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A05089 A petition directed to Her Most Excellent Maiestie wherein is deliuered 1. A meane howe to compound the ciuill dissention in the Church of England, 2. A proofe that they who write for reformation, do not offend against the stat. of 23. Eliz. c.2. and therefore till matters be compounded, deserue more fauour ... : here vnto is annexed, some opinions of such as sue for reformation ... : also, certayne articles vvherein is discouered the negligence of the bishoppes ... : lastlie, certayne questions or interrogatories dravvn by a fauourer of reformation ... Barrow, Henry, 1550?-1593. 1591 (1591) STC 1522A; ESTC S1453 68,920 84

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other Christian and noble Potentates who haue maineteyned fauoured preferred the Ministers that stande for Reformatiō And whether here in England the Right honorable Sir Nicholas Bacon L. Keeper the Earles of Bedforde Warwicke and Leicester Sir Frauncis Walsingham Sir Water Mildmay Sir Amias Paulet other right noble Lords Councellours Countees and Countesses would haue coūtenanced and protected the Ministers that seeke Reformation if they had perceiued them to be enemies to the Queene a●d state worse then papistes and miscreantes And whether our Prelates be more trustie to hir Maiesty and prouident to auoide daunger then those excellent personages were 40 Quaere whether a Minister ought not to admonish the mightiest Prince of his duty refuse to administer the Sacrament vnto him if he be a notorious offendour and pronoūce him to be no member of Christ in the Communion of Saints if he continue obstinate in open crimes And whether vnder the Lawe Dauid and other Princes were not subiect to ceremoniall expiations and the spirituall power of Priestes and Prophets And whether Ambrose did well in vsing like authority towardes an Emperour And lastly whether Zanchius Caluin Bucer Nowell Iewell Bilson and Bridges approuing the like be traytours popes and tyrants 41 Quaere why there may not be vnder a Christian Magistrate Pastours Teachers Elders Deacons and widowes aswell as Parsons Lectures or Schoolemaisters Church Wardens Chauncellours Collectours for the poore and Hospitall Women seeing these doe and may execute in authority and power the whol forme of Church-gouernement desired though their practise thereof is infinitely corrupted against the Canons of the Apostles to the daunger of the Church and dishonour of the Realme 42 Quaere whether the Ecclesiastical High Commission be not in effect an Eldership wherein some gouerne with ministers who by profession are temporall Lawiers Ciuillians meere lay men And whether their gouernement consisting of spirituall and temporall persons be a Medley a Linsie woolsie Discipline as the Remonstrāce calleth the Eldership which is now desired 43 Quaere If the sole gouernement of a Bishop in a Dioces bee sufficient and most agreeable to Gods worde why is there an Ecclesiasticall Commission standing of many persons ciuill and Ecclesiasticall or if an Ecclesiasticall Commission be needefull in a Realme who in a prouince if in a Prouince why not in a Dioces if in a Dioces why not in a Deanrie if in a Dea●rie why not in a Parishe Lasty why might there not without absurditie and breach of true vniformitie be planted in some places already capable a Consistory or