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A48453	As you were, or, The Lord General Cromwel and the grand officers of the armie their remembrancer wherein as in a glass they may see the faces of their soules spotted with apostacy, ambitious breach of promise, and hocus-pocus-juggleing with the honest soldiers and the rest of the free-people of England : to the end that haveing seene their deformed and fearfull visage, they may be returning to doe their first pretended workes, wipe of their spots, mend their deformities & regaine their lost credit : in a word, save themselves and the gaspeing libertyes of the surprized and enslaved English nation : least enlargement and deliverance arise to the English from another place, but they and their fathers house shall be destroyed : Ester 4. and 14. : all which is contained in a letter directed to the Lord Generall Cromwel, to be communicated to the grandees of his army / written by L. Colonel John Libvrne May 1652 ...	Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657.	1652 (1652)	Wing L2084; ESTC R1524	49,801	36

in December 1648 which expresseth the reasons of their then advance with their Army to London to purge OR RATHER PLVCK VP BY THE ROOTES the Parliament and doe they not in that Declaration positively declare that the Parliaments treating with the King and rejecting all better wholsomer counsells given them IS NO LESS THEN A TREACHEROVS OR CORRVPT NEGLECT OR AN APOST ATIZING FROM THE PVBLIC TRVST REPOSED IN THEM Yet not ASSVMING to themselves as there in words they say a standing power of judgement AS OF RIGHT OR TRVST to conclude others thereby acknowledging that to lie most properly in those whom the people DVLY CHOOSE AND TRVST TO IVDGE FOR THEM But considering that such power where ever it is IS COMMITTED BVT IN TRVST and that neither this Nation nor any other people DID EVER GIVE VP THEIR NATVRALL CAPACITIES OF COMMON SENSE OR REASON as to the ends fundamentalls of that trust And as for the Parliaments breach of trust there being no formal power of man in beeing to appeale to in the present case they positively declare They cannot but exercise that common judgement which in their NATVRALL CAPACITY is left to them and therfore considering that the Parliaments then BREACH OF TRVST was so transcendently great as that it was an hazard of totall destruction to that Interest to those people for which especially they say the trust was reposed And seeing there is no orderly open way left for a just succession of another formal and proper judicature to bee appealed unto in due time therfore they there renounced the then Parliament AS NO PARLIAMENT AT ALL with confidence APPEALED TO THE COMMON IVDGEMENTS OF INDIFFERENT AND VNCORRVPTED MEN exciteing all those that yet were faithfull to their trust in the Parliament to COME OVT joyne with them and in such a case of extremity they promise to looke upon them not as a Parliament but as persons materially haveing the cheife trust of the Kingdome remaining in them THOVGH NOT A FORM ALL STANDING POWER to be continued in them or drawne into ordinary president yet the best and most rightfull that can be had as the present State and exigency of affaires then stood and wee shall say they accordingly owne them adhere to them be guided by them in their FAITHFVLL PROSECVTION OF THEIR TRVST which they there declare to be onely in order unto MARKE IT WELL and VNTILL THE INTRODVCEING OF A MORE FVLL AND FORMALL POWER IN A JVST REPRESENTATIVE TO BE SPEEDILY INDEAVOVRED AND RATIFIED BY AN AGREEMENT AND SVBSCRIPTION OF THE PEOPLE THEREVNTO And did not the present Generall for upon him I principally looke and judge him in a manner to be all in all and not only one man but his word in England to be more then ten thousand lay it as an act of treason to the late King Charles charge his in his for so I may truly call it late impeachment of him dated the 20 of January 1648 that he had KEPT OF FREQVENT AND SVCCESSIVE PARLIAMENTS OR NATIONAL MEETINGS IN COVNCEL which as before is averred ought to be once every yeare or oftner if need require And did not the Generalls then two principall agents to wit the LORD PRESIDENT BRADSHAW and Mr. JOHN COOKE now Lord cheife justice in Ireland notably with all their Eloquence and Rhetoric aggravate that against the King as a most transcendent crime see the 11 page of the Lord Bradshawes last speech against the King being upon the 27 of January 1648 and Mr. Iohn Cooke his State of the Kings Case page 7 11 14 17 18 20. in the last of which Mr. JOHN COOKE averrs THAT THE PEOPLE OF ENGLAND NOT ONLY BY SEVERAL STATVTE LAWES OVGHT TO HAVE A PARLIAMENT ONCE A YEARE OR OFTNER IF NEED REQVIRE BVT ALLSO OF COMMON RIGHT THEY OVGHT TO