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A00759	A defence of the liturgie of the Church of England, or, Booke of common prayer In a dialogue betweene Nouatus and Irenæus. By Ambrose Fisher, sometimes of Trinitie Colledge in Cambridge.	Fisher, Ambrose, d. 1617.; Grant, John, fl. 1630.	1630 (1630)	STC 10885; ESTC S122214	157,602	344

all worke vpon that Day I. Were that granted which may not bee because the affirmatiue speaketh of Sanctification the negatiue of rest yet how will you make these wordes I am thy Lord thy God c. an affirmatiue Commandement Considering that in them there is no assertiue charge but only a narratiue claime of Gods right vnlesse by implication of Consequence you frame an affirmation by which kinde of Art you may finde an affirmatiue in each precept N. The sceond thing wee dislike in your rehearsall of the Law is the Prayer inserted by the People betweene euery Commandement Lord haue mercie vpon vs and incline our hearts to keepe this Law I. Is there not a Prayer put betweene euery Commination in Deuteronomie Is not Amen Deut. 27 15. c or So be it a direct Prayer ioyned with an assent Is not this Prayer of the People in our Liturgie directed by the patterne and d Exod. 19. 8. Deut. 5. 27 29 1● 18. 32. 29. Psal 81. 13. words of Scriptures N. After the Commandements comes the Commination wherein we dislike these words vntill the said discipline may bee restored againe which thing is much to be wished I I haue heard some of your brethren say that these words are very laudable because in them is partly promised and partly wished at least in their opinion that Discipline of the Church which you pretend to be most ancient but wee auouch to bee so new that hardly any of you can agree about the fundamentall points thereof N. At first we hoped some such good motion was in the mindes of them that framed the Liturgie But since that time wee haue found the true meaning of the riddle namely that the intention thereof is only a Popish Lent Penance I. Had you ploughed with our Heyfer and read the words immediatly going before this should haue beene no riddle or Aenigma The wordes are these In the Primitiue Church there was a godly Discipline that at the beginning of Lent such persons as were notorious sinners were put to open penance But you as cunning in compounding and deuiding as hee that left out these words of the Psalme e Psal 91. 11. Math. 4. 6. to keepe thee in all thy wayes haue onely remembred these words In the Primitiue Church there was a godly Discipline and so building Castles in the aire benighted your selues in wandring in the wildernesse of your owne fancies But tell mee doe you dislike our open Penance N. What we dislike you shall know when we come to the Visitation of the Sicke Now there remaine two things The Catechisme and the Homilies The Latter whereof shall be deferred to some fitter opportunitie In the Catechisme these words are most dangerous Redeemed mee and all mankinde by which the errour of vniuersall grace seemes to be defended I. Saith not the Scripture that the benefit by Christ is come to f Rom. 5 18. all euen to iustification and that he died for g 2. Cor. 5. 14 15 all and what difference put you betweene all men and all mankinde N. By all there wee vnderstand all the Elect. I. So here wee may interpret all the Elect of mankinde Againe how are Sinners against the Holy Ghost sanctified by the bloud of the h Heb. 10. 29. 2. Pet. 2. 1. Testament and how are Seducers bought by our Lord N. Some say in Appearance and Profession others say better that Christ died sufficiently for all men but effectually for beleeuers alone I. Your latter answer cleareth all the doubt For Christ his Bloud was sufficient for the Redemption of all Mankinde had they beleeued Others more subtilly answer That as the Law intended to condemne all So Christ purposed to saue all though vpon a different respect And this they exemplifie by the diuers letters of Ahashuerosh and by the resistance made by the Angell but this is as Hest 8. 14. Dan. 10. 