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A91048	The proceedings in the late treaty of peace· Together with severall letters of his Majesty to the Queen, and of Prince Rupert to the Earle of Northampton, which were intercepted and brought to the Parliament. With a declaration of the Lords and Commons upon those proceedings and letters. Ordered by the Lords and Commons, that these proceedings, letters, and declaration be forthwith printed. H. Elsing Cler. Parliament. Dom. Com.	Rupert, Prince, Count Palatine, 1619-1682.; Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649.; Henrietta Maria, Queen, consort of Charles I, King of England, 1609-1669.; Northampton, Spencer Compton, Earl of, 1601-1643.; England and Wales. Parliament.	1643 (1643)	Wing P3571; Thomason E102_6; ESTC R11174	75,243	98

Cessation shall not extend to restraine the setting forth or imploying and Ships for the defence of his Majesties Dominions Provided that his Majesty be first acquainted with the particulats and that such Ships as shall be set forth be commanded by such persons as his Majestie shall approve of 7 Lastly that during the Cessation none of his Majesties subjects be imprisoned otherwise then according to the knowne Lawes of the Land And that there shall be no plundring or violence offered to any of his Subjects And his Majesty is very willing if there be any scruples made concerning these propositions and circumstances of the Cessation That the Committee for the Treaty nevertheless may immediately come hither and so all matters concerning the Cessation may be here settled by him H. Elsynge Cler. Parl. D. Com. His Majesties Answer to the Articles of Cessation sent to His Majestie HIS Majestie hath sent a safe Conduct for the Earle of Northumberland Mr. Pierpoint Sir William Ermyn Sir John Holland and Mr. Whitlocke but hath not admitted the Lord Say to attend him as being excepted against by name is his Proclamation at Oxford of the third of November and by Writ to the Sheriffe proclaimed then in that County in which his Majesties Intention is declared to proceed against him as a person guilty of high Treason and so falling to be within the case of Sir Iohn Evelin who upon the same Exception was not admitted to attend his Majestie with the rest of the Committee at Colebrooke in November last But his Majestie doth signifie that in case the House shall thinke fit to send any other person in the place of the Lord Say that is not included in the like Exception his Majesty hath commanded all his Officers Souldiers and other subjects to suffer him as freely to passe and repasse as if his name had been particularly comprised in this safe Conduct His Majestie is content that his Proposition concerning the Magazines Forts Ships and Revenue and the Proposition of both Houses for the disbanding of the Armies shall be first Treated of and agreed of before the proceeding to treat upon any of the other Propositions And that after the second of His Majesties and the second of theirs be treated on and agreed of and so on in the same order And that from the beginning of the Treaty the time may not exceed Twenty dayes in which he hopes a full Peace and right understanding may be established throughout the Kingdome H. Elsynge Cler. Parl. D. Com. The last Articles of Cessation now sent to His Majestie THe Lords and Commons in Parliament being still carried on with a vehement desire of Peace that so the Kingdome may speedily be freed from the desolation and destruction wherewith it is like to be overwhelmed if the warre should continue Have with as much expedition as they could considered of the Articles of Cessation with those alterations and additions offered by his Majestie unto which they are ready to agree in such manner as is exprest in these ensuing Articles viz. 1 That all manner of Armes Ammunition Victuall Money Bullion and all other Commodities passing without a safe Conduct from the Generalls of both Armies as well of his Majesties as of the Armies raysed by the Parliament may be stayed and seized on as if no such Cessation were agreed at all 2 That all manner of persons passing without such a safe Conduct as is mentioned in the Articles next going before shall be apprehended and detained as if no such Cessation were agreed on at all 3 That his Majesties Forces in Oxfordshire shall advance no neerer to Windsor then VVheatly and in Buckinghamshire no neerer to Aylesburie then Brill and that in Barkeshire the Forces respectively shall not advance neerer the one to the other then they shall be at the day to be agreed on for the Cessation to begin And that the Forces of the other Army raysed by the Parliament shall advance no neerer to Oxford then Henley and those in Buckinghamshire no neerer to Oxon then Alisbury and that the Forces of neither army shall advance their Quarters neerer to each other then they shall be upon the day agreed on for the Cessation to begin 4 That the Forces of either army in Glocestershire VVilts and VVales as likewise in the Cities of Glocester and Bristoll and the Castle and Towne of Berkley shall be guided by the rule exprest in the later part of the precedent Article 5 That in case it be pretended on either side that the Cessation is violated no act of Hostilitie