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A reformed catechism. The first dialogue in two dialogues concerning the English Reformation / collected for the most part, word for word out of Dr. Burnet, John Fox, and other Protestant historians ; published for the information of the people in reply to Mas William Kings answer to D. Manby's considerations &c. ; by Peter Manby.
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Manby, Peter, d. 1697.
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since few attempt upon the Chastity or make Declarations of Love to Persons of so exalted a Quality except they see some Invitations at least in their Carriage Others thought that a free and jovial Temper might with great Innocence though with no Discretion lead one to all those things that were proved against her page 206. A. I pray tell us the sum of her Story as well what the Doctor says for her as against her B. You may assure your self he says nothing to her disadvantage but what the meer force of Truth extorts from him The only design of his History being to magnify the Reformation and all the Friends thereof He tells us page 202. She was indicted of High Treason the Crimes charged upon her being these viz. That she had procured her Brother and the other four to Lye with her which they had done often and that she said to them that the King never had her Heart and had said to every one of them by themselves that she loved them better than any Person whatsoever which was to the slander of the Issue that was Begotten between the King and Her viz. the Lady Elisabeth It was also added in the Indictment that she and her Complices had conspired the Kings Death But this it seems was only put in saith the Doctor to swell the Charge When the Indictment was read she held up her hand and pleaded not Guilty and so did her Brother and did Answer the Evidence that was brought in against her discreetly One thing is remarkable that Mark Smeton who was the only Person that confessed any thing was never confronted with the Queen nor was kept to be an Evidence against her having received his Sentence three days before and so could be no witness in Law. But perhaps though he was wrought on to Confess yet they did not think he had Confidence enough to aver it to the Queens Face therefore the Evidence they brought as Spelman says was the Oath of a Woman that was Dead Yet this or rather the Terror of offending the King so wrought on the Lords that they found her and her Brother Guilty page 202. and Judgment was given that she should be Burnt A. Proceed B. Now she lying under so terrible a Sentence it is most probable that either some hopes of Life were given her or at least she was wrought on by the assurances of mitigating that cruel part of her Judgment of being Burnt into the milder part of the Sentence of having her Head cut off So that she confessed a Precontract with the Lord Peircy and on the 17th of May was brought to Lambeth and in Court the afflicted Archbishop Crammer sitting Judge some Persons of Quality being present she confessed some just and lawful Impediments by which it was Evident that her Marriage with the King was not valid upon which Confession her Marriage between the King and Her was judged to have been null and void The Record of the Sentence is burnt says the Doctor but these particulars are repeated in the Act that passed the next Parliament touching the Succession to the Crown page 203 1 Vol. NOTE The Record of the Sentence annulling her Marriage to be sure was not burnt by the Enemies but Friends of Queen Elisabeth That her Mother Ann made this Confession the Doctor is positive but upon what Reasons he is not positive only she lying under so terrible a Sentence It is most probable saith he that either some hopes of Life were given her or at least she was wrought on by the assurances of mitigating the cruel Sentence of being Burnt into that of having her Head cut off ibid. page 203. A. The Doctor is a good Advocate B. Observe his following words which are his own witty Reflections on this matter viz. The two Sentences that were past upon the Queen the one of Attainder for Adultery the other of Divorce because of a Precontract did so Contradict one another that it was apparent one if not both of them must be unjust For if the Marriage between the King and Her was null from the beginning then since she was not the Kings wedded Wife there could be no Adultery And her Marriage with the King was either a true Marriage or not if it was true then the annulling of it was unjust And if it was no true Marriage then the Attainder was unjust for there could be no breach of that Faith which was never given p. 203. NOTE But it appears by her own Confession that she had given her Faith both to the King and the Lord Peircy Only the Doctor in his Margine there calls it an extorted Confession Heylin relates the matter thus History of Reformation pag. 259. The admirable attractions of which young Lady Ann Bolen had drawn the King so fast unto her that in short time he gave her an absolute Sovereignty over all his Thoughts But so long he concealed his Affections from her that a great League and Intercourse was contracted betwixt her and the young Lord Peircy the eldest Son of Henry Lord Peircy who being brought up in the Cardinals Service had many opportunities of confirming acquaintance with her See the rest pag 259. Sir Henry Norris Sir Francis Weston William Brereton and Mark Smeton were tryed in Westminster Hall They were twice indicted and the Indictments found by two Grand Juries in the Counties of Kent and Mida'lesex the Crimes with which they were charged being said to be done in both those Counties The three first pleaded â—…t Guilty Mark Smeton confessed he had known the Queen caâ—…ally three times But the Jury upon the Evidence formerly mentioned found them all Guilty Doctor Burnet pag. 201 202. first vol. NOTE If Mark Smeton belyed the Queen for the saving his Life 't is very strange that at his Execution he did not declare the Truth for the Vindication of the Queens Honour and his own Innocency But Heylin gives this account of it pag. 264. which I will not conceal from the Reader viz. From none of the Witnesses they namely the Kings Commissioners were able to get any thing by all their Arts which might give any ground for her Conviction but that Mark Smeton had been wrought on to make some Confession of himself to her Dishonour out of a vain hope to save his own Life by the loss of hers Concerning which Cromwell thus writes to the King after the Prisoners had been thoroughly examined in the Tower by the Lords of the Council Many things saith he have been objected but nothing confessed only some Circumstances have been acknowledged by Mark Smeton It appears also by a Letter of Sir William Kingstons says Heylin that he had much communication with her when she was his Prisoner in which her Language seemed to be broken btwixt Tears and Laughter out of which nothing could be gathered but that she exclaimed against Norris as if he had accused her It was further signified in that Letter that she named some others
