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A59093 The reverse or back-face of the English Janus to-wit, all that is met with in story concerning the common and statute-law of English Britanny, from the first memoirs of the two nations, to the decease of King Henry II. set down and tackt together succinctly by way of narrative : designed, devoted and dedicated to the most illustrious the Earl of Salisbury / written in Latin by John Selden ... ; and rendred into English by Redman Westcot, Gent.; Jani Anglorum facies altera. English Selden, John, 1584-1654.; Littleton, Adam, 1627-1694.; White, Robert, 1645-1703. 1682 (1682) Wing S2436; ESTC R14398 136,793 167

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JOHANNES SELDEN●S Armig. R. White sculpsit THE Reverse or Back-face OF THE English JANUS TO-WIT All that is met with in STORY Concerning the COMMON AND STATUTE-LAW OF English Britanny From the first MEMOIRS of the two NATIONS to the Decease of King HENRY II. set down and tackt together succinctly by way of Narrative Designed Devoted and Dedicated to the most Illustrious the EARL of SALISBURY Written in Latin by JOHN SELDEN of Salvinton Student of the Inner-Temple in LONDON and Rendred into English by REDMAN WESTCOT Gent. Haec facies Populum spectat at illa Larem London Printed for Thomas Basset and Richard Chiswell MDCLXXXII To the Right Honourable and truly Noble Lord Robert Earl of Salisbury Viscount Cranborn Baron Cecil of Essenden Knight of the Illustrious Order of the Garter Lord High Treasurer of England Master of the Court of Wards and Privy Counsellor to His Most Excellent Majesty JAMES King of Great Britain France and Ireland Heartily according to his high desert I devote and dedicate AND as it were with consecrated Flowr and crackling grain of Salt I offer up in Sacrifice I am not in condition to do it with a costly Victim or a full Censer GREAT SIR deign with favour to receive these scraps of Collection relating intirely what they are and as far as the present Age may be supposed to be concerned in ancient Stories and Customes to the English-British State and Government and so far forth to Your most Honoured Name Which Name of Yours whilest I one of the lowermost Bench do with dazzled eye-sight look upon most Noble Lord and great Support of your Country I devoutly lay down Upon its ALTAR This small Earnest and Pledge of my Obedience and Duty THE TRANSLATOR'S PREFACE TO THE READER Reader THOU canst not be such a Stranger to thy own Countrey as to need my commendation of the Learned Worthy and Famous AUTHOR of these following Sheets or that I should tell thee what a Scholar a Philologer a Humanist a Linguist a Lawyer a Critick an Antiquary and which proves him an absolute Master of all these and many other Knowledges what a Writer the Great SELDEN was Since it is liberally acknowledged by every body that knows any thing not only at home but abroad also among Foreigners that Europe seldom hath brought forth His Fellow for exquisite Endowments of Nature Attainments of Study and Accomplishments of Ingenuity Sagacity and Industry And indeed to save me the labour of saying any more concerning this Non-pareil in all kinds of Learning His own WORKS which are now under a Review and will e're long be made Publick in several Volumes will sufficiently speak his Character and be a more prevailing Argument to indear Him to thy good Opinion and firm Acquaintance than mine or any other Words can My business now is only to give thee some Account of the Author's design in this little Treatise and of those measures I took in Translating Him that is in restoring him to his own Native Language though his great Genius had made the Latin and several other Tongues as natural and familiar to Himself as the English was To speak first of the Author I do take this Piece to have been one of his first Essays if not the very first wherein he launched into the World and did not so much try the Judgement as deservedly gain the Approbation of the Learned which was certainly one Reason why though the whole matter of the Book be of an English Complexion and Concern yet he thought fit to put it forth in a Latin dress That this was his first Specimen or at least one of the first I gather from the time of his Writing it viz. in the Six and Twentieth year of his Age when I suppose he was not of any very long standing in the Temple I mean in all likelihood whilst he was on this side the Bar. For having fraught himself with all kind of Learning which the University could afford him which could be we must imagine no small time neither as I may be allowed to guess from that passage of his in this Book where he so affectionately recognizeth his Duty and Gratitude to his dear Mother OXFORD who if she had no other Antiquity to boast of is and ever will be Famous for This Her Scholar our great Antiquary who hath also such a Monument to be seen in her publick Library as will make her Glory and his Memory ever to flourish I say having after some competent time taken leave of Academical Institutions and being now engaged into