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A88998 The picklock of the old Fenne project: or, Heads of Sir John Maynard his severall speeches, taken in short-hand, at the committee for Lincolneshire Fens, in the exchequer chamber. Consisting of matter of fact. Matter of law. Presidents quæres and answers. Maynard, John, Sir, 1602-1690. 1650 (1650) Wing M1457; Thomason E594_4; ESTC R206914 10,306 19

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