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A67875 Laudensium apostasia: or A dialogue in which is shewen, that some divines risen up in our church since the greatness of the late archbishop, are in sundry points of great moment, quite fallen off from the doctrine received in the Church of England. By Henry Hickman fellow of Magd. Colledg Oxon. Hickman, Henry, d. 1692. 1660 (1660) Wing H1911; ESTC R208512 84,970 112

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