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A39266 Mr. Hobbs's state of nature considered in a dialogue between Philautus and Timothy to which are added five letters / from the author of the Grounds and occasions of the contempt of the clergy. Eachard, John, 1636?-1697. 1672 (1672) Wing E57; ESTC R24940 99,899 324

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M r HOBBS'S State of Nature Considered In a Dialogue BETWEEN Philautus and Timothy To which are Added FIVE LETTERS From the AUTHOR of the GROUNDS and OCCASIONS of the CONTEMPT OF THE CLERGY London Printed by E. T. and R. H. for Nath. Brooke at the Sign of the Angel in Cornhil near the Royal Exchange 1672. To the most Reverend Father in God GILBERT by Divine Providence Lord Archbishop of CANTERBURY PRIMATE of all England and METROPOLITAN and one of His MAJESTIES most Honourable Privy Council c. May it please your Grace ALthough for several reasons I ought in duty to lay all my endeavours at your Graces feet and beg your acceptance of them yet I was the more encourag'd to make this address because the subiect seemes naturally to have recourse to your Graces Protection For the same Divine Providence that has made your Grace Father of the Church has made you also Guardian of Humane Nature Which as your Grace well knows has been so vilely aspersed and persecuted by our Adversarie's malicious suggestions that he is willing indeed to suffer such a word as man still to remain amongst us but what was alwayes meant and design'd thereby he has endeavoured to chase quite out of the world The vindication therefore of Humane Nature could not but seek for protection from that great example of humanity whose constant practice doth alone abundantly confute all the slanderers of mankind If Mr. Hobbs had been pleased to have given only a History or Roll of the unjust or unfaithfull there would not then have been such occasion to importune your Graces favouring such attempts as this But when he teaches that cheating is not only according to reason but that it is the first principle and dictate thereof for the very credit of being on reason's side people shall count themselves engaged to be Knaves And therefore I have persumed to offer to your Graces Patronage this small discourse wherein I have endeavoured to shew that those that are wicked and unrighteous are not such by Reason or any advice of Humane Nature but onely because they have a mind to be so And I am not altogether discourag'd from thinking that by this consideration of Mr. Hobbs's State of Nature and my Introduction thereunto it may appear to your Grace that it would not have been an impossible thing to have said somewhat to the rest of his writings wherein he differs from what is generally believed But for me to go about to inform your Grace of the folly or inconveniences of Mr Hobbs's principles would be next unto his undertaking to read lectures to all mankind Your Grace cannot but understand that the matters insisted on in this Dialogue have been often recommended to the protection of great Persons and by those of eminent worth and Learning and if there be any reason demanded why this comes so late from me I have nothing to offer in excuse either to your Grace or those that writ before me But yet however from some experience of your Graces favours towards me what I have performed I hope may not be altogether rejected notwithstanding the manner of it being to appearance not so grave and solid does a little dishearten me But since Mr. Hobbs by affected garbs of speech by a starch'd Mathematical method by counterfeit appearances of novelty and singularity by magisterial haughtinesse confidence and the like had cheated some people into a vast opinion of himself and into a beliefe of things very dangerous and false I did presume with your Graces pardon to think his writings so fond and extravagant as not to merit being opposed in good earnest and thereupon I was very loth to give them too much respect and add undue weight to them by a solemn and serious confutation And I hope my Dialogue will not find the less acceptance with your Grace for those Letters which follow after for although some are loth to believe the first Letters to be innocent and useful being a little troublesome and uneasie to their own humour yet your Grace I hope is satisfied that the Author of them did heartily therein study the credit and advantage of the Church and that our Clergy would certainly be better reputed and more serviceable were it possible they all could be as learned and as bountiful as your Grace What I have now perform'd I humbly submit to your Graces favourable judgement desiring that it may be accepted of as an expression of most dutyfull and gratefull observance from Your Graces in all Duty and Service most devoted I. E. Decemb. 20. 1671. THE PREFACE TO THE READER Reader THe design of this Preface is not to advise or encourage thee to read what follows for I should not take it well my self to be so drawn in but if thou chancest to look into it and be not already acquainted with Mr. Hobbs's state of nature this is to let thee know that thereby is to be understood a certain supposed time in which it was just and lawful for every man to hang draw and quarter whom he pleased when he pleased and after what manner he pleased and to get possess use and enjoy whatever he had a mind to And the reason of this so large a Charter was because it was supposed that these people had not as yet any ways abridged themselves of their utmost liberty by any voluntary bargains or agreements amongst themselves neither could they be restrained by any Humane Laws because the Magistrate was not as yet chosen In this Dialogue therefore because Mr. Hobbs shall not say that I am stingy thou wilt find Reader that with him I have allowed though there 's very small reason for 't such a time or state wherein people came into the World after his own humour without being obliged either to God Parents Friends Midwifes or Publick Magistrate and yet notwithstanding I have endeavoured to make out how far or how well that 's no matter that those that are feigned to be in this condition have all such a natural right to their own lives and what is thereunto convenient that it is perfectly unjust and unreasonable for any one of them to take his utmost advantage and to do whatever he thinks he is able or pleases him best Thou mightest possibly expect after I had given each of the four Inhabitants of the Isle of Pines a right to the fourth part which thou dost not deserve to understand unless thou readest the Book that I should have proceeded and set out every man's share and so have answered to Mr. Hobbs's sixth Article Cap. 1. de Cive Wherein he saies that a great and necessary occasion of quarrelling and war is that several men oftimes have a desire to the same thing which thing if it happens not to be capable of being divided or enjoyed in Common they must needs draw and fight for 't Instead of which he should have said if these men chance to be mad or void of reason it