the Study of Law he thought he could not do his Profession a better service than by looking back into former times and making a faithful Collection of what might be Pertinent and Useful to bring down along through all Changes and Vicissitudes of State the Light and Strength the Evidence and Reputation of old Institutes and Precedents to our present Establishments under our Gracious and Happy Monarchy May It as it is in its Constitution to the English people Gracious so be ever in its Success to It self and consequently to Us all Happy Here then thou wilt find the Rights of Government through all Ages so far as our Histories will help us Here thou wilt see from the first our KING setled in his just Power even in his Ecclesiastical surisdiction against the Papal Usurpation one shrewd Instance whereof is the forbidding Appeals to the Pope at such a time when the Popish Religion was at its Zenith in this Island that is when People in all probability were most Ignorant Here thou wilt easily be brought to acknowledge the Antiquity and Usefulness of Parliaments though under other Names till after the Conquest when all the Barons that is as that Title did at first import all Lords of Mannors all Men of Estate assembled together for the determination of publick Affairs which Usage because it produced too numerous and cumbersome a confluence was afterwards for better convenience retrenched into a popular Election by the Kings Writ to chuse some of the Chiefest to act for all the rest And sure enough if we in Duty keep up the Royal Prerogative and our Kings as ever they have done and ever I hope will in Grace and Clemency oblige the Peoples Consent in their Representatives we shall alwayes have such Laws such a Government such a Correspondence betwixt Prince and Subjects as must according to the Rules of Humane Prudence adding our Piety to it make this Kingdom of Great Britanny maugre the malice of the Devil and his Agents whatever Jesuits or Fanaticks a flourishing and impregnable Kingdom Having said this in General of the Author's design I shall not descend to Particulars which I leave to thy self Reader to find out in the perusal that may be of good Use and great Consequence to the Publick but fearing thou maist think I am so much taken up with the Author that I have forgot My self I have two or three words to
the Arch-Bishop and if the Arch-Bishop shall be wanting in doing of Justice they must come in the last place to our Lord the King that by his precept or order the Controversie may be determined in the Arch-Bishops Court so as that it ought not to proceed any further without the Kings assent This Law long since the famous Sir Edward Coke made use of to assert and maintain the Kings Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction as a thing not of late taken up by him but anciently to him belonging 54. If a Claim or Suit shall arise betwixt a Clergyman and a Lay-man or betwixt a Layman and a Clergyman concerning any Tenement which the Clergyman would draw to the Church and the Lay-man to a Lay-fee it shall by the recognizance of twelve legal men upon the consideration and advisement of the Lord Chief Justice be determined whether the Tenement do appertain to Alms i. e. to the Church or to Lay-Estate before the Kings own Justice And if it shall be recognized or adjudged to appertain to Alms it shall be a Plea in the Ecclesiastical Court But if to a Lay-fee unless they both avow or avouch the Tenement from the same Bishop or Baron it shall be a Plea in the Kings Court But if each of them shall for that fee avouch the same Bishop or ●aron it shall be a Plea in that Bishops or Barons Court so that he who was formerly seised shall not by reason of the Recognizance made lose the Seisin till it shall by Plea be deraigned 55. He who shall be of a City or a Castle or a Burrough or a Manner of the Kings Domain if he shall be cited by an Arch-Deacon or a Bishop upon any misdemeanour upon which he ought to make answer to him and refuse to satisfie upon their summons or citations they may well and lawfully put him under an Interdict or Prohibition but he ought not to be Excommunicated By the way seasonably remark out of the Pontificial Law that that Excommunication they call the greater removes a man and turns him out from the very Communion and Fellowship of the Faithful and that an Interdict as the lesser Excommunication separates a man and lays him aside only forbidding him to be present at Divine Offices and the use of the Sacraments I say he ought not to be Excommunicated before that the Kings Chief Justice of that Village or City be spoken with that he may order him to come to satisfaction And if the Kings Justice fail therein he shall be at the Kings mercy and thereupon or after that the Bishop may punish him upon his impleadment with the Justice of the Church 56. Arch-Bishops Bishops and all Persons whatsoever of the Kingdom who hold of the King in capite and have their possessions from our Lord the King in nature of a Barony and thereupon make answer to the Kings Justices and Officers and perform