pains was taken to instruct her better but she refused to enter into any Reasonings and claimed the Promise that was said to be made to the Emperor But it was told her that it was but temporary and conditional Whereupon the last Summer anno 1550. she was designing to fly out of England The Emperors Ambassador solicited for her violently and said he would presently take leave and protest that they had broken their Faith to his Master who would resent the Usage of the Lady Mary as highly as if it were done immediately to himself The Privy Counsellors having no mind to draw a new War on their Heads especially from so victorious a Prince were all inclined to let the matter fall There was also a Years Cloth lately sent over to Antwerp and 1500 Quintals of Powder with a great deal of Armour bought there for the King's use was not come over So it was thought by no means advisable to provoke the Emperor while they had such effects in his Ports Nor were they very willing to give higher Provocations to the next Heir of the Crown Therefore they all advised the King not to do more in that matter at present but to leave the Lady Mary to her Discretion who would certainly be made more Cautious by what she had met with and would give as little scandal as was possible by her Mass But King Edward could not be induced to give way to it for he thought the Mass was Impious and Idolatrous as Cranmer and the rest of his Tutors had instructed him so he would not consent to the continuance of such a Sin. Upon this the Council ordered Cranmer Ridley and Poinet the new Bishops of Winchester to discourse with him about it They told him it was always a Sin in a Prince to permit any Sin but to give a Connivance that is not to Punish was not always a Sin. Since sometimes a lesser Evil connived at might prevent a greater He was overcome by this yet not so easily but that he burst forth into Tears lamenting his Sisters obstinacy and that he must suffer her to continue in so abominable a way of Worship as he esteemed the Mass Burnet ibid. Reader Observe here the Casuistry of these new Apostles Cranmer Ridley and Poinet c. governing the Conscience of this young King. At his Fathers death they all went to Mass King Henry was no sooner dead but they represent it to King Edward as the most impious and detestable Idolatry not to be tolerated by any Christian King He understood not their Knavery being then anno 1546. a Child of nine years old but verily thought them what they pretended to be the most sincere Christians After four or five years he is amazed to find the Spirt of Reformation appearing with a Cloven foot and distinguishing betwixt Permitting and Conniving at the impiety of the Mass for interests sake He burst our into Tears at the Counsel of these new Evangelists thus mingling earthly Policy with Religion But mark what follows Burnet informs you that King Edward's Council being now less in fear of the Emperor In July anno 1551 sent for Inglefield Walgrave and Rochester three of the Lady Marys chief Officers and gave them Instructions to signifie unto her the Kings Pleasure to have the new Service in her Family these are Burnets words and to return with an Answer In August they came back and said she received the Message very grievously and that she would obey the King in all things except where her Conscience was touched Upon this they were sent to the Tower. Then the Lord Chancellor Sir Authony Wingfield and Sir William Petre were sent unto her with a Letter from the King and Instructions from the Council They came to her House at Copthall in Essex The Lord Chancellor gave her the Kings Letter which she received on her knees and said she paid that respect to the Kings Hand and not to the Matter of the Letter which she knew proceeded from the Council And when she read it she said Ah! Mr. Cecil took much pains here he was then Secretary of State so she turned to the Counsellors and bid them deliver their Message to her wishing them to be short for she was not well at ease The Lord Chancellor told her that all the Council were of one mind that she must be no longer suffered to have private Mass or a Form of Religion different from what was established by Law. He went to read the Names of those that were of that mind but she desired him to spare his pains she knew they were all of a sort They next told her they had Order to require her Chaplains to use no other Service than what was according to Law. She answered she was the Kings most obedient Subject and Sister and would obey him in every thing but where her Conscience held her and would willingly suffer Death to do him Service but she would lay her Head on a Block rather than use any other Form of Service than what had been at her Fathers Death only she thought observe this she was not worthy to suffer Death upon so good an account When the King came to be of Age so that he could order these things himself she would obey his Commands in Religion For although he Good Sweet King these were her words had more Knowledge than any of his years yet he was not a fit Judge in these matters For if a Ship were to be set to Sea or any matter of Policy to be determined they would not think him fit for it much less could he be able to resolve Points of Divinity I have transcribed this passage at large out of Burnet pag. 173 174. 2. vol. for two reasons 1. To acquaint the Reader how these Reformers steered their course according to their Interest For in July 1551. being now in less fear of the Emperor says Burnet they sent 3 Messengers to her to signifie the Kings Pleasure that she must be no longer suffered to have Mass in her Family 2. To entertain you with this passage of the Christian and Noble Behaviour of the Lady Mary confessed by Burnet himself And more of it you shall hear anon A. You promised another passage out of Burnet B. 'T is this On the 12th of April 1549. the third year of Edward VI a Complaint was brought to the Council that with the Strangers that were come into England some Anabaptists had come over and were disseminating their Errors and making Proselites so a Commission was ordered for the Archbishop of Canterbury the Bishops of Ely Wircester Westminster Chichester Lincoln and Rochester c. and some others three of them being a Quorum to examine and search after all Anabaptists Heretiques or Contemners of the Common Prayer They were to endeavour to reclaim them to enjoyn them Penance and give them Absolution or if they were obstinate to excommunicate and imprison them and to deliver them over to the secular Power to