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A42360 Two speeches of Mr. James Guthry before the Parliament one after the reading of his indictment, Feb. 21, 1661, the other immediately after the reading of the processe, April 10, 1661. Guthrie, James, 1612?-1661. 1661 (1661) Wing G2267A; ESTC R12166 12,150 16

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