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A26774 The regall apology, or, The declaration of the Commons, Feb. 11, 1647, canvassed wherein every objection and their whole charge against His Majesty is cleared, and for the most part, retorted. Bate, George, 1608-1669. 1648 (1648) Wing B1090; ESTC R17396 65,011 98

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banishment of her Priests 4. The Man was of so weak Parts and of so loose a life that his Company might have been borne withall the better to serve as a Disswasive from his Religion as the Lacedemonians used by the apish and uncouth behaviour of Drunkards to possesse their young Children with a perfect hatred of that vice 5. Assoon as it was discovered distastfull or of danger he had his Mittimus 6. That of the Blanks left with Windehank and of his Letters and Flight Answered 1. Whosoever knows the Custome of the Court knows it to be no strange matter of Trust with a Secretary of State to be imployed in any sudden emergency when there cannot be recourse unto the King especially when there are generall Instructions left and sometimes the very matter made ready the forme only referred to his discretion Nay further there are some of the House of Commons can testifie how familiar it is for a Secretary of State to entrust the same with his owne Secretaries and how impossible it is to dispatch businesses of haste and necessity without some such remedy I have heard the like is not unusuall with his Excellency the Lord Fairfax and other Great Commanders to give their Servants of Trust leave to subscribe their names for them in matters of common concernment I am sure Col. Mainwayring the Passe-maker which was the best Trade he ever drove in time of greatest danger to the City and affrightment also left his Hand and Seale with many of his Servants to fill up with the names of such Persons as they should think fit Nay but doe not the Houses themselves daily so or more in matters of high concernment by their Power delegated unto the Keepers of the Great Seale Privy-Seale and their ordinary Courts of Justice their Secretary of State and persons officiating in Trust under them 2. If he were a notorious favourer of Papists His Majesty might likely not know so much of him Servants being generally studious to conceale their faults from their Masters 3. If His Majesty did know it yet Places of Trust have been often delegated by Princes to such as have been of a Perswasion contrary to theirs whom they have found Persons capable thereof Even Q. Elizabeth her selfe did send the Viscount Montacute upon an Embassy to Spaine in behalf of the Scots and to justifie the Protestant Religion though he were a Papist as Camden hath it in her Life Now whereas it is added the King would not leave any such with his Parliament 1. The Case is different if it be meant with them for passing of Acts which were not repealable by himself whereas the Secretary was accomptable for his Transactions and his deeds They if not answerable to His Majesties desires capable of reversion by His Majesty 2. There was no need in so short an absence of His Majesty whilest Bills are so long in debate before they come to their Perfection For His Letters we can give no accompt unlesse we knew their purport He might run away justly and in providence which every man oweth to himself He saw the House of Commons begin to ramp upon him and he knew how easie it was for them to find a staffe to beat a dog withall and make a just quarrell when they had an edge against any man That of the Plot to destroy all the Protestants in England Answered But the Plot to cut all the Protestants throats is so brim-full of Malice that it confutes it self 1. It is well known there are not in all above 24000 Papists convicted in all England and Wales allow as many more without that capacity for sure when you shall have deducted the old decrepit Men and all the Women their number will not be much above Now how these Papists should procure Armes embody and no discovery be made of it so as to become considerable and if all in a Body accomplish the Ruine of above a Thousand for One is incomprehensible yea though each one had the hands of Gerion and Briareus and in each hand the Club of Hercules The Protestants had need first be tamer Creatures then these late Broyles have shewed them to be In Ireland where the Papists and Natives are five hundred to one what a tough piece of work have they found it to root them out and now we hope they may drink of the same Cup they provided for Others 2. The King in that case must be look'd on as void of common understanding who would devest himself of the Monarchy over so many Millions of men that he might have it only over 24000 to inhabit this spacious Territory nay and some of them like to come short home 1. That of the Queens pious Designe Answered