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A64570 A speech of VVilliam Thomas, esqvire in Parliament in May 1641 being a short view and examination of the actions of bishops in Parliament from Anno Dom. 1116 to this present of 1641 in the severall reignes of 23 kings and queens of this kingdome of England, &c. : in all and each of their times it is made to appeare they have been most obnoxious to prince and people and therefore that it is not fit or convenient that they should continue members of that honourable House in which they have beene so disloyally and traiterously affected to regality and no lesse mischievous and pernicious to church and commonwealth. Thomas, William, Sir, d. 1653? 1641 (1641) Wing T985; ESTC R8551 19,310 28

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grandchilde who succeeded him we read that when in Parliament in London the Laity had granted a fifteenth on condition that the Clergie would likewise give a●tenth and a halfe William le Courtney then Archbishop did stifly oppose it alleaging they ought to be free nor in any wise to be taxed by the laity which answer so offended the Lords and Commons that with extreame fury they befought the King to deprive them of their temporalties alleadging that it was an almesdeed and an act of charity thereby to humble them that was then deliverd for an almesdeed and an act of charity which is now accounted sacriledge and cruelty The next that succeeded him was Henry the fourth but an usurper also for at that time there were living of the house of Yorke others whose right by the title of Clarence was before his as Mortimer c. In opposition to his claime and right the Bishop of Carlile made a most eloquent oration but to what purpose to perswade his dethroning now vested in the regall government and therby to engage the Kingdome in a civill warre which when his oratory could not effect he laboured and so farre prevailed that by his subtile insinuations and perswasions many Princes of the bloud royall and other great Lords were drawne to a conspiracy himselfe laying the plot and together with the Abbot of Westminster the chiefe wheeles of all the practice as moving the rest for the Kings death whereby he brought to the block those noble Peeres and as his pestilent counsell had infected their minds so was the bloud of them and theirs tainted by this foule treason but as I discommend his disloyall actions so I no better approve the other flattering and timeserving Bishops who did pleade the right of the title of the said King more eloquently then honestly more rhetorically then divinely for which their expressions they were imployed as Embassadours to forraigne parts to declare and justifie his title and right to the Scepter the Bishop of Hereford to Rome the Bishop of Duresme to France the Bishop of Bangor to Germany and the Bishop of St. Asaph to Spaine which Bishop of Asaph sate as Iudge in that Parliament and pronounced the sentence of deposition against King Rich. The forme as neare as I remember was We John Bishop of St. Asaph John Abbot of Glastenbury Commissioners named by the house of Parliament sitting in place of judgement c. Here you may note that the Bishop did passe judgement of a great inheritance no lesse then two or three Kingdomes and though not betweene two brothers but cosins yet did adjudge most wrongfully as was most apparant I note withall that the title of Lord is not assumed by this King-deposing Bishop nor any other that I reade of Now what hee had judged in Parliament his holy brother of Canterbury must make good in Pulpit delivering What unhappinesse it was to have a childe either of age or discretion to be a King and what felicity it was to a Kingdome to have it governed by a man Certainly a most dangerous position to an hereditary Monarchy I also note that this Archbishop was brother to the Earle of Arundell and at the same time the Archbishop of Yorke a neare kinsman to the Earle of Wiltshire and who durst then plead against the right of the Bishops sitting in Parliament In the same Kings reigne Richard le Scroope the Archbishop of Yorke did in Parliament enter into conspiracy with Thomas Mowbray Earle Marshall against the said King for which they were both beheaded I say the Archbishop as well as the Earle Marshall had his head cut off iterate it because some have doubted whether an Archbishop may be beheaded And now in the said Kings reigne in the Parliament of Coventry let me also tell you that in the said Parliament as in other both before and after a Bill was exhibited against the Temporalties of the Clergy who called that Parliament Parliamentum indoctorum saying that the Commons were fit to enter Common with their cattle having no more reason then bruit beasts This is Speeds delivery but I take it that he repeateth it as the Prelates censure of the house of Commons But to him succeeded Henry the 5. in his time did not Henry Chichley in an eloquent oration in Parliament revive the warres with France by declaring the Kings right thereunto to the effusion of much Christian blood and to the losse of all we had there To expiate which he built a Colledge in Oxenford to pray for the soules slaine in France Though what hee did then deliver was true of the Kings right to the Crowne of France as was also the other of Iohn Archbishop of the same See in Ed. 3. time and no lesse true was that of Carlile against Hen. 4. title Yet I may say it was not the office or function of a Bishop to incense warres domesticke or forraigne Nay this Bishop did set this warre on foot to divert the King from reformation of the Clergy For in that Parliament held at Leicester there was a petition declaring that the temporall lands which were bestowed on the Church were super●●uously and disorderly spent upon hounds and hawkes horses and whores which better imployed would suffice for the maintenance of 15. Earles 1500. Knights 6200. Esquires an hundred Almeshouses and besides of yearly rent to the Crowne 20000. pounds From him I come to his sonne H. 6. I reade many accusations that Gloucester the good protector did lay to the charge of Beaufort the Cardinall of Winchester and Lord Chancellor great uncle to the King living sonne to Iohn of Gaunt alledging him a person very dangerous both to the King and State his brother of Yorke a Cardinall also together with the other Bishops no better For wee reade of Archbishop Bourchier and other Bishops that they did shamefully countenance the distraction of the time These as I delivered before though bad in Parliaments yet too great to put out I will not now speake of many other particulars that I might either in this Kings reigne or his successors to King H. 8. for that I desire to declare what they did since the reformation yet therein will be as briefe as I may having already too much provoked your patience for which I crave humble pardon To Henry the sixt succeeded Edward the fourth who indeed had the better title to the Crowne notwithstanding Archbishop Nevill Brother to the King-make-Warwick with others did conspire and attempt his dethroning and after tooke him prisoner and kept him in his Castle of Midleham and after in Parliament at Westminster did they not declare him a traitor and usurper confiscate his goods revoke abrogate and make frustrate all Satutes made by him and intaile the Crowne of England and France upon Henry and his issue male in default thereof to Clarence and so disabling King Edward his elder Brother But to hasten I will passe over