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A08533	The picture of a Puritane: or, A relation of the opinions, qualities, and practises of the Anabaptists in Germanie, and of the Puritanes in England VVherein is firmely prooued, that the Puritanes doe resemble the Anabaptists, in aboue fourescore seuerall thinges. By Oliuer Ormerod, of Emmanuel Colledge in Cambridge. Wherunto is annexed a short treatise, entituled, Puritano-papismus: or a discouerie of Puritan-papisme.	Ormerod, Oliver, 1580?-1626.	1605 (1605)	STC 18852; ESTC S113478	77,758	124

one Th●m●● Mu●cer in Germanye who taught that God euen in these daies doth reueale his will by d●eames visions and reuelations c Ipseme● mihi coram pr●misit c. Sl●●dan C●● ● God saith hee hath wa●●āted ●e face to face he that cannot lye hath commaunded me to attempt the change by these meanes euen by killing the Magistr●tes And Phifer his lewde companion did but dreame in the night time of the killing of many Mice present●ye expounded his dreame of murthering the Nobles Yea at Sangall●● a Towne in Switherland one of our Anabaptists did as d Suriu● in coment S●●ius reporteth cut off the head of his owne natural Brother the Parents to them both standing by And the reason which hee had for dooing it wa● forsooth because it was commaunded him from aboue Now tell mee was there euer any such fellowes in England Englishman Yes there was one a See the consp●● Page 42. Hacket that tolde the people that God had reuealed his will vnto him extraordinarily and that he had receiued an imediate calling from God to reforme the Church and to cal the whole world to repentance There was also a b Conspir pag 14. Puritan preacher that informed the said Hacket that God doth wil from time to time rayse vp extraordinary workes and helpers to his Church as Apostles Euang elist● and Prophets where neede requireth And for the proofe of this his opinion hee produced the example of one that cryedvp and downe the streetes in Ierusalem before it was besiedged The Germaine Yea but was this Hacket a Puritane your Puritanes happily will not acknowledge him to be one of their side The Englishman Yes that hee was a Puritane it may appeare by these his Puritane trickes viz 1. c For the proof of al these particulars following I referre you to a Booke extant enti●●led the conspiracie of pretēded reformation page 4. 1● 14. 34. 3● He followed such Preachers at did fitte his humor and would not heare Maister Ray the Preacher of the Townew here he dwelt 2. Hee burned in desire of reforming the Church and Common-wealth 3. Hee had some of the Bretheren to fast with him before he attempted his reformation 4. Hee purposed to plant in euery congr●gation an clder shippe or consistone of Doctors Past●rs Lay-●lders and widowes 5 He rayled on the Bishops and on all other that withstood this his reformation But what need I stand to proue this who knoweth not how that hee and his two counterfet Prophets the selfe-same day they arose in Cheap-side tolde the said Puritan-preacher in the morning that reformation and the Lords discipline should then forth-with he established They did also charge him to put all Christians in comforte that they should shortly see a ioyfull alteration in the state of the Church-gouernment Thus you see how that we haue confitentemreum the confession of his owne lips against him-selfe so that there needs no more to doe as Dauid spake to the young man that brought newes of the death of Saul Os tuum contra te loqutum est thine owne mouth hath spoken against thee The Germaine Yea but was that Preacher a Puritane that auouched extraordinary callings by the example of him that cryed vp and downe the streetes of Hierusalem before it was besiedged The Englishman Yes for hee was d See the conspir pag. 2 Vicar of S●dbergo and Dent in the Northern partes and for his intolerable insolencies and contempt of the gouernment of the Church was both depriued of that his Benefice and deposed from the Ministerie by the authoritie of our late Soueraignes Commission for causes Ecclesiasticall But to proceede in order did there euer arise vp amongest the Anabaptists any such like Prophets as these were The Germaine Yes in the month of Iuly Anno Dom. 1533. a new Prophet beeing a Gold-smith by his trade arose vp amongst them who called the multitude together into the market-place and signified vnto them that it was the will of God that Iohn of L●yden should be Emperour of all the Earth and that hee should destroye all Princes and Potentates but spare the common people that loued sinceritie The Englishman As your Iohn of Leyden was Proclaimed Emperour by the Golde-smith Anno Dom. 1533. so was a See the conspir Page 66. Hacket proclamed King by his counterfet Prophets the 33. yere of the Raigne of our late Soueraigne Queene of famous memory But proceed on I pray you in this matter The Germaine IN the said yere of our Lord about the end of December The 81. sēblance one of our Anabaptists pretending himselfe to be diuinely inspired and rauished in spirit did goe through the street of the Citie of Munster crying Repent repent and be againe Baptized or else the iudgement and wrath of God will quickely or suddenly fall vpon you The Englishman So in the said yeere of our late Queenes raigne vpon the 16. of Iuly in the morning did b See the consp pag. 55. 