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B08976 The Earl of Pembrokes speech in the House of Peers, when the seven lords were accused of high-treason / copia vera, Mic. Oldsworth. Pembroke, Philip Herbert, Earl of, 1584-1650.; Oldisworth, Michael, 1591-1654? 1690 (1690) Wing E79B; ESTC R218781 4,622 4

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THE EARL of PEMBROKES SPEECH IN THE HOUSE of PEERS When the Seven Lords were accused of High-Treason Copia vera MIC OLDSWORTH My Lords YOu know I seldom make Speeches yet my Lords every thing would live and now I must either find a Tongue or lose my Head I am accus'd for sitting here when your Lordships fled to the Army Alas my Lords I am an old man I must sit you may ride or run any whither but I am an old man You voted them Traytors who left the House and went to York they told us then they were forc'd away by Tumults Do not You say so too were they Traytors for going and am I a Traytor for staying 's Death my Lords what would you have me do hereafter I 'le neither go nor stay I have served you 7 years what have you given me unless part of a Thanksgiving Dinner for which you made me fast once a Month I was fed like a Prince at the KING' 's cost twice every day long before some of you were born and this KING continued nay out-did his Father in heaping favours upon me Yet for your sakes I renounc'd my Master when he had most need of me voted against him swore against him hired men to fight against him I confess I my self never struck at him nor shot at him but I prayed for those that did I gave my Tenants their Leases Fine-free if they would rise and resist the KING And yet my Lords after all this must I be a Traytor Have I not sworn for you over and over again You sent me on your Errands to Oxford to Vxbridge to Newcastle to Holdenby you hurried me up and down as if I had been a King You made me carry a world of Propositions I brought them all safe and sound what you bad me say I spake to a syllable and had the KING ask'd me how old I was without your Commission I should not have told him and yet my Lords I am an old man Remember how I stuck to you against Strafford and Canterbury some of you shrunk at Strafford's Tryal that your Names were like to be posted with Malignants and for Canterbury many of you would have had him live my Lord of Northumberland and others would have no hand in his Blood but I gave you the casting voice which sent him packing into another World and yet now would you send me after him Have I not sate with you early and late When the Parliament tumbled and tossed and rolled it self on this side and on that side still I was for the Parliament though I staid here with Presbyterian Lords yet when you return'd I was firm for you All the other Lords left you in the House when Sir Thomas's Chaplain gave thanks for your return but I staid and pray'd with you and am for ought I know as great an Independent as any of you all I rejoyced with you fasted sung Psalms prayed with you and hereafter will run away with ye Nay I had done it now but who knew your minds If ye meant I should follow ye why did ye not wink upon me Think ye I could run away by instinct My Lords you know I love Dogs and though I say it I thank God I have as good Dogs as any man in England now my Lords if a Dog follow me when I do not call him I bid him be gone if I call him and he comes not then I beat him but if I beat him for not coming when I never call'd him you 'l think me mad 's Death my Lords 'T is a poor Dog is not worth the whistling But perhaps my fault is not meer staying here but being active in your absence because in my Robes and Collar of SS I brought up Mr. Pelham the Commons new Speaker why what if I did Is not Mr. Pelham my own Cousin would your Lordships have me uncivil to my kindred why might not I entertain the new Speaker as well as Sir Robert Harley intreat us to admit him Mr. Pelham is none of Sir Robert's Cousin and yet Sir Robert is an old man I hear some say that I was forward to begin a new War that my Hand is to all the Warrants for listing Men and Horse and in order thereunto I voted His Majesty should come to London 'T is true my Lords I did give my Vote for the KING 's coming hither but wherefore was it 't was onely to come to chuse a new Speaker what would ye have us dumb and sit here like Ferrets My Lords I love to hear men speak and all the Lawyers told me No King no Speaker that either the Commons must name their Speaker and the KING approve him or the KING name him and the Commons approve him no King no Speaker And so I was for the King that is for the Speaker Then my Lords observe the manner of his coming the KING was to come according to the Covenant mark ye that I was still for my Oaths let him come when he will if the Covenant fetch him he had as good stay away And yet men cry shame on the Covenant those that took it do cast it up again and those that refuse it have given a world of Arguments that it is unreasonable which reasons our Assembly like a Company of Rascals never yet answer'd I know my Lords many of our Friends never took this Oath but they refus'd it out of meer Conscience shall Malignants Consciences be as tender as ours why what do they think our Consciences are made of But my Lords suppose this Oath be unreasonable can we do nothing but we must give reason for it this is as bad as the House of Commons who when we deny to pass any Ordinance presently send to know our reasons though themselves give no reasons for demanding ours And so Malignants would have reasonable Oaths only here 's the difference the House of Commons do use to demand Reasons and Malignants desire to be suffer'd to give Reasons My Lords I love not this giving of reasons though I hold the Covenant is extreme reasonable for as some Malignants take it to save their estates so we give it to make them lose their estates both love the estate and both hate the Covenant Thus my Lords we have Reason for this Oath and Your Lordships have No Reason to make me a Traytor while I give my Vote according to the Covenant As for signing Warrants to raise a New War I wonder you 'l speak of it have not you all done it a hundred times how many Reams of Paper have we subscrib'd to raise Forces for King and Parliament 'T is known I can scarce write a word besides my Name Cannot a Man write his own Name without losing his Head If I must give account for what I set my hand to Lord have mercy upon me I see now my Grandfather was a wise Man he could neither write nor read and happy for me if I were so too Come