all Rights and Customs due to the King as other Barons do they ought to be present at the Tryals of the Court of our Lord the King with his Barons until the losing of Limbs or death be adjudged to the party tried 57. When an Arch-Bishoprick or Bishoprick or Abbacy or Priory of the Kings Domain shall be void it ought to be in his hand and thereof shall he receive all the profits and issues as belonging to his Domain And when the Church is to be provided for our Lord the King is to order some choice persons of the Church and the Election is to be made in the Kings own Chappel by the assent of our Lord the King and by the advice of those persons of the Kingdom whom he shall call for that purpose and there shall the Person Elect saving his order before he be Consecrated do Homage and Fealty to our Lord the King as to his Liege Lord for his life and limbs and for his Earthly Honour 58. If any one of the Nobles or Peers do deforce to do Justice to an Arch-Bishop Bishop or Arch-Deacon for themselves or those that belong to them the King in this case is to do justice 59. If peradventure any one shall deforce to the Lord the King his Right the Arch-Bishop Bishop and Arch-Deacon ought then in that case to do justice or to take a course with him that he may give the King satisfaction 60. The Chattels of those who are in the Kings forfeit let not the Church or Church-yard detain or keep back against the justice of the King because they are the Kings own whether they shall be found in Churches or without 61. Pleas of debts which are owing either with security given or without giving security let them be in the Kings Court. 62. The Sons of Yeomen or Country people ought not to be ordained or go into holy Orders without the assent of the Lord of whose Land they are known to have been born CHAP. XII The Statutes of Clarendon mis-reported in Matthew Paris amended in Quadrilegus These Laws occasioned a Quarrel between the King and Thomas a Becket Witness Robert of Glocester whom he calls Yumen The same as Rusticks i. e. Villains Why a Bishop of Dublin called Scorch-Uillein Villanage before the Normans time I Confess there is a great difference between these Laws and the Statutes of Clarendon put forth in the larger History of Matthew Paris I mean those mangled ones and in some places what through great gaps of sence disjointings of Sentences and misplacings of words much depraved ones whose misfortune I ascribe to the carelesness of Transcribers But the latter end of a Manuscript Book commonly called Quadrilegus wherein the Life of Thomas Arch Bishop of Canterbury is out of four Writers to wit Hubert of Boseham John of Salisbury William of Canterbury and Alan Abbot of Tewksbury digested into one Volume hath holp us to them amended as you may see here and set to rights It is none of our business to touch upon those quarrels which arose upon the account of these Laws betwixt the King and Thomas of Canterbury Our Historians do sufficiently declare them In the mean time may our Poet of Glocester have leave to return upon the Stage and may his Verses written in ancient Dialect comprising the matter which we have in hand be favourably entertained No man ne might thenche the love that there was Bitwene the K. H. and the good man S. Thomas The diuel had enui therto and sed bitwen them feu Alas alas thulke stond vor all to well it greu Uor there had ere ibe kings of Luther dede As W. Bastard and his son W. the rede That Luther Laws made inou and held in al the lond The K. nold not beleue the lawes that he fond Ne that his elderne hulde ne the godeman S. Thomas Thought that thing age right neuer law nas Ne sothnes and custom mid strength up i●old And he wist that vre dere Lourd in the Gospel told That he himselfe was sothnes and custum nought Theruore Luther custumes
Pledge i. e. having a free Tenure let his heirs remain in such Seisin as their Father had on the day he was alive and dyed of his fee and let them have his Chattels out of which they may make also the devise or partition of the deceased that is the sharing of his goods according to his will and afterwards may require of their Lord and do for their relief and other things which they ought to do as touching their Fee i. e. in order to their entring upon the estate 71. If the heir be under age let the Lord of the Fee take his homage and have him in custody or keeping for as long time as he ought let the other Lords if there be more of them take his homage and let him do to them that which he ought to do 72. Let the Wife of the deceased have her Dowry and that part of his Chattels which of right comes to her In former times peradventure it was a like generally practised by the English that the Wife and Children should have each their lawful Thirds of the estate each of them I say if they were in being but half to the Wife if there were no issue and as much to the Children if the Wife did not survive her Husband as it was practised by the Romans of old according to the Falcidian Law and of later time by the Novells of Justinian that they should have their Quarter part For