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A05142 The seconde [seventh] sermon of Maister Hughe Latimer which he preached before the Kynges Maiestie [with?]in his graces palayce at Westminster, ye xv. day of Marche [-xix daye of Apryll], M.ccccc.xlix. Latimer, Hugh, 1485?-1555. 1549 (1549) STC 15274.7; ESTC S122869 128,935 442

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God sayeth it poluteth the whole realme ▪ Polluitur illa terra et ●●non potest expiari sine sanguine The lande can not be purged nor clensed agayne tyll hys bloude be shed that shed it It is the office of a king to se suche murders punished with death Non frustra gesta gladiū What wyl ye make of a kinge He beareth a swerd before hym not a Pecokes fether I go not about to styrrc you nowe to crudelitye but I spake agaynste bearynge of bloudshed Thys bearynge must be loked vpon In certayne causes of murther such great circumstaunces may be that the kynge maye pardon a murtherer But if I were worthye to be of counsaylle or if I were asked myne aduice I wolde not haue the kynge to pardō a voluntary murtherer a prepēsed murther I can tell where one man slew an other in a tounshyp was attached vpō the same .xii. men were impaneled the man hadde frendes the Shirife laboured the bench the .xii. men stacke at it and sayed excepte he woulde disburse .xii. crownes they woulde fynd him gyltie Meanes were found that the xii crownes was payed The quest commes in and sayes not giltye Here was a not gyltye for xii crownes Thys is bearing And some of the bench were hanged thei were wel serued Thys makes men bolde to do murder and slaughter We shoulde reserue murderynge tyll we come to our ennemyes and whyle the Kynge bydde vs fight He that wolde be stur hym than were a pretie felow in dede Crowenes If theyr crownes were shauen to the shoulders they were serued well inoughe I knewe where a womanne was gotwyth chylde and was a shamed at the matter and wente into a secreate place where she hadde no women at her trauail and was deliuered of thre chyldren at a byrthe She wrounge theyr neckes and caste theym into a water and so kylde her chyldren Sodaynelye she was gaunte agayne and her neyghboures suspectynge the matter caused her to be examened she graunted all Afterwarde she was rayned at the barre for it and dyspatched and founde not giltye throughe bearynge of friendes and brybynge of the iudge Where at the same sessions another poore womanne was hanged for stealing a fewe ragges of a hedge that were not worthe a crowne There was a certayne gentle man a professour of the word of God he spedde neuer the better for that ye maye besure whoo was accused for murtheryng of a manne where vppon he was cast into prison And by chaūce as he was in pryson one of hys friendes came vnto hym for to visite hym and he declared to hys friende that he was neuer gylty in the murtheryng of the man So he wente hys wayes the gentle man was arayned condempned and as he wente to hys execusion he sawe hys frendes seruaunte and sayd vnto hym Commende me to thy master and I praye the tel him I am the same man styl I was when he was wyth me And if thou tary a whyle thou shalt se me dye There was sute made for thys mannes pardon but it coulde not be gotten Bilike the Shiriues or some other bare hym no good wyll But he dyed for it And afterwarde I beyng in the Tower hauynge leaue to come to the Lieuetenauntes table I hearde hym saye that ther was a man hanged afterwarde that kylled the same manne for whom this Gentyll man was put to death O Lord what bearyng what bolsteryng of naughtye matters is thys in a Chrystian realme I desyre youre Maiestye to remedye the matter and God graūt you to se a redres in thys realme in your owne person Althoughe my Lord Protector I doubt not and the reste of the counsayle do in the meane whyle all that lyeth in theym to redresse thinges I woulde such as be rulers noble men maisters should be at this poynt w t their seruauntes to certify them on thys sort If anye man go about to do you wrong I wyl do my best to helpe you in your right But if thou breke the lawe thou shalte haue iustice If ye wyll be manquellers murderers transgressoures loke for no bearynge at my handes A straunge thynge What nede wee in the vengaunce to burden oure selues wyth other mēnes synnes Haue we not synnes inowe of oure owne what neade haue I to burden my selfe wyth other mennes synnes I haue burdens and .ii. heapes of synnes One hepe of knowen sinnes an other of vnknowen synnes I hade nede to say Aboccultis meis mūdame domine O Lorde deliuer me frō my hidden and my vnknowē synnes Then if I beare wyth other mennes synnes I muste saye Delyuer me frome my other mennes sinnes A straunge sayinge frome my other mens synnes Who beareth wyth other folkes offences he communycateth wyth other folkes synnes Men haue sinnes inoughe of theyr owne althoughe they beare not and bolster vp other men in theyr naughtynes thys bearinge thys bolsteryng lokyng thorowe their fingers is naught What the fayre happe should I or anye else encrease my burden Myne other mens synnes for gyue me o Lord. A straūge language they haue hid sinnes of their own inough althoughe they beare not wyth gyltines of other mens synnes Oh father Samuell would not beare hys owne sonnes He offered hys owne sonnes to punyshment And saied Ecce filli mei vobiscum sunt Euen at the fyrste tyme he sayed Lo here they be I discharge my selfe take them vnto you and as for my parte Prest● sum loqui coram domino et Christo eius I am here ready to answer for my selfe before the Lorde and hys anointed Behold here I am record of me before the Lorde Vtrum cuiusquā bona c. Whether I haue taken any mans oxe ani mans asse or wether I haue done anye man wronge or hurte anye man or taken any bribes at anye mans hande I canne commende the Englyshe traslation that doeth interprete munera bribes not gyftes They answered nay forsooth We knowe no such thinges in you Testis est michi deus saieth he God is witnes Quod nihil inueneritis in manu mea That you haue found nought in my handes Fewe suche Samuels are in England nor in the world Why dyd Samuell thys marye to purge hymselfe he was enforced to it for he was wrōgfullye deposed Thē bi this ye mai perceiue the fault of the Iewes for they offended not God in askyng of a king but for asking for a kinge to the wronging and desposiciō of good father Samuel If after Samuels death the people had asked of God a kynge they hadde not faulted but it is no smale faute to put an innocente out of his office Kynge Dauyd lykewyse commaunded his people to be numbred and therewyth offended God greuouslye Why might he not knowe the numbre of hys people Yes it was not the numbrynge of the people that offended God for a king may number his people but he dyd it of a pride of an elacion of mynde not accordyng to Gods
God visited the second tyme he poured downe showeres of rayne tyll all the worlde was drowned Loth was a visitoure of Sodome Gomorre but because they regarded not hys preachynge God visited theym the seconde tyme and brente theym all vp wyth brymstone sauynge Loth. Moyses came fyrst a visitacion into Egypte with goddes word because they would not here hym God visited them agayne and drowned theym in the redde sea God lykewyse with his fyrst visitaciō visited y e Israelites by his prophetes but because they woulde not heare his Prophetes he visited them the seconde tyme and dispersed them in Assiria and Babilon Iohn Baptyste lybewyse and oure Sauioure Chryste visited theym afterwarde declarynge to them Goddes wyll and bycause they despysed these vysytours he destroyed Hiesrusalem by Titus and Uespasianus Germany was vysyted .xx. yeares with goddes word but they dyd not earnestlye embrace it and in lyfe folowe it but made a myngle mangle and a hotch-potch of it I can not tell what partely poperye partelye true religion mīgled to geather They say in my contrye when they cal theyr hogges to the swyne troughe Come to thy myngle mangle come pyr come pyr euen so they made mingle mangle of it They coulde clatter and prate of the Gospell but when all cōmeth to al they ioyned poperye so wyth it that they marde all to gether they scratched and scraped all the lyuynges of the churche and vnder a couloure of relygyon turned it to theyr owne proper gaine and lucre God seynge that they woulde not come vnto hys worde now he visiteth them in the seconde tyme of hys visitacion with hys wrathe For the takynge awaye of Goddes word is a manyfeste token of hys wrath We haue now a fyrst visitation in Englande let vs beware of the seconde We haue the mynystracyon of hys worde we are yet well but the house is not cleane swepte yet Gode hath sente vs A noble Kynge in thys hys vysytacyon let vs not prouoke hym against vs let vs beware lette vs not dysplease hym let vs not be vnthankefull and vnkynde