56. the Annales of England collected by Iohn Stowe pag. 1288. Hackets said Prophets goe from one Walkers house neere vnto Broken-Wharfe in London and going from thence by Watlingstreete Olde-Change toward Cheapside cryed out and said Christ Iesus is come with his Fanne in his hand to iudge the earth Repent England repent repent But now to conclude this whole discourse what other outragious villanie committed your Anabaptists The Germaine The 82. sēblance Truely they joyned their forces together and made an insurrection as you may read in Sleidan and in other of our Germaine writers The Englishman So did Hacket likewise commit Treason against our late Queenes Majestie in the three and thirtith yeare of her Raigne and for the same was arraigned on the 26. of Iuly immediately following and c See the Annales of England pag. 1289 by tw● seuerall inditements found guiltie as to haue vttered and spoken diuers moste false trayterous wordes against her Maiesty to haue raced and defaced her Maiesties Armes as also a certaine Picture of the Queenes Maiestie and did malicionsly and trayterously thrust an iron instrument into that parte of the said Picture that did represent the Breast and Heart of the Queens Maiestie God Almightle who preserued her Majestie from the Trayterous stratagems of all her enemies and gathered her to her Fathers in peace Preserue him likewise that sitteth on her Throne after her and when he is gathered to his Fathers the woe whereof fall vpon an other age let him goe to rest with greater tokens of his fauour then euer to fall into the handes of such Anabaptisticall Puritanes o● any other Trayterous enemies The Germaine Euen so Lord Iesu Amen Amen Puritano-papismus OR A Discouerie of Puritan-papisme made by way of Dialogue or conference betweene a Protestant and a Puritane The 1. Dialogue Wherein is plainely shewed that the Puritanes haue in sundry things ioyned with the Pharisies Apostolickes Aerians Pepuzians Petrobrusians Florinians Cerinthians

other sleights besides these that you haue already mencioned The Germaine The 9. semblance YEs b Sleidan in C●m 5. there was one Thomas Muncer a Preacher who as Sleidan and other Germaine-writers reporte did greately labour both by his conferences in priuate by his Sermons in publike to draw the common people from their liking of the present estate The Englishman It hath likewise beene the practise of our factious preachers in their verball Sermons to speake against the stat● ecclesiasticall the book of common prayer the rites ceremonies of the Church of England For the proofe heereof I referre you to the very confession of their owne lippes On Tuesday saith c Anno 1586. one of their owne side T. C. kept Maister Fens Lecture the Text Psalme 122 4. Vnto the end taking thornes as T●emelius doth and vrging the discipline the want whereof he affirmed to be the cause that some friendes for sooke our Church And as this is the practise of some of our factious Ministers in England so is it also the practise of the same faction in Scotland Yea d 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Page 38. 39. they snapper out grosselye with the truth of their intentions informing the people that all Kinges and Princes are naturally enemies to the libertye of the Church and can neuer patientlye beare the yoake of Christ with such sound Doctrine fed they their flockes The Germaine The 10. Sēblance THe Anabaptists did not content themselues therewithal but to the end they might doe y● more harme they published factious Bookes to the view of the world as may bee gathered by this speech of Maister Zuinglius to the Magistrates in his time a Zuinglius de Baptism Si hoc cuiuis hominum impune facere licebit vt quae priuato suae rationis consilio adinuenit in vulgus spergat inconsulta imo resistente etiam vniuersatotius ecclesiae authoritate breui plus errorum quam fidelium Christianorum in ecclesia erit cernere If it bee lawfull for euery man to publish abroad among the people those thinges which he hath deuised of his owne head before he hath consulted with the Church nay against the authoritie of the whole Church in short time we shall see more errours in the Church then there be faithful men and Christians And in an other place Si hoc permittamus vt capitosus quisque male-feriatus homo c. If we suffer euery headie braineles fellow so soone as he hath conceiued any new thing in his minde to publish it abroad gather disciples and make a new sect in short time we shall haue so many sects factions that Christ which scarse with a great paine and labour is brought to vnitie in euery church should be deuided againe into many parts The Englishman Neyther did our Puritanes therewithall content themselues but that their poyson might ranckle the farther to the disturbance perrill both of the Church common-wealth they haue published a great number of Bookes which are as fit for the fire as the Bookes of curious Artes Act. 19. Yea and they haue also exhorted the common-people to peruse these their