The Queens pious Designe was knowne to be nothing more then a Contribution by way of Assistance to her Husband against the Scots whom he then look'd upon as his Enemies And to that Expedition divers of themselves divers of the Vpper House afforded their helping hand under the same notion Essex Holland Northumberland Salisbury c. And why was the fault greater in a Wife to assist her Husband then in Subjects their King 2. That of the Qu. Mothers Servant Answered The Q.M. servant for ought we know may lie as wel as swear If it be the Man we guesse at he is of little credit even among his own Nation Nay the Ministers and Protestants of their Churches here though the man pretend to be under the notion of a Convert and a Protestant now though formerly a Papist give him but a base report And we cannot think it is for nothing that he hath been bolsterd up in the murther of his own Wife under the pretence of Physick in the oppression of her Children which she had by a former Husband and in the prosecution of a worthy Gentleman her Brother 3. That of the suggestion to the Arch-bishop Answered The suggestion to the Arch-Bishop was by one Habernfield a Bohemian from a Priest in Rome first given to Sir William Boswell in Holland and so sent over in which the principall persons to be made away were the King and the Arch-Bishop for their being so much against the Romish Religion and purposes But this Circumstance is wisely enough conceald by these Accusers Can any reasonable man let his belief so run riot as to be perswaded the King should drive on a Plot apparently to his own destruction How blind will malice make whither will it not transport Of the Irish Rebels words we shal speak in a more proper place 4. That of the Armes in Papists houses Answered The Armes and Ammunition in Papists houses were a Bow and Arrows with one brown Bill This cals to our mind the Training under ground the blowing up of the Thames c. Is it not Impudence even to a Prodigie to think now the Scales are fallen from our eyes thus to mock and befool us still 5. That of the Ammunition and Preparations about White-Hall
Subject or be appropriated to one man or more as Charters Priviledges to Cities to Townes Corporate to Corporations Companies of Trade Custome-house-officers the Registers-office in Chancery now enjoyed by Mr. Miles Corbet and Goodwin two Members the Clerks of the Parliament and many such like which were unquestionably used to be granted by the Kings of this Land in order to the governing and well-being thereof But those onely which are notoriously evil before or discovered to be so after and are not for the manner of granting them but for the matter accounted invalid And therefore many great things of high Concernment to the Common-wealth have justly merited and to this day do enjoy the warrant of Law and Authority which were never confirmed by Act of Parliament whilst others of lesse moment have troubled all the three Estates for an Act of Parliamnet as Hunting the Hare Paving of certaine Streets in London c. Now we Answer 1. That these were suggested by Citizens or men skilfull in those wayes and Advantages which might accrew to the respective Trades or Manufactures and so redound to the benefit of the Kingdome 2. That His Majesty did alwayes make reference of these to his Counsell and to others learned in the Law as his Attorney Sollicitor general and Masters of Requests as divers yet alive can testifie and Judge Jenkins hath testified to the view of all the world that they might examine the justice of them and their proportion to the established Laws and that His Majesty hath often given strict charge of great Caution even unto them in their determinations by which meanes multitudes of Monopolies which were by Citizens and others daily represented and pressed on were rejected and the Authors received a Check 3. That even those Grants wherein there was no discoverable Inconvenience but much benefit pretended to the Kingdome were for the most part made but Probationers by him whereas either in the Patent it self there was limitation expressed and a Proviso for their revocation if they appeared contrary to Law or of damage to the Kingdome or there was a Bond entred into by the Parties entrusted unto that purpose 4. That upon any complaint made against them he caused it to be heard sometimes did it Personally at the Councell-Table where the Lord Keeper and the rest of the Judges of his Privy Councell assisted him and about the beginning of the year 1640. when he found the Complaints to multiply against them instead of hearing the Patentees he disanulled their Patents by Proclamation 5. That divers of them are continued untill this day as the Post-office upon Mr. Prideaux of the House The Lord of Warwick The Merchant Adventurers The Greenland trade and many more 6. That this was done in all