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A34573	Stafford's memoires, or, A brief and impartial account of the birth and quality, imprisonment, tryal, principles, declaration, comportment, devotion, last speech, and final end, of William, late lord viscount Stafford, beheaded upon Tower-hill on Wednesday the 29. of December 1681 hereunto is also annexed a short appendix concerning some passages in Stephen Colleges trial.	Corker, James Maurus, 1636-1715.	1681 (1681)	Wing C6306; ESTC R20377	92,206	80

Stafford's Memoires OR A Brief and Impartial Account OF THE BIRTH and QUALITY IMPRISONMENT TRYAL PRINCIPLES DECLARATION COMPORTMENT DEVOTION Last SPEECH and Final END OF WILLIAM late Lord Viscount STAFFORD Beheaded upon Tower-hill on Wednesday the 29. of December 1681. Published for Rectifying all Mistakes upon this Subject Wisd 4. Vitam illorum estimabamus insaniam Finem illorum sine Honore c. Hereunto is also annexed a short APPENDIX concerning some Passages in STEPHEN COLLEDGES TRIAL Printed in the Year MDCLXXXI The INTRODUCTION IT is a wonder to see how Passion and Interest predominate over Reason in Mankind Nothing is done nothing said without some tincture of either or both Even common Occurrences are usually related as Men would have them to be rather then as they are Plain-dealing is almost fled And all things now a days whether Private or Publick Sacred or Prophane are according to different Inclinations without regard to Truth promiscuously made the Subject of a Satyr or Panegirick An obvious example of this we have in the several accounts given of the Tryal Declaration Demeanor and Death of the late Lord Stafford concerning whose Tragedy though acted for the most part in the face of the whole Nation yet there have flown about in a manner as many and those contradictory Stories as there are Relaters and such as know least commonly talk most to compleat the Error It is true the Printed Tryal set forth by Authority is no wise liable to these gross mistakes But it hath swelled in the Press by forms c. To so vast a volume that few can spare either money to buy it or time to read it Besides it is in a manner silent of matters chiefly designed for the Subject of this Treatise viz. My Lords Comportment Declaration Devotion Last Speech and other Occurrences which happened inclusively from the time of his Tryal to his final end Having therefore attained to a most exact and certain knowledge of these particulars I shall for the satisfaction of the curious and manifestation of Truth give together with an abstract of the whole Tryal and some occurrences concerning it a plain and sincere relation of what I know and can by unquestionable Evidence justify to be true And herein I shall also totally abstain from any the les● moralizing upon transactions whereby to forestal the Readers Judgment But contenting my self with a plain and candid Relation of things as I find them leave every one to the freedom of his own censure and verdict upon them SECT I. My Lords Birth Education Quality c. William Howard Viscount Stafford was second Son to Thomas Earl of Arundel and Uncle to the now Duke of Norfolk In his youth he was educated with all care and industry imaginable to improve in him the endowments of Nature and Grace And to speak truth he was ever held to be of a generous Disposition very Charitable Devout addicted to Sobriety inoffensive in his words and a lover of Justice When he arrived to years of maturity he married Mary descended from the ancient Dukes of Buckingham Grandchild to Edward and Sister and sole Heiress to Henry Lord Stafford To whose Title he succeeded being created by the late King Charles of Glorious memory Baron Anno 1640. And soon after Viscount Stafford During the time of the last bloody Rebellion he suffer'd much for his Loyalty to the King Always behaving himself with that courage and constancy as became a Nobleman a good Christian and a faithful Subject After his present Majesties joyful restauration he lived in Peace Plenty and Happiness Being blessed with a most Virtuous Lady to his Wife And many pious and dutiful Children In which state he remained till the 66. year of his age when happened this Revolution of his fortune as followeth SECT II. My Lords Imprisonment Charge and Arraignment c. ABout Michaelmas Anno 1678. Mr. Titus Oates formerly a Minister of the Church of England accused upon Oath before the King and Council and not long after also before the two Houses of Parliament several Roman Catholicks some Persons of Quality and amongst the rest the Lord Viscount Stafford of High Treason for intending and designing the Death of the King the introducing of Popery and subversion of the Government My Lord though he immediately heard of this Impeachment yet relying as he said on his own Innocence never left his Family nor withdrew himself from his ordinary known Acquaintance and Affairs till the 25th of October 78. when by Virtue of a Warrant from the Lord Chief Justice he was sent Prisoner to the Kings Bench and from thence soon after to the Tower where he remained above two