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A66113 The authority of Christian princes over their ecclesiastical synods asserted with particular respect to the convocations of the clergy of the realm and Church of England : occasion'd by a late pamphlet intituled, A letter to a convocation man &c. / by William Wake. Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1697 (1697) Wing W230; ESTC R27051 177,989 444

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