Kings Reignes and Errours of this nature have been committed from Ed. 4 Hen. 6. to Queen Elizabeths time when they multiplied to a great excesse and King James and they may be pardoned a Prince as well as the Inconveniencies of sundry Acts of Parliament which have been afterward found a Grievance and so repealed the three Estates 7. That many of those who either sit in the Houses or are in great Offices of trust about them and are their Favourites were the Contrivers and Instruments hereof yet were never under question as Sir John Evelin who had the first Monopoly of Powder Sir H. Vane sen who wip'd him of it and settled it upon his own servant when it was the greatest grievance Sir John Trevor who perswaded the King to the Imposition upon Coales Mr. Saint Johns and Cromwell who represented and drove on the Draining of the Fennes the Earle of Holland Mildmay Alderman Woollaston who managed the Monopoly of Gold-and-Silver thread Smith once Secretary to the Earle of Northumberland now in a great Office I must omit Mr. Whitaker Alderman Gibbs Mr. Ralph Farmer Sollicitour for Sequestrations in London Mr. Reading the Lord Majors Passe-maker Mr. Jackson Solliciter for Sequestrations in Westminster and multitudes of others to whom they have offered signall favours since that time never questioning any of them for their Patents or Monopolies Ship-money Answered 1. This was first suggested by Mr. Noy for Law who had few equals in the knowledge thereof 2. Examined and approved by the Lord Keeper Coventry a man of great learning 3. Subscribed by all the Judges of England 4. When it was questioned by Mr. Hamden a free debate was allowed before all the Judges who give Judgement upon Oath and the Businesse disputed Seriatim for many dayes together and at last determined for the King In which debate by the way His Majesty suffered the great Arcanum of Government His High-Prerogative to be banded by their Lawyers at a Bar which these men would never permit to be done by their Priviledges though they do Petition for them in the beginning of every Parliament What fairer course could have been taken What better confirmation could the best Right any man hath to his land of Inheritance have then this 5. If themselves had not been convinced of the justice of the sentence why did they once offer six Subsidies to purchase the abolishment of it Why did they not punish those Judges which we find they have been ready to advance as particularly Trevor who hath nor Law nor Learning whom they have sent at this time upon the Circuit Judge Bramstone whom they proposed unto His Majesty for Chiefe Justice nay and Bankes who was a great Instrument therein yet one they pitched upon for a place of Eminent employment in their first Propositions c. 6. Lastly the King condescended to abolish this Ship-money by an Act of Parliament and why should this be conjur'd up against him This Charge of Oppression upon our Estates by His Ministers and Officers retorted If these were Oppressions O what have we suffered since by those who would make us beleeve they are our Saviours I dare confidently aver and can fully prove it That neither Daneguelt Taxes Loanes Privy-Seals Ship-money c. Nor all the Impositions and grievous Burdens laid upon the Subjects by all the Kings since the Conquest and equalize that Masse of Treasure which themselves have either in their own persons and to their use or by their Instruments under pretence of the publike service squeez'd out of the Subjects of this Kingdome within these five or six years and that for to make good their bound lesse Priviledges to establish them eternally in their Tyrannous usurpation and to make our selves with our Posterity vassals for ever unto their vaine and shuttle Humours In particular to take the blame upon our selves of what we willingly parted withall and what by their Cheates were smoothly invited out of our Purses Have they not constrained us under the notion of Loanes and voluntary Contributions to give the twentieth and fift parts of our Estates unto them at other times 60000. l. 100000. l. 50. Subsidies c. which we should much rather have kept but that the rest