is immediately to follow but first the party complayning is first to acquaint the Lord Generall on the other side and to allow three dayes after notice given for satisfaction and in case satisfaction be not given or accepted then five dayes notice to be given before Hostilitie begin and the like to be observed in the remoter armies by the Commanders in Chiefe 6 That all other forces in the Kingdome of England and Dominion of Wales not before-mentioned shall remayn in the same Quarters and places as they are at the time of the publishing of this Cessation and under the same Conditions as are mentioned in the Articles before And that this Cessation shall not extend to restrain the setting forth or employing of any Ships for the defence of his Majesties Dominions 7 That as soon as his Majesty shal be pleased to disband the Armies which both Houses earnestly desire may be speedily effected and to disarme the Papists according to Law the Subjects may then enjoy the benefit of peace in the liberty of their persons goods and Freedom of Trade in the mean time the Generals and Commanders of the Armies of both sides shall be enjoyned to keep the Souldiers from plundering which the two Houses of Parliament have ever disliked and forbidden And for the speedy setling of this so much desired Peace they have thought good to send their Committees with Instructions that if his Majesty be pleased to consent to a Cessation so limited and qualified they may forthwith proceed to treat upon the Propositions and because the time is so far elapsed in these preparations they desire the Cessation may begin the five and twentieth of this instant March or sooner if it may be and in the mean time notice to be given to all the Forces in the severall and remote parts and the Commanders Officers and Souldiers are enjoyned to observe this Cessation accordingly to which they hope and pray that God wil give such a blessing That thereupon Peace Safety and Happines may be produced and confirmed to his Majesty and all his People H. Elsing Cler. Parl. Dom. Com. Instructions agreed on by the Lords and Commons in Parliament for Algernoon Earle of Northumberland William Lord Viscount Say and Seale William Pierpoint Esquire Sir William Armyn Baronet Sir Iohn Holland Baronet and Bulstrode Whitlock Esquire Committees appointed to attend his Majestie upon the Propositions made by his Majestie

upon the matter all the Propositions made by his Majesty which did not in Tearmes agree with those presented to him are utterly rejected For these Reasons and that this Entrance towards a blessed Peace and Accommodation which hath already filled the hearts of the Kingdome with Joye and Hop may be improved to the wished end his Majesty desires that the Committee now sent may speedily have liberty to treate debate and agree upon the Articles of Cessation in which they and all the world shall find that his Majestie is lesse sollicitous for his owne Dignity and Greatness then for his subjects Ease and Liberty And Hee doubts not upon such a Debate all differences concerning the Cessation will be easily and speedily agreed upon and the benefit of a Cessation bee continued and confirmed to his People by a speedy disbanding of both Armies and a sudden and firme Peace which his Majesty above all things desires If this so reasonalbe equall and just Desire of his Majesty shall not be yeelded unto but the same Articles still insisted upon though his Majesty next to Peace desires a Cessation Yet that the not agreeing upon the one may not destroy the hopes of nor so much as delay the other He is willing however to Treate even without a Cessation if that bee not granted upon the Propositions themselves in that order as is agreed upon and desires the Committee here may be enabled to that effect In which Treaty Hee shall give all his Subjects that satisfaction That if any Security to enjoy all the Rights Priviledges and Liberties due to them by the Law or that happinesse in Church and State which the best times have seene with such farther acts of Grace as may agree with his Honour Justice and Duty to his Crowne and as may not render Him lesse able to protect His Subjects according to his Oath will satisfie them Hee is confident in the mercy of God that no more pretious blood of this Nation will be thus miserably spent My Lord and Gentlemen VVHereas by your former Instructions you are tyed up to a circumstance of time and are not to proceed unto the Treaty upon the Propositions untill the cessation of Arms be first agreed upon You are now authorized and required as you may perceive by the Votes of both Houses which you shall herewith receive to Treat and debate with His Majesty upon the two first Propositions according to those Instructions for four dayes after the day of the receipt hereof notwithstanding that the Cessation be not yet agreed upon Your Lordships most humble servant Manchester Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore March 24. 