13. Subtle as Safe CHAP. XII Of the Sacraments in generall and of Baptisme N. OTher exceptions against your Catechisme because they belong to the Sacraments shall bee handled in them Now therefore from Speech onely wee come to Speech and Action mingled of which are compounded both Sacraments and other Rites Touching the Sacraments in generall wee dislike these words in the new addition to your Catechisme two generally necessary to Saluation wherein you discouer your errour concerning both the number and end of the Sacraments The first may bee thus proued Where there bee two Sacraments generally necessary there more then two be necessary in speciall But the latter is vnsound Therefore also the former I. That your Maior is dawbed with vntempered morter may thus appeare Where foure elements bee generally necessary for liuing creatures there more then foure are in speciall necessary But the latter is vntrue Therefore likewise the former N. Your Maior is doubtfull For this word Which last is not only in trees but euen in Mineralls generally may bee referred to the predicate thus That the foure elements are in generall necessary for all things which partake of Life whither it be the life of Motion of Sence or of Vegetation and so the Speech is true But if you referre it to the Subiect and make foure general elements and more particular besides you will runne within the premunire of an errour I. In like manner must our speech be interpreted Namely that there bee two Sacraments generally necessary for all men But now confirme your Minor for I beleeue you founder in this opinion N. Sacraments may not come by the corrupt following of the Apostles Neither may they be only States of life commended in Scripture But principally they may not want a visible signe or Ceremony ordained of God But the fiue Popish Sacraments Confirmation Penance Orders Matrimonie and Extreame Vnction are such And therefore can be no Sacraments of the Gospell And by consequent there are onely two Baptisme and the Lords Supper I. First your Maior is not so sure as you dreame of For tell me I pray you must the signe of each Sacrament be visible Might not Ahijah the Prophet be partaker of the Passeouer after his sight failed him N. I did not meane that euery receiuer must see the signe but that the signe must be visible at least to some I. And not to the receiuer To him then it is not a visible signe and so no actuall Sacrament N. Some by Visible vnderstand Sensible Namely that which may bee apprehended by any outward sence I. This exposition as it is large and yet true So will it be preiudiciall to your selfe To come next to your Minor First tell me Did Matrimony come from the corrupt following of the Apostles N. That first clause of the Minor is only ment Marke 6. 13. Iames 5. 14. of anoyling taken from the imitation of the Apostles howsoeuer the gift of healing bee now ceased I. Yea but is Anoyling a state of life commended in Scripture

Men Old or Young Well or Ill-grounded What Art or what Tongue Soe're they durst professe hearing his name Blusht here return'd to schoole and t' was no shame By Lectures of faire vertue by discourse Rich sacred and well couch'd he adding force Faire Dames to your Great Beautie yet his debter Sweetned your sweets and made your goodnesse better The Little Wantons made their Mothers weepe To see their forwardnesse so could they keepe The Blind-Man's pow'rfull Formes for by their lookes They knew their letters ere they knew their Bookes So rare his Methods were so sweet so free The Nurses milke was not so good as Hee For all the Learned Tongues Philosophie All Humane-Arts Poësie Historie They had beene Wonders Singled had they bin So full as they met in this Magazin And for the Great Theologie iust fame Gaue him all th' Art and Power of his ¶ A Fisher of Men. Name Now if that any Tongues or any Arts Goodnesse or Vertue 's losse may pierce our hearts Why should these marbles weepe alone In you Reader t' is sacriledge not to weepe too Sigh's are but Rites a Punctuall-Sacrifice And Voluntarie were not Teares but Eyes And t were a profitable losse to thee That thou might'st so become as Blind as Hee As for that light thou read'st these cold lines by Know t' is but Enuie keepes the Sunne so dry For t' is presum'd the Day-Guide could not loue him That saw so much without him and Aboue him A Table of the Chapters in generall and Contents in Particular Of the first Booke CHAP. I. Generall arguments against the Liturgie pag. 1. THe salutation of Bonum mane and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 1. The name of Christmas p. 3. Our Liturgie no Masse-booke p. 4. Preaching of Sermons not hindred by our Liturgie nor the zeale of the people thereby quenched p. 7. CHAP. II. Of set Prayer imposed by men and of subscription pag. 9. Of Set Prayer p. 10. Of Subscription thereto p. 12. Of things indifferent p. 15. CHAP. III. Of Feasts and Fasts pag. 17. Of appointing Festiuals p. 17. Of dedicating them to