Kingdome might undergo the fullest debate be re committed that a full House might be called and then all referr'd unto the wisdome thereof Where by the way let me put them in mind that the best-govern'd States in Christendome even such to which they pretend to modell themselves Venice Holland c. Indeed where is it not so abroad nothing of Consequence is concluded but wherein two Thirds of the Suffrages do concur In our Kingdom how oft hath a Voice or two an inconsiderable Overplus carried a busines even to our undoing Let me mind them of one thing more That there they have Boxes by which means their Votes are Secret and their consciences under no awe of an Imperious faction under no danger of question for having dissented of being Poasted or expos'd to the Rage of Porters as ours are and have been Even among that number if you deduct such as were Crackt-Courtiers enraged by former dis-respects or having Judas-like betraied their Master cannot be secured but by his Ruine such as were broken Citizens Ven Penington Hervy c. that had in their Eye to heale the wounds of their ruinous Estates such as were Low-fortun'd Soldiers driving at the continuance of their Trade by laying the grounds of new Contestations such as sail'd by the Compasse of their Leaders following the Herd they were sorted to by a blind faith and through pure Simplicity Such as were Committee-men obnoxious and in danger to be question'd for Accounts so willing to shut the dore fast against that storme lastly such as were devoted unto Journy-work in expectation of a Boone or to be reciprocally gratified in some other kind deduct I say all these and you will have a poore Company perhaps no more then sometimes have serv'd in the House of Lords to passe matters of high Consequence the Speaker and one or two more Let the whole world now judge whether this deserves to beare that high Stamp and Character as an Act of the Commons of England assembled in Parliament Of the VOTES and how they were passed in the House of Commons Because the Votes lead the file and are made the occasions of the Declaration It is fit they should come to the Test and I shall shew you how they passed 1. Fifty or sixty as I said afore of the most active intelligent Members suspected to be cros-grain'd to that way were sent abroad under colour of the Publick service 2. The Head-quarters were appointed to draw towards London and the Soldiers from other parts to startle the securer Members and affright the weaker and obnoxious 3. At the Debate the first Vote was begun withall which had some shew of Reason in it cunningly enough that when the Dissenting party had champed upon that awhile they might perhaps yeild unto it and then retire while the other three Votes were dispatched in their Absence 4. To evince these Votes there wanted not Argumenta bacillina Insinuations of Force and compulsion a common practice there in all Debates of Consequence made by Crumwell especially who represented it more then once how dis-tastfull it might be to the Army if not consented to And upon the Division Crumwell addressed himself to Ceely whom he had not spoken to in in many moneths before and gave him thanks whose Answer was that though he was of his mind in that point yet was it not upon his Argument And thus the Votes were carried in the House of Commons The VOTES how passed in the House of Lords There was never much Difficulty made of the maddest Votes to passe the House of Lords if the Commons pleased to switch or spur them up yet here they were not willing to trust their good Natures altogether First a Message of Thanks is sent from the Army by a glittering Committee of six Colonels to the House of Commons with a promise to live die with them in defence thereof a fure sign where the Bird was first brooded and from whence it came to the House of Commons A Message with two faces one looking to what was already done by the Commons the other which was the chief to what was expected from the Lords and afterward from the rest of the Kingdome to which it was meant as a Preparation Secondly Addresse was made in particular to every one of the Lords by these Champions of the Votes the Colonels much Courtship shewed many promises made all of them dealt with according to their severall Temper and Disposition The fiery Spirits stoop'd unto and ply'd with gentle Fomentations the wel-affected encourag'd with some implicit Menaces unto the tame Spirits a strong Motive to bring the Lords over to a complyance with the Commons when they entreat that can enforce it if it be denied Thirdly A publick printed Engagement to maintain the Honour of the House of Peers is tendred For they foreseeing the Inference would unavoidably be made That if the Crown were trampled on Peerage could not look for any long Date did wisely enough by this printed little piece of Rhetorick apply themselves to invalidate that piece of Logick and so to satisfie the Scruples of the Lords before hand Fourthly While the Lords made some demur and as yet the Scale stood even high words passed in the House of Commons to this effect That as they had saved the Kingdome without the Lords so could they settle it without them and more to that purpose Fiftly To make sure work under pretence of a Guard to the Houses a Rod is brought over their Heads of a Regiment of Foot to White-Hall and another of Horse to the Mewes This this struck the businesse dead The Lords are convinc'd by such Arguments and so concur The Iniquity of the VOTES in their Substance I need not spend much time on this Argument it seems