1642. Received March 25. Die Veneris 24. Martij 1642. Resolved upon the Question by the Lord and Cōmons in Parliament THat the Committee at Oxon shall have power to Treat and Debate with His Majesty upon the two first Propositions according to their Instructions for four dayes after the day of the receipt of this Message notwithstanding that the Cessation is not yet agree upon Resolved c. THat the Committee formerly appointed to prepare the Articles of Cessation and Instructions for the Committee at Oxon shall consider of an Answer to be made to His Majesties Message this day received And likewise prepare Reasons to be sent to the Committee for them to presse in the Treaty and Debate upon the former Articles of Cessation And to shew His Majesty the grounds why the Houses cannot depart from those former Articles John Brown Cler. Parliamentorum The Votes of both Houses and the Copy of the answer to His Majesty Received Martii 25. 1642. May it please Your Majesty VVEe Your Loyall Subjects the Lords and Commons in Parliament having received a Message from Your Majesty In which you are pleased to expresse Your Selfe not to be satisfied with the Articles of Cessation Presented unto You by our Committee now attending You at Oxford and yet a signification of Your Majesties willingnesse to Treat upon the Propositions themselves even without a Cessation Do with all humblenesse give our consent that our Committee shall have power to Treat and debate with your Majesty upon the two first Propositions according to their Instructions for four dayes after the day of the receit of this Message notwithstanding that the Cessation be not yet agreed upon That as much as in us lyes there may be no delay in the proceedings for the obtaining of a blessed Peace and the healing up the miserable breaches of this distracted Kingdom And do purpose to represent very speedily unto your Majesty those just Reasons and grounds upon which we have sound it necessary to desire of your Majesty a Cessation so qualified as that is whereby we hope you will receive such satisfaction as that you will be pleased to assent unto it and being obtained we assure our selves it will be most effectuall to the safety of the Kingdom and that Peace which with so much zeal and loyall affection to your Royall person and in a deep sence of the bleeding condition of this poor Kingdom we humbly beg of your Majesties justice and goodnesse John Brown Cler. Parl. A Letter from the E of Manchester to the E. of Northumberland Received March 29. MY Lord I am commanded by the Peers in Parliament to send unto your Lordship the Reasons which both Houses think fit to offer unto His Majesty in pursuit of their adhering to their former Resolution concerning the Articles of the Cessation of Arms. MY Lord you shall likewise receive additionall Instructions from both Houses and a Vote which I send you here inclosed My Lord this is all I have in command as Your Lordships most humble servant Manchester Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore Mar. 27. Die Lun●… 27. Martii 1643. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords in Parliament THat the E. of Northumberland their Committee at Oxford is therby authorized to acquaint His Majesty with all their Instructions upon the two first Propositions Joh Brown Cler. Parl. Additionall Instructions March 29. Additionall Instructions agreed upon by the Lords and Commons in Parliament for Algernon Earl of Northumberland William Viscount Say and Seale William Pierpoint Esq Sir William Armine Baronet Sir John Holland Baronet and Bulstrode Whitlock Esq Committees attending His Majestie upon the Cessation and Treaty YOu shall alter the words mentioned in his Majesties third Article in this maner leaving out the words The Army raised by the Parliament and putting in these words The Army raised by both Hou●es of Parliament You shall humbly present to his Majesty the Reasons herewithall sent from both Houses for their not assenting to those alterations and additions to the Articles of Cessation offered by his Majesty You shall presse the force of those Reasons or any other as there shall be occasion in the best manner you may to procure his Majesties a●s●… to those Articles of Cessation which if you shall obtain within two dayes after the day of

Will. Pierrepoint Will. Armyne B. Witlocke Jo Holland The Kings Reply touching Cessation and desire to enable the Committee to treat upon the Propositions in the mean time and touching His coming to the Parliament C. R. IF the Comittee according to his Majesties desire had had but power to agree in the wording of expressions in the Articles of cessation His Majesties which are as cleer as the matter would bear and as he could make them had not appeared so doubtfull to any but that the cessation might have bin suddenly speedily resolved and that long before this time And if the expression of both Houses in their reasons had not necessitated his Majesty in his own defence to give such answers as could not upon those points deliver truth without some shew of sharpnes no expression of that kind in his Majesties answer had given any pretence for the rejection of or refusing so much as to treat upon this cessation which though it were at present for no long time yet was from the day named by themselves the 25th of March Whereas his Majesty first mov'd for a Cessation and treaty without any limitation at all in the time of either and his Majestie was most ready to have enlarg'd the time so that in the meane while the point of