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A90097 An occasional dialogue at a coffee-house, between Philanax Britannicus, and Calophilus Anglus, two loyal English gentlemen, sincere lovers of justice, truth, and their nations honour / authore Coffo-Philo. Carr, William. 1667 (1667) Wing O1230; ESTC R181170 12,488 24

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pleased to wade so far in this Discourse let me give you the trouble to satisfie me how Carr became Clerk of the Guard under the Lord Gerard for I now perceive he had better and more safe Employments than to rake after a Livelihood in a place of so much Temptation Corruption and Hazard under so harsh a Master for to speak ingeniously we that have followed the Court have had sad experience of his Lordships passionate miscarriages and do know that no Servant did ever thrive under him nor any Transaction prosper in his own management witness the Welsh Affair the ill success whereof proved fatal to that Renowned Prince His late Majesty of blessed Memory To which I may add That dangerous and prodigiously desperate Revolt at Newark no less Enormity Cal. Pardon my interruption for I think strange you say that none of my Lords servants have enriched themselves since their Employments are of so great a Trust for I have heard say That when William Lawes a near servant of his Lordships was kill'd at Chester the Lord Gerard mist Ten thousand pounds in Jewels and Money And that one Bedell who left his Lordships service Cozened him of God knows not what and some say nor his Lordship neither Yet I find the same Bedell afterwards admitted into the Lord Ashley Cooper's service who gave him such Preferment as became a generous Master to a faithful Servant and it 's reported with like truth That Carr went away from his Lordship with Twenty thousand pounds And now I shall proceed to give you an account of Carrs Seven years Apprentiship under the Lord Gerard and the Guard Sir In that happy year of Englands Jubile 1660 Carr being at Breda was presented to His Majesty as one worthy of and fit for Employ at that time his Evil Star as he usually calls it directs him to the Lord Gerards knowledge who after two or three dayes time desires Carr to present him with the Module of Cromwel's Guard who had by him most of the Establishment of that Army which he did but the Rules did not altogether please his Lordship Yet Carr was presently employed at the Hague to List a Life-guard to be Established in England at Ten shillings per diem each Guard-man as was then reported And now Carr was proffered a more proper Employment for him under the Lord Chancellor whose counsel he hath often since wished he had followed for his Lordship was pleased to tell Carr though then but a stranger the Guards would never prove what the Lord Gerard said they would be which many an undone younger Brother hath since found by woful experience But the Lord Gerard told Carr he was a Fool to look for any other place for that of the Guard should be a profitable Imploy I presume his Lordship meant to himself as by the sequel appears for I have heard it will be proved He exacts 2000 l. a year out of the Gentlemen over and above the just Pay belonging to his Lordship which is converted into French Bees Cloaths and Kickshaws Alamode and Carr bore all the blame burden and many curses to boot Phil. I pray Sir tell me how this Money was exacted unjustly let me know the particulars Cal. The Guard consisted for three quarters of a year of 800 Gentlemen modestly counted before there was any establishment or put into Pay at the establishment the 800 were reduced to 200 and here began Carr's misery for those only were established who could and did present as Ben. Gostin who gave a Jepan Trunk and Cabinets with other things and lent the Lady Gerard 250 l. not yet paid as I am credibly informed And here it is necessary likewise that I give you a rellish of those that bought their places John Parson the Brewers Son for 100 l. was with great difficulty established William Crowder for a Diamond Ring Mr. Man for 50 l. Mr. Hill for 50 l. And Mr. Richard ●luellin for 200 l. was established a Titular Marshal by a Captain General of the Guards And likewise there was Snape the Kings Farrier who gave the sum of 80 l. to be a Titular Farrier to the Guard and poor Thomas Woodall for all his Cabinet to the Lady and his several Treats was turned out and his place sold for 250 l. to Nathaniel Hubbard but every Gentleman whether Loyal or not must pay 5 l. for his preheminency and priviledge on a bit