the Kingdome is convinced hereof already for neither the Example of the Army who made haste to present a Gratulatory Acknowledgement unto the House for these Votes nor the Policy of the Committee-men Justices men according to their own tooth chosen to adjutate for the two Houses more then for their Country's service with other Engineers and Emissary's Nor yet the Force of their Souldiery dispersed through the Kingdome hath been sufficient to awe them or entice them into such a Noose as to make any demonstration of their Concurrence in Judgement or of Engagement with them in the defence thereof except the poore Towne of Taunton and an inconsiderable part of inconsiderable men in Buckingham-shire we heare of none and for Those it is no Wonder for the Taunton-men are so Independent that they will not acknowledge any Land-lord but pretend those Houses which stand in the Towne were saved by their Sword and with the hazard of their lives and therefore are their owne The Buckingham-shire men were out-witted some being made believe the Petition was for taking off Free-Quarter Others for the Presbyterian Government Others were sent for up to meet their Ministers and other Confidents at
Crowns doe certainly under the same thought suppose him void of Common Reason without the use of his right Wits 3. There was never any Officer or man of quality not the Lord Mac-guire himself who was in the contrivement of the Rebellion that did ever in good earnest when he was in the power of the English and under sentence of Condemnation nay at the point of death which is no time to dissemble that ever did affirme the King any way privy thereunto Though Mac-guire was much importuned fairly promised threatned nay turned off the Cart and recovered again a fact too barbarous toward a very Rebell did acquit the King upon his death to use his owne words and any other man in England except one and he but a private Gentleman who came by chance as he said to the knowledge thereof from being guilty so much as of knowing it 4. In all His Majesties Declarations Messages Letters Speeches to the Parliament he doth not onely speak with much abhorrence and detestation of them but conjure and excite the Parliament to relieve his Protestant Subjects there and to revenge the Bloud that was shed offering his own Person and all other Concurrences therein 5. It may be added that most of the Soldiery imployed in that Action most of the Ministry expulsed by the Natives most of the English Gentry who had their abode in that place even Sir Hardres Waller was so before he came over and that so high that he told the Lord of Ormond though Sir W. Waller were his Kinsman he had learnt to spew such out as forgot their Allegiance to His Majesty and since that untill he saw this Side thrive best and last of all the Independents to whom for their successe sake he hath glew'd himself are but cold friends of the Parliaments and adhered to the King at least in their Opinions which they could not possibly have done if they had ground to suspect their Miseries to have been derived from him especially considering their Necessities and the hopes they might have from the Parliament of Subsistence if not of Preferment also Particular Answers to the particular Proofs Although by what hath been spoken His Majesties Innocence be as clear as the noon-day yet we will be at the pains to follow these men through every step of their Track 1. Of the Seale of Scotland to the Rebels Commissioners 1. It was a wonder the Scots could be ignorant of it by whom the King was sufficiently watched and onely we English at the distance of 300 miles and nothing interested therein should have such Intelligence 2. It is easily averred but untill we meet with better proof then their bare word we have but a poore deale of reason to believe them 3. Mac-guire upon his Death professed he never saw any who had as much reason to see it as any man having been a prime Agent in the very contrivement of that Rebellion 4. If a Commission under the Seale was shewed and boasted of it might easily be done What Difficulty was there for them to make one and afterward set it to what they pleased we know who did as much and issued out Commissions against the King in his Name What great labour was it to fasten an old labell to a new Parchment faire enough to deceive those who were willing to be deceived Nay how weak had they been if they had not done so and done what else was possible to ensure their owne side to amaze the English and cast Bones between us 5. It is of no more truth because affirmed by Sir Philem Oneale or by others of the Rebels The same Persons did withall if these Declarers had been pleased to quote the whole evidence affirme That they were sure of the Scots to be of their side Remonst p. 37. That they had the E. of Argyle's hand and most of the Nobility of