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A40610 A full discovery of the late fanatical plot in Scotland, or, The Deposition of Mr. William Carstares when he was examined before the Lords of Secret Committee given by him and renewed upon oath, upon the the 22 of December, 1684, in presence of the Lords of His Majesties Privy Council. Carstares, William, 1649-1715. 1685 (1685) Wing F2347; ESTC R215432 4,524 2

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A FULL DISCOVERY OF THE Late Fanatical PLOT IN SCOTLAND OR The Deposition of Mr. William Carstares when he was examined before the Lords of Secret Committee given in by him and renewed upon Oath upon the 22. of December 1684. in presence of the Lords of His Majesties Privy Council Edinburgh-Castle September 8. 1684. MR. William Carstares being Examin'd upon Oath conform to the Condescention given in by him and on the Terms therein mentioned Depons That about November or December 1682. James Stuart Brother to the Laird of Cultness wrot a Letter to him from Holland importing that if any considerable Sum of Money could be procured from England that something of importance might be done in Scotland The which Letter the Deponent had an inclination to inform Shepard in Ab●-Church-lane Merchant in London of but before he would do it he wrot to Mr. Stuart above-named to know from him if he might do it and Mr. Stuart having consented he Communicat the said Letter to Mr. Shepard who told the Deponent that he would Communicat the Contents of it to some persons in England but did at that time name no body as the Deponent thinks Some time thereafter Mr. Shepard told the Deponent that he had Communicat the Contents of the Letter above-named to Collonel Sidney and that Collonel Danvert was present and told the Deponent that Collonel Sidney was averse from imploying the late Earl of Argile or meddling with him judging him a man too much affected to the Royal Family and inclined to the present Church-Government yet Mr. Shepard being put upon it by the Deponent still urg'd that one might be sent to the Earl of Argile but as Mr. Shepard told him he was suspected upon the account of his urging so much yet afterwards he pressed without the Deponents knowledge that the Deponent being to go to Holland however might have some Commission to the Earl of Argile which he having informed the Deponent of the Deponent told him that he himself would not be concerned but if they would send another he would introduce him but nothing of this was done upon which the Deponent went over without any Commission from any body to Holland never meeting with James Stuart above-named He was introduced to the Earl of Argile with whom he had never before conversed and did there Discourse what had past betwixt Mr. Shepard and him and particularly about remitting of Money to the said Earl from England of which the said Mr. Stuart had written to the Deponent namely of 30000 pounds Sterling and of the raising of 1000 Horse and Dragoons and the securing the Castle of Edinburgh as a matter of the greatest importance The method of doing this was proposed by the Deponent to be one Hour or thereby after the relieving of the Guards But the Earl did not relish this Proposition as dangerous and that the Castles would fall of consequence after the work abroad was done James Stuart was of the Deponents Opinion for seizing the Castle because it would secure Edinburgh the Magazines and Arms as to the 1000 Horse and Dragoons My Lord Argile was of opinion that without them nothing was to be done and that if that number were raised in England to the said Earl he would come into Scotland with them and that there being so few Horse and Dragoons to meet them he judg'd he might get the Countrey without trouble having such a standing Body for their Friends to Rendezvouze to and the said Earl said he could show the Deponent the convenient places for Landing if he understood and as the Deponent remembers where the Ships could attend The Deponent remembers not the names of the places The Deponent spoke to the Lord Stairs but cannot be positive that he named the Affair to him but found him shy but the Earl of Argile told him he thought Stairs might be gain'd to them And that the Earl of Lowdoun being a man of good Reason and disoblig'd would have great influence upon the Country and recommended the Deponent to Major Holms with whom the Deponent had some acquaintance before and had brought over a Letter from him to the Earl of Argile but the Deponent had not then communicate any thing to the said Holms James S●uart laid down a way of correspondence by Cyphers and false Names and sent them over to Holms and the Deponent for their use which Cyphers and Names are now in the hands of His Majesty's Officers as the Deponent supposes and did desire the Deponent earnestly to propose the 30000. pound Sterling above-named to the Party in England and did not propose any less for as the Earl told the Deponent he had particularly calculate the Expence for Arms Ammunition c. But James Stuart said that if some less could be had the Earl would content himself if better might not be but the Earl always said that there was nothing to be done without the body of Horse and Dragoons above mentioned During the time of the Deponent his abode in Holland tho he had several Letters from Shepard yet there was no satisfactory account till some time after the Deponent parted from the Earl of Argyle and was making for a Ship at Roterdam to transport himself to England James Stuart wrot to him that there was hopes of the Money The next day after the Deponent came to England he met with Sir John Cochran who with Commissar Monro and Jervisw●od was at London before he came over and depons that he knows not the account of their coming more than for the perfecting the Transaction about Carolina and having acquainted Sir John Cochran with the Earls demands of the 30000. pound Sterling and the 1000. Horse and Dragoons Sir John carried him to the Lord Russel to whom the Deponent proposed the Affair but being an absolute Stranger to the Deponent had no return from him at that time but afterwards having met him accidently at Mr. Shepards house where he the Lord Russel had come to speak to Shepard about the Money above named as Mr. Shepard told the Deponent The Deponent when they were done speaking desired to speak to the Lord Russel which the Lord Russel did and having reiterate the former Proposition for the 30000. pound Sterling and the 1000. Horse and Dragoons he the Lord Russel told the Deponent they could not get so much raised at the time but if they had 10000. pound to begin that would draw People in and when they were once in they would soon be brought to more but as for the 1000. Horse and Dragoons he could say nothing at the present for that behoved to be concerted upon the Borders The Deponent made the same proposal to Mr. Ferguson who wa● 〈◊〉 ●oncerned in the Affair and zealous for the promo●ing of it This Mr. Ferguson had in October or November before as the Deponent remembers in a Conversati●●●ith the Deponent in Cheap-side or the Street somewhere thereabout said that for the saving of innocent Blood it would