of Parchment subscribed Charles Gerard with a large Coat of Arms to it and a good peniworth too for some paid 50 l. for the same Ticket to serve for a Protection against a Ne exeat Regnum as I. G. and Alderman Waynwright did and more decayed Citizens and others still protected against the Law though of Posthumus Priestmans grain Phil. But I pray you Sir How can the Lord Gerard answer the keeping in of such young men who never served the King but rather against Him as John Lewin who was Lockart 's man at Dunkirk and was turned away for Cozening a Serving-man of Ten shillings which was given for a Cheshire Cheese presented to Lockart as Sir Gilbert Gerard hath often told me and many others And Whitworth a Pedlar that sold Tobacco up and down the Countrey who bore Arms against his King in Sir George Booth 's business and whose father was that famous Sequestrator and seller of the Kings and His Loyal Subjects Lands in Cheshire Cal. Sir I perceive you know these particular persons and passages but the Reasons why they are continued I shall leave to his Lordships discovery who best knows those Mysteries But if you ask me Why others His Majesties Loyal Subjects were turn'd out It 's said by persons of Credit That Richard Pastow now Foot-Souldier in the Tower was turn'd out because he took a Papist Priest that had Ruined many Families Major Conquest because no Boon-grace Another because he limped with the Wounds he received in His Majesties Service And one because he could or would not wear a Perriwig And another because he could not sit a Horse being a Justee One because a Damn'd English Clown Another for not having Shoppo Cordbeck And some for being Superannueted as Sir Horatio Cary Colonel Pritty and Mr. Gilmore whom Sir Philip Howard received afterwards into his Troop to his Honour as young enough to perform Duty being recommended to him by the charitable Gallantry of the Renowned General Phil. But Sir Is it true what is hinted That the Lord Gerard should reap Profits out of the Souldiers Belts Hooses and Feathers Cal. All I can say to that Sir is That I will deliver nothing concerning the Lord Gerard upon common Fame which proves often true nor will I suffer my Judgment to be swayed by Vox Populi though reputed Vox Dei but will present you with some particulars herein As first Gladwin the Belt-maker of the New Exchange gave his Lordship 50 l. out of the Belts And Mr. Walters the Sadler gave 100 l. out of the Hooses
worst Pay-master that ever came into a Countrey which is Alamode ex Domini moribus And to give you a touch of other harsh dealings Hargrues case was very hard who for that two French men quarrelled in his House because they would not pay their Reckoning was Imprisoned and for a long time in much trouble and his House threatned to be burned and the poor Man to be thrown out of his own Window to which I shall add the too well known Sufferings of Mr. John Wright a Common-Council Man of London and of that worthy Citizen Mr. John Cade it would be over tedious to tell you all I have credibly heard of his Lordships cruelties by the particular persons unquestionable affirmation as one Avery a Coach-maker living at Charing-Cross for asking money that was due to him his Lordship gallantly broke his staff about his Head and after that drew his Sword likewise one Howard a Mercer at the Hen and Chickens sending his Partner to demand the money that was owing them by the Lord Gerard his Lordship did box and beat the poor Fellow up and down the Chamber in White-Hall a place very ill becoming such Injuries Next a Smith at St. Martins Lane end for only affronting his Lordships Foot-man and a Meal-man his Neighbour only for taking the Smiths part were both of them clapt into the Messengers custody and it cost them dearly to be released and admitted to begg his Lordships pardon And Col. Streeter for barely requesting his Lordships compassion and mediating for a Release for the two poor Citizens that were imprisoned about Grangers Bible his Lordship swore that he would cut Streeters Throat and burn Cade and Wright's Houses And were it not for the Law swearing a great Oath He would Burn the City And Dr. Gardner tells a more fearful story which he attended at the House of Commons door to relate but was not called upon Phil. Sir not to interrupt you I got cold last Night and would willingly drink a Dish of Lac't Coffee or Chocolet and so I would have you too for methinks you speak somewhat hoarse they say that either of them are good for a cold But to our present Discourse Did you hear of Carrs Testimony