years before he could be admitted to Tryal During this interval the whole Nation was surprized and allarm'd with the noise of an horrid Plot contriv'd by the Pope Priests and Jesuits wherein the King was to be murthered Armies raised Protestants Massacred and the three Kingdoms destroyed by Fire and Sword the People were affrighted searches made Guards doubled and all in an uproar The King hereupon consulted the Parliament and both Houses declared it a Plot. Yet to strengthen the Evidence as yet but weak and make farther discoveries Indempnities are promised Rewards proposed and encouragements given by Proclamation to any who would make out upon Oath the particulars of what in substance was already declar'd By this and the like sedulity of the King and three succeeding Parliaments several new Witnesses came in First Captain Bedlow Next Dugdale Prance and two others Bolron and Mowbray out of the North Then Mr. Jennison Smith Seigneur Francisco Dangerfield Zeile Lewis c. Lastly one Mr. Turbervile who together with Oates and Dugdale gave Evidence against this Lord Stafford of whom we now treat After two years Imprisonment when many Roman Catholicks both Priests and others had been Executed and most of the rest Imprisoned or fled At length my Lord was brought to his Tryal on the 30 th day of Novem. 1680. at the Peers Bar in Westminster-Hall the House of Commons being present and the Lord Chancellor High-Steward of England The Impeachment was drawn in the name of the Commons of England wherein my Lord was charged together with other Papists for having imagin'd and contriv'd to murder the King to introduce Popery and subvert the good Government of Church and State established by Law To this Impeachment my Lord being thereupon arraigned pleaded Not Guilty Allegations in proof of the Plot in general ¶ 1. THen the Cause was opened and the Commons Learned Counsel who were appointed Managers of the Tryal set forth the Charge in most Copious and Eloquent Language And beginning first with the Plot in general they shew'd to the life the Wickedness the Malice the Horror of so Dreadful Bloudy and Hellish a Design They strongly insisted on the express Positive Oaths of the Witnesses upon whose Testimony the credit of this Plot chiefly depended They amply dilated upon the Letters of Coleman

along with you to shew you the way for I have asked his Lord leave for him to go Upon this Dugdale having now leave went along with Furnesse to the Stable and took Horse Furnesse his Horse was not ready but he overtook Dugdale within half a Mile and they arrived at the Race together about twelve a Clock My Lord himself with other persons of Quality came to the Race not long after and returned back to Tixal about seven at Night The same Mr. Furnesse and George Leigh both Attested that my Lord never sent either of them for Dugdale that he never bid them go out of the Chamber or absent themselves whilst Dugdale alone remained with him No nor did they know that my Lord was ever alone with Dugdale either that Morning or in his whole Life To Infringe the last Particle of this last Evidence the Mannagers produced these Witnesses Mr. Hanson Deposed That he once saw Dugdale with my Lord in the Parlour at Tixal but durst not be positive whether they were alone or not William Ansell Deposed That passing through the Court at Tixal he saw my Lord walking with Dugdale That he heard no Discourse between them That there might be more in the Company but he saw no more And lastly added that talking one day with Dugdale about the Plot Dugdale answered God Blast him if he knew any thing of it UPon these Evidences the Mannagers made these Observations First My Lords two Witnesses Furness and Leigh were his own Servants Secondly They were very positive in a matter hard to remember viz That Dugdale never was in my Lords Company And therefore that easie Credit should not be given to them but rather to Hanson and Ansell who both Swear that they have seen my Lord and Dugdale together To which the Papists answer These common Sophismes and weak Objections made to the Convincing Evidence here given by my Lord in Confutation of the main matter laid to his Charge argue the Mannagers at a loss for an Answer To the first Whom could my Lord produce but his Servants to contradict the Falsities of a man that pretends to have heard him speak Treason whilst he was Dressing in his Bed-Chamber Are Ponest Servants because Servants no good Witnesses To the second Though it should be granted that at other times and upon other occasions Dugdale might have been in my Lord's Company either unknown to his Servants or not remembred by them or even by my Lord himself which is the utmost of what the Testimony of Hanson and Ansell can amount to yet this doth not at all weaken my Lord's Evidence nor clear Dugdale from Perjury herein For the chief things which my Lord s two Servants well remembred distinctly Attested and by most remarkable Circumstances fully proved was That my Lord did not send either of them for Dugdale nor was Dugdale alone with my Lord in his Chamber on the 21th