quarters might be so setled as that his Armies might subsist and which might have beene if they had pleas'd a very good and promising earnest and fore-runner of that great blessing of Peace for the obtaining of which the wishes and endeavours of all good men being earnestly bent a farther debate in order to so great a benefit did not deserve to be stiled a consumption of time And his Majesty cannot but conceive himselfe to be in a strange condition if the doubtfulnesse of expressions which must alwayes be whil'st the treaty is at such a distance and power is denied to those upon the place to helpe to cleere and explaine or his necessary Replying to charges layd upon him that hee might not seeme to acknowledge what was so charged or the limitation of the time of seven dayes for the treaty which was not limited by his Majesty who ever desired to have avoyded that and other limitations which have given great interruptions to it should bee as well believed to bee the grounds as they are made the arguments of the Rejection of that which next to Peace it selfe his Majesty above all things most desires to see agreed and setled and which his Majesty hopes if it may bee yet agreed on will give his people such a taste of such a blessing that after a short time of consideration and comparing of their severall conditions in war and Peace and what should move them to suffer so much by a change they will not thinke those their friends that shall force them to it or bee themselves ready to contribute to the renewing of their former miseries without some greater evidence of necessity than can appeare to them when they shall have seen as they shall see if this treaty be suffered to proceed That his Majesty neither asks nor denies any thing but what not only according to Law He may but what in Honor and care of his people He is oblig'd to ask or deny And this alone which a very short Cessation would produce His Majesty esteems a very considerable advantage to the Kingdom And therfore cannot but presse again and again that what ever is thought doubtfull in the expressions of the Articles may as in an hour it may well be done be expounded and whatsoever is excepted at may be debated and concluded and that power and instructions may be given to the Committee to that end That the miserable effects of War the effusion of English bloud and desolation of England untill they can bee totally taken away may by this means be staied and interrupted His Majesty supposes That when the Committee was last required to desire his Majesty to give a speedy and positive Answer to the first Proposition concerning disbanding His Answers in that point to which no Reply hath been made and which He hopes by this time have given satisfaction were not transmitted and received But wonders the Houses should presse his Majesty for a speedy and positive Answer to the first part of their first Proposition concerning disbanding when to the second part of the very same Proposition concerning his return to both Houses of Parliament they had not given any power or instructions to the Committee so much as to treat with his Majesty And when his Majesty if his desire of peace and of speeding the treaty in order to that had not been prevalent with him might with all manner of Justice have delayed to begin to treat upon one part untill they had beene enabled to treat upon the other In which point and for want of which power from them the only stop now remains His Majesties Answers to both parts of their first Proposition being given in transmitted and yet remaining unanswered To which untill the Houses shall be at leisure to make Answer that as little delay in this Treaty as is possible may be caused by it His Majesty desires likewise That the Committee may be enabled to treat upon the following Propositions in their severall orders A Letter from both Houses April 8. WE have sent unto you by this Gentleman Sir Peter Killegrewe some additionall Instructions by which your Lordship and the rest of the Committee will perceive the Resolutions which the Houses have taken upon the papers which they received this day from you This is all we have in command and remaine Westminster this 8 of April 1643. Your Lordships humble Servants MANCHESTER Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore WILLIAM LENTHALL Speaker of the Commons House in Parliament Instructions concerning the Insisting Received April 9. 1643. Additionall Instructions for Algernon Earle of Northumberland William Lord Viscount Say and Seale William Pierrepoint Esq Sir William Armyne and Sir John Holland Baronets Bulstrode Whitelocke Esquire Committees from both Houses attending His Majesty at Oxford Magazines and enlarging the time THe two Houses of Parliament are unsatisfied with his Majesties Answer to that Clause of the first Proposition which concernes the Magazins Wherefore you are to desire his Majesty to make a further Answer in such manner as is exprest in the Instructions formerly given you And you shall let his Majesty know That the Lords and Commons do not think fit to enlarge the time of the Treaty beyond the twenty dayes formerly limited Cinque-Ports Towns Forts and Castles THey likewise remain unsatisfied with his Majesties Answer concerning the Cinque-Ports Towns Forts and Castles being in the most materiall points an expresse denyall Wherefore you are to insist upon their desire for another answer according to your Instructions Shipps THey observe in his Majesties Answer concerning the Ships not only a denyall to all the desires of both Houses But likewise a Censure upon their