creatures p. 18. The names of Moneths p. 20. Saints Dayes p. 22. Michael the Archangell a creature p. 23. The Apostles Holy Dayes p. 27. The Children slaine by Herod whether Innocents p. 27. And how Martyrs p. 28. Of Set Fasts p. 29. Of Lent p. 31. Of Wednesdayes Fridayes and Saturdayes Fast p. 32. CHAP. IV. Of Place and Ornaments pag. 32. Whether Churches abused to Idolatrie ought to be destroyed p. 33. Of Vniuersities p. 34. The Dedication of Churches p. 37. Of Chancels ibid. Of the Surplice p. 39. CHAP. V. The Preface Of the Common Prayers pag. 43. Of these words in the Preface Inuitatorie At what time so-euer c. p. 43. Of that saying after mee p. 45. The Confession of Faith repeated p. 47. CHAP. VI. Of the Lords Prayer pag. 48. Of repeating the Lords Prayer p. 48. And omission of the Doxologie p. 52. CHAP. VII Of short Prayers pag. 54. Of Short Prayers p. 54. Of the word Priest p. 55 Of the Peoples Responsals p. 60. Of Gloria Patri c. p. 61. Of those words among the Responsals there is no other that fighteth for vs but onely thou O Lord p. 63 CHAP. VIII Of the Letanie p. 65 Whether the Letanie want Thanksgiuing p. 65 Whether these words By the Mysterie of thy holy incarnation c. be an Oath or Magicall Exorcisme p. 67. Of that prayer That God would haue mercie vpon all men p. 69. Whether we pray for the Dead in these words Remember not the offences of our Fore-fathers p. 70. Of that Illuminate all Bishops c. p. 74. Of that from fornication and all other deadly sinne p. 76 Of the number of Prayers for Temporall blessings p. 79 Of Lightning Tempest p. 83. Of sudaine death p. 84. CHAP. IX Of Hymnes p. 86 Of Musique in Churches p. 86. Of Magnificat Benedictus Nunc dimittis p. 91. Of Te Deum and Benedicite p. 92. Of that When thou hadst ouercome the sharpnesse c. p. 93 CHAP. X. Of Collects and Creeds pag. 93 Of those words in the Collect Grant that this day wee fall into no sinne p. 94. Of those in the power of the Maiestie to worship the Vnitie p. 95. The tearme of Penance p. 96. Of Chance p. 97 No merit intimated in those words of the Collect vpon Ashwednesday that wee worthily lamenting our sinnes c. p. 98. Nor despaire in those in that Collect vpon the twelfth Sunday after Trinitie Sunday and in that fift after the Offertorie p. 99 The often Rehearsall of the Apostles Nicene and Athanasian Creed pag. 102 Of equalizing them to the Canonicall Scripture ibid. of standing at the Creed rehearsed p. 103 CHAP. XI Of God's speech in the Liturgie p. 104 Of omissions in the Commandements p. 104 Of the prayer vsed by the People betweene euery Commandements p. 108. Of the Commination ibid. Of those words in the Catechisme redeemed me and all mankind p. 109 CHAP. XII Of the Sacraments in generall and of Baptisme p. 110 Of the two Sacraments generally necessarie to saluation pag. 211. Of the visible signe 113. Of their necessitie to saluation pag. 115. Of those words in Baptisme vnlesse a man be borne of water c. p. 117. Of the sanctification of water in Baptisme pag. 125. Of Godfathers pag. 126. Of the naming of Children pag. 128. Of priuate Baptisme p. 129. Of Womens baptizing pag. 131 Of conditionall Baptisme p. 132 CHAP. XIII Of the Crosse in Baptisme p. 134 The Crosse in Baptisme no breach of the Commandements no Idoll p. 134. No Idolothite p. 142 As wee vse it there is no Superstition in it p. 143 neither cause of Scandall p. 146 CHAP. XIV Of Confirmation p. 150 Of Confirmation both in the signe thereof p. 151. and grace thereby p. 152. Not preferred by vs before Baptisme p. 154 CHAP. XV. Of the Lords Supper p. 157 Of those words least after that holy Sacrament c. and whether Iudas receiued the Lord's Supper p. 157. Of kneeling at the Communion p. 160 CHAP. XVI Of the Visitation of the Sicke p. 173. Of the necessitie of the Communion p. 173. Of the Communion in priuate p. 174. Of Absolution with authoritie and to particular men applied p. 175 CHAP. XVII Of Matrimonie p. 177 Of the strait charging of the parties to be married p. 177. The Oath ex Officio p. 178. Of the consent of Parents before Marriage p. 179. Of errour in the Person p. 180. Of Eunuchs Hermaphrodites Leprosie Falling Sicknesse c. ibid. Of seperation by death p. 181. Of infidelitie and adulterie and how they make separation after Marriage p. 182. Of those words with my bodie I thee worship p 184. Whether Saint Paul were the Authour of the Epistle to the Hebrewes p. 185. Of asking Banes in the Church pag. 187. Of the married parties kneeling before the Communion Table p. 189. Of