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A40651 The appeal of iniured innocence, unto the religious learned and ingenuous reader in a controversie betwixt the animadvertor, Dr. Peter Heylyn, and the author, Thomas Fuller. Fuller, Thomas, 1608-1661. 1659 (1659) Wing F2410; ESTC R5599 346,355 306

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that the Doctor sayes is this that as the University of Cambridge was of a later foundation then Oxford was so it was long before it grew into esteem that is to say to such a measure of esteem at home or abroad before the building of Kings Colledge and the rest that followed but that the King might use those words in his discourse with the Bishop of Winchester And for the Narrative the Doctor whom I have talked with in this businesse doth not shame to say that he borrowed it from that great Treasury of Academical Antiquities Mr. Brian Twine whose learned Works stand good against all Opponents and that he found the passage justified by Sir Isaack Wake in his Rex Platonicus Two Persons of too great wit and judgement to relate a matter of this nature on no better ground than common Table-talk and that too spoke in merriment by Sir Henry Savil. Assuredly Sir Henry Savil was too great a Zealot for that University and too much a friend to Mr. Wake who was Fellow of the same Colledge with him to have his Table-talk and discourses of merriment to be put upon Record as grounds and arguments for such men to build on in that weighty Controversie And therefore when our Author tells us what he was told by Mr. Hubbard Mr. Hubbard by Mr. Barlow Mr. Barlow by Mr. Bust and Mr. Bust by Sir Henry Savil. It brings into my minde the like Pedegree of as true a Story even that of Mother Miso in Sir Philip Sidney telling the young Ladies an old Tale which a good old woman told her which an old wise man told her which a great learned Clerk told him and gave it him in writing and there she had it in her Prayer-book as here our Author hath found this on the end of his Creed Not much unlike to which is that which I finde in the Poet Quae Phaebo Pater omnipotens mihi Phoebus Apollo Praedix●t vobis Furiarum ego maxima pando That is so say What Iove told Phoebus Phoebus told to me And I the chief of Furies tell to thee Fuller The controversie betwixt us consists about a pretended Speech of King Henry the sixth to Bishop Wainfleet perswading him to found a Colledge at Oxford To whom the King is said to return Yea rather at Cambridge that if it be possible I may have two Universities in England A passage pregnant with an Inference which delivereth it self without any Midwifry to help it viz. that till the time of King Henry the sixth Cambridge was no or but an obs●ure University both being equally untrue The Animadvertor will have the speech grounded on good Authority whilest I more than suspect to have been the frolick of the fancie of S. Isaack Wake citing my Author for my beliefe which because removed four descents is I confesse of the lesse validity Yet is it better to take a Truth from the tenth than a Falshood from the first hand Both our Relations ultimately terminate in Sir Isaack Wake by the Animadvertor confessed the first printed Reporter thereof I confess S. I. Wake needed none but Sr. Isaack Wake to attest the truth of such thing which he had heard or seen himself In such Case his bare Name commandeth credit with Posterity But relating a passage done at distance some years before his great Grandfather was rockt in his Cradle we may and must doe that right to our own Iudgement as civily to require of him security for what he affirmeth especially seeing it is so clog'd with such palpable improbabilitie Wherefore till this Knights invisible Author be brought forth into light I shall remain the more confirmed in my former Opinion Rex Platonicus alone sounding to me in this point no more than Plato's Commonwealth I mean a meer Wit work or Brain-Being without any other real existence in Nature Dr. Heylin But to proceed Fol. 190. This was that Nevil who for Extraction Estate Alliance Dependents Wisdome Valour Success and Popularity was superiour to any English Subject since the Conquest Our Author speaks this of that Richard Nevil who was first Earl of Warwick in right of Anne his Wife Sister Heir of Henry Beauchamp the last of that Family and after Earl of Salisbury by discent from his Father a potent and popular man indeed but yet not in all or in any of those respects to be match'd with Henry of Bullenbrook son to Iohn of Gaunt whom our Author must needs grant to have lived since the time of the Conquest Which Henry after the death of his Father was Duke of Lancaster and Hereford Earl of Leicester Lincoln and Darby c. and Lord High Steward of England Possessed by the donation of King Henry the third of the County Palatine of Lancaster the forfeited Estates of Simon de Montfort Earl of Leicester Robert de Ferrars Earl of Darby and Iohn Lord of Monmouth By the compact made between Thomas Earl of Lancaster and Alice his Wife of the Honor of Pomfret the whole Estate of the Earl of Lincoln and a great part of the Estates of the Earl of Salisbury of the goodly Territories of Ogmore and Kidwelly in Wales in right of his descent from the Chaworths of the Honor and Castle of Hartford by the grant of King Edward the third and of the Honor of Tickhill in Yorkshire by the donation of King Richard the second and finally of a Moity of the vast Estate of Humphry de Bohun Earl of Hereford Essex and Northampton in right of his Wife So royal in his Extraction that he was Grandchilde unto one King Cousin-german to another Father and Grand-father to two more So popular when a private person and that too in the life of his Father that he was able to raise and head an Army against Richard the Second with