I see that those of Normandy of Arras of Ireland people that lay round about them had the same custom Of this you are to see Glanvill Bracton the Register of Briefs or Writs and William Lindwood beside the Records or yearly Reports of our Law 73. Let the Justices take the Fealties of our Lord the King before the close of Easter and at furthest before the close of Pentecost namely of all Earls Barons Knights and Free-holders and even of Rusticks or Vassals such as have a mind to stay in the Realm and he who will not do featly let him be taken into custody as an enemy of our Lord the King 74. The Justices have also this to give in charge that all those who have not as yet done their homage and allegiance to our Lord the King do at a term of time which they shall name to them come in and do homage and allegiance to the King as to their Liege Lord. 75. Let the Justices do all acts of Justice and rights belonging to our Lord the King by a Writ of our Lord the King or of them who shall be in his place or stead as to a half-Knights fee and under a Knights ' fee in an old Book which pretends to more antiquity by far than it ought concerning the manner of holding Parliaments is said to be twenty pounds worth of Land in yearly revenue but the number prefixt before the Red Book of the Exchequer goes at the rate of Six Hundred and Eighty Acres unless the complaint be of that great concern that it cannot be determined without our Lord the King or of that nature that the Justices by reason of their own doubting refer it to him or to those who shall be in his place and stead Nevertheless let them to the utmost of their ability intend and endeavour the service and advantage of our Lord the King 76. Let the Justices provide and take care that the Castles already demolisht be utterly demolished and that those that are to be demolished be well levelled to the ground And if they shall not do this our Lord the King may please to have the judgement of his Court against them as against those who shew contempt of his Precept 77. A Thief or Robber as soon as he is taken let him be put into the Sheriffs hands to be kept in safe custody and if the Sheriff shall be out of the way let him be carried or brought to the next Constable of a Castle and let him have him in custody until he deliver him up to the Sheriff 78. Let the Justices according to the custom of the Land cause inquiry to be made of those who have departed or gone out of the Realm And if they shall refuse to return within a term of time that shall be named and to stand to right in the Kings Court i. e. to make their appearance and there to answer if any thing shall be brought in against them let them after that be outlawed and the names of the Outlaws be brought at Easter and at the Feast of St. Michael to the Exchequer and from thence be sent to our Lord the King These Laws were agreed upon at Northampton CHAP. XVIII Some Laws in favour of the Clergy Of forfeitures on the account of Forest or hunting Of Knights fees Who to bear Arms and what Arms. Arms not to be alienated No Jew to bear Arms. Arms not to be carryed out of England Rich men under suspicion to clear themselves by Oath Who allowed to swear against a Free-man Timber for building of Ships not to be carryed out of England None but Free-men to bear Arms. Free-men who Rusticks or Villains not such 79. THat henceforth a Clergy-man be not dragg'd and drawn before a Secular Judge personally for any crime or transgression unless it be for Forest or a Lay-fee out of which a Lay-service is due to the King or to some other Secular Lord. This priviledge of the Clergy the King granted to Hugh the Popes Cardinal Legate by the Title of S. Michael à Petra who arrived here on purpose to advance the Popish interest 80. Furthermore that Arch-Bishopricks Bishopricks or Abbacies be not held in the Kings hand above a year unless there be an evident cause or an urgent necessity for it 81. That the Murderers or Slayers of Clergy-men being convicted or having confest before a Justice or Judge of the Realm be punished in the presence of the Bishop 82. That Clergy-men be not obliged to make Duel i. e. not to clear themselves as others upon some occasion did by single combat 83. He ordained at Woodstock we transcribe these words out of Hoveden that whosoever should make a forfeit to him concerning his Forest or his hunting once he should be tyed to find safe Pledges or Sureties and if he should make a second forfeit in like manner safe Pledges should be taken of him but if the same person should forfeit the third time then for his third forfeit no pledges should be taken but the proper body of him who made the forfeit Moreover we meet with these Military Laws or Laws of Knights fees made for Tenants and other people of the common sort 84. He who hath one Knights fee 't is the aforesaid Hoveden speaks let him have an Habergeon or Coat of Male and a Helmet or Head piece and a Buckler or Target and a Lance and let every Knight have so many Habergeons and Helmets and Targets and Lances as he shall have Knights fees in his demeans 85.