lette vs beware of bywalkynge and contemnynge of goddes worde let vs praye dylygently for our kynge let vs receyue wyth all obedience and prayer the worde of GOD. A worde or two more and I commytte you to God I wyll monyshe you of a thyng I heare saye ye walke inordinatelye ye talke vnsemelye other wayes then it becommeth Christian subiectes Ye take vpon you to Iudge the Iudgementes of Iudges I wyll not make the Kynge a Pope for the Pope wyl haue al thynges that he doth taken for an Article of our fayth I wyll not saye but that the Kynge and hys councell maye erre the Parliamente housses both the hyghe and lowe maye erre I pray daily that they may not erre It becommeth vs what soeuer they decree to stande vnto it and receyue it obedyentlye as farre forthe as it is not manifeste wycked and dyrectlye agaynst the worde of GOD. Yt pertayneth vnto vs to thynke the beste thoughe we can not rēder a cause for the doyng of euery thynge For Charitas omnia credit omnia sperat Charitie dothe beleue and trust all thynges We ought to expounde to the best al thynges al thoughe wee can not yelde a reason Therefore I exhorte you good people pronounce in good part al the facte and dedes of the magystrates and iudges Charyte iudgeth the best of all men and specyallye of magystrates S. Paule sayeth Nulite iudicare ante tempus donec Dominus aduenerit Iudge not before the tyme of the Lordes commynge Prauum cor hominis Mānes hart is vnserchable it is a ragged pece of worke no man knoweth hys owne hart and therfore Dauid prayeth sayeth Ab occultis meis munda me Delyuer me from my vnknowen faultes I am a further offender then I can se. A man shal be blynded in loue of hym self not se so much in him selfe as in other men let vs not therfore iudge iudges We are cōptable to God and so be they Let them alone they haue theyr coūtes to make Yf we haue charytie in vs we shal do this For Charitas operatur Charytye worketh What worketh it marye Omnia credere omnia sperare To accept all thynges in good part Nolite iudicare ante tempus Iudge not before the Lordes commyng In this we learne to know Antichryst whych doth eleuate hym selfe in the churche and iudgeth at hys pleasure before the time Hys canonizasyōs and iudgynge of men before the lordes iudgement be a manifest token of Antichrist How can he knowe Saynctes He knoweth not hys owne hart he can not knowe theim by myracles For some myracle workers shall go to the deuyl I wyl tel you what I remēbred yester nyghte in my bed A meruaylous tale to perceyue howe inscrutable a mans herte is I was once at Oxford for I hadde occasyon to come that waye when I was in my offyce they tolde me it was a gayner way and afayrer waye and by that occasyon I lay ther a nyght Beyng ther I heard of an execution that was done vppon one that suffered for treason It was as ye know a dangerous worlde for it myghte soone cost a man hys lyfe for awordes speakyng I can not tell what the matter was but the iudge set it so out that the man was condemned The .xii. men came in and sayed gyltye and vpon that he was iudged to be hanged drawen quartred When the rope was aboute hys necke no man coulde perswade hym that he was in any faulte and stoode there a great whyle in the protestation of his innocency Thei hanged hym and cut him doune somwhat to soone afore he was cleane deade then they drewe hym to the fyre and he reuiued and then he comming to hys remembrance confessed his faulte and sayed he was gyltye O a wonderful example it may well be sayed Prauū cor hominis et inscrutabile A crabbed peace of worke vnsercheable I wyl leue here for I thinke you know what I meane wel ynough I shall not neede to applye thys example anye further As I began euer with this saying Quecunque scripta sunt like a trouant and so I haue a commune place to the ende yf my memory fayle me Beati qui audiunt verbū dei et custodiunt illud Blessed be they that heare the word of God and kepe it It muste be kept in memory in lyuyng and in our conuersacion And yf we so do we shal come to the blessednes whiche god prepared for vs thorow hys sonne Iesu Chryste to the whyche he bring vs al Amen ¶ The fourth Sermon of Mayster Hughe Latymer whych he preached before the Kynge wythin hys graces Palayce at Westminster the .xxix. daye of Marche QVecunque scripta sunt ad nostram doctrinam scripta sunt Al thinges that are wryten are wrytten to be oure doctryne The Parable that I toke to begyn wyth most