which he discomfited the Kings Forces under the command of the Duke of Ireland So fortunate in his Successes that he not onely had the better in the Battail mentioned but came off with Honor and Renown in the War of Africk and finally obtained the Crown of England And this I trow renders him much Superior to our Authors Nevil whom he exceeded also in this particular that he dyed in his bed and left his Estates unto his Son But having got the Crown by the murther of his Predecessor it stai'd but two descents in his Line being unfortunately lost by King Henry the sixth of whom being taken and imprisoned by those of the Yorkish Faction our Author telleth us Fuller It never came into my thoughts to extend the Parallel beyond the line of Subjection confining it to such as moved only in that Sphere living and dying in the Station of a Subject and thus far I am sure I am ●ight that this our Nevil was not equal'd much lesse exceeded by any English-man since the Conquest As for Henry Duke of Lancaster his Coronet was afterwards turned into a Crown and I never intended comparison with one who became a
I know that as the Times stand I am to expect nothing for my pains and Travel but the displeasure of some and censure of others Fuller I will take no advantage by the Times and if without their help I cannot Bwoy up my credit let it sink for ever And I humbly desire all who have or may reap benefit by my Books not to be displeased with the Animadvertor in my behalfe It is Punishment enough that he hath written and too much for his Stationer that he hath printed so impertinent a Book When Henry Lord Hunsdon on the High-way had in Passion given a Blow to Sir Henry Colt the Lord had it returned him the Principal with Interest and when the Lord his Servants and Followers began to draw their Swords Away away said he cannot I and my Neighbour exchange a Box on the Ear but you must interest your selves in the matter Let none of my Friends and Favourers engage their anger in this difference betwixt Mee and the Animadvertor Let us alone and although we enter Adversaries in the Beginning wee shall I hope go out friends at the end of the Contest after there hath been a Pass or two betwixt our Selves Thus Heats betwixt Lawyers born at the Bar in Westminster-Hall are commonly buryed at the Board in the Inns of Court Dr. Heylyn But coming to the work with a single Heart abstracted from all self-ends and Interests I shall satisfie my Self with having done this poor Service to the Church my once blessed Mother for whose sake only I have put my Self upon this Adventure The party whom I am to deal with is so much a stranger to me that he is neither beneficio nec injuriâ notus and therefore no particular respects have mov'd me to the making of these Animadversions Which I have writ without Relation to his person for vindication of the Truth the Church and the injured Clergy as before is said So that I may affirm with an honest Conscience Non lecta est operi sed data causa meo That this imployment was not chosen by me but impos'd upon me the unresistable Intreaties of so many friends having something in them of Commands But howsoever Iacta est alea as Caesar once said when he passed over the Rubicon I must now take my fortune whatsoever it proves So God speed me well Fuller How much of this SELF-DENYING ORDINANCE is performed by him let the Reader judge in due time I am glad to hear this Passage from the Animadvertor that I never did him any Injury the rather because some of my Friends have charged me for provoking his Pen against me And though I pleaded that neither in Thought Word or Deed I ever did him any wrong I hardly prevailed with them for beliefe And now the Animadvertor hath cleared me that I never did any Injury unto him Would I could say the same of him that he never did me any Injury However as a Christian I here fully and freely forgive him and hereafter will endevour as a Scholar so to defend my self against his Injury that God willing it shall not shake my Contentment Without relation to my person let the Reader be Judge hereof Indeed Thomas hath been well used by him but Fuller hath soundly felt his displeasure However if Truth the Church and Clergy have been abused by me He hath given Me too fair quarter who deserved Death down-right for so hainous an Offence Amongst all which Persons inciting him to write against me one Letter sent to him from Regina Pecunia was most prevalent with him Witnesse this his Book offered to and refused by some Stationers because on his high terms they could not make a saving Bargain to themselves Iacta est alea. The English is you have cast the Dey And seeing the Animadvertor hath begun the Metaphor I hope I may make it an Allegory without rendring either of us Scandalous I appeal to the Reader whom I make Groom Porter termed by Mr. Camb. Aleatorum Arbiter and let him judge who plays with False who Coggs who slurrs a Dey and in a doubtful Case when we cannot agree upon the Cast betwixt our selves let him decide it By Fortune I presume the Animadvertor intendeth nothing derogatory to divine Providence in which Sense St. Augustin retracteth his former frequent using of the Word Only he meaneth uncertainty of Successe In which notion I say an hearty Amen to his Prayer when I have enlarged his God speed me into God speed US well May he who manageth this Controversie with most Sincerity come off with best Successe AMEN Errata confessed by the Printer of Dr. Heylyns Animadversions PAge 10. line 17. for Helkinus r. Telkinus p. 20. l. 21. for Queen of r. Queen of England p. 27. l. 6. for Wooderpoir r. Woodensdike p. 42. l. 1. for inconsideratenesse r. the inconsideratenesse of Children p. 121. l. f28 for ter r. better p. 145. l. 2. for statuendo● statuendi p. 15 l. 22. Horcon●nar r. cantuur p. 154. l. 