of September in the Morning On all which particulars Dugdale laid the Stress of his Evidence and here it is he is directly Perjured FOurthly Dugdale at the forenamed Tryal of Sir George Wakeman positively Swore as my Lord proved by two Witnesses Mr. Gyfford and Mr. Lydcot both present at the said Tryal That he the said Dugdale having received a Letter on the 14th of October which mentioned the death of a Justice of Peace did the same day at an Ale-house in Tixal impart the Contents of the said Letter to Mr. Sambidge Kinsman to my Lord Aston And Mr. Philips Minister of Tixal And that they answered They heard nothing of it before Now to confute this my Lord produced for Witnesses the same Mr. Sambidge and Mr. Philips Mr. Sambidge protested upon his Salvation Dugdale never told him any such thing Nor did he ever hear of it till the Friday or Saturday Sir Edmundbury Godfrey was found at Bury-Hill Mr. Philips attested That he never heard of it either by Letter or Word of Mouth from Dugdale or any other till the death of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey was publickly known To ballance this Evidence the Mannagers produced these Witnesses Mr. Ansel deposed That at the Ale-house and day above named he heard Mr. Dugdale mention the death of a Justice of Peace Mr. Sambidge and Mr. Philips being then both in the House but not in the same Room with Ansel when Dugdale told the News William Hanson deposed That at the time and place aforesaid he heard Dugdale say There was a Justice of Peace Murdered that lived at Westminster And that when Dugdale told this News Mr. Sambidge and Mr. Philips were by and might have heard it if they would Mr. Birch and Mr. Turton both attested That about the fifteenth or sixteenth of the same October the news of Sir Edmundbury Godfreys Death was spread about the Countrey and seemed to take its first rise from Tixal UPon these several Evidences the Mannagers made these Observations First Mr. Sambidge was something deaf and might not here when Dugdale told him the news of the Death of a Justice of Peace Secondly Mr. Phillips the Parson being perhaps very Studious in his Employment might be wanting in point of Memory Thirdly The other Witnesses produced in Confirmation of Dugdel's Evidence make it our that he did impart the news at the time place and in the presence of the parties above-mentioned To which the Papists answer To the first If what the Mannagers alledge be true then is Dugdale here also proved Perjured by the Mannagers themselves For he expresly Swore at the said Tryal of Sir George Wakeman That Mr. Sambidge both heard and answered him Saying He heard nothing of the news before To the second No honest man affirms or denies any past words or actions but according as he remembers and to pretend want of Memory in a direct Evidence is the common Road whereby to evade all humane Testimony To the third The other Witnesses on behalf of Dugdale do in no sort make out the thing for which they are produced For Ansel doth not own that Philips and Sambidge were so much as in the same Room with Dugdale when he mentioned the death of a Justice of Peace Hanson indeed herein contradicting Ansel tells us they were in the Room but could not say they heard much less answered to the discourse of Dugdale which is the chief matter of Perjury here charged upon him As for what Mr. Birch and Turton declared concerning the Rumour soon after spread of the death of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey it nothing at all Enervates the present proof of Periury seeing it may well be true there was such a report and yet false that Dugdale had such a discourse with Sambidge and Philips as he positively Swears and they both as positively deny But enough hath been already said upon this Subject where we treated of the Death of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey FIfthly Dugdale in an Information given upon Oath Swore That presently after one Howard Almoner to the Queen went beyond

the Seas he was told by George Hobson then Servant to the Lord Aston That there was a Design intended for the Reformation of the Government to the Popish Religion Now it was owned and acknowledged in Court point blank contrary to this Information That the said Hobson was not Servant to the Lord Aston nor known by Dugdale three years after the departure of the said Almoner out of England UPon this proof of Dugdale's Perjury the Mannagers made this observation viz That Dugdale's words cited in the Information are capable of two senses either they may import Hobson told him there was a Design ever since the Almoner went away Or they may import Hobson told him presently after the Almoner went away there was a Design The first sense may refer to the matter told The second to the time when told The words taken in the first sense argue no contradiction in Dugdale's Testimony To which the Papists answer The words of the Information taken in their plain obvious and connatural sense clearly import Hobson related to Dugdale there was a Design which relation Hobson made to Dugdale presently