sedicious Pamphlets I pray you say they b In a Booke of theirs entituled the state of the church of England c. Page 10. when you come to London see if you can get these bookes The Ecclesiastical Discipline A learned discourse of Ecclesiasticall gouernment The Counterpoyson A Se●mon on the 12. to the Romans and Ma●ster Cartwights last reply some of which bookes haue been extant this dozen yeares and yet are not them answered and you shall there finde that the gouernment of the Church is contrary to the word of God But not to speake onely of their Bookes in g●nerall l●t vs take a view of the Contents thereof in particular The Germaine Our Sectaries did stuffe their bookes with inuectiues and out-cries both against the Magistracie and the Ministerie TO begin with the Magistracie they taught as Maister The 11. sēblance a Bulling aduers Anabap. Fol. 19. Bullinger also recordeth that the Ci●il Magistrate hath no authoritie in Ecclesiasticall matters and that hee ought not to meddle in causes of Religion and Faith The Englishman Our Sectaries come not farre behinde them heerein as appeareth by these their spee●hes b T. C. lib. 1. Page 192 for the making of orders and ceremonies in the Church saith T. C. they doe where there is a constituted ordered Church pertaine vnto the Ministers of the church and to the Ecclesiasticall gouernours and that as they meddle not with the making of ciuill Lawes and Lawes for the common-wealth so the ciuill Magistrate hath not to ordaine ceremonies partaining to the Church c T. C lib 2 Page 1●5 And againe No ciuil Magistrates in councels or assemblies for Church-matters can eyther be chiefe moderator ouer-ruler Iudge or d●t●rminer d Admon 2 No ciuil Magistrate say the admonitors hath such authoritie as that without his consent it should not be lawfull for ecclesiasticall persons to make any church-order or ceremonie e Admon 1 And againe To these three ioyntlie that is the Ministers Seniors and D●acons is the whole regiment of the Church to be committed By this you may see that our Sectaries doe shake hands both with the Anabaptists the Papists But albeit these three contrary factions haue vnited ioyned themselues together and doe al ioyntly oppugne the Princes authoritie in causes ●cclesiasticall yet the authoritie of the sacred Scriptures the judgement of the auncient Fath●rs the decisions of auncient Counsels and the practi●e of Christian Princes in the p●imatiue Church are able to seuer and dis-ioyne all their forces To beginne with the Scriptures they giue sufficient warrant to ciuill Gouernours to ordaine Lawes in Ecclesiastical causes and doe expressely teach that a 2. Reg 12 4 2 Chro. 19. 4. Ibid●m 30 1 34. 3. Iehosaphat Hezekias and Iosias did make Lawes for the recalling excercising of the Seruice of God As for the Fathers they holde it to bee an Oracle for truth that b Aug. Epi. 48 Kinges doe serue Christ in making lawes for Christ Yea c Aug. Epi. 50 Rex aliter seruit Domino saith Saint Augustine quia homo est aliter quia etiam Rex est Quia homo est ei seruit viuendo fideliter quia vero Rex est seruit leges iust a praecipientes contraria prohibentes conuenienti vigore sanciendo A King serueth the Lord one way as he is a man and an other way as he is a King As hee is a man he serueth him by liuing faithfully As he is a King he serueth him by making lawes with conuenient vigor to cōmaunde that which is right and forbid the contary But not to insist onely vpon Saint Augustins iudgement The d Vide Sozomen lib. 1. cap 17. Bishops that came to the counsell of Nice gaue to the Emperour

on the Popes side in this matter His wordes are these c lib. 2. page 48. The Christian Soueraigne ought not to be called the hoad vnder Christ of the particular and visible Churches within his Dominions The Puritane But doe any of our writers spoy le the Ciuil Magistrate of all gouernment in Ecclesiastical matters as the Papists doe The Protestant Yes the Admonitors say in plaine tearmes that d Admon page 126. to these three ioyntly that is the Ministers Seniors and Deacons is the whole regiment of the Church to be committed Now if the whole gouernment of the Church be to be committed to Ministers Seniors and Deacons what authoritie remaineth to the ciuill Magistrate in the gouernment of it The Puritane a These are the words of T. C. page 153. I answere in the name of the Authors of the Admonition that the Prince and ciuill Magistrate hath to see that the lawes of God touching his worship and touching all matters and orders of the Church be executed and duely obserued and to see that euery Ecclesiasticall person doe that office whereunto he is appointed and to punish those which faile in their office accordingly As for the making of the orders and ceremonies of the Church they do where there is a const●●uted and ordered Church pertaine to the Ministers of the Church c. The Protestant I reply with the wordes of the late Reuerend Archbishop b In his defence of the answere to the Admon page 694. 695. 