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A66969
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The Protestants plea for a Socinian justifying his doctrine from being opposite to Scripture or church authority, and him from being guilty of heresie, or schism : in five conferences.
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R. H., 1609-1678.
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Wing W3451; ESTC R9786
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omnium_fw-la and_o joh._n 14.1_o creditis_fw-la in_o deum_fw-la &_o in_o i_o credit_n and_o v._o 28._o pater_fw-la meus_fw-la major_a i_o est_fw-la i_o say_v what_o more_o clear_a for_o prove_v the_o father_n his_o be_v the_o true_a most_o high_a god_n and_o exclude_v the_o other_o person_n the_o son_n or_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o be_v the_o very_a same_o god_n prot._n and_o 1._o what_o more_o clear_a on_o the_o other_o side_n than_o these_o text_n rom._n 9.5_o of_o who_o as_o concern_v the_o flesh_n christ_n come_v who_o be_v over_o all_o god_n bless_v for_o ever_o and_o tit._n 2.3_o the_o glorious_a appear_v of_o the_o great_a god_n and_o our_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n and_o 5.20_o and_o 1_o joh._n 5.20_o we_o be_v in_o he_o that_o be_v true_a even_o in_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n this_o be_v the_o true_a god_n and_o eternal_a life_n speak_v by_o st._n john_n the_o great_a vindicator_n against_o ebion_n cerinthus_n carpocrates_n and_o other_o in_o his_o time_n opposer_n of_o 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