commission of Elders though the like cannot presently be accompli●hed in all seeing there be newe ecclesiasticall Commissions erected Deanes and Chapters Broken musicke and Organes in some places not in other Hearken you Sages and Iudges of the lawe it is expected at your hands that you see Euen Iustice done to all her Highnes subiectes rich and poore without regard to any person papist Protestant puritane or other If you suffer her maiesties subiected that sue for iustice to be cited punished imprisoned vexed and molested against lawe by any Prelate or ecclesiasticall iudge whatsoeuer doe incurre the breach of your oath are in her maiesties mercy for your bodies landes and goods Pereat mundus fiat Iustitia 〈…〉 a 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 b 25. H. 8. ca. 19. ● E ● ca 11. 〈…〉 〈…〉 c 〈…〉 d pag. 29. e pag. 80. f pag. 57. g pag. 20. h pag. 22. i pag. 27. k pag. 31. l pag. 43. m pag. 47. n pag. 81. o 1. Eli. 2. c. ● 〈…〉 p 5 6. 〈…〉 q 1. Eliz. c. 2. r B●●ke of ordering Ministers 〈…〉 s 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 t 〈…〉 u 〈…〉 x Ca●on dis pag ●0 y 〈…〉 The Bb s●ould aswell vse pastorall staue● 〈…〉 z 〈…〉 pag. 679. 〈…〉 a 〈…〉 b Disputat Mat. 〈◊〉 pag. 83. c Admoni ag 〈…〉 pag. 53 1. eds 〈…〉 d Ibid pa. 99. Ibi pa. 139. f 〈…〉 Puni●●ment of Adul●erie g 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 h 〈…〉 i 〈…〉 k Ibid p. 135. l 〈◊〉 pag. 166. m pag. 9. 〈…〉 〈…〉 n 〈…〉 o 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 1. Sam. 21. 〈…〉 〈…〉 D. Bridges 〈…〉 p 〈…〉 D Bridges 〈…〉 q Of the Princ. Supre pag 359. r Defence of gouernment pag. ●48 c. s ●bid pag. 281. 372. 〈…〉 t 〈…〉 〈…〉 x 〈…〉 y 〈…〉 z 〈…〉 a 〈…〉 b 〈…〉 c 〈…〉 d 〈…〉 e 〈…〉 f 〈…〉 g 〈…〉 h 〈…〉 i 〈…〉 k 〈…〉 l 〈…〉 m 〈…〉 n 〈…〉 o 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 p 〈…〉 q 〈…〉 r 〈…〉 s 〈…〉 t 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 y 〈…〉 a 〈…〉 b 〈…〉 c 〈…〉 〈…〉 d 〈…〉 e 〈…〉 f 〈…〉 g 〈…〉 〈…〉 h Ibid pa. 4● i Ibid. pag. 57. 〈…〉 k 〈…〉 〈…〉 a 〈…〉 b 〈…〉 c 〈…〉 d 〈…〉 e 〈…〉 f 〈…〉 g 〈…〉 h 〈…〉 i 〈…〉 h 〈…〉 〈…〉 m 〈…〉 n 〈…〉 o 〈…〉 p 〈…〉 q 〈…〉 r 〈…〉 s 〈…〉 t 〈…〉 u 〈…〉 w 〈…〉 x 〈…〉 y 〈…〉 〈…〉 a 〈…〉 b 〈…〉 c 〈…〉 d 〈…〉 e 〈…〉 f 〈…〉 g 〈…〉 h 〈…〉 i 〈…〉 k 〈…〉 l 〈…〉 m 〈…〉 n 〈…〉 m Table of all n 〈…〉 o 〈…〉 p 〈…〉 q 〈…〉 〈…〉 r 〈…〉 〈…〉 t 〈…〉 u 〈…〉 w 〈…〉 x 〈…〉 y 〈…〉 z 〈…〉 a 〈…〉 b 〈…〉 c 〈…〉 d 〈…〉 e 〈…〉 f 〈…〉 g 〈…〉 h 〈…〉 i 〈…〉 k 〈…〉 l 〈…〉 m 〈…〉 n 〈…〉 o 〈…〉 p 〈…〉 q 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 r 〈…〉 s 〈…〉 t 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 a Ser pag. 83. b 〈…〉 〈…〉 〈…〉 c 〈…〉 d 〈…〉 The Bb. be not one of the thre● states e 〈…〉 〈…〉 f 〈…〉 g 〈…〉 〈…〉 h 〈…〉 i Dorm Rep. pag. 〈◊〉 k Act. and M●n pag ●21 l 〈…〉 m 〈…〉 a D With pag. 309. 〈…〉 b 〈…〉 c 〈…〉 The Seekers of 〈…〉 a Esa. ●6 10. Vnpr●aching ministers b Esai 56. 10. 〈…〉 Priestes c 〈◊〉 44. 8. 〈…〉 d Esa. 56. 11. 〈…〉 e 〈…〉 〈…〉 f 1 King 15. 14 〈…〉 g 〈…〉 〈…〉 The Seekers of 〈…〉 Color of can●●● 〈…〉 d 〈…〉 〈…〉 e Admoni● aga M. M. 183. f D 〈…〉 A Priest and Bish by Gods 〈…〉 g 〈…〉 pag. 281. 〈…〉 pag 18. Admonit agai M. M. pag. 44 h Cont. Haeres lib. 3. 〈…〉 75. i 〈…〉 pag. 668. 748. 〈◊〉 Whi●ak Con. Du● pag. 447. 〈…〉 Tim. 5. Harding Def. 〈◊〉 pag. 2●0 Sta●leton Bridg. of Princ. Supr pag. 359. 〈…〉 k In 1. Tim 3. 2. 1. Tim. 5. 17. 1. Tim 3. 1. What the law 〈…〉 See the stat●● l 〈…〉 m 〈…〉 n 〈…〉 〈…〉 o 〈…〉 p 〈…〉 q 〈…〉 r 〈…〉 s 〈…〉 t 〈…〉 〈…〉 w 〈…〉 x 〈…〉 y 〈…〉 〈…〉 z 〈…〉 a 〈…〉 b 〈…〉 c 〈…〉 d 〈…〉 e 〈…〉 f 〈…〉 g 〈…〉 h 〈…〉 i 〈…〉 k 〈…〉 l 〈…〉 m 〈…〉 n 〈…〉 o 〈…〉 p 〈…〉 q 〈…〉 r 〈…〉 〈…〉 s 〈…〉 t 〈…〉 〈…〉 w 〈…〉 x 〈…〉 y 〈…〉 z 〈…〉 a 〈…〉 b 〈…〉
