Selected quad for the lemma: lord_n
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B01385
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An answer by an Anabaptist to the three considerations proposed to Mr. William Penn, by a pretended Baptists, concerning a magna charta for liberty of conscience.
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1688
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Wing A3275A; ESTC R224289
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