17. for Dr. Hammond r. Dr. Boke p. 160. l. 1. for his r. this p. 163. l. 28. for Jesuites r. Franciscans p. 189. l. ult 2 or contemn r. confession p. 221. in the Marg. for whether r. with other p. 228. l. 2. for Den r. Dean p. 239. l. 9. for Commons r. Canons p. 271. l. ult for culis r. ocul●s Fuller THis is a Catalogue of Prelal Mis●akes committed and confessed in the Doctor 's Book of Animadversions and here by me inserted not to disparage the pains of c●re of the Printer but on these Considerations First to prevent all Exceptions that I have defectively presented in his Book Secondly to show that sometimes as here there may be an Erratum Erratorum to be re-reformed It thus beginneth Page 10. l. 17. for Melkinus r. Tolkinus That is read that which is wrong instead of tha● which was right before For a M●lkinus Avalonius appeareth in Bale Pits and others but a Telkinus was never in Nature But Take notice also of this confessed Mistake p. 163. l. 28. for Iesuits r. Franciscans There is here no temptation to the Press to Erre there being betwixt the two Words no literal Similitude or Orthographical Symbolizing scarce a letter in the one which is in the other I make no other use hereof save only to crave the like Favour in my own Defence when in the Earls of March Roger is misprinted Edward and in the Earls of Bath Henry is misprinted William in my Church History I confess there be some Press faults in this my Book as for Prelial wherever occurring read Prelal part 1. p. 50. l. 32. for Anno Dom. 580 r. 560. part 1. p. 52. l. 18. for DEMOL r. DEINOL and part 2. page 88. betwixt the 33. and 34 l. insert I pray Papists Non-conformists and covetous Conformists the Acts therein appearing like For the rest I hope they are nothing so many or great as to discompose the sense and therefore I confide in
was made Knight of the Bath at the Coronation of King Iames Anno 1603. and afterwards created Lord Montague of Boughton in the nineteenth year of that King Anno 1621. which honourable Title is now enjoyed by his Son another Edward Anno 1658. And thirdly though I grant that Dr. Iames Montague Bishop of Winchester the second Brother of the four was of great power and favour in the time of King Iames. Thus far Dr. Heylin out of his Advertisements written in correction of Mr. Sandersons History of the Reign of King Iames. To rectifie this heap of Errors not to be paralleled in any Author pretending to the emendation of another I have here plainly set down the Male-pedegree of this Noble Numerous and successfull Family 1 Sir Edward Montague Lord Chief Justice in the Reign of King Henry the eighth 2 Sir Edward Montague a worthy Patriot in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth Sir Walter Montague Knight second Son died without Issue Sir Henry Montague third Son Earl of Manchester Lord Chief Justice Lord Treasurer c. Edw. Montague now Earl of Manchester besides other Sons 3 Sir Edward Montague made Knight of the Bath at the Coronation of King Iames never a Martialist and created by Him Baron Montague of Boughton dying in the beginning of the Civill Warres William Mountague Esq of the Middle-Temple second Son 4 Edward now Lord Montague of Boughton Ralfe Montague Esq second Son Edward Montague Esq eldest Son Christopher Montague third Son died before his Father being a most hopefull Gentleman Sir Charles Montague fourth Son who did good service in Ireland and left three Daughters and Co-heirs Iames Montague fifth Son Bishop of Winchester died unmarried Sir Sidney Montague sixth Son Master of the Requests Edward Montague now Admirall and one of the Lords of the Councel I presume the Animadvertor will allow me exact in this Family which hath reflected so fauourably upon me that I desire and indeed deserve to live no longer than whilest I acknowledg the same THE FOURTH BOOK From the first preaching of Wickliffe to the beginning of the Reign of King Henry the eighth Dr. Heylin OUR Author begins this Book with the Story of Wickliffe and continueth it in relating the successes of him and his followers to which he seems so much addicted as to Christen their Opinions by the name of the Gospel For speaking of such incouragements and helps as were given to Wickliffe by the Duke of Lancaster with other advantages which the conditions of those times did afford unto him he addeth That Fol. 129. We must attribute the main to Divine Providence blessing the Gospel A name too high to be bestowed upon the Fancies of a private man many of whose Opinions were so far from truth so contrary to peace and civil Order so inconsistent with the Government of the Church of Christ as make them utterly unworthy to be look'd on as a part of the Gospel Or if the Doctrines of Wickliffe must be call'd the Gospel what shall become of the Religion then establisht in the Realm of England and in most other parts of the Western World Were all but Wickliffes Followers relaps'd to Heathenism were they turn'd Jews or had imbrac'd the Law of Mahomet If none of these and that they still continued in the faith of Christ delivered to them in the Gospels of the four Evangelists and other Apostolicall Writers Wickliffes new Doctrines could not challenge the name of Gospel no● ought it to be given to him by the Pen of any But such is the humor of some men as to call every separation from the Church of Rome by the name of Gospel the greater the separation is the more pure the Gospel No name but that of Evangelici would content the Germans when they first separated from that Church and reformed their own And Harry Nichols when he separated from the German Churches and became the Father of Familists bestows the name of Evangelium Regni on his Dreams and Dotages Gospels of this kinde we have had and may have too many quot Capita t●t Fides as many Gospels in a manner as Sects