Besides is it rational to imagine that the King whose absolute right by Law it is to convene the Estates when and where he thinks fit to call and dissolve Parliaments as he pleases in a word that He in whose Name all Justice is administred in whose Hands the Militia is and by whose Authority alone the Subjects can take up Arms should stand only in a Co-ordination of power with any other persons whatsoever or however assembled or associated within his Dominions This flaw I could not but take notice of in our Great Author and that only with an intention to undeceive the unwary Reader and not to reflect upon his Memory who though he kept along a great while with the Long Parliament yet never appeared in action for them that ever I heard much less used or owned that virulence and violence which many others of that ill Body of men judged necessary for their proceedings CHAP. XX. Pag. 96. lin 15. Alderman of England The word Alderman in Saxon Ealdorman hath various acceptions so as to signifie all sorts almost of Governours and Magistrates So Matth. 20. 25. the Princes of the Gentiles in the Saxon translation are called Ealdormen and Holofernes I remember the General of the Assyrian Army is in an Old English Translation called the Alderman of the Army So Aethelstan whose younger Son this Ailwin was being Duke or Captain General of the East-Saxons is in this Book of Ramsey styled Alderman The most proper importance of the word bears up with the Latin Senator i. e. Parliament-man as the Laws of S. Edward make out In like manner say they heretofore among the Britons in the times of the Romans in this Kingdom of Britanny they were called Senators who afterwards in the times of the Saxons were called Aldermen not so much in respect of their Age as by reason of their Wisdom and Dignity in that some of them were but young men yet were skilled in the Law and beside that were experienced persons Now that Alderman of England as Ailwin here was had to do in affairs of Justice appears by the foresaid Book of Ramsey where it is said that Ailwin the Alderman and Aedric the Kings Provost sate Judges in a certain Court The Alderman of the County our Author makes to be the same as the Earl or Lord of the County and Spelman saith it is hard to distinguish but at length placeth him in the middle betwixt the Count and Viscount He and the Bishop kept Court together the one for Temporals the other for Spirituals The Title goes lower still to denote a Mayor or Bailiff of a Corporation a Bailiff of a Hundred c. Lin. 30. Healf-koning It was an oversight or slip of memory in our Author to say that Ailwin was so called when the Book of Ramsey tells us it was his Father Aethelstan who was of that great power and diligence that all the business of the Kingdom went through his hands and was managed as he pleased that had that Nick name given him therefore Lin. 36. The Graves Our Author makes them subordinate to the Aldermen of Counties but in the Laws of the Confessor they appear to be muchwhat the same There we read And as they are now called Greves who are put in places of Rule over others so they were anciently among the English called Ealdermen Indeed the word Greve or Reev for it is all one is of as various use as that other of Alderman is In Saxon it is gerefa from gerefen and reafen to take or carry away to exact or gather Whence this Officer Graphio or Gravius from the Saxon is in other Latin called Exactor regius and by reason that the Sheriff gathered the Kings Fines and other Duties and returned them to the Exchequer he was called the Shire-greve or Shire-reev that is the Gatherer of the County But the truth is that Greve or Reev came at last in general to signifie any Ruler or Governour set over any place almost whatever as the same word Grave doth among the Dutch So a Shire-greve or bihgerefa the High Sheriff of a County a Port-greve the Governour of a City or Port. So the Lord Mayor of London was called formerly Tun-greve the Bailiff of a Town or Mannor Sometime Greve is taken for a Count or Earl as Alderman is CHAP. XXI Pag. 98. lin 22. For Toll and Gabell In the Latin pro theolonio gablo Now telonium from the Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 properly signifies the place where the Officers of the Customs receive the Kings duties but is used also for a duty paid for the maintenance of Bridges and River-Banks So Hotoman But in our Law it is taken for the Toll of a Market or Fair. And Gablum or Gabellum a Gabell from the Saxon gafol or gafel signifies any Impost upon Goods as that in France upon Salt c. also Tribute Custom any kind of Tax or Payment c. Lin. 32. Through the Streets of Coventry There is a famous Tradition among the people of that Town concerning this matter that the Lady being to ride naked only covered all over with her hair had given order for the more decent performance of her Procession that all the Inhabitants should that day keep their Shops and Doors and Windows shut But that two men tempted by their Curiosity to do what fools are wont to do had some such penalty I know not what it was inflicted upon them as Actaon had for the like offence And they now stand in some publick place cut out of Wood or Stone to be shewn to any stranger that comes thither like the Sign of the Two Logger-heads with the same Motto belike Nous sommes trois Pag. 99. lin 7. Brought in my Court a certain Toper In the Latin attulit in curiâ meâ quandam Toper I know what the adverb Toper signifies among the ancient Latines but what the word means here I confess I am in the dark It doth certainly stand for