Reformation as felons that yet it is Expedient I answere that if such law be admitted it will be the most daungerous perillous practise that euer was receiued within this Realme of Englande For neither the Prince the Councellours the Magistrates Bishops Iudges or best subiectes can liue in security If men may violate law and iustice vpon a colour or pretence of Expediencie what endlesse mischie●es may insue vnto the common wealth What kinde of president would this be to al succeding ages To what purpose haue our auncestours prouided that there shoulde bee euery yeare or oftner a Parliament to supply the defectes of law if vppon a surmise of experiencie men might goe beyond the listes and limites of lawe If the reuerende Iudges of the lande who ought to preserue the integrity and honour of the lawe shoulde admit any such learning besides that it would ouerthrow both the common and statute law it would indaunger the keeping of their oth giue their goods landes and liues to the Princes pleasure Some will expect that I shoude answere the charge against the writer of the Demonstration if one man made both the Epistle and the booke which I haue not as yet hearde to bee proued but seeing he is conuicted by the verdict of 12. men the proceeding against him notoriouslie knowen the accusation and woordes wherevpon hee was conuicted in euerie mans mouth I leaue it to the iudgement of the great day when the Iudge all Iudges shalbe iudged before the Iudge of heauen and earth who will rewarde euery man according to that which he hath done good or ill Precious in the eies of the Lorde is the death of his Saintes O earth thou canst not couer bloude It still cryeth in the eares of the Lord for vengeance saying How long Lorde holy and true doest not thou Iudge and auenge our bloude on them that dwell on the earth Surelie he that preserueth the haires of the head and putteth the teares of his seruantes into a bottel will much more preserue in his bottel the drops of the bloude that fall from the bodies of his saintes Therefore be warned bee wise and take heede what you doe ye Iudges of the earth It is one thing to deale with a theefe and murtherer another thing to iudge a Minister preacher of the Gospell of Christ your redeemer and that in matters of religion wherein God knoweth you haue small vnderstanding Thus haue I runne ouer the obiections made to proue the writers of Reform against the Hierarchie to bee diffamers of hir Maiestie and rebelles I will proceede a little further to shew that if men would be curious in their writings that deale for the Bb. and if their wordes were a little inforced as they might be by M. Dolion or some such factor for the Bish I feare they might incurre the daunger of this ●tatute as easily as others The Bb. in their booke doe write That it is not lawfull to bestowe such liuings vpon late men as are appointed by 〈◊〉 to Preachers of the worde Though this might stande good and yet ouerthrowe many of our Bb. states honors who preach not the word yet this doeth reproch hir Maiestie who doeth imploy some of the ●b liuings o●tentimes to better vses then Bb doe bestowe them M. VVicleve that famous protestant taught another lesson 〈…〉 And who will not thinke the superfluitie of a