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A84985 Severall proposalls from his excellency Sr Tho. Fairfax: and the general councel of the armie Shewing their humble desires in those things which concerns them as souldiers. Together with a letter, tendered to the Lords and Commons Commissioners of Parliament, residing with the army. To bee by them humbly represented to both Houses of Parliament. By the appointment of his excellency Sr Thomas Fairfax, and the generall councel of the army. Signed John Rushworth, secretary. Putney the 22. of Septemb. 1647. England and Wales. Army.; Fairfax, Thomas Fairfax, Baron, 1612-1671. 1647 (1647) Wing F234A; ESTC R229838 3,286 12

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