THE PROCEEDINGS IN THE LATE TREATY OF PEACE Together VVith severall Letters of his Majesty to the Queen and of Prince Rupert to the Earle of Northampton which were intercepted and brought to PARLIAMENT WITH A Declaration of the Lords and Commons upon those Proceedings and Letters ORdered by the Lords and Commons that these Proceedings Letters and Declaration be forthwith Printed H. Elsing Cler. Parliament Dom. Com. LONDON Printed for Edwards Husbands and are to be sold at his Shop in the Middle Temple 1643. The humble Desires and Propositions of the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled tendred unto his Majestie February the first 1642. WE your Majesties most humble and faithfull Subjects the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled having in our thoughts the glory of God your Majesties honour and the prospetity of your People and being most grievously afflicted with the pressing meseries calamities which have overwhelmed your two Kingdomes of England and Ireland since your Majesty hath by the persuasion of evil Counsellors withdrawn your self from the Parliament raised an Army against it and by force thereof protected Delinquents from the Justice of it constraining us to take Arms for the defence of our Religion Laws Liberties Priviledges of Parliament and for the sitting of the Parliament in safety which fears and dangers are continued and increased by the raising drawing together and arming of great numbers of Papists under the command of the Earle of Newcastle likewise by making the Lord Herbert of Ragland and other known Papists Commanders of great forces whereby many grievous Oppressions Rapines and Cruelties have been and are daily exercised upon the persons and estates of your people much innocent bloud hath been spilt and the Papists have attained means of attempting and hopes of effecting their mischievous designe of rooting out the Reformed Religion and destroying the professors thereof In the tender sence and compassion of these evils under which your people and Kingdom lie according to the duty which we owe to God your Majesty and the Kingdom for which we are intrusted do most earnestly desire that an end may be put to these great distempers and distractions for the preventing of that desolation which doth threaten all your Majesties Dominions And as we have rendred and still are ready to render to your Majesty that subjection obedience and service which we owe unto you so we most humbly beseech your Majesty to remove the Cause of this war and to vouchsafe us that peace and protection which we and our Ancestors have formerly enjoyed under your Majesty and your Royall Predecessors and graciously to accept and grant these most humble desires and Propositions 1 THat your Majesty will be pleased to disband your Armies as wee likewise shall be ready to disband all those Forces which wee have raised And that you will be pleased to return to your Parliament 2. That you will leave Delinquents to a Legall Triall and judgment of Parliament 3. That the Papists may not onely be disbanded but disarmed according to Law 4. That your Majesty will be pleased to give your Royall assent unto the Bill for taking away Superstitious Innovations To the Bill for the utter abolishing and taking away of all Archbishops Bishops their Chancellors and Commissaries Deans Subdeans Deans Chapters Archdeacons Canons and Prebendaries and all Chanters Chancellors Treasurers Subtreasurers Succentors and Sacrists and all Vicars Chorall and Choristers old Vicars and new Vicars of any Cathedrall or Collegiate Church and all other their under-officers out of the Church of England To the Bill against scandalous Ministers To the Bill against Pluralicies And to the Bill for consultation to be had with godly religious and learned Divines That your Majesty will be pleased to promise to passe such other good Bils for setling of Church-government as upon consultation with the Assembly of the said Divines shall be resolved on by both houses of Parliament and by them be presented to your Majestie That your Majesty having exprest in Your Answer to the Nineteene Propositions of both houses of Parliament a hearty affection and Intentions for the rooting out of Poperie out of this Kingdome and that if both the houses of Parliament can yet sinde a more effectuall Course to disable Jesuites Priests and popish Recusants from disturbing the State or deluding the Lawes that you would willingly give your consent unto it That You would be graciously pleased for the better discovery and speedier conviction of Recusants That an Oath may be established by Act of Parliament to be Administred in such manner as by both Houses shall be agreed on wherein they shall abjure and renounce the Popes Supremacy The doctrine of Transubstantiation Purgatory worshipping of the consecrated Hoast Crucifixes and Images and the refasing the said Oath being tendred in such