Scotland ibid. That the King himself was in person among them These and many other of the same bran Sir J. Temple tells us ingenuously were the devices to delude others and to distract us The Copy of it and the Oaths may be called in question when there are no Particulars named but if true they may be suborn'd on purpose or be of that false Commission which was given them by their owne King Tyrone for so some of the Examinations doe testifie They cared not for King Charles and had a King of their own p. 54. of the Remonstrance 2. His giving 5 Counties and other Acts of Grace Answered For those Acts of Grace imply'd in the Letter by the L. Dillon giving up 5 Counties upon the private mediation of the Commissioners 1. It argues their ingratitude not the Kings concurrence in that they would after so much favour so far dishonour him and seek his mischief 2. They were granted at such a Conjuncture of time that the King had been taught more lessons then one against irritating of a Kingdome or exasperating of Waspes and was concerned to give them satisfaction rather then let them carve for themselves according to the Examples they had before their Eyes 3. These were granted by him not by private mediation of the Commissioners but by the Importunity of both Houses of Parliament see Sir Jo. Temple p. 13. by whom they were sent and under the notion of Redresse of Grievances in which it is worth your notice what our Author testifies That many of the Protestants in Parliament were made instrumentall to them under pretence of Ease and Redresse of Grievances 4. Those Acts were thought necessary by the Lords of the Counsell and further Grace and it is called by our Author An unbending themselves into a happy and just complyance with the seasonable desires of the people and mollifying the sharp Humours raised by the rigid Passages of former times 3. His not Disbanding the Irish Army Answered That the Irish Army was no sooner Disbanded was 1. upon point of Honour and Safety to this Kingdome whilst the Scots kept theirs on foot it was for neither to disband 2. for that Kingdome Had these men been sent into Spaine as was intended by the King and in good earnest sollicited by that Embassadour but opposed by the Parliament that place had been disburdened of so many Pests How doth it reflect upon the King if the Natives had another designe besides his I am sure the same Author confessed that the Natives were very unwilling that they should be sent into Spaine as much as the Parliament here 4. Their Pretences for the King Oaths c. Answered That they pretended to vindicate the King took an Oath of Allegiance to the King stiled themselves the Queens Army or in their Letters of Mart gave in charge to spare the Kings Ships 1. It is of no moment but to shew their cunning and care to maintain divisions among us under that Colour It is not long since we had such Protestations taken and enforced Our Armies at the beginning pretended to fight for
King Parliament c. And we have read of an old Stratagem of Hannibal to plunder and ravage all other mens Lands and Estates except those of Fabius whom he most hated that he might by that meanes nurse up a Jealousie in the people against him 5. The suspence of the Proclamations Answered That it was long ere the Proclamations were issued and but 40 neither against them 1. 'T was the advice of His Councell there who knew the state of that Kingdome better then our Parliament and who hoped as Sir Jo. Temple intimates that they might have been reclaimed by gentle means whilst rough and hard usage might have made them desperately persist in and grow to a greater head of violence 2. Besides that They thought it wisdome to doe more themselves by giving Armes even to the Papists of the pale by dissembling their knowledge that they had been of the Conspiracy from the beginning by forbearing Acts of Hostility even against professed Rebels in their Country by kind Invitations of them when they had actually imbrued their hands in the Massacre 6. The Earle of Leicester's Delay Answered 1. The Delay of the E. of Leicester was not His Majesties fault but the Parliaments for when His Majesty had given him Commission and Instructions which the Houses called for examined and could not quarrell at yet was his Lordship kept here six weeks after without any dispatch or supply answerable to that imployment Afterwards going from hence to Chester upon promise that necessary supply should be speeded after him he staid there five or six weeks without any In which time this unhappy war brake out and occasioned the King to send for him for some time 2. It would have been disadvantagious to the Conquest while his single Person not attended with a power answerable would have rendered the Condition of this Kingdome despicable and have encouraged the Rebels to more impetuous Resistence whereas