come my Lords be plain and tell me do I look like one that would raise a New War I must confess I love a good Army but if there be none till I raise it Soldiers of Fortune may change their Names No my Lords 't was not I 't was the Eleven Members would have rais'd a War you see they were guilty by their running away I neither ran with them nor with you I do not like this running away I love to stay by it and whether was for War I that stayed in Town or You that went to an Army The Devil of Horse did I list but in my New Coach nor used any Harness but my Collar of S-S And will you for this clap me in the Tower You sent me thither six years since for but handling a Standish and now you 'l commit me for writing my Name what my Lords do you hate Learning Can you not end or begin a Parliament without sending me to the Tower Do your Lordships mean to make me a Lord Mayor If I needs must go I pray you send me home to Baynard's Castle or Durham House a damnable Fire burnt my House at Wilton just that hour I mov'd Your Lordships to drive Malignants out of London But why to the Tower am I company for Lyons do you think me a Cattamountain fit to be shown through a Grate for two pence No my Lords keep the Tower for Malignants they can endure it some of them have been Prisoners 7 years they can feed upon bare Allegiance please themselves with Discourses of Conscience of Honour of a Righteous Cause and I know not what But what 's this to me How will those Malignants look upon me nay how shall I look upon them I confess some of them love my Son's company they say he 's more a Gentleman and has wit 'sDeath my Lords must I now turn Gentleman I thought I had been a Peer of the Realm and am I now a Gentleman Let my Son keep his Wit his poor Father ne're got two pence by his Wit Alas my Lords what hurt can I do you Or what good will it do you to have my Head I am but a Ward my Lord Say hath dispos'd of me these seven years I am no Lawyer though the Littletons call me Cousin I am no Scholar though I have been their Chancellour I am no States-man though I was a Privy-Counsellour I know not what you mean by the Three Estates Last June the Army demanded a Release for Lilburne Musgrove and Overton I thought They were the Three Estates I thank God I have a good Estate of my own and I have the Estates of my Lord Bayning's Children and I have my Lord of Carnarvan's Estate these are my Three Estates And yet my Lords must I to the Tower Consider we are but a few Lords left come let 's love and be kind to one another The Cavaliers quarrell'd among themselves beat one another and lost all Let Us be wiser my Lords for had we fallen into their condition my Conscience tells me we had look'd most wofully I perceive Your Lordships begin to think better of me and I hear you would quit me if I were not charg'd by the Agitators and General Council of the Army How Agitator 'sDeath what 's that Who ever heard that word before I understand Classical Provincial Congregational National but for Agitator it may for ought I know be a Knave not worth three pence If Agitators cut Noble-men's throats you 'l find the Devil has been an Agitator As for the General Council I hate the Name of it 't is old and naught and us'd to be full of Bishops those fellows have troubled us ever since the Apostles I thought we had made 'em poor enough and is their Name come again to torment me My Lords I understand not these General Councils those of old they say were Christians and these are Independents What a damnable deal of Generalling is here General Assembly General of the Army General Council of the Army we never had quiet hour since we had so many Generals Well my Lords these are hard times and we make them worse with hard words which neither we nor our Fathers understood Heretofore Bishops went Jure Divino then Elders would be Jure Divino and now Agitators will be Jure Divino Dam me I think nothing is Jure Divino but God Call you this a through Reformation what betwixt the Assemblers and the Agitators I am reform'd to meer skin and bone My Lords if these ' tators must rule the Kingdom why are not we our selves Agitators why may not I make Oldsworth an Agitator His abilities and honesty are equal to most of ' em But for ought I see Agitators will sooner be Earls of Pembroke and Montgomery than we Agitators for the Parliament leads the People the Army leads the Parliament Sir Thomas leads the Army Cromwel leads Sir Thomas Ireton leads Cromwel Agitators will lead Ireton whither the Devil shall we all be led at last My Lords ye see I have spoke my mind I hope every week some of your Lordships will do the like and the Commons in this though in nothing else will follow the House of Peers But I have done I have done my Lords Remember I beseech you I am an old man I have been a Grandfather time out of mind for I was so when this Parliament began and now must I be food for Agitators O my Lords I have used the KING so ill and He lov'd me so well and I have serv'd you so well and you use me so ill that no man is sorry for me Therefore my Request is that you would not think of sending me to the Tower 'till some body pities me FINIS