manner as shall be appointed by Act of Parliament shall be a sufficient Conviction Law of Recusancie And that your Majestie will be graciously pleased to give Your Royall assent unto a Bill for the Education of the children of Papists by Protestants in the Protestant Religion That for the more effectuall execution of the Lawes against popish Recusants your Majesty would be pleased to consent to a Bill for the true levying of the Panalties against them and that the same Penaltie may be levyed and disposed of in such manner as both houses of Parliament shall agree on so as your Majestie be at no loss And likewise to a Bill whereby the practise of Papists against the State may be prevented and the Laws against them duly executed 6. That the Earle of Bristoll may be removed from your Majesties Councells and that both he and the Lord Herbert eldest sonne to the Earle of Worcester may likewise be restrained from comming within the Verge of the Court and that they may not beare any Office or have my imployments concerning the State or Common-wealth 7. That Your Majestie will be graciously pleased by Act of Parliament to settle the Militia both by Sea and Land and for the Forts and Ports of the Kingdome in such a manner as shall be agreed on by both Houses 8. That Your Majestie will be pleased by Your Letters Patents to make Sir Iohn Brampston Chiefe Justice of Your Court of Kings Bench William Lentall Esquire the now Speaker of the Commons house Master of the Rolls and to continue the Lord chiefe Justice Bankes chiefe Justice of the Court of Common Pleas and likewise to make Master Serjeant Wilde Chiefe Baron of Your Court of Exchequer And that Master Justice Bacon may be continued And Master Serjeant Rolls and Master Serjeant Arkins made Justices of the Kings Bench. That Master Justice Reeves and Master Justices Foster may be continued and Master Serjeant Phesant made one of Your Justices of Your Court of Common Pleas That Master Serjeant Cresivell M. Samuel Browne and Master John Pulleston may be Barons of the Exchequer And that all these and all the Judges of the same Courts for

and be of force within which time notice is to be given as well by his Majesty as by the Lords and Commons to the severall Generalls Commanders and Souldiers respectively to observe the same cessation as it is qualified and limited in those Articles last presented to Your Majesty Northumberland John Holland B. Whitlocke Will Pierrepoint Will. Armyne The Kings question concernning removall of quarters March 31 1643. VVHether by denying the Communication of quarters you intend to restrain the quarters of either Army from each other As that the forces at Abbington may not remove to Banbury or the forces at Henly may not remove to Alisbury or to any other places within the quarter of each army respectively Falkland The Committees answer concerning removall of quarters Mar. 31. 1643. IN answer to Your Majesties question upon the third Article of the Cessation We humbly conceive That it is not intended to restraine the quarters of their Army respectively from each other So as they come not neerer the quarters of the other Army But that the forces at Abbington may remove to Banbury or the forces at Henly may remove to Alisbury or to any other place within the quarters of each Army respectively So as the Forces of either Army respectively come not neerer the quarters of the other armie then they shall be upon the day agreed on for the cessation to begin John Holland B. Whitelocke Northumberland Will. Pierrepoint Will. Armyne The Kings Questions concerning the Cessation March 31. 1643. HIs Majesty desires to be resolved by the Committee of Lords and Commons Whether the Forces of Oxford may not as well go to Reading as the Forces of Henly may to Alisbury Whether His Majesties Forces belonging to the Army at Oxford may not go to Shrewsbury or any other place backwards from London so that in their march they approach no neerer to any quarters of any of the contrary Armies then some of His Majesties Forces shall quarter upon the day agreed upon for the Cessation to begin Falkland The Committees answer concerning the Cessation March 31. 1643. VVE humbly conceive That by our Instructions we are not enabled to give any resolution upon Your Majesties questions concerning the remove all of quarters other than we have already given Northumberland John Holland B. Whitlocke Will. Pierrepoint Will. Armyne A Letter from the Earle of Manchester April 4. MY LORD I Am commanded by the Lords in Parliament to send unto your Lordship these enclosed Votes for the giving your Lordship and the Committee longer time to treat of the first Propositions This is all I have incommand as April 2. Your Lordships most humble servant MANCHESTER Speaker of the House pro tempore Votes of both Houses for four dayes longer to Treat April 4. Die Luna Aprilis 3. 1643. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled THat further time shall be given to the Committee at Oxon to Treat upon the two first Propositions viz. The first Proposition of His Majesties And the first Proposition of both Houses Resolved c. THat the time prescribed for the Treaty upon the two first Propositions shall be untill Friday next Resolved c. That Friday in this last question shall be taken inclusive Jo Brown Clex Parliamentorum His Majesties Message concerning the Cessation Charles R. HOw His Majesty hath spent His time since the Committee from His two Houses of Parliament came hither how willing Hee hath been during the four dayes allowed to them to expedite the Treaty it selfe by the free and diligent disquisition of the particulars comprized in those two first Articles and how intent He hath been upon the Cessation which He thinks so necessary and so much desires since the last Message concerning the same came to Him the Committee themselves cannot but observe And though no conclusion could be made within the two dayes a time limited with much strictnesse in a businesse of so great moment where all words and expressions must be carefully and exactly weighed His Majesty cannot doubt but both Houses will be willing to give and receive satisfaction in any particulars which are necessarily to bee considered in concluding the same though the two dayes are expired And if His Majesty enlarges Himselfe in His Replies more than may seem necessary to the Propositions and differences in debate It must be remembred by what unnecessary and unwarrantable Expressions in this last Message from His two Houses He is not only invited but compelled thereunto which He could heartily have wished might upon this occasion have been forborne 1. For the freedom of trade His Majesty hath great reason to require and the two Houses to admit that freedom to His good Subjects He desired For what concerns the supply of the Army with Arms Ammunition money Bullion and Victuals He consented to the very tearms proposed by the two Houses and that they may be observed is contented that searches may be made which being but the trouble of particular persons is not considerable in respect of the publique benefit and advantage But why all other liberty of traffique and Commerce should not be granted to His good Subjects He cannot understand for that His Majesties armie should receive much advantage thereby and the contrary army none is in no degree confessed For besides the restraint is to places where no part of His Majesties army is and indeed the whole trade of the Kingdom interrupted t is as great a support if not a greater to the contrary army to maintain and keepe up the trade of London from whence that receives its supply and reliefe as to his Majesties army to continue the trade of Oxford or any other place where Forces recide and to stop and seize the cloth Ker●…ies and other Western commodities which his Majesty can daily do from Reading would be as great disturbance to the Trade of London as the seizing of any commodities which may be done by the E. of Essex from Windsor or Wickham can be to the Trade of Oxford And therefore his Majesty hath great reason to presse that mutuall and universall Freedom to all his good subjects may be granted Otherwise he must either permit that Licence to his army to seize the goods of his people in their passage to London and to interrupt and break the Trade and correspendence of the Kingdom which bott our of publique consideration and private compassion his Majesty is most averse from or else must grant that evident benefit and advantage to those who deny the same to him and to his people for his sake And it cannot be denyed but this Freedom is so very beneficiall to his subject and so wholly considerable to his Majestie under that Notion that their very subsistance depends upon it and by this means Trade may be continued which if a little more suppressed by these distractions will not be easily recovered even by a setled Peace His Majesty believes that some Carriers have bin robbed

Members to their sitting and Votes It is observable that the demand is made without distinction of persons or offences so that be the persons never so criminous or the offences never so notorious and so the Judgement never so just yet all must be restored or no consent to disbanding And the reason and ground of the Demand is as observable Because they adhered to His Majesty in these distractions An Argument they must confesse much used by the Earl of Strafford in defence of his Treason who would have justified the most notorious Crimes laid to his charge by Authority and Commands derived from His Majesty and his zeal to advance His Majesties Service and profit and no doubt the same reason may be used for the Judges in case of Ship-money and most of the Monopolists and Projectors who by Letters Patents had not onely His Majesties Command and Authority for the doing what they did but brought in great Sums of Money to His use and benefit and that perhaps in times of necessity and want thereof And so consequently because these adhered to His Majesty for what they did was for his profit with the like reason it may be required That all Impeachments and Proceedings against them should be repealed and laid aside And surely nothing can be more destructive and dangerous both to Parliament and Kingdom then the consenting to that Demand For what can be more destructive to both Houses then to restore those persons to have their former suffrage and Votes in Parliament over the lives and Liberties of the People and the Priviledge of Parliament who have