Bb. liuing better bestowed vppon such a man as Sir Frauncis Walsingham that right honorable Councelor and benefactor of the Church and Countrie then vppon any Bb. that referreth al abondance to the aduancement of his house and posteritie D. Br●ages mainteineth in writing That a Priest maie haue a moderate Lordely iurisdiction ouer all the Lordes allotment and 〈◊〉 Which implieth and externall ●ordely iurisdiction ouer hir Maiestie v●les he will say That she is none of Gods heritage both which might be made a daungerous doctrine D. Bancroft writeth That her M●iestie is a P●ty pope and ascribeth to hir all the iurisdiction that the Pope euer had by vsurpation M. Iewell saieth That the popish Prelates gaue K. Henr●● the 8. the strange and vnvsed ●ule of head of the Church to bring him into the slander and taske of the worlde And the Parliament for auoyding scandale changed the title of Supreme heade to Suprem Gouernour If Maist. Iewell misliked that th● Queene should be called Supreme heade what would he haue thought of Pety pope or howe can the Parliament beare this Do not the Protestantes detest in the pap their woman pope The Archb. of Canterb. would bee displeased and I can not blame him if a man should call him Pope Notwithstanding the Pope saide of one of his predecessors Includamus hunc in orbe nostro tanquam 〈◊〉 orbis Papam Let vs include this A●selme in our woorlde as Pope of another worlde meaning great Britaine called by the auncient writers a world by it selfe yet it is thought nothing to call hir Maiestie a Pe●y pope Doctor Whitakers sayeth That the Name authoritie and person of the Pope all Protestantes doe abhorre and accurse to the Prince of darknesse whence it came The papistes doe slaunder hir Maiestie to be a Pope or Pety pope but M. Nowell telleth the papistes and D. Bancroft also That wee doe not teach that the Princes be either Popes or Pety popes The papistes also doe abuse hir Highnes as D. Bancroft doeth saying That vve take the Supremacie from the Pope and giue it to the Prince But Doctor Rainolds aunswereth That the Supremacie which vvee take from the Pope vve giue to no mortali creature Prince or other But D. Banc. who thinketh himselfe a great Clerke as if he were a deeper Diuine then either M. Nowell or M. Rainolds whom he vseth to call a Prec●fian maketh hir Maiestie a Petie pope assigneth hir not some of the Popes power but ALL honors dignities preeminences iurisd●ctions priuileges authorities profites and commodities which by vsurpation did at anie time apperta●e vnto the Pope If a man can diffame by foolishe flatterie then D. Banc●s the most notorious di●●amer of hir Maiestie in al England Neither lawe reason religion or good manners doeth wa●rant this God forbid that like extremity were extended for these faultes as hath bin vsed against the Seek of Reformat I doe not recount them for that purpose but onely that the Bb. and their friendes seeing their owne case if hir Maiestie vvere not mercifull may deale more curteously with their brethren Conclusion Considering the doubtfulnes of these controuersies I trust your Maiesty will take some good order for the peaceable debating compounding of them In the meane time we hope that these things which are here writen being well weighed your gratious and tender heart will neuer suffer one drop of bloud to fall to ground for these causes of Reform till