after the time one Howard went beyond the Seas Nor can any other construction be put upon the words without manifestly wresting them from their Genuine signinification as every impartial Reader may see So that the proof here given of Dugdales Perjury is unanswerable THe third main Exception made by my Lord against Dugdale's Deposition was That he being conscious of his ill grounded Evidence had endeavoured to Suborn divers Persons to make false Oaths That so he might strenghten his own by others Perjury To make good this Exception Samuel Holt a Protestant attested That Dugdale desiring to speak privately with him told him If he would Swear that Walter Moore carryed Mr. Evers away he would give him Forty Pounds bidding him not be affraid to Swear for fear of my Lord Aston for he would hire him an Horse to get to London and place him so that where he now got one Shilling he should then get Five William Robinson attested That meeting with Dugdale about a twelve month ago he the said Dugdale perceiving Robinson to be then Dejected and Poor endeavoured to corrupt him by giving him a Treat and assuring him He should not want Money if he would please to be ruled by him Then he took an Handkerchief out of his Pocket wherein there seem'd to be about ten pounds and bid him If he wanted take Money there And lastly told him He could furnish him with Money and put him in a way to get Money if he would come in as Evidence against my Lord Stafford Which Robinson refused to do not knowing my Lord or any thing of him John Morral a Barber gave attestation in these words Mr. Dugdale the 6th of August last was twelve month sent for me to the White Horse in Ridgley and there when I came to him he told me I knew as much of the Plot as he I told him I was Innocent of the thing He Swore God dam him I knew as much as he Then I told him If he knew no more of it then I did he knew no more then my Lord Mayors great Horse did Then he took me aside Come said he you are a poor Man and Live poorly I can put you in a way whereby you may Live Gallantly I will give you Fifty Pounds in hand if so be you will Swear against Mr. Howard Sir James Simmons Mr. Herbert Aston and other Gentlemen of the Countrey that they were at such Meetings at Mr. Herbert Astons upon the Conspiracy of the Plot. To take off the Credit of the two first Witnesses in this matter viz. Holt and Robinson nothing material being objected against Morral or his Evidence the Mannager s produced Witnesses to prove they were Persons of evil reputation Against Holt one Sampson Rawlins a Taylor Deposed that Holt was a Drunken lewd Fellow That he heard him say There were none but Rogues would take Dugdale's part That he stole some Bottles of Wine out of my Lord Astons Celler That he called him the said Rawlins Rogue because he came up in His Majesties Service and would have Murdered him because he took Dugdales part Against Robinson the Earl of Macklesfield and Mr. Booth a Parliament Man both Deposed That Robinson was a Person of evil and prophane Conversation making a practice of Cheating at Dice Cock-fighting c. That he owned himself upon Examination to be a Rogue And had no other imployment or Livelihood To these unquestionable Evidences against Robinson my Lord reply'd He knew nothing of Robinson before and added It was very observable That Dugdale knowing it seems his Friend and Comrade Robinson to be a Cheat and then in want thought him a tool fittest for his purpose the most easily prevailed upon and most proper to make a Knight of the Post So that the two last worthy Witnesses did by their Evidence rather confirm then lessen the belief of Dugdale's Tampering with Robinson herein UPon these several Evidences the Mannagers made these Observations First It was not likely that Dugdale a stranger to Robinson should attempt to Suborn him to Swear against a Person he knew not and in a matter whereof he was wholly Ignorant Secondly It doth not appear that Dugdale had any ill will to Moore that should induce him to Suborn Holt to Swear against him Thirdly Both Robinson and Holt were Infamous Men the one being a Common Cheat the other a Drunken Quarrelsom Fellow and seeming to favour the Plotters Fourthly Morral was but a Poor Barber of no Reputation and one who might easily be brought to say what he did To which the Papists answer To the first Robinson was no Stranger to Dugdale He was as the Earl of Macklesfeild and Mr. Booth attested every where about Staffordshire remarkably known for Cheating at Dice Cock-sightings Races c. exercises also frequent with Dugdale himself Nor is it material that Robinson knew not my Lord Stafford nor any thing of him It was not Dugdale's business to find out a Man who to discharge a good Conscience would Swear what he knew But who to get Money would Swear what he knew not For which purpose Dugdale had good reason to think Robinson a very proper Instrument To the second It is plain matter of Fact that Dugdale having accused and Imprisoned Moore for carrying away E●ers but not able to prove it he would have hired Holt to make out his false accusation To the third If Robinson and Holt were Cheats and Rogues my Lord well inferred they were the more likely to be chosen by Dugdale for such Imployments as he had for them Though for Holt the greatest offence laid to his Charge seems to be that he Quarrelled with Dugdale's Witnesses as thinking no honest Man would take his part To the fourth Though Morral was Poor yet it doth not appear but that he was so honest as not to be