and Sectaries if this world goe on Now as Wickliffes Doctrines are advanc'd to the name of Gospel so his Followers whatsoever they were must be called Gods servants the Bishops being said fol. 151. to be busie in persecuting Gods servants and for what crime soever they were brought to punishment it must be thought they suffered onely for the Gospel and the service of God A pregnant evidence whereof we have in the story of Sir Iohn Oldcastle accused in the time of King Harry the fifth for a design to kill the King and his Brethren actually in Arms against that King in the head of 20000 men attainted for the same in open Parliament and condemn'd to die and executed in St. Giles his Fields accordingly as both Sir Roger Acton his principal Counsellor and 37 of his Accomplices had been before For this we have not onely the Authority of our common Chronicles Walsingham Stow and many others but the Records of the Tower and Acts of Parliament as is confessed by our Author fol. 168. Yet coming out of Wickliffes Schools and the chief Scholar questionlesse which was train'd up in them he must be Registred for a Martyr in Fox his Calendar And though our Author dares not quit him as he sayes himself yet such is his tendernesse and respect to Wickliffes Gospel that he is loath to load his Memory with causlesse Crimes fol. 167. taxeth the Clergie of that time for their hatred to him discrediteth the relation of T. Walsingham and all later Authors who are affirm'd to follow him as the Flock their Belweather and finally leaves it as a special verdict to the last day of the Revelation of the righteous Iudgements of God Fuller First I fain would know whether the Animadvertor would be contented with the Condition of the Church of England as Wickliffe found it for Opinions and Practise and doth not earnestly desire a Reformation thereof I am charitably confident that He doth desire such an Emendation and therefore being both of us agreed in this Point of the convenience yea necessity thereof in the second place I would as fain be satisfied from the Animadvertor whether He conceived it possible that such Reformation could be advanced without Miracle all on a sodain so that many grosse Errors would not continue and some new one be superadded The man in the Gospel first saw men walking as trees before he saw perfectly Nature hath appointed the Twilight as a Bridge to passe us out of Night into Day Such false and wild opinions like the Scales which fell down from the Eyes of St. Paul when perfectly restored to his sight have either vanished or been banished out of all Protestant Confession Far be it from me to account the rest of England relapsed into Atheism or lapsed in Iudaism Turcism c. whom I behold as Erronious Christians
of parchment out of his bosome and gave it to the Lord Keeper Williams who read it to the Commons four severall times East West North and South fol. 123. Thirdly the Lord Keeper who read that Scrole was not the Lord Keeper VVilliams but the Lord Keeper Coventry the Seal being taken from the Bishop of Lincoln and committed to the custody of Sir Thomas Coventry in October before And therefore fourthly our Author is much out in placing both the Coronation and the following Parliament before the change of the Lord Keeper and sending Sir Iohn Suckling to fetch that Seal at the end of a Parliament in the Spring which he had brought away with him before Michaelmas Term. But as our Author was willing to keep the Bishop of Lincoln in the Deanry of Westminster for no less then five or six years after it was confer'd on another so is he as desirous to continue him Lord Keeper for as many months after the Seal had been entrusted to another hand Fuller This also is an errour I neither can nor will defend the Lord Keeper Williams put for the Lord Keeper Coventry which hath betrayed me to some consequentiall incongruities I will not plead for my self in such a Suit where I foresee the Verdict will go against me Onely I move as to mitigation of Costs and Dammages that greater slips have fallen from the Pens of good Historians Mr. Speed in his Chronicle first Edition page 786. speaking of Henry eldest son to King Henry the eighth maketh Arch-Bishop Cranmer mistaken for Warham his God-father twenty four years before Cranmer ever sat in that See I write not this to accuse him but in part to excuse my self by paralleling mine with as evident a mistake I hope my free confession of my fault with promise of emendation of It and the Appendants thereof in my next Edition will meet with the Reader 's absolution And let the Animadvertor for the present if so pleased make merry and feast himself on my mistake assuring him that he is likely to fast a long time hereafter Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds f. 122. The Earl of Arundel as Earl Marshal of England the Duke of Buckingham as Lord high Constable of England for that day went before his Majesty in that great Solemnity In this passage and the next that follows our Author shewes himself as bad an Herald in marshalling a Royal Show as in stating the true time of the creation of a noble Peer Here in this place he placeth the Earl Marshall before the Constable whereas by the Statute 31 H. 8. c. 10. the Constable is to have precedency before the Marshall Nor want there precedents to shew that the Lord High Constable did many times direct his Mandats to the Earl Marshall as one of the Ministers of his Court willing and requiring him to perform such and such services as in the said Precepts were expressed Fuller My Heraldry is right both in Place and Time The Earl of Arundel as Earl Marshall went after the Duke of Buckingham as Lord High Constable though going before him For Barons went in this Royall Procession at the Kings Coronation before Bishops Bishops before Viscounts