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A86145 The heads of severall petitions delivered by many of the troopers against the Lord General and some other officers of the army. With the answer which Mr. Pym made to the severall heads or petitions, before the committee on Tuesday, October 5. 1641. Pym, John, 1584-1643. 1641 (1641) Wing H1289; Thomason E172_14; ESTC R17892 1,877 7

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THE HEADS Of severall PETITIONS delivered by many of the Troopers against the LORD GENERAL And some other Officers of the Army With the Answer which Mr. PYM Made to the severall Heads or Petitions before the Committee on Tuesday October 5. 1641. LONDON Printed for Iohn Thomas 1641 October the 5. 1641. THE HEADS Of the Petitions delivered by the Troopers against the Lord Generall and some Officers of the Army With Mr. Pyms answer thereunto VPon Tuesday last the Committee received divers other Petitions from severall Troopers viz. from the Troopers of Sir Thomas Lucas Colonell And of his Brother Sir Charles Lucas Serjeant Major most of which agreed in their particulars mentioned in their severall Petitions viz. That the Kings Majestie did freely of his Royall goodnesse give unto the Petitioners their horses and that they desired to be resolved from Mr. Committee I. Whether it lay in my Lord Generals power to give away 5. l. unto the Colonell and Captaines out of their pay II. Secondly they Petitioned for monies deducted for Armes III. Thirdly they Petitioned for moneyes for powder and shot which they paid for either upon exercise or service which was allowed their Officers from the King IIII. They Petitioned for moneyes which was deducted by their Officers for dead horses And lastly they desired to have redresse from the Committees and that they might be suffered to travaile into forraigne parts there were some other particulars then alledged by the Troopers against their severall Captaines for money which they tooke from the Troopers for Armes lost in the skirmish Vpon the receipt of the said Petitions for answer thereunto kept the Committees in han● all that day and about 12 of the clocke M● Pym chiefe Committee and 6. others of t●● Committees went to the Lords and desir●● their Censure and about one houre after they returned and Mr. Pym then desired that the Troopers might be called in where the Committee for the House of Commons sate 〈◊〉 then told them he had an Order from the Lords to answer the particulars mentioned in their Petitions The answer of Mr. Pym to the above mentioned particulars I. I Am commanded from the Lords to tell you what the Law of this Realme is in these particulars and that is this Whereas you taxe my Lord Generall for the giving away 5. l. out of your pay for the horses It lyes not in the power of the House of Commons to give you any redresse for my Lord Generall being a Peere of the Realme and a Member of the higher House it lyeth not in our reach to call him to accompt therefore But you must preferre your Petitions to the Higher House and then if my Lord have committed crimes not becōming his place or person without all question you shall have a Remedy 2. Secondly for moneyes deducted for Armes The Officers have enformed his Majesty it was the usuall custome in Holland Germany and other forraigne warres where such an army was assembled that two-pence a day should bee deducted out of every horsemans pay in case that any armes should be negligently lost the said moneyes were to buy new ones or to repaire the old ones this lyes 〈…〉 Coffers whereunto we cannot give any answer but upon the desired returne of his Majesty no question but that so Noble and good a Prince will give freely that which is your due Thirdly and Fourthly for the moneyes deducted for powder and shot and for the dead horses it was by order from the Lord Generall wherefore as I told you before you must repaire to the higher House for satisfaction therein 5. Lastly whereas you Petition that none is suffered to goe into forraigne parts wee have consulted with the Lords thereupon and hath thought fit that if any one or more of you have a desire to goe beyond Sea you may repaire hither and have a warrant granted for your passage But for those that have friends we shall earnestly intreat them to goe into the Country to their Parents or Kinsfolkes and if you shall be pleased to follow this businesse you may leave two of each severall Troope to take care for you in your absence I would not willingly have you abide about this Towne for feare of scandall there are many and great misdemeanors lately committed here in this Countrey and all is layd upon your backs but for mine owne part I doe otherwise conceipt of you believing that as you are Gentlemen and Souldiers you scorne to wrong any of the Kings Subjects and being informed that there are others who are already in hold which went in your habits but proved no such men I am not ignorant but that a Souldiers life is warranted both by the Scripture and the Lawes of this Realme And that you are to be nourished by us being Members of the same Body Politique and assuredly believe that though it lyes not in our power to meddle with my Lord Generall yet we shall preferre your Petitions and bee either ready to heare or right your Grievances with all expedition that may bee and so you may repaire hither upon this day seaven-night where you shall heare further Vpon which Speech the Troopers desired severall warrants for their severall Officers which Mr. Committee granted and they are to answer thereunto upon Tuesday next following Captaine Yarner was this day committed to the Kings-Bench for false Musters FINIS