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A56065 The propositions of the Roman Catholicks of Ireland as also the answer of the agents for the Protestants of Ireland made to the said propositions, and their petitions and propositions to His Majesty, and His Majesties answer to the propositions of the said Roman Catholicks, and the answer of James, Marquesse of Ormond, His Majesties Commissioner for the treatie and concluding of a peace in the kingdome of Ireland, to the said propositions. Confederate Catholics.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. 1644 (1644) Wing P3800; ESTC R36692 41,588 78

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tyranny and oppression or that any tyranny or oppression hath been exercised upon his subjects in that Kingdome However his Maiestie will take care that such Governors shall not continue longer in chose places then hee shall find for the good of his people there and is content that they shall bee inhibited to make any purchase other then by lease for the provision of their Houses during the space of their Goverment in such manner as is desired 15. This proposition is to be explayned and some particular wayes to bee proposed to his Maiestie for the doing thereof And then his Maiestie upon due consideration of the safety and security of his Protestant Subiects will returne his Answer 16. Answered in the fourth and fifth 17. Such persons who shall be excepted out of the Act of Oblivion shall bee tryed by the knowne Lawes of the Land The Answer of IAMES Marques of Ormond His Majesties Commissioner for the treaty and concluding of a Peace in this Kingdome for and in the name and behalfe of His Majestie to the Propositions of His Roman Catholicke subjects of Ireland VVHen all the particular demands made on the behalfe of his Majestie the Church and his Majesties Protestant subjects and their party shall be concluded his Maiestie will bee graciously pleased on his part to agree to the particulars hereafter expressed viz. 1. To the first proposition his Majestie will bee graciously pleased if his said Roman Catholicke subjects shall by their obedience and loyaltie merit his Majesties favour and protection that they shall not for the future have cause to complaine that lesse moderation is used towards them then hath been in the most favourable of Queene Elizabeth King Iames his times But his Maiestie for divers waighty considerations will further advise before hee consent to the repeale of any the Acts intended by the said Proposition 2. To the second his Majestie will bee graciously pleased to call a new Parliament upon condition that all particulars therein to bee passed by act of Parliament be first agreed on betweene us his Majesties Commissioner and Donogh Lord Viscount Muskery Alexandermac Donell and Nicholas Plunket Esquiers Sir Robert Talbot Baronet Dermot O Brien Patricke Darcy Geffrey Browne and Iohn Dillon Esquiers or any five or more of them who are deputed by his said Roman Catholicke subjects to treate with Vs about the same And the said Acts so agreed upon bee transmitted according to severall acts of parliament in that behalfe provided And that there shall be no attempt by his Majesties Roman Catholicke subjects in that parliament to passe any other act then what is agreed upon as aforesaid and first transmitted or to bring any other prejudice to any of his Maiesties protestant subiects in this kingdome And if any thing shall be attempted in the said parliament to the contrarie that then his Maiesties Lieutenant or other Chiefe Governor or Governors before whom the said parliament shall be holden shall forthwith after such attempt dissolve the said Parliament without expecting any further direction from his Majestie for the same But his Majestie for divers waightie considerations will bee further advised before that he doe consent to the suspension of Poynings Act. 3. To the third his Majestie will be graciously pleased that none of his said Roman Catholicke subjects shall suffer any prejudice by any Acts or Ordinances passed in this present Parliament since the time in the Proposition mentioned by reason of the present commotion but his Majestie cannot legally declare Acts or Ordinances made in Parliament which are in themselves lawfull to be voyde nor give warrant to take them off the file 4. To the fourth his Majestie cannot in course of Iustice by his Proclamation declare indictments attaintures out-lawries Letters-patents Grants Leases Bonds Recognizances or any other legall record to be voyde or taken off the file But his Majestie will be graciously pleased to grant a full and Generall pardon to all persons whatsoever excepting such as hereafter upon this treaty shal be thought fit to be left thereout for all Treasons rebellions and other crimes whatsoever growing and arising for or by reason of the same And will likewise give his consent that an act bee passed to that purpose in which his Majestie will admit any clauses to enlarge his mercy And his Majestie will be further graciously pleased to determine all custodiums which have beene granted since the 22. of October 1641. 5. To the fift proposition his Majesty cannot in Iustice consent to the taking away of any debts due to his subjects who have committed no offence which might occasion the forfeyture thereof But for such debts as have accrued unto his Majestie by the attaynture or fugacie of any of his Majesties Roman Catholicke subjects since the 23. of October 1641. His Majestie will be graciously pleased to remit so many of them as have not beeen payed into his Majesties Exchequer or received otherwise to his Maiesties use or by his appointment 6. To the sixt proposition his Maiesty will be graciously pleased to release and quite his right to all such lands in the said proposition mentioned except within the Counties of Kilkenny and Wickloe upon the Termes formerly assented unto by his Maiestie in his answer to the grievances in the 17. yeare of his raigne and will consent to such an act of limitation as is desired 7. To the seventh his Maiesty will be graciously pleased to consent to an act for the taking away any incapacitie as Natives eyther to lands or offices if any such there be and will willingly consent to the erecting of an Innes of Court Vniversitity or free-schooles Provided that they be governed by such statutes rules and orders as his Maiesty shall approve and be agreable to the Customes of England 8. To the eight his Maiesty will be graciously pleased that such of his Maiesties said subiects within this kingdome as shall manifest their dutie and affection to his Maiesty shall receive such markes of his Maiesties favour in offices and places of trust as shall manifest his Maiesties good acceptance and regarde of them 9. To the ninth proposition his Maiestie will take care that his good subiects of this kingdome shall not be oppressed by his Court of Wards And if oppressions of that kinde have beene upon good and due information his Maiesty will cause Iustice to be done for the time past and for the future will prevent the like by instructions But for the taking away of that Court his Majesty can make no answer till the particulars for his satisfaction bee set downe and presented unto him 10. To the tenth Proposition his Majestie consented as farre as is fit for him in this point in his answer to the 25 grievance in the seventeenth yeare of his raigne the which hee is still willing shal be enacted looking forwards still to five yeares to begin after the peace concluded 11. To the eleventh Proposition his Majesty conceives the substance