Viscounts before Earls the meaner before the greater Officers of State Thus the Lord Constable though the last was the first because of all Subjects nearest to the person of the Soveraign It seemeth the dayes were very long when the Animadvertor wrote these causless cavills which being now grown very short I cannot afford so much time in confuting them This his cavilling mindeth me of what he hath mistaken in his Geography For the younger son of an English Earl comming to Geneva desired a Carp for his dinner having read in the Doctor 's Geography that the Lemman Lake had plenty of the Fish and the best and biggest of that kind The people wondred at his desire of such a dainty which that place did not afford but told him That they had Trouts as good and great as any in Europe Indeed learned Gesner doth observe that the Trouts caught in this Lake sent to and sold at Lions are mistaken for Salmons by strangers unacquainted with their proportions It seems the Animadvertor's Pen is so much given to cavilling that he turned Trouts into Carps though none of them so great as this his CARP at me for making the Lord Marshall to go before the Lord Constable at the King's Coronation Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds Ibid. That the Kings Train being six yards long of Purple V●lvet was held up by the Lord Compton and the Lord Viscount Dorcester That the Lord Compton was one of them which held up the Kings Train I shall easily grant he being then Master of the Robes and thereby challenging a right to perform this service But that the Lord Viscount Dorcester was the other of them I shall never grant there being no such Viscount at the time of the Coronation I cannot say but that Sir Dudley Carlton might be one of those which held up the Train though I am not sure of it But sure I am that Sir Dudley Carlton was not made Baron of Imber-court till towards the latter end of the following Parliament of Anno 1606. nor created Viscount Dorcester untill some years after Fuller It is a meer mistake of the Printer for Viscount Doncaster son of and now himself the Earl of Carlile whose Father having a great Office in the Wardrobe this place was proper for him to perform All will presume me knowing enough in the Orthography of his Title who was my Patron when I wrote the Book and whom I shall ever whilst I live deservedly honour for his great bounty unto me Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds fol. 122. The Lord Arch-bishop did present his Majesty to the Lords and Commons East West North South asking their minds four severall times if they did consent to the Coronation of King Charls their lawfull Soveraign This is a piece of new State-doctrine never known before that the Coronation of the King and consequently his Succession to the Crown of England should depend on the consent of the Lords and Commons who were then assembled the Coronation not proceeding as he after telleth us till their consent was given four times by Acclamations Fuller I exactly follow the Language of my worthy Intelligencer a Doctor of Divinity still alive rich in Learning and Piety present on the place and an exact observer of all passages and see no reason to depart to depart from it I am so far from making the Coronation of the Soveraign depend on the consent of his Subjects that I make not the Kingly power depend on his Coronation who before it and without it is lawfull and effectuall King to all purposes and intents This was not a consent like that of the Bride to the Bride-groom the want whereof doth null the Marriage but a meer ceremoniall one in majorem Pompam which did not make but manifest not constitute but
and Author's Joynt-desires might have taken Effect there had been no difference about this passage in my Book Tuque domo proprià nos Te Praesul Poteremur Thou hadst enjoy'd thy house and we Prelate had enjoyed Thee But alas it is so He is still and still when all other Bishops are released detained in the Tower where I believe he maketh Gods Service his perfect freedom My words as relating to the time when I wrote them containe too much sorrowfull truth therein Dr. Heylyn Fourthly Archbishop Williams after his restoring unto liberty ●ent not into the Kings Quarters as our Author saith but unto one of his own houses in Yorkshire where he continued till the year 1643. and then came to Oxford not that he found the North too cold for him or the War too hot but to solicit for ren●wing of his Commendam in the Deanry of Westminster the time for which he was to hold it drawing towards an end Fuller Nothing false or faulty The Arch-bishop of York stayed some weeks after his enlargement at Westminster thence he went privately to the house of Sir Thomas Hedley in Huntingon shire and thence to his Palace at Ca●ood nigh York where he gave the King a magnificent Intertainment King James setled the Deanry of Westminster under the great Seal on Dr. Williams so long as he should continue Bishop of Lincoln Hinc illa Lacrimae hence the great heaving and hussing at Him because He would not resigne it which was so signal a Monument of his Master's favour unto him Being Arch-bishop of York King Charls confirmed his Deanry unto him for three years in lieu of the profits of his Arch-bishoprick which the King had taken Sede vacante So that it is probable enough the renuing that Tearm might be a Joynt-Motive of his going to Oxford But I see nothing which I have written can be cavilled at except because I call Yorkshire the King's Quarters which as yet was the Kings WHOLE when the Arch-bishop first came thither as being a little before the War began though few Weeks after it became the King's Quarters Such a Prolepsis is familiar with the best Historians and in effect is little more then when the Animadvertor calleth the Gag and Appello