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A59372 Several arguments for concessions and alterations in the common prayer, and in the rites and ceremonies of the Church of England in order to a comprehension / by a minister of the Church of England, as by law established. Minister of the Church of England. 1689 (1689) Wing S2752; ESTC R33871 58,452 80

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