some thing I was thinking a Taper which he brought with him into Court and sware upon it as he should have done upon the holy Gospels I cannot imagine that by quandam Toper shold be intended some Woman or Girl whose Name was Toper whom he brought along with him and in defiance to the Court laying his hand upon her took his Oath as formally as if he had done it upon the holy Evangelists Reader ONe thing I forgot to acquaint thee with in the Preface that whereas the Author himself had divided each Book into several Sections which were very unequal and incommodious I thought it much more convenient for thy ease and profit to distribute them into Chapters together with the Argument or Contents of each Chapter at the beginning and withal that no one may complain that I have injured the Author by altering his Method I have left his Sections also marked with a Numeral Note 1 2 3 c. on the side of the inner or outer Margin
on foot The Roman Laws brought in but disowned An instance in the Wonder-working Parliament p. 67 CHAP. X. In King Henry the Seconds time the Castles demolished A Parliament held at Clarendon Of the Advowson and Presentation of Churches Estates not to be given to Monasteries without the Kings leave Clergymen to answer in the Kings Court A Clergyman convict out of the Churches Protection None to go out of the Realm without the Kings leave This Repealed by King John Excommunicate Persons to find Surety Laymen how to be impleaded in the Ecclesiastical Court A Lay-Jury to swear there in what case No Homager or Officer of the Kings to be Excommunicated till He or his Justice be acquainted p. 69 CHAP. XI Other Laws of Church affairs Concerning Appeals A Suit betwixt a Clergy-man and a Lay-man where to be tryed In what case one who relates to the King may be put under an Interdict The difference betwixt that and Excommunication Bishops to be present at the Tryals of Criminals until Sentence of Death c. pass Profits of vacant Bishopricks c. belong to the King The next Bishop to be chosen in the Kings Chappel and to do Homage before Consecration Deforcements to the Bishop to be righted by the King And on the contrary Chattels forfeit to the King not to be detained by the Church Pleas of debts whatsoever in the Kings Court Yeomens Sons not to go into Orders without the Lords leave p. 72 CHAP. XII The Statutes of Clarendon mis-reported in Matthew Paris amended in Quadrilegus These Laws occasioned a Quarrel between the King and Thomas a Becket Witness Robert of Glocester whom he calls Yumen The same as Rusticks i. e. Villains Why a Bishop of Dublin called Scorch-Uillein Villanage before the Normans time p. 74 CHAP. XIII The Poet gives account which of those Laws were granted by Thomas a Becket which withstood Leudemen signifies Lay-men and more generally all illiterate Persons p. 77 CHAP. XIV The Pope absolves Thomas a Becket from his Oath and damns the Laws of Clarendon The King resents it writes to his Sheriffs Orders a Seisure Penalties inflicted on Kindred He provides against an Interdict from Rome He summons the Bishops of London and Norwich An account of Peter Pence p. 79 CHAP. XV. A Parliament at Northampton Six Circuits ordered A List of the then Justices The Jury to be of twelve Knights Several sorts of Knights In what cases Honorary Knights to serve in Juries Those who come to Parliament by right of Peerage sit as Barons Those who come by Letters of Summons are styled Chevaliers p. 81 CHAP. XVI The person convict by Ordeal to quit the Realm within Forty dayes Why Forty dayes allowed An account of the Ordeals by Fire and Water Lady Emme clear'd by going over burning Coulters Two sorts of tryal by Water Learned conjectures at the rise and reason of these customs These Ordeals as also that of single Combat condemned by the Church p. 84 CHAP. XVII Other Laws Of entertaining of strangers An Uncuth a Gust a Hogenhine what of him who confesseth the Murder c. Of Frank pledge Of an Heir under age Of a Widows Dowry Of taking the Kings fealty Of setting a time to do homage Of the Justices duty Of their demolishing of Castles Of Felons to be put into the Sheriffs hands Of those who have departed the Realm p. 87 CHAP. XVIII Some Laws in favour of the Clergy Of forfeitures on the account of Forest or hunting Of Knights fees Who to bear Arms and what Arms. Arms not to be alienated No Jew to bear Arms. Arms not to be carryed out of England Rich men under suspicion to clear themselves by Oath Who allowed to swear against a Free-man Timber for building of Ships not to be carryed out of England None but Free-men to bear Arms. Free-men who Rusticks or Villains not such p. 90 CHAP. XIX Of Law-makers Our Kings not Monarchs at first Several of them in the same County The Druids meeting-place where Under the Saxons Laws made in a general Assembly of the States Several instances This Assembly under the Normans called Parliament The thing taken from a custome of the ancient Germans Who had right to sit in Parliament The harmony of the Three Estates p. 93 CHAP. XX. The Guardians of the Laws who In the Saxons time seven Chief One of the Kings among the Heptarchs styled Monarch of all England The Office of Lord High Constable Of Lord Chancellor ancient The Lord Treasurer Alderman of England what Why one called Healfkoning Aldermen of Provinces and Graves the same as Counts or Earls and Viscounts or Sheriffs Of the County Court and the Court of Inquests called Tourn le Viscount When this Court kept and the original of it p. 95 CHAP. XXI Of the Norman Earls Their Fee Their power of making Laws Of the Barons