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A51131 The case of Ireland's being bound by acts of Parliament in England stated by William Molyneux. Molyneux, William, 1656-1698. 1698 (1698) Wing M2402; ESTC R30063 64,004 194

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a_o ten_o or_o fifteen_o be_v grant_v by_o parliament_n in_o england_n that_o shall_v not_o bind_v ireland_n although_o the_o king_n shall_v send_v the_o same_o statute_n into_o ireland_n under_o his_o great_a seal_n except_o they_o in_o ireland_n will_v in_o their_o parliament_n approve_v it_o because_o they_o have_v not_o any_o commandment_n by_o writ_n to_o come_v to_o the_o parliament_n of_o england_n and_o this_o be_v not_o deny_v by_o markham_n yeluerton_n or_o ascough_n the_o merchant_n of_o waterford_n case_n case_n which_o i_o have_v observe_v before_o pag._n 90._o as_o report_a in_o the_o year_n book_n of_o the_o 2d_o of_o richard_n the_o 3d._a fol._n 11_o 12_o be_v notorious_a on_o our_o behalf_n but_o need_v not_o be_v here_o repeat_v the_o case_n of_o the_o prior_n of_o lanthony_n case_n in_o wales_n mention_v by_o mr._n pryn_n against_o the_o four_o inst._n ch_n 76._o p._n 313._o be_v usual_o cite_v against_o we_o but_o i_o conceive_v it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o prove_v this_o that_o it_o be_v very_o much_o in_o our_o behalf_n the_o case_n be_v brief_o thus_o the_o prior_n of_o lanthony_n bring_v a_o action_n in_o the_o com._n plea_n of_o ireland_n against_o the_o of_o prio_fw-la mollingar_fw-la for_o a_o arrear_n of_o a_o annuity_n and_o judgement_n go_v against_o the_o prior_n of_o mollingar_fw-la hereon_o the_o prior_n of_o mollingar_fw-la bring_v a_o writ_n of_o error_n in_o the_o king_n bench_n of_o ireland_n and_o the_o judgement_n be_v affirm_v then_o the_o prior_n of_o mollingar_fw-la appeal_v to_o the_o parliament_n in_o ireland_n hold_v 5_o hen._n 6._o before_o james_n butler_n earl_n of_o ormond_n and_o the_o parliament_n reverse_v both_o judgement_n the_o prior_n of_o lanthony_n remove_v all_o into_o the_o king_n bench_n in_o england_n but_o the_o king_n bench_n refuse_v to_o intermeddle_v as_o have_v no_o power_n over_o what_o have_v pass_v in_o the_o parliament_n of_o ireland_n hereupon_o the_o prior_n of_o lanthony_n appeal_v to_o the_o 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