HAVE IT and that the Kings makeing of Parliaments when he called them VSELES to the END for which they were instituted was a crime in him EQVALL to his not calling them for nine or ten yeares together And I wish the present Generall were not much more guiltie then ever the King was of all those tamperings juggleings machiavilian devices that he speakes of in his 17 18 and 20 pages to make a Parliament useles in any thing BVT TO SERVE HIS OWNE LVSTS AND OPPRESS THE PEOPLE THEREBY So that then by Mr. Iohn Cookes conclusion to speake in his owne words the Generall may throw the gauntles challenge all the MACHIAVELS IN the world to invent such an EXQVISITE PLATFORME of tyrannicall domination such a PERFECT TYRANNIE without MAIME or BLEMMISH as he is Prince or Emperour of and that by a Law which saith Mr. JOHN COOKE is worst of all And did not the present Generall before the late battel at Worcester ingage and promise before God several Officers of his Armie of the good people of England that if God blessed him with that victorie he would immediately be the effectual instrument to procure unto the people of England their naturall common legal and undoubted birth-right TO ELECT AND CHOOSE A NEW PARLIAMENT and did he not after the battaile engage the same and did he not come up to London and in the Parliament House immediately after his comeing up express himselfe full of zeale for the immediate calling a new-Parliament „ As that which they were bound in Conscience and duty both to God and Man forthwith to call „ And were not the Spirits and Hearts of thousands and ten thousands of the honest people of England refreshed thereby and cried him up as their earthly Saviour Redeemer therfore yet was his carriage therein any other then A PERFECT CHEAT AND DECEIT on purpose in peace quietnes to get disbanded scatterd all those forces that in their hearts longed for it and in their words expressed so much and it may be he feared were at Worcestor twice so many as hee all those that durst then joyne with him against it which necessitated him to give them good woords and faire promises till he got all the „ new-raised forces who were full of Life for a new Parliament disbanded „ all his owne Regiments that he was jealous of disperst scattered into small companies abroad in the Nation¿ and under the pretence of case of the Peoples taxes ordered hee not his Officers to disband a certaine number our of their troopes companies of the most choycest men that he was afraid were Possessed with such principles and did he not to the saddening of the Vniversality of honest mens hearts in England when hee imagined he had done his worke to his hearts desire vote declare the Parliament should after they had sate almost twelve yeares sit three yeares longer if they pleased and at three yeares end they may sit as long as they or hee lives if he please So that the people shall never have a New Parliament And upon this did not you and divers other honest men

would engage if SIR ARTHVR would doe the like THAT MY FREINDS SHOULD ENGAGE THEMSELVES IN A BOND OF 20 THOUSAND POUND FINALLY TO STAND TO HIS JUDGEMENT AND THEREIN TO ACQUIESCE WITHOUT FURTHER STRUGGLEING But he told me his occasions were great many and would not permit him time fully to heare so large a busynes as he was afraid it was Vnto which I replied My Lord Then in the 2d place if your Lordship please to propound this unto Sir Arthur that if he please to choose any two Officers in your Armie of those that hee leaves wee will choose two more Or 3dly if he like better to choose two Members of Parliament wee will choose two more and I will engage my Freinds shall bind themselves in the foresaid bonds to stand to their final judgement provided that wherein they cannot agree that so we may have an end your Lordship shall decide it Vnto which he replied it was so faire as fairer could not be offered by any man in the world and most solemnly engaged himselfe unto me to use his owne words to speake effectually to Arthur about it and at that time tooke of me my printed Booke against SIR ARTHVR and the „ fower unjust commissioners at Haberdashers Hall And promised me seriously to peruse it But although I was often in his way on purpose to waite upon him to receive his commands about it yet I never heard more of it from him although this discourse betwixt him and me was many weekes before Mr. Primates appeale to the Parliament Therfore I say considering all these things I must have a care how I trust a twice reconciled Enemy especially one that hath made so many and so glorious transcendent promises to the Nation of England and all sorts of honest Men contained in it as hee hath allready done severall times over as is before