wounds he received in His Majesties Service And one because he could or would not wear a Perriwig And another because he could not sit a Horse being a Justee One because a Damn'd English Clown Another for not having Shoppo Cordbeck And some for being Superannueted as Sir Horatio Cary Colonel Pritty and Mr. Gilmore whom Sir Philip Howard received afterwards into his Troop to his Honour as young enough to perform Duty being recommended to him by the charitable Gallantry of the Renowned General Phil. But Sir Is it true what is hinted That the Lord Gerard should reap Profits out of the Souldiers Belts Hooses and Feathers Cal. All I can say to that Sir is That I will deliver nothing concerning the Lord Gerard upon common Fame which proves often true nor will I suffer my Judgment to be swayed by Vox Populi though reputed Vox Dei but will present you with some particulars herein As first Gladwin the Belt-maker of the New Exchange gave his Lordship 50 l. out of the Belts And Mr. Walters the Sadler gave 100 l. out of the Hooses
And out of the Feathers which came from France for the Guard his Lordship got largely besides 20 l. for his man Dickett who went over to buy them and his Lordships French Gallantry for his Equip at the Coronation And here I must take the liberty to give you some particular Instances in Answer to a former Question of yours which was How his Lordship could raise his Exactions personally upon the Gentlemen of the Guard First Mr. Francis Cornwell had 14 Months pay drawn from him at twice John Bryers once four Months and another time two Months pay Colonel Pritty and Major Cooper each a Musters pay deducted from them Mr. Edward Thornebrough five Months pay because he fought with Richard Hallins and Hallins four Months pay for fighting with Thornebrough Mr. Read because he did not fight nine Months pay And Mr. William because he would not fight had six Months pay substracted from him and so fight or not fight this Plow must go Nay out of the very Horses feeding at the Guard there must be a dark Lanthorn agreement for some petty gain which William Barker can very well tell and hath confest the hardship received from But this is not all his Lordships Agents menial Servants and Witnesses made use of upon what hard terms God and his Lordship best knows must be gratified with some By-profits and Pay to the King and Subjects cost viz. famous Thomas Colt my Lords old servant and Gentleman of the Horse must have 50 l. to put in Miles Michell his Agent Mr. Dobson must be constantly in Pay but never at Duty both the Hollinsheads though living in Lancashire and Cheshire Mr. Whitworth Mr. Dickett with other his Lordships servants who have no Wages but constant Guards-pay All this is over and above the 2000 l. per Annum exacted as before and many a Boon Jour for my Lady And here I must reflect with much reluctancy upon that great mischief and disgrace hath befallen the poor Gentlemen of the Guard by stopping altogether or delaying their Pay for when at their friends costs equipt out for the Guard Riding so long without Pay some to supply their present pressing necessities have been put to shameful shifts others to Rob on the High-way for which some of them have been hanged as Mr. Atkinson and Mr. Cotter Others condemned as W. S. H. B. and I. O. who got Pardons Phil. My worthy friend you strike me with astonishment to think that this should be so which must of necessity come to pass by the grand abuse and strange mismanagement of His Majesties Pay which to my own knowledge is the most and most ready Pay in the World and is therefore the fitter for young Gentlemen of good Families to give them a competent subsistence and honourable Military education and such chiefly ought to be admitted into the Guards Cal. Now Sir you mind me of another great disparagement put upon the Guard for quite contrary to what you say persons of meanest Birth and sordid Conversation and Citizens that have Out-lived their Estates and Esteems are entertained in the Guard for their Money and there protected against the Laws of this Kingdom and their Creditors just and due Demands which sometimes tends to the Ruine of the Creditors if not so yet they are commonly exposed to a great deal of trouble and loss I could instance in Alderman Waynwright and several others But I must break off this Discourse for a little while my dear friend because I have a mind to a Pipe of Tobacco and a Dish of Coffee and then we will discourse further Phil. Well Sir now since your Pipe is out and you have taken your Dish I would desire you to satisfie me in one thing which I shall propose to you Whether or no Carr was not Jack in many Offices under the Lord Gerard beside Clerk of the Guard Cal. Yes Sir Mr. Carr I well know did often sollicit the Lord Gerards other Affairs to his cost and lent and procured Money for him when none else would or could 200 l. he lent his Lordship when he came first for England yet unpaid and I am sure the Lady often borrowed Money of Mr. Carr sometimes on her Jewels which her Ladiship once pawned at Mr. Carrs house and soon after desired to borrow them for a Dancing night but the Jewels cut such a Caper that Carr never saw them nor his Money to this day but was forced to take her Ladiships Bill for payment Alamode and is yet out of his Money which is No boone English fashion And one passage more I know certainly That Carr having a House in Covent-garden which he Lett to Sir John Talbott for 100 l. Fine and certain Rent whereof he received a piece of old Gold in earnest but was by the Lord Gerards imperious importunity compelled to be unjust and break his promise with Sir John Talbott whose favour and friendship thereby he lost and Money to boot For when the Lord Gerard got interest in the house he sold the Lease thereof for 500 l. profit to Sir Thomas Draper Phil. I am exceedingly perplexed my most faithful Friend to hear what you assert concerning the Lord Gerard and make so clearly out and was alwayes afraid that a man of his Lordships temper should be employed in such high Trusts which by his Ambition and Covetousness might be perverted to the Disservice of the Nation and Disobliging the Subject and especially the Loyal Military Gentlemen by his indecorous Austerity for the Rules of general Reason never lose their force when put in practice Vis non corrigit sed irritat non coercit sed provocat violentia But Sir though Recrimination is no defence I hear Carr much blamed concerning the Military Ground taken from that Corporation Cal. Concerning that Carr doth publickly Aver That the Lord Gerard onely purchasing a Lease from Haines Wilcocke and others Terre-Tenants to that Company which though now expired under colour thereof his Lordship hath pluckt down and altered much of that Free-hold destroyed the Library and imbezeled the Goods belonging to the Company and though Carr at that instant might be somewhat subservient to his Lordships impetuous Commands and thereby undeservedly lost much of his Neighbors love he both will and can assist the Company in regaining their Estates to which he openly declares he will contribute his utmost endeavours which I conceive is all the satisfaction can be desired in that particular And truly Sir I am both ashamed and grieved to hear what is reported concerning the Lord Gerard's management of the business of Enfield Chase for your further satisfaction wherein I shall refer you to your honourable Friend the Earl of Salisbury and to my good acquaintance old Norris Bats and Barter turn'd out by his Lordship though great Sufferers for their Loyalty and the Neighbours about the Chase take little felicity in his Lordships Vicinity and Barnet with the adjacent Towns complain heavily That his Lordships Steward is the