Caesarem the Books of Bishop Montague who when they were written by him was no though soon after a Bishop Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds fol. 196. Some of the aged Bishops had their tongues so used to the language of a third Estate that more then once they ran on that reputed Rock in their speeches for which they were publickly shent and enjoyned an acknowledgment of their mistake By whom they were so publickly shent and who they were that so ingenuously acknowledged their mistake as my Author telleth us not so neither can I say whether it be true or false Fuller I tell you again It is true The Earl of Essex and the Lord Say were two of the Lords though this be more then I need discover who checked them And of two of those Bishops Dr. Hall late Bishop of Norwich is gone to God and the other is still alive Dr. Heylyn But I must needs say that there was small ingenuity in acknowledging a mistake in that wherein they had not been mistaken or by endeavouring to avoid a reputed Rock to run themselves on a certain Rock even the Rock of Scandall Fuller Their brief and generall acknowledgment that they vvere sorry that they had spoken in this point vvhat had incurred the displeasure of the Temporall Lords was no trespass on their own ingenuity nor had shadovv of scandall to others therein I confess men must not bear fals-witness either against themselves or others nor may they betray their right especially when they have not onely a personall concernment therein but also are in some sort Feoffees in trust for Posterity However vvhen a predominant Power plainly appears which will certainly over-rule their cause against them without scandall they may not to say in Christian prudence they ought to wave the vindication of their priviledges for the present waiting wishing and praying for more moderate and equall times wherein they may assert their right with more advantage to their cause and less danger to their persons Dr. Heylyn For that the English Bishops had their vote in Parliament as a third Estate and not in the capacity of temporal Barons will evidently appear by these reasons following For first the Clergy in all other Christian Kingdoms of these Northwest parts make the third Estate that is to say in the German Empire as appears by Thuanus the Historian lib. 2. In France as is affirmed by Paulus Aemilius lib. 9. In Spain as testifieth Bodinus in his De Repub. lib. 3. For which consult also to the Generall History of Spain as in point of practise lib. 9 10 11 14. In Hungary as witnesseth Bonfinius Dec. 2. l. 1. In Poland as is verified by Thunus also lib. 56. In Denmark as Pontanus telleth us in Historia rerum Danicarum l. 7. The Swedes observing antiently the same form and order of Government as was us'd by the Danes The like we find in Camden for the Realm of Scotland in which antiently the Lords Spirituall viz. Bishops Abbots Priors made the third Estate And certainly it were very strange if the Bishops and other Prelates in the Realm of England being a great and powerfull body should move in a lower Sphere in England then they do elsewhere But secondly not to stand onely upon probable inferences we find first in the History of Titus Livius touching the Reign and Acts of King Henry the fifth that when his Funerals were ended the three Estates of the Realm of England did assemble toge●her and declared his Son King Henry the sixth being an Infant of eight months old to be their Soveraign Lord as his Heir and Successor And if the Lords Spirituall did not then make the third Estate I would know who did Secondly the Petition tendred to Richard Duke of Glocester to accept the Crown occurring in the Parliament Rolls runs in the name of the three Estates of the Realm that is to say The Lords Spirituall and Temporall and the Commons thereof Thirdly in the first Parliament of the said Richard lately Crowned King it is said expresly that at the request and by the consent of the three Estates of this Realm that is to say the Lords Spirituall and Temporall and Commons of this Land assembled in this present Parliament and by Authority of the same it be pronounced decreed and declared That our said Soveraign Lord the King was and is the very and undoubted King of this Realm of England c. Fourthly it is acknowledged so in the Statute of 1 Eliz. cap. 3. where the Lords Spirituall and Temporall and the Commons in that Parliament assembled being said expresly and in terminis to represent the three Estates of this Realm of England did recognize the Queens Majesty to be their true
Monarchy p. 39. ¶ 6. dies unfortunate in his Family p. 40. ¶ 7. King HENRY the third under Tutours and Governers b. 3. p. 54. ¶ 24. by what he so quickly recovered his Kingdome ¶ 25. forbiddeth an appeal to the Pope for the triall of Bastardy b. 3. p. 58 59. troubled a long time with the animosityes of his Subjects p. 66. ¶ 33 c. reformeth his faults ¶ 38. his quiet death p. 73. ¶ 1 2. King HENRY the fourth gaineth the Crown by deposing King Richard b. 4. p. 152. ¶ 52 53. bloudy against poor Innocents p. 155. ¶ 1. subjecteth Oxford notwithstanding many Papal exemptions thereof to the visitation of the Arch-bish of Cant. p. 164 165. his death p. 166. ¶ 28. King HENRY the fifth whilest Prince engaged himself in a bitter Petition with the Bishops against the poor Lollards b. 4. p. 162 163. when king the prelates afraid of him p. 166. ¶ 31. divert his activity on the French ¶ 32. his death King HENRY the sixth his piety b. 4. ¶ 1. foundeth Eaton Colledge p. 183. looseth all in France p. 184. ¶ 15 16. foundeth Kings Coll. in Camb. Hist. of C. p. 73 conquered by K. Edward the 4. p. 190. ¶ 26. returneth out of Scotl. fighteth and is routed ¶ 29. afterward enlarged out of prison and made King p. 191. ¶ 31. re●mprisoned and murdered p. 3. worketh many miracles after his death p. 154. ¶ 25. yet could be made a Saint by the Pope and why ¶ 27. King HENRY the seventh his sixfold title to the Crown b. 4. p. 194. ¶ 15. his extraction p. 200. ¶ 18. retrencheth the exorbitances of sanctuaries ¶ 19. endeavoureth in vain to get King Henry the sixth Sainted p. 153. ¶ 23. and converteth a lollard and then burneth him p. 155. ¶ 31. foundeth the Savoy b. 5. p. 165. ¶ 4. his death ibidem King HENRY the eighth marrieth the relict of his Brother Arthur b. 5. p. 165. ¶ 6. writes against Luther p. 168. ¶ 21. therefore stiled Defender of the Faith ¶ 22. embraceth the Motion to be divorced p. 171. ¶ 38. troubles before it could be effected p. 172. c. owned supream Head of the Church p. 187. 