truly repeated AND MAKES NO CONSCIENCE AT ALL TO PERFORME ANY ONE OF THEM Yet for peace sake for affections sake to my endeared and poore wise I will the third time now goe as low in my propositions as possible with any safety or imaginable security I can upon the granting of which I will ingage to sit still and write no more against him unless he breake the engagement first And therfore in order to a third reconcilement I propose in the first place that seeing by Common right severall ancient and moderne statute Lawes yet in force the Parliaments and Armies fore-cited Declarations and the Vnanimous confession of all Interests and parties whatsoever a new and successive Parliament once a yeare is the undoubted birthright of the people of England seeing by the GENERALLS owne forementioned Declarations this Parliament THAT NOW IS IS NO PARLIAMENT AT ALL nor upon „ his owne principles never was since he declared and avowed they were traitors to their trust „ which in the yeare 1648 he did as has bin truly before recited and seeing by his and his Armies owne confession as is before truly mentioned there is no other Safe Secure Honest or Iust way to provide for the calling of future parliaments in England but by a „ Popular Agreement signed amongst and by the people that therfore he would immediately declare and give good Cautionary security that within three soure or 5 Moneths time the people of England shall choose and have sitting a new Parliament either upon the principles of our Agreement dated at the Tower of London May 1 1649 or upon the principles of their owne forementioned Agreement delivered by them to the House of Commons upon these conditions I will wave all things concerning my selfe or the Collierie of Harraton or my Freinds related therunto And further to manifest to all the world that my present necessitated and compelled struggleing is not to appropriate to my selfe either Government Rule Domination Riches or Greatnes I will be willing to give my full consent unto it under my hand and seale that an act shall be passed by this present Parliament to make me by name uncapable of being chosen of the next Parliament or bearing any Office in the Common-wealth of England dureing its sitting or comeing into England till it bee sate Now Sir it may be the Generall may be full of Indignation and scorne that such a nothing as my selfe should dare to make such a proposition to him of whom it may truly by reason of his greatnes be said as it is said in the 41 of Job of the LEVIATHAN that when he raiseth up himselfe the mighty are afraid the sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold the speare the dart nor the habergeon He esteemeth iron as straw brass as rotten wood the arrow cannot make him flee sling stones are turned with him into stubble darts are counted as stubble he laugheth at the shakeing of a speare upon earth there is not his like who is made without feare But if the Generall doe rage and scorne at what I say In calmnes I answer him In the first-place with the words of himselfe and his Armie as they are written in the 70 and last page of their grand Remonstrance from St. Albans 16 Novemb 1648 which thus sollowes Wee hope say they that in Age of so much light mere will or resolution will not be held forth or pursued against what has bin said But that what reason or righteousnes there is in the things which we have said will be considered folowed nor let it find prejudice with you meaneing the Parliament from any disdaigne towards those from whom it comes being in the condition of an Armie looked upon as servants under you since servants may speake to their Masters and ought to be heard regarded even when they speake for their owne right only rather when they speake for the good and safety of them they serve but much more when they speake of that wherein they have some joint Interest with them and yet more when those their immediate Masters being themselves also servants and trustees for the benefit of others they speake for the Interest of those for whom they are employed But if the Generall shall hold forth nothing but mere will and resolution against what I have heere said then in the Second place Let me tell both you him I am confident of it very speedily in one Kind or another he will meet with one way or another as bad a portion as hee or they did against whom that Remonstrance was made But thirdly I answeer him in the words of the Scripture Samuel 2. 22 26 27 28 and Chapter 23 2 3. where David speaking of God saith With the mercyfull thou wilt shew they selfe mercyfull with the upright man thou wilt shew thy selfe upright with the pure thou wilt shew thy selfe pure and „ with the froward thou wilt shew thy selfe unsavoury „ and the afflicted people thou wilt save „ but thine eyes are upon the haughtie „ that thou maiest bring them downe And David