696. VVhat no more but to see them executed how differeth this from Papists The Papists giue to the Christian Magistrate in Ecclesiasticallmatters potestatem facts noniuris that is to see those lawes executed and put in practise that the Pope and his Cleargie shall make and to be as it were their executioner but not to make any lawes in Ecclesiasticall matters for doth not Saunders a popish writer say the same c saunders fol. 64. Although I do not deny saith he that the knowledge of a fact that belongeth to the Ecclesiasticall lawe may be committed to Kinges and Magistrates and before the Ecclesiasticall cause be determined the King may vse his authoritie to this ende that there may bee some quiet place prepared where the Bishops shall consult and that the Bishops be called to the same place at a certaine day and that in the meane time while the matter is in determining common peace may bee preserued euen among the Priestes themselues To conclude after the cause be determined and iudged by the Priestes the King may punish him with the sword which hee carieth not in vaine or by some other corporall punishment which shalrefuse to obey the sentence of the Priestes a Muscul in locis com-titu● de magistratu Musculus also setteth out this Popish opinion touching the authoritie of the ciuill Magistrate in Ecclesiasticall affaires very plainly in these wordes Those whome they call Ecclesiasticall Persons and wee call them Papists will not commit to the Magistrate any further authoritie in Religion then to bee the keeper and reuenger of it and of their Ecclesiasticall Lawes that the Ecclesiasticall pollici● may remaine immoouable wherefore they deny hin to haue authoritie in that hee is a Magistrate to make or to publish any Ecclesiasticall lawes because such thinges pertaine to those that do represent the Church whose decrees and constitutions must bee maintained and defended by the authoritie of the Magistrate But to leaue this resemblance what arguments doe the Popish Doctors vse against the Princes authoritie in causes Ecclefiasticall The Puritane b Sanders lib. 2 cap. 1. fol. 27. Saunders c Harding against the Apologie fol. 118. Harding and other of them do quote 2 Chron. 198. 11. which place maketh indeede fully against them for Iehosaphat had chiefe authoritie and gouernment both in thinges pertaining to the Church and in thinges pertaining to the Common-wealth but for better execution of them the one hee did commit to bee executed by Amaziah the Priest the other by Zebadiah a Ruler of the house of Iuda euen as the Kings Maiestie being in all causes both Ecclesiasticall and Temporall within these his Realmes and Dominions supreame gouernour committeth the hearing and iudging of Ecclesiasticall matters to the Reuerend Fathers of the Church and of Temporall matters to the Right honourable the Lord Chancelour and other Iudges Now had Iehosaphat nothing to doe with Church-matters because he made Amaziah Priest iudge in the same they may as well say that bee had nothing to doe in Temporall affaiers because he also appointed Zebadiah to heare and determine them The Protestant True and yet T. C. quoteth the selfe same place to prooue the selfe same thing a T. C. page 145. sect 1. looke saith he in the second Booke of the Cronicles in the 19. Chap. and in the 8. and 11. verses and you shall see that there were a number appointed for the matters of the LORD which were Priestes and Leuits and there were other also appoynted for the Kinges affayers and for matters of the Commō-wealth c. The Puritane But in what other thinges agree we with the Papists The Protestant 1. The Papists would not haue the scriptures read in the Church to the people No more would your Puritane-popish writers for b In their viewe of po Pish abuses remaining fol. 2. they blush not to say that reading is no feeding but as euil as playing vpon a Stage and worse too 2. The Papists condemne our Book of common prayers set out by publique authoritie and the whole order of seruice so doe you 3. The papists say that our Sacraments are not rightly ministred so say you likewise as hath beene already shewed 4. The Papists say that we haue no right ministerie in England no Pastours no Bishops because they be not rightly and canonically called to these functions the selfe same doe you affirme as hath also beene shewed 5. The Papists auouch that we are not the true church no that wee haue not so much as the outward face and shew of the true Church the selfe same thing do your Puritan-popish teachers auouch in their first Admonition page 33. and in their second admonition page 6. The Puritane All this notwithstanding we come farre short of the Papists for Popery is as a ● B●in his toyle for 2. legged Foxes chap. 3. one truely saith an hotch-potch and miserable mingle-mangle of all Sathans forgeries and diuelish heresies VVith Carpocratian Heretickes they set vp the image of Christ and other Saints with the Anthropomorphits they pain● God the Father like an olde man with a gray beard with the Pelagian Heretickes they maintaine free will power to iustifie our selues and to fulfill the commandements with the Messalians they mumble their Mattens Pater nosters and seauen Psalmes by number vpon a payre of Beades with the Tatians Cataphryges Montanistes and Ebionites they seeke sanctification in eating and not eating in marrying