i. e. Lords of Manours Of the Court-Baron It s rise An instance of it out of Hoveden Other Offices much alike with the Saxons p. 98 THE FIRST BOOK OF THE ENGLISH JANUS From the Beginning of the BRITISH Story down to the NORMAN Conquest CHAP. I. The counterfeit Berosus with the Monk that put him forth both censured The Story of Samothes the first Celtick King The bounds of Celtica From Samothes say they the Britans and Gauls were called Samothei For which Diogenes Laertius is falsly quoted the word in him being Semnothei THERE came forth and in Buskins too I mean with Pomp and State some parcels of years ago and is still handed about every where an Author called Berosus a Chaldee Priest take heed how you suffer your self to believe him to be the same that Flavius Josephus so often up and down quotes for a witness with a Commentary of Viterbiensis Or rather to say that which is the very truth John Annius of Viterbium a City of Tuscany a Dominican Frier playing the Leger-de-main having counterfeited Berosus to put off his own strange stories hath put a cheat upon the Lady Muse who is the Governess of Antiquities and has hung a Bantling at her back After the Genealogies of the Hebrews drawn down by that Author whoever he be according to his own humour and method for fear he should not be thought to take in the Kingdoms and Kings of the whole Universe and the Etymologies of Proper Names by whole-sale as we say as if he had been born the next day after Grandam Ops was delivered of Jupiter he subjoyns SAMOTHES the very same who is yeleped Dis the Founder of the Celtick Colonies stuffing up odd Patcheries of Story to entertain and abuse the Reader Now this I thought fit by the by not to conceal that all that space which is bounded with the River Rhine the Alpes the Mediterranean Sea the Pyrenean Hills and lastly the Gascoin and the British Oceans was formerly termed Celtogalatia nay that P●olomy hath comprized all Europe under the name of Celtica Well as the Commentary of Annius has it This Samothes
with a Greekish Cloak on and that Hooded and a Satchel or scrip by their side their Beard hanging down to their very Privities and forked or parted in two about their Nostrils in their Hands a Book and a Staff like that of Diogenes with a severe Forehead and a melancholy Brow stooping down with their Head and fastening their Eyes on the ground Which description how it agrees with those things which are recounted by Caesar and Strabo concerning the Golden adornments the dyed and coloured Vestures the Bracelets the shaved Cheeks and Chin of the Britans and other things of the like kind let them who are concerned look to that CHAP. XI The Britans and Gauls had Laws and Customs much alike and whence that came Some things common to them both set down in relation to the breeding of their Children the Marrying of their Wives the Governing of their Families burning Women that killed their Husbands and burning some Servants with the dead Master for company Together with some Remarks of their publick Government BUt forasmuch as Britanny gave the beginnings and improvements to the discipline of these Druids and both Britans and Gauls had their Government Customs Language Rites sacred and profane every thing almost the same or much alike as Mr. William Camden hath some while since most learnedly made out O Mr. Camden with what respect shall I name thee In freta dum fluvii current dum montibus umbrae Lustrabunt convext ac dum Cynosura Britannos Semper honos noménque tuum laudesque manebunt Which in hearty English makes this acknowledgment of his worth As long as Rivers run into the Main Whilst Shades on Mountains shall the Welkin hide And Britans shall behold the Northern Wain Thy Honour Name and Praise shall still abide And it is evident that a great part of Britany was once under the Government of Divitiacus King of the Soissons a People of France Therefore these following Remarks I thought not amiss to set down as British whether they were imparted to this Isle by the ancient Gauls by reason of its nearness or whether the Gauls owed them to the Britans 9. They do not suffer their Children to come to them in open sight they are Caesar's words but when they are grown up to that Age that they may be able to undergo Military duty and to serve in War 10. The men what mony they receive with their Wives upon account of portion they lay down so much out of their own Estate upon an appraisement made to make a joint stock with the portion There is an account jointly kept of all this mony and the profits of it are reserved the longer liver is to have both shares with the profits of the former times 11. The men have power of life and death over their Wives as well as over their Children Hereupon Bodin charges Justinian with a falshood for affirming that other people had not the same Fatherly power as the Romans had 12. When a Master of a Family who is of higher birth and quality dies his Kindred meet together that if the manner of his death were suspicious they may by torture as Servants were used examine the Wife concerning the business and if she be found guilty they torment her miserably and burn her alive To this story that most excellent Lawyer and worthy Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas Sir Ed●ward Coke refers the antiquity of the Law which we at this day use of devoting to the flames those wicked Baggages who stain their hands with the nefarious murder of their Husbands 13. Those Servants and Dependents who were known to have been beloved by their Master in his life time were when the Funeral Rites were