am hourly looking to hear of the hour of my Execution I have time by his Omnipotent mercy to lay my Heart prostrate on the ground to beg his Pardon and acknowledg his infinite mercy and goodness God grant me grace to reflect as I ought on all these assurances and as I ought to do love his Divinity and nothing created independently of him Nothing in this World but the Holy Trinity deserving the whole love and Adoration of Mankind God give me grace to love him and only him And though I cannot do it so well as otherwise I ought yet I hope I do it what I can And do firmly resolve by his holy Grace I will to the uttermost of my power so long as it shall please him to give me my life wholly and willingly to resign my self to his Holy will and doubt not by his Grace but to find more true delight in serving him then ever I did in the vanities of the World All Glory Praise and Honour be given unto him for all Eterni●● Amen THere was likewise found in his Chamber this following Prayer or Resignation Thou hast said O Lord he that loves Father or Mother c. more then me is not worthy of me I acknowledge most dear Lord that I love my Wife and Children as much as a loving Husband and tender Father can love a most deserving Wife and most dutiful Children but to shew that I love thy Divine Majesty more than them and my own Life to boot I willingly render up and forsake both for the love of thee and rather then to offend thee though by the contrary I may have life and all worldly advantages both for my self and them Receive therefore Dear Jesus this voluntary Oblation of both Take us into thy protection O Helper in opportunities in Tribulation Be thou a Judge and Spouse to the Widdow a Father to the Orphans and Salvation to all our Souls I rejoyce to have so dear a Pledge to Offer and present thee for all thy blessings and benefits bestowed upon Us and for thy sake who offeredst thy self for us to Death to the most ignominious Death of the Cross Receive therefore Sweet Jesus this poor Oblation of mine though all I am able to offer thee in union of all the Oblations of thy most Sacred Life Death and Passion and of all those Divine Oblations which have been are and ever shall be offered upon thine Altars All which I Offer thee and by thy hands to thy eternal Father O Father look upon the face of thy Christ and turn away thy face from my Sins O Holy Mary Mother of God all ye Holy Angels and Saints in Heaven make Intercession for me that what I deserve not of my self may by your Intercession be bestowed upon me Amen Jesu Amen Grant and ratisie what I ask for thy Names sake Amen On Sunday the 19 th of December Mr Lieutenant of the Tower came to him and told him He was sorry he must bring him the ill news that he must dye on the 29 th of this Month. To which dismal Message he undauntedly replyed I must obey Then added in Latine that Text of the Psalm Haec dies c. This is the day which our Lord hath made let us rejoyce and be glad in it After which turning himself to his almost dead-struck Lady he said Let us go to our Prayers UPon this occasion also he writ a little Schedule containing these words In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost This day Mr. Lieutenant came and told me I must dye God's Holy name be praised and I prostrate beseech him to have mercy on my sinful Soul And deal with me as his Omnipotence knows I am Innocent of what was falsly sworn against me I do not doubt of Salvation through the Passion of our most blessed Saviour IT was truly a matter of wonder and astonishment to those who lived and were conversant with him during this short remnant of his life to see with what Constancy and equal temper of mind he comported himself What interior Quiet and serenity he seem d to injoy What confidence he expressed in God What Charity to all even to the worst of his Enemies Death hath usually an aspect formidable to nature especially when Treason and Murder slie in the face of a guilty Conscience A man who hath warning and leisure deliberately to consider he is now upon the point of being just dragged out of this mortal State before the dreadful Tribunal of a severe Judge who knows the Secrets of his Heart there to receive an Eternal Doom of Hell and Damnation for crimes detested by God and Nature This man surely can never die without such Conflicts of horrour and despair as will almost prevent the hand of the Executioner yet there appeared in my Lord no other symptoms then those of a most pleasing Tranquility as if Innocence had Guarded him As if the Injustice of others had secured him As if the Holy Ghost had fortified him As if Christ Jesus had united him to his Sufferings