48. justified in abolishing the Papal power in England p. 194 and 195. his large Will from p. 243. to 253. observations thereon p. 252 253. his disease and death p. 254. ¶ 61. vices and vertues 64. imperfect Monuments 65. Prince HENRY his death and excellent Epitaph b. 10. p. 67. ¶ 22. HERBERT the simoniacal Bishop of Norwich b. 3. p. 11. ¶ 33. Charles HERLE prolocutour in the Assembly b. 11. p. 213. ¶ 53. HILDA the worthy Abbesse C. 7. ¶ 90 93. a Miracle imputed unto her ¶ 94. Arthur HILDERSHAM his remarkable life and death b. 11. p. 142. ¶ 22 c. John HILTON Priest solemnly abjureth his blasphemous heresies before Arch-bishop Whitgift in the Convocation b. 9. p. 175. ¶ 27. Robert HOLCOT a great School-man his sudden death C. 14. p. 98. ¶ 21. John HOLYMAN Bishop of Bristol no persecutour in the Reign of Q. Mary b. 8. S. 2. ¶ 4. HOMILIES of two sorts b. 9. p. 74. ¶ 60. their use ¶ 62. authenticalnesse unjustly questioned ¶ 63. Rich. HOOKER his character b. 9. p. 214. ¶ 15. and p. 216. ¶ 53. clasheth with Mr. Travers about a point of Doct. and overpowreth him ¶ 55 56 c. commended by his Adversaries for his holinesse p. 217. ¶ 59. his death p. 235. ¶ 40. John HOOPER Bishop of Glocester the first founder of non-conformity in England b. 7. p. 42 43 44. c. much opposed by Bp. Ridley ibid. till fire and fagots made them friends p. 405. ¶ 29. Robert HORNE chosen Reader of Hebrew to the English Exiles at Frankford b. 8. p. 31. ¶ 6. His contest with M. Ashley ¶ 11 12 13. stickleth there for the Old discipline ¶ 14 c. chose a Disputant in the conference at Westminster b. 9. ¶ 10. consecrated Bishop of Winchester ¶ 31. his Sute against Bonner p. 77. ¶ 1 2 c. superseded by a provisoe in Parliament ¶ 7. his death p. 111. ¶ 32. Ancient HOSTLES in Cambridge before any Colledges therein were built or endowed Hist. of Camb. p. 26 27. though fewer greater then those in Oxford p. 27. ¶ 21 22. Richard HUN martyr barbarously murthered b. 5. p. 166. ¶ 9. Mathew HUTTON Arch-bishop of Yorke by his letter concurreth with Lambeth Articles b. 9. pag. 230. his death b. 10. p. 38. ¶ 42. and meniorie rectified from a foule mistake ¶ 43. I. St. JAMES how mistaken to have preached in Britain Cent. 1. ¶ 8. KING JAMES b. 9. p. 5. ¶ 13. his speech at Hampton Court p. 8. and discreet carriage therein p. 9.10 c. writeth against the Pope p. 45. ¶ 58 against Vorstius p. 27. ¶ 5. his discourse with the legate ¶ 7. happy in discovery of Impostors p. 73. ¶ 56.57 his Sicknesse p. 113. ¶ 21. increased with a plaister ¶ 23. his faith and Charity at his death ¶ 25. his peaceableness Eloquence piercing wit Judgement bounty and Mercy p. 114. ¶ 27.28 c. His funerall Sermon preached by Bp. Williams b. 11. pag. 117. ¶ 3. Doctor JAMES his good motion in the convocation at Oxford b. 11. 12. Queen JANE SEYMOUR marryed to King Henry the eighth b. 5. p. 208. ¶ 25. her letter on her delivery to the Lords of the Councell b. 6. p. 421. ¶ 11. her death p. 422. ibidem JESUATES how differing from JESUITES b. 6. p. 278. ¶ 45. JESUITES their beginning just when other orders in England were dissolved b. 6. p. 278. ¶ 43. best Butteresses in the Romish Church p. 279. ¶ 56. their policie ¶ 57. how in Engl. like the Astrologers in Rome ¶ 58. their bitter contentions with Secular Priests b. 9. p. 225 226. JESUITESSES a Viraginous Order I think extinct b. 6. p. 364. JESUS COLL. IN CAMBRIDGE founded by Bp. Alcock Hist. Camb. p. 84. ¶ 42 c. called the Bp. of Ely'es house p. 84. ¶ 46. The Masters Benefactors Bishops c. thereof p. 86. JESUS COLL. IN OXFORD founded by Hugh Price b. 9. p. 96. ¶ 28. the Principalls Bps. Benefactors c. thereof ibidem IMPROPRIATIONS endeavoured to be bought in by Feoffees b. 11. p. 136. ¶ 5 6. crushed by Archbishop Laud p. 143. ¶ 26. c. those in Ireland restored to the Clergie by the bounty of King Charles b. 11. p. 149. ¶ 45. INNES of Bishops or their severall Lodging-houses in London b. 3. p. 63. INNOVATIONS in doctrine and discipline complained of b. 11. p. 174 175. JOHN JEWELL draweth up the Gratulatory letter of Oxford to Queen Mary b. 8. ¶ 6. driven out of Corpus Christi Colledge ¶ 11. his great fall ¶ 15. seasonable and sincere recovery ¶ 17. Vice-Master of P. Martyrs Colledge at Strasbourg Sect. 3. ¶ 24. one of the disputants against the Papists at Westminster b. 9. ¶ 10. his reasons against the