not onely disserted the Parliament disobeyed and contemned their Authority neglected the Trust reposed in them by those that sent them thither in whose behalf they were to attend and serve there but by private practises and open hostility have endeavoured to destroy both Parliament and people And it would be an objection of difficultie to answer whether in giving a consent to this demand the people who are to chuse these Members should not be deprived of their interest and freedom of choice and election now divolved unto them by putting out the Members already sent And to this they might adde the danger of the President and the reflection of dishonour that would fall upon both Houses should they consent to this which would be with the same breath as it were to give and repeal their judgement and pronounce sentence of injustice and rashnesse against themselves but they will not insist thereupon in a case otherwise so full of danger and inconveniencie to the publique And touching the Proposition of adjourning the Parliament twenty miles distant from London they shall not need in a case so apparant to spend many words to discover the inconveniencie and unreasonablenesse thereof for should they assent unto it to passe over the inconveniencies that would happen to such persons that should have occasion to attend the Parliament by removing it so far from the residencie of the ordinary Courts of Justice and the places where the Records of the Kingdom remain whereof there is frequent use to be made it would not onely give a tacite consent to those scandals so often pressed and affirmend in severall Declarations That is That His Majestie was forced for the safetie of His own person heretofore to withdraw and hitherto to absent himself from the Parliament which both Houses can by no means admit but must still deny But likewise to that high and dangerous aspersion of awing the Members of this Parliament raised without doubt purposely to invalide the Acts and proceeding thereof And by that engine in case the Popish Armie should prevail against the Parliament which they trust God in his goodnesse will never permit to overturn and nullifie all the good Lawes and Statutes made this Parliament And it would give too much countenance to those unjust aspesirons laid to the charge of the City of London whose unexsampled zeal and fidelity to the true Protestant Religion and the Liberty of this kingdom is never to be forgotten That His Majesty and the Members of both Houses cannot with safety to their persons reside there when as they are well assured That the loyalty of that City to His Majesty and their affections to the Parliament is such as doth equall if not exceed any other place or City in the Kingdom And with what safety the two Houses can sit in any other place when even in the place they now reside the House of Commons was in apparent danger of violence when His Majestie accompanied with some hundreds of armed men came thither to demand their Members let the world judge And now the Lords and Commons must appeal to the judgement of all impartiall men Whether they have not used their utmost and most faithfull endeavours to put an end to the distractions of this Kingdom and to restore it to a blessed and lasting Peace And whether their Propositions being the way thereunto were not such as were reasonable and necessary for them to make and just and Honourable for His Majesty to grant And whether His Mejesties Answer to these Propositions are satisfactory or correspondent to His Expression To have given up all the faculties of His soul to an earnest endeavour of a Peace and Reconciliation With His People But they must confesse that they had just cause to suspect That this would be the happy issue of the Treaty for the prevalency of the enemies thereof who like that evill spirit do most rage when they think they must be cast out was such that they would not proceed therein one step without some attempt or provocation layd in the way to interrupt and break it off for after they had resolved to present their humble desires and propositions to His Majesty their Committee must not without a speciall safe counduct and Protection from Him have accesse to Him a liberty incident to them not only as they are Members of the Parliament and employed by both Houses but as they were free born Subjects and yet when they passed over this His Majesty refused a safe conduct to the Lord Viscount Say and Seal being one of the Committee appointed by both Houses to be employed upon that occasion such a breach of priviledge that they beleeve is not to be paralelled by the example of former times and yet their desire was such to obtain the end they drive at that is a happy and lasting peace That they resolved not to interrupt the Treaty for that time by insisting upon it And then they had no sooner entred upon the Treaty but a Proclamation dated at Oxon the 16 of February 1642. entituled His Majesties Proclamation forbidding all His loving Subjects and the Counties of Kent Surrey Sussex and Hampshire to raise any Forces c. And another Proclamation dated the 8 of February forbidding the assessing and payment of all Taxes by vertue of an Ordinance of both Houses and all entring into Associations were published in