and undertaken his conduct and defence THat very morning he was to dye he writ a Letter to his Lady which afterwards he delivered on the Scaffold to a Friend there present the contents whereof are these My Dear Wife I Have I give God humble thanks slept this night some hours very quietly I would not dress me until I had by this given you thanks for all your great Love and Kindness unto me I am very sorry that I have not deserved it from you God reward you Were I to live numbers of years I assure you I would never omit any occasion to let you know the Love I bear you I cannot say what I would nor how well and many ways you have deserved God of His most infinite mercy send us an happy meeting in Heaven My last request unto you is that you will bear my Death as well as you can for my sake I have now no more to do but as well as I can though not so well as I would to recommend my sinful Soul unto the mercy of the Holy Trinity who through the Passion Bloud and Merits of our Savour I hope will mercifully grant me a place though the lowest in Heaven God grant it And bless you and Ours St. Thomas of Canterbury's day 1680 past six in the Morning Your truly loving Husband William Howard The Manner and Circumstances of my Lord 's Final End WHen the hour appointed for his Death drew near he exspected with some impatience the arrival of Mr. Lieutenant telling his Friends that were about him he ought not to hasten his own death yet he thought the time long till they came for him A Gentleman then with him in his Chamber put him in mind that it was a cold day and that his Lordship would do well to put on a Cloak or Coat to keep him warm He answered He would for said

desired Mr. Lievtenant of the Tower might speak what he knew Hereupon Mr. Lievtenant declared That the Lord Aston would have come to an account with Dugdale in his the Lievtenants presence But that Dugdale put it off and said he would come some other time but from that time to this he never heard of him UPon these Testimonies the Mannagers made these following Observations First It was manifest from several Circumstances that Dugdale went not away from Tixal for Debt as seems here to be pretended but for fear of being apprehended for the Plot which argues he was then Conscious of his own Guilt in that matter Secondly Whereas Sawyer attests that Dugdale Swore he would be revenged on my Lord Aston because he would not own him for his Servant when Arrested for Debt If this were true yet seeing this Revenge was not intended against my Lord Stafford but against my Lord Aston It is Impertinent to be urged against Dugdale's present Evidence To which the Papists Answer To the first It is no wonder if at a time when Roman Catholicks were universally suspected and persecuted on account of the Plot Dugdale though not Conscious of any Guilt either in himself or others Yet being then a Catholick and hitherto undetermined to set up for an Evidence was in some apprehensions of comming into trouble and might therefore withdraw upon that Score But what is that to the present purpose Is it not also undeniably proved here That Dugdale was in Debt That for Debt he was Arrested and Imprisoned That for his Misdemeanors and not for Religion he was discarded by his Master That at last Beggery had surrounded him Revenge possessed him and Desperation Seized him If this hath been clearly proved 't is no hard matter to judge what was his end and aim in making his Discoveries And my Lords further Inferences hereupon are Soild and Good To the second The Evidence given of Dugdale's Revenge was not produced as if the said Revenge was chiefly intended against my Lord Stafford but only to shew that Dugdale was now upon the point of bidding adieu to Conscience and Honesty And desirous to satisfie at once both his Malice and Penury He contrived his Plot after the Model given him by Oates and Bedlow wherein he Accused some out of Revenge and others amongst whom my Lord Stafford as the most proper Persons to compleat the Number of Actors in his Tragick Farce IN defence of Dugdale's Reputation in point of Honesty Mr. Whitby declared That Dugdale had been long my Lord Aston's Servant received my Lord's Rents made his Bargains and Governed the rest of the Family That he dealt honestly with him That he had heard indeed some Trades-men complain he put them off without Money and would not pay them But that my Lord would hear nothing against him William Southal a Coroner deposed that he knew no ill of Mr. Dugdale that he was the Lord Aston's Bayliff and had a good repute with all those People who had dependence on the Family But that he himself never had any business with him Then he the said Southal gave a large relation how he had perswaded Dugdale being then in Custody for Debt to Discover the Plot By putting him in mind of his Duty and Allegiance to the King and assuring him If he would make a timely Discovery he should not only obtain his Majesties Gracious Paerdon but also a Reward of Two Hundred Ponnds By force of which Argument Dugdale at last assented to make Discoveries And accordingly