being in suspence and expectation of a greater supply against them then he could have brought they went on with more Caution and a slower pace 3. At least it could be no more dammage to the service then it was to supersede his son the Lord Lisle from execution of his Commission and voyage thither untill the time of it was neer expir'd as themselves did 7. Divers officers going over by the Kings Passe Answered That divers Officers and Papists of quality went over into Ireland by help of the Kings owne hand-writing who there proved active Rebels 1. Hath been often answered by the King 2. Might be done to a good purpose many of them being publike Persons and making great protestations of Loyalty might have done good service in moderating the rest The Lords of the Councell gave to Papists not onely Commissions but Armes as you may read in Sir John Temple that so they might engage them 3. Might be done by misprision or be counterfeited I have been credibly informed that more then 40 Priests and desperate Rebels went over in one Regiment of their own sending from Chester and I am deceived if some Booke printed by Licence from themselves doe not declare as much Nay we know at this very present that Colonell J. Barry besides others a notable Adjutant and Papist is lately allowed by a Passe from their Generall to goe over into Ireland These times have taught us that any Hand or Passe may be so handsomely dissembled that it will prove a hard taske to discover the Cheat. 8. The Kings refusing to give Commissions to the Lorn Wharton and Brookes Answered That the King refused to give Commissions to the Lord Wharton and Brookes as also that he intercepted Cloathes and Ammunition sent thitherward may have good satisfaction As 1. The War was on foot here Those two Lords were his avowed Enemies and of the Junto against him There were divers Regiments raised under that pretence which were intended imployed against him He had been really as weake as once they would have made us believe he was if he had cut his own throat with his own hands enabled his Enemies to ruine him under what pretence soever 2. It was neatly contrived to assigne Cloaths and Ammunition for Ireland if they were surpriz'd but to imploy them against him if they could arive in safety to their strengths Lastly there was order given to release them by His Majesty 9. Letters to Muskery Answered 1. The Letters from Court to Muskery were from Taaff and they might be without Commission 2. If they were allowed was it not good Policy to court them into divisions or rather back againe into their Duties The Earle of Ormond a thing notoriously knowne by that meanes blew Coales between the Rebels when they had encircled and distressed Dublin wherein he prevailed more by putting on the Fox's skin then he could have done by that of the Lyon and preserved the English interest in all that Province which of necessity must otherwise have been lost 10. The With-drawing of the Ships Answered The King did indeed with-draw some Ships from those Coasts but 1. It was for his owne necessary defence against them when they had seiz'd upon the rest of his Navy 2. The Posts assign'd to the Ships were not so obnoxious for importation from Spaine and other forraine places 3. It was not so great an advantage to the Rebels as their with-drawing contrary to Articles the Ships appointed to prevent the landing of Irish in Scotland which they make a shift to answer their Brethren 4. Besides we see they can receive Ammunition and other supplies even now too 11. The Commission to Glamorgan Answered The greatest Objction of a Commission to the Earle of Glamorgan and Antrim to raise Armies for the service of the King To which we Answer 1. That it is not well cleared the King did give any such Commission 2. That if he did it was but the imploying of his owne Subjects in his service to which they were obliged by their Allegiance and he was bound by the very law of Nature to make use of 3. It was upon a desperate pinch that he was put unto by the two Houses Men will catch at the very Nailes of a Planke to save themselves from being ingulph'd in the Waves hold even by Thornes to keepe above water He were a weake man sure that would make conscience of quenching a great fire in his Roofe by the hands of Thieves or Murderers 4. We have often heard and many too of these great Accusers professe as much that they would cast themselves upon any Nation I have heard Colonell Morley and others should say upon the Turke rather then let the King subdue them And yet their Case was different The whole Charge retorted Let 's now see whether all this may not be retorted upon the House of Commons and their Confidents Whosoever will seriously consider 1. The quarrell which the Irish made namely their Liberty and Religion and Redresse of Grievances the very same which our Parliament