as Authors generally agree King Edward instituted the Order of the Garter Right enough as unto the time but much mistaken in some things which relate unto that ancient and most noble Order our Author taking up his Commodities at the second hand neither consulting the Records nor dealing in this businesse with men of credit Fuller I am now come under the Roof of the Animadvertor who by the Laws of Hospitality is bound to treat me the more courteously I mean I am entred into a Subject wherein he is well seen and therefore might favourably connive at my small slips being therein best studied It is severely said that in this businesse I dealt with no men of credit The highest person next the Son of the King wearing a blew Ribbon was pleased so far to favour me as that from his own mouth I wrote the last sheet of my History his Grace endeavouring to be very exact in all particulars Dr. Heylin For first there are not fourteen Canons resident in the Church of Windsor but thirteen onely with the Dean it being King Edwards purpose when he founded that Order consisting of twenty six Knights himself being one to institute as many greater and lesser Canons and as many old Soldiers commonly called poor Knights to be pensioned there Though in this last the number was not made up to his first intention Fuller The mistake such an one as it is shall be amended in my next Edition Dr. Heylin He tells us secondly that if he be not mistaken as indeed he is Sir Thomas Row was the last Chanoellor of the Order Whereas Sir Iames Palmer one of the Gentlemen Huishers of the Privy Chamber succeeded him in the place of Chancellor after his decease Anno 1644. Fuller The Animadvertor is very discourteous to deny me the benefit of the Parenthesis If I be not mistaken The best Authors have their Ni fallor Si quid video Si bene intelligo and the like These are Grains allowed to all Pieces currant in payment Sir Thomas Roe was the last Chancellor who effectually officiated in his place Winsor before the year 1644. being a chief Garrison of the Parliament Tully calls a Consul chosen in the morning and put out before night a Vigilant Consul who never slept in all his Co●sulship But on another occasion one may say of Sir Iames Palmer otherwise a worthy Gentleman well deserving that and a better place that He was a very watchfull Chancellor who never slept in Winsor whilst invested in his Office Dr. Heylin He tels us thirdly That there belongs unto it one Register being alwayes the Dean of Winsor which is nothing so For though the Deans of late times have been Registers also yet ab initio non fuit sic it was not so from the beginning The first Dean was also Register being Iohn Boxul Anno 1557. Before which time beginning at the year 1414. there had been nine Registers which were not Deans but how many more before that time I am not able to say their names not being on Record Fuller I say not that the Register alwaies Was the Dean but being alwaies the Dean which relating to our and our fathers memories is right enough but it shall be reformed Dr. Heylin And fourthly he tels us That the Garter is one of the extraordinary Habiliments of the Knights of this Order their ordinary being onely the blew Ribbon about their necks with the Picture of St. George appendant and the Sun in his glory on the left shoulder of their Cloak whereas indeed the Garter is of common wearing and of such necessary use that the Knights are not to be seen abroad without it upon pain of paying two Crowns to any Officer of the Order who shall first claim it unlesse they be to take a journey in which case it is sufficient to wear a blew Ribbon under their Boots to denote the Garter Lastly whereas our Author tells us that the Knights hereof doe weare on the left shoulder of their Cloaks a Sun in his glory and attributes this wearing as some say to King Charles I will first put him out of doubt that this addition was King Charles his then shew him his mistake in the matter it self And first in the first year of that King Apr. 26. 1626. it was thus enacted at a publick Chapter of the Order viz. That all Knights and Companions of the Order shall wear upon the left part of their Cloaks Coats and riding Cassocks at all times when they shall not wear their Roabs and in all places of Assembly an Escocheon of the Armes of St. George id est a Crosse within a Garter not enriched with Pearls or Stones in token of the honour which they hold from the said most noble Order instituted and ordained for persons of the highest worth and honour Our Author secondly may perceive by this Act of the Kings that St. Georges Crosse within the Garter is the main device injoyned to be worn by all the Knights of that noble Order to which the adding of the Sun in his glory served but for ornament and imbellishing and might be either used or not used but onely for conformities sake as they would themselves Fuller This Sun in Glory affords me small light so that I can see but very little if any thing at all which I have to alter Dr. Heylin So many Errors in so few lines one shall hardly meet with Fuller Yea with more in fewer lines even in the Animadvertor himself in laying down the Root and Branches of the noble family of the Montagues Mistakes the more remarkable because done in correction of Mr. Sanderson and making more faults that He mendeth Or rather all is but one mistake resulting from a continued complication of omissions confusions and transpositions Advertisements on the History of the Reign of King Iames pag. 21 22. Fol. 490. Sir Edward Montague had three sonnes Edward the eldest Knight of the Bath c. The Author here is much mistaken in the House of the Montagues For first that Edward Montague who was Knight of the Bath c. was not Brother to Iames Bishop of Winchester and Henry Earl of Manchester but their Brothers Son that is to say the Son of another Edward their eldest Brother Secondly besides that Edward Iames and Henry there was another Brother whom the Author names not though he could not chuse but know the man viz. Sir Sidney Montague one of the Masters of the Requests to the late King Charles Therefore to set this matter right I am to let both him and his Readers know that Sir Edward Montague chief Justice in the time of King Edward the sixth was father of another Edward who lived peaceably and nobly in his own Country To whom succeeded a third Edward who sought for honour in the Wars and gained the reputation of a good Commander the elder Brother of Iames Henry and Sidney before mentioned and the father of a fourth Edward who