gave in his several Depositions first in the Countrey before two Justices of the Peace afterwards before the Councel and lastly before the two Houses of Parliament Concerning this Southal the Lord Ferrers informed the Court That he had been very active against the King in the late Wars and had the Repute of a Pernicious Man against the Government To Impugne which Information the Lord Brook declared in behalf of Southal that his Mother had imployed him and found him honest in their Affairs And Mr. Gower farther testified That he found Southal extraordinarily zealous in prosecuting the Papists UPon these Evidences the Mannagers made these Observations First Mr. Whitby not only declares that Dugdale had dealt honestly by him But that my Lord Aston himself would hear nothing against him Secondly It is not always the Stewards fault if Workmen to great Persons sometimes want their Wages Thirdly Mr. Southal an understanding and zealous man had with much difficulty and strong Arguments the good fortune at last to succeed in parswading Mr. Dugdale to make a fair and plain Discovery of the whole Plot to the great happiness not only of Mr. Dugaale but of the whole Nation To which the Papists Answer To the first Though Dugdale perhaps dealt honestly with Mr. Whitby yet he might be a Knave and deal dishonestly with other People for all that And if my Lord Aston refused to hear any thing against him this very refusal argues there were Complaints made of him And my Lord himself in time both gave Ear to his Crimes and Discarded him for them as is already proved To the second Those Stowards who receiving Moneys of their Masters to pay poor Labourers their Wages shall as Dugdale did Defrand them of it the better to defray their own Extravagant Expences are no honest Men. To the third The Papists do not understand to what purpose this Testimony of Southal's is here produced for it is granted That Dugdale being in Goal and brought to extremity did after much struggling and reluctancy of Conscience abandon his Soul to Perjury And conceiving fair hopes of Success by the prosperous adventures of Oates and Bedlow by the present promise of 200 l. and by the perswasion of Southal a notorious Cromwellian at last plunged himself into deep and horrid Oaths not only incredible but morally impossible to be true THe second weighty Exception made by my Lord against Dugdale's Deposition was That he had directly and palpably Perjured himself in divers parts and circumstances of his said Deposition For instance of this First Dugdale now Swears He had an exact knowledge and deep concern in the Plot. He was not only a Confident but an Assistant in raising Armies Killing the King c. Now my Lord proved by several Irrefragable Witnesses That the said Dugdale had before at sundry times and on sundry occasions with dreadful Oaths and Execrations professed he knew nothing of any such thing The Witnesses were these Sir Walter Baggot and Mr. Kinnersley both Parliament-men Attested That Dugdale being Examined before them and other Justices of the Peace though he then took the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy in their Presence yet absolutely denyed any knowledge of the Plot. Mr. Whitgrave also a Justice of the Peace Attested that he earnestly Pressed and Encouraged Dugdale to make a Discovery of what he knew telling him Now he had taken the Oaths they looked upon him as one of

them and that he would do him all the Kindness he could To which Dugdale answered Truly for his part though he had the misfortune to Live amongst Papists yet he never liked their Religion Then Mr. Whitgrave urged him home saying Sir you may do your self a kindness and oblige your King and Country I am confident you know of this Horrid Plot pray do not stifle your Conscience with an Oath of Secrecy Let it come out Dugdale replyed as he hoped to be saved be knew nothing of it Thomas Sawyer Attested That two or three days before Dugdale began to Impeach being then at Stafford under the Serjeants Hands for Debt he took a Glass of Drink in the presence of Sawyer and said Thomas I wish this may be my Damnation and my Poison if I know of any Plot or Priest UPon these Evidences the Mannagers made this Observation viz. That Dugdale 's denying and with Execrations forswearing any knowledge of the Plot is no manner of Objection for he Forswore it at a time when he never intended to reveal it and was in danger of his own Life but afterwards he changed his mind and discovered all to Southal and others To which the Papists answer It is very strange so palpable a Perjury proved upon Dugdale by so Substantial Witnesses in the whole System and Essence of his Testimony should be so slightly evaded Is it no manner of Objection to prove that Dugdale is Forsworn in his whole Discovery Must Credit be given to the Depositions of a man in a matter whereof he himself with dreadful Oaths and Execrations hath often protested the contrary Is the Conviction of Perjury by the Testimony of his own Mouth nothing Why because out of fear in his former Oaths he never intended to Swear