in the House of Commons in Fitton 's cause or can you give me any account thereof Cal. I have just cause to know that what Mr. Carr delivered before that Honourable Assembly in that Affair was truth and especially concerning the Witnesses produced by his Lordship to support Grangers testimony for him And here I must a little stir the Dunghil and discover somewhat of the whole pack of my Lords Witnesses c. Granger is so notoriously known as to save me a labour I therefore begin with Post Priestman almost as remarkable amongst the Attornies of the Common-pleas but better by the Lord Camden and Gentry about Stamford whereof he betrayed at one time 100 to Cromwell of which number about 22 were put to death thereupon Another was Holland Simpson who carried a Halbert on the Scaffold that fatal 30th of January when that horrid Tragedy was acted which I tremble to mention to add to his other perfections he was a notorious Newgate bird and to save his Craick became Thief-taker Next to him is Peter Gifford a Renegado Benedictive Monk too well acquainted at Newgate Bridewell and most of the Prisons in London who to be quit of a Prison became Priest and Thief-taker Then follows a pair of famous Gaolers Hugh Rowe and Bayley Keepers of the Gate-house both dead since they confessed their Perjury against that great Sufferer Mr. Fitton with very much reluctancy before several Neighbours and to Carr in particular and have left behind them a black memorial of their Pranks As Avery Adams and Cotton the present Keepers of Newgate can and do relate And amongst the rest Honourable Col. Ashton forsooth whose Wife was condemned for a Shop-lifter in 1664 and for company sake the Lord Gerard's near Kinsman was Executed for the same Crime and his Lordships Brothers Son was then in Graves-end Goal for venting false Coin who was therefore sent to Bombay with Sir Jervace Luvas Next one Wheeler Granger's man who had his red coat taken off that being a foot Soldier he might not appear in his proper colours and had a new Sute bought him that he might appear in his painted feather a witness of more prevalency than desert And then comes in another naked Gentleman who had a Plush coat which was borrowed purposely for him to wear upon the day of the Tryal betwixt the Lord Gerard and Mr. Fitton the better to face out his Testimony And Sir I have breifly now hinted unto you what a blessed crew and upon what virtuous ties of friendship were mustered up and combined together to Swear out of doors the Justice of the Nation and an Ancient well deserving Family out of their Right and undoubted Inheritance And although this may seem somewhat Satyrical Yet Noble Friend know that nothing but my great love to Justice and the great power of Truth exhorts me to give this relation for to my own knowledge Carr was imployed by c. to save Aston's Wife and the other c. And also to get young Gerard out of Prison in all which businesses he disbursed moneys and is yet unpaid except it be with the false Coin of hateful ingratitude for his Lordship is pleased to cast all the groundless aspersions that malice can rake up upon Carr to blacken his Reputation But the World laughs to think that his Lordship never discovered Carr whether true or false Loyal or a Rogue whilst he carryed on his Lordips Interest O this dumb and insensible god Money Phil. True Sir I have heard it reported by persons of good repute that Carr had great credit and respect amongst many worthy and wealthy Citizens and so was able to serve his Lordship Cal. I Sir but Carr almost lost that credit by being looked upon as one that had a finger in the Pie when Wright and Cade before named suffered Imprisonment and were so malitiously persecuted only for being Witnesses to the Recantation of such an horrid Perjury as Granger's was But Carr sufficiently purged himself of that supposed Crime for all men now do know clearly it was Dobson Preistman and Whitworth that prosecuted that severely and had the moneys wrested from the poor Citizens to gain their Liberty yet it cost Mr. Carr dearly for the Citizens highly resenting the injury done to their good Neighbours by Imprisonment c. it made them suddenly call in their Credits in all places where Carr owed money in one Goldsmiths Shop 9000 l. and to Carr's very great detriment it cost him at once 350 l. to borrow money at several places to pay off other Citizens Phil. But Sir Why did not Carr knowing the Lord Gerard and being so sensible of his own troublesome life under him quit himself sooner of that Imployment Cal. Sir It 's certain