contended for as those sonns of wickednes and Belial as David calls them 1 Sam 30.22 that would now ingross all to themselves Who though Christians in name may yet infinitely be condemned and reproved by the Righteousnes and justice OF NEHEMIAH though a jew in the like case Who although he 12 yeares together was Governour over his Countreymen in martial and civil affaires in the daies of their distress yet neither he nor his Brethren all that time did eat the bread of the Government nor bought any land but provided for strangers at his owne cost and at his owne table because of the reproach of the heathen their Enemies because of the feare of God Nehem 5.9 14 15 16. Nay he would not suffer the rich men in that day to exact usury of the poore men and righteous Abraham though not so full of religious pretences as the Lord Generall Cromwel when he had redeemed from Captivity by force of Armes the People of the wicked Citty Sodome whose King would have given him for his paines all the goods he had redeemed with them yet he scorned it and would not take any thing that was his or theirs noe not to the value of a show-latchet least the heathen should say he had made Abraham rich Genesis 14 15 22 23. I say I must be forced to all sorts of people to cry out bitterly for helpe and assistance to enable me to print thousands and ten thousands of my mournfull ditties and lamentations and to beare the charges of my messengers and agents by whom I must send them gratis into all the parts coasts of England Scotland Ireland and all the Isles thereunto belonging that possibly I can get them conveighed unto and I doubt not but allthough the Magistrates of Amsterdam have allready seazed upon some of my Apologies and thereby stopt the public sale of them being almost ten-sheets of paper in ENGEISH AND DUTCH yet that I shall either beg or borrow mony enough to inable me within a little time to give them and ten thousands of other printed papers away gratis For I doubt not but the Spirit of magnanimity zeale conscience will worke so powerfully in some of my rich Countreymen c. that now have no assurance by reason of that arbitrary and tyrannicall power they are under of keepeing what they possess and enjoy nor of their lives nor of their Liberties wives nor children to find out wayes and meanes to send me a supply of money to inable me like a man of mettle courage and industry to struggle for the obtaineing of a New Parliament for them and my selfe to bind up heale and cure all the breaches of our greatly distressed and distempered Nation thereby to secure unto them and my selfe the Free enjoyment of our ancient ond undoubted birth-right liberties that so in peace and quietnes with rejoyceing and praising of God for all his Fatherly goodnes and loveing kindnes manifested to poore England we may sit downe in security peace tranquillity of mind under our owne vines So committing you as my owne soule to the sweet and gracious protection of the Lord God allmighty the rock Re●uge of all those that truly have a portion in him I rest From my Study at Mrs. BEZARS HOUSE in Sheepes-alley in the Holy-way-street IN AMSTERDAM this present Fry●●● being the 2 April 1652. old Style Yours and Englands true and through-pac 't Friend JO LILBURNE SEMPER IDEM MY LORD I Doe assure you I tooke all the care that possibly I could that this foregoeing Letter written to your fast and real Freind Mr. William Kiffen might be delivered to your Lordship but seeing I have staid the outrunning of the time I did prefix in the 30 page foregoeing and have not heard one word as yet from any body in the world what is become of it Although I writ divers Letters to severall persons signifieing that I had sent such an Epistle over yea also gave a hint of it to your Lordship in my Letter to your selfe sent by the Post the Copie of which thus foloweth For his Excellency the LORD GENERALL CROMWELL these persent MY LORD AT my discourse with you in your Gallery about 4 or 5 Moneths agoe I had thought I had given your Lordship so full satisfaction in every thing that might remove all jealousies from you of my disserveing you in any Kind that of all men in the Parliament I little imagined to have found your honour to be the principall man to bannish me into a strange Countrie where for the Safety of my Life I am forced to print an Apologie And because you are named in it I judge it but manlike to send you a Copie of it And if I had not bin travailing last post day I had sent it to you then And I have also by this post sent to a Freind three sheeres of Paper in writing to