Truth Is this a Rational answer Nay is it not rather perfectly demonstrative from what is already proved that for Fear for Lucre for Revenge for Liberty this man hath actually Sworn to express Coniradictions and will not stick upon the same motives to Swear any thing SEcondly Dugdale had determinately Sworn at Sir George Wakeman's Tryal as my Lord proved by two Substantial Witnesses the Lady Marchioness of Winchester and Madam Howard that the Meeting or Consult at Tixal mentioned in the Deposition wherein my Lord is said to have been present and Consenting to the Killing of the King was held precisely in the Month of August 78. Now my Lord proved he never was at or near Tixal during that whole Month nor came thither till the 12th of September following This he shewed by giving an exact Account where he was every Week and Day throughout that Month. The Witnesses who gave respective Evidence to each particular time and place were the Marquess of Worcester the Marchioness of Winchester Mr. Bonny White and Bevan Servants to the said Marquess UPon those Testimonies the Mannagers made these Observations First The two Ladies who gave Evidence to Dugdale's words spoken at Sir George Wakeman's Tryal were Roman Catholicks and Relations to my Lord. Secondly They did not agree in their Evidence with one another The Lady Marchioness saying Dugdale Swore that my Lord Stafford was to come down into Staffordshire in June or July and was present at the Consult at Tixal in August Madam Howard saying Dugdale Swore my Lord Stafford did come down into Stafforashire in June or July and was present at the Consult at Tixal in August Thirdly The said Ladies having much concern upon them for Sir George Wakeman the Popish Physitian they might easily mistake in what they heard Fourthly in the Printed Tryal There are no such words of Dugdale's mentioned To which the Papists answer To the first The two Ladies though Roman Catholicks are persons of that Quality and known Vertue as admit of no Comparison in point of Credit with the Witnesses produced against my Lord. That to Vilify my Lord's Witnesses because Roman Catholicks is contrary to Law and denotes an Exasperated mind willing to deprive Catholicks of a Just Defence To the second The different manner or Phrase the Ladies used in expressing themselves in point of Circumstance is not at all material seeing they both joyntly agree and determinately Attest That Dugdale Swore my Lord was at Tixal in August and then and there present at the Consult Which was the Substantial thing wherein my Lord proveth him Perjured To the Third A deep concern occasioneth an Attention rather then a Mistake And a pretence of a mistake in a positive Witness is an Evasion whereby any Verbal Testimony whatsoever may be eluded To the Fourth Catholicks have Experience that many considerable matters have been omitted or otherwise inserted in the Printed Tryals to the disadvantage of their Cause And as those Printed Copies though pleaded were never allowed to be good Evidence for them so ought they not to be alledged against them THirdly Dugdale Swears in his Deposition That at Tixal on the 20th or 21th of September 78. My Lord sent for him by one of his Servants to his Chamber in the Morning whilst he was Dressing which Servant also Dugdale Swears was either Mr. Furnesse my Lords Gentleman or George Leigh his Page And that when Dugdale came into the Chamber my Lord sent out his said Servants and being thus with him alone Offered him five hundred Pounds to Kill the King In direct opposition to these particulars my Lord proved by the Attestation of the self same Servants Mr. Furnesse and George Leigh that he never sent for Dugdale never was with him alone in his Chamber nor never dismissed his Servants for that end all that Morning For the evincing of which Mr. Furnesse my Lords Gentleman Attested That he about eight a Clock that Morning coming to my Lords Chamber met Dugdale in the Hall Dugdale desired him he would Intreat my Lord to Intercede to the Lord Aston his Master in his behalf that he might go to Etching Race Hereupon Furnesse went into my Lords Chamber and having spoken to my Lord as Dugdale desired my Lord bid him be called in accordingly Furnesse conducted Dugdale into the Chamber when he came in my Lord asked him several questions about the Race telling him he himself would bett Twenty Pounds for Staffordshire sake Then after some discourse to this purpose my Lord Stafford told him he would speak to his Lord for him during all which time Furnesse was present in the Chamber together with my Lord and Dugdale and heard the discourse between them When Dugdale had obtained his request he went out of my Lord's Chamber leaving Furnesse still there my Lord also as soon as he was drest went out of his Chamber to my Lord Aston to ask him leave for Dugdale bidding Furnesse make himself ready to go to the Race Furnesse accordingly made himself ready about Nine a Clock and coming down the Back-stairs my Lord Stafford met him Go saith he to Etching-hill and see what Betts there are and take Stephen Dugdale