communicate to your Lordship the which if you please to read them you will find that you are deeply concerned in them I have no more to say to your honour but to desire God for you if it be his pleasure to make you speedily as righteous in actions as you were some yeares agoe in Declarations and to take leave to say I am yet as much honest Amsterdam April 2 1652 Old style JOHN LILBURNE as ever I was in my life that neither loves Flattery nor feares Greatnes or Threatning ANd now my Lord besides that Apologie which I sent your Honour I have also here in Dutch and English printed the reasons wherefore I was necessitated to print that Apologie and they are dated they 4 of March last old style and in the said Apologie to the People of the Netherlands pag 71 I promised them speedily to print in Dutch the manifestation Agreement of the 1 of May 1649 therein named which being two sheets I have accordingly prepared for them with about as much more additions by way of appendix to my Apologie But seeing that upon the Magistrates stopping the public selling my said Apologie and by the „ cheife Scout or high-Sherif of Amsterdam „ giveing me some reasons therefore which begot from me this Replication that I was a man commonly reputed to have some stock of reason in me but being but a private individual man and also a stranger of another Nation and banished from thence and come here to take up sanctuary and therfore in mine owne understanding I should judge my selfe totally void of reason or judgement if I should press to enjoy that at their hands which they themselves judged pręjudicial to their whole nation or any part of it they themselves alone and not I in the least being the only and proper Judges of their owne good and well fare and therfore with all respect to them must acquiesce in their pleasure In this regard I say my Lord to avoid offence I judge it not fit to publish the said Appendix till such time as one where or an other I can freely obtaine licence to print avowedly what in that kind I have to say Now my Lord it may be severall of my Freinds in England may wonder why all this time I have not published the full state of the case betwixt Sr. Arthur Hasilrig Mr. Primate and my selfe But I must Apologize for my selfe that to secure my person and reputation hath taken me up much time as also the Magistrates stopping my Apologetical Narration hath forced me to spend much money and time to travell and looke out for my selfe where Safely to abide and print without offence Besides that busynes is a long worke although I brought over with me above 150 sheetes of written paper of that busynes as it was taken at the said committee in short-hand yet for a long time I have wanted some part of the beginning and latter end of it as also copies of severall orders and of depositions I could not for want thereof goe on with it but now by Gods assistance I shall apply my selfe unto it with all the vigour that possibly I can And this before I conclude give me leave further to aver unto your Lordship I am an English-man borne and bred to breath in the ayre of England is as much my right as yours I have contested fought with my sword in my hand for the enjoyment of my share in the Lawes Liberties thereof never was convicted of doeing any action that forseited my portion therein And therfore by the assistance of God I will turne all the stones in the world that it is possible for a resolute man an industrious man a man of braines to turne to make way for my comeing to England againe for my liveing there in a rational security although in the indeavouring thereof I run the hazard of being exposed to all the miseryes and deaths that it is possible for a man to be exposed to And yet I hope through the strength of God I shall undertake nothing but righteous and honest wayes for the procureing thereof But this I assure you my Lord I groundedly thinke that I or any man else that will not be your absolute slave can never live in a rational probable Safety in England so long as your will is an absolute Law there Therefore My Lord sit as fast as you can In the strength of the Lord God almighty have at you and if I perish I perish But if you will let us have in England new and annuall Parliaments upon the termes before premised I have done in your doeing thereof shall rest Yours to serve you therein JOHN LILBVRNE From my lodgeing at that pleasant City of much refuge that little Zoar commonly called VIANEN May 1652. POSTSCRIPT My Lord if you set any of your Champions to write against me be sure they set their Names to their discourses or else truly my Lord I shall take you your selfe for the Author of every paper that comes out against me so nominally reply upon you FINIS