prepared burnt with him for company 14. It was ordered that if any one by flying report or common same had heard any thing from the borders that might concern the Common-wealth he was to make it known to some Magistrate and not impart it to any body else 15. The Magistrates conceal those things they think fit and what they judge may be of use to the Publick they discover to the populace 16. No body has leave to speak of the Common-wealth or of publick affairs but in Council or Parliament 17. They came armed into the Council or to Parliament So the custom of the Nation was saith Livy and Tacitus the like of the Germans CHAP. XII Women admitted to publick debates A large commendation of the Sex together with a vindication of their fitness to govern against the Salick Law made out by several examples of most Nations 18. IT was grown a custom amongst them we meet with this in Plutarch that they treated of Peace and War with their women in company and if any questions arose betwixt them and their Allies they lest it to them to determine The same custom the Cecropians that is the people of Athens once had as Austin relates it out of Varro before the women by majority of Vote carried it for Minerva against Neptune Away with you Simonides and whosoever you are scoundrels that unworthily abuse the finer and brighter Sex Good Angerona thou Goddess of Silence wash nay stop Enbulus his foul mouth who denies there were ever any good women more than two in the world to wit chast Penelope and Alcestis who died in her Husbands stead How large an honour was paid to the counsels the prudence the virtue of the Gaulish Ladies in their chiefest affairs and not without their desert How much honour even at this day is yearly paid at Orleance on the eighth of May to the Statue of Joan Darcy of Lorain that stands on the bank of the River Loir who obliged her dear Country with a Victory wonderfully got when all had been lost To pass by other arguments Antiquity holds this Sex to be equally divine as the Male. In Heaven Sea Earth together with Jupiter Neptune Pluto who were the Gods that shared the world there governed Juno Salacia Proserpina their Goddesses Marry in Varro's three fold Divinity there are more she-Gods than he-Gods Ipsa quoque cultu est nomine foemina Virtus Virtue her self howe're it came Is Female both in Dress and Name But I do not go to act over Caius Agrippa's part by declaiming upon Female excellency The thing it self speaks more than I can and the subject is its own best Orator I must add one thing which Cornelius Tacitus tells us of the Britans that they were wont to war under the conduct of women and to make no difference of Sex in places of Command and Government Which places yet there are some who stiffiy deny that Women by right should have the charge of as being what Euripides says of them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is But ill for the stout feats of War Who scarce to look on Iron dare But those Authors especially who propped up with the Salick Law as they
out of the Grant of Edward the Confessor to the Abbot of Westminster which I am beholden to Mr. Lambard for at the bottom of which these words are set down I Syward Publick Notary instead of Rembald the Kings Majesties Chancellor have written and subscribed this paper but also out of Ingulph who makes mention of Turketulus some while after that Abbot of Crowland Chancellor of King Edred by whose Decree and Counsel were to be handled treated whatsoever businesses they were Temporal or Spiritual that did await the Judgement of the King and being thus treated of by him might irrefragably stand good And Francis Thinn that Learned Antiquary has reckoned up several who have discharged this Office as Turketill to King Ethelbald Swithin Bishop of Winchester to King Egbert Vlfin to King Athelstan Adulph to King Edgar Alsy Abbot and Prelate of Ely to King Ethelred Concerning which Office and the Seals which the Chancellor in old time had the keeping of I had rather you would consult with Camden's Tribunals or Seats of Justice and those things which John Budden at Wainfleet Doctor of Laws has brought out of the Archives into his Palingenesia than seek them at my hands As for Treasurers Dunstan was so to King Edred and Hugolin to the Confessor But that fifth title of Alderman of England is an unusual one Yet if I don't mistake my self he was the Chief President in Tryals at Law and an Officer to keep all quiet at home the same as now perhaps is commonly called the Lord Chief Justice of England This remarkable name I do not meet with neither in the Monkish Chronologers which are to be had at the Shops nor in the Records of our Laws But a private History of the Abbey of Ramsey in Huntingdon-shire has given us notice of one Ailwins Tomb with this Inscription HIC REQUIESCIT AILWINUS INCLITI REGIS EADGARI COGNATUS TOTIUS ANGLIAE ALDERMANNUS ET HUJUS SACRI COENOBII MIRACULOSUS FUNDATOR that is Here resteth Ailwin Kinsman of the Renowned King Edgar Alderman of all England and the miraculous Founder of this Sacred Monastery And by reason of his great Authority and Favour which he had with the King by a Nick name they called him Healfkoning i. e. Half-King Now H●nry of Huntingdon sayes that Tostius Earl or to use his phrase Consul of Northumberland and Harald Sons of Godwin Earl of Kent were Justices of the Realm Aldermen may aptly be termed by the word Senators Those Judges did exercise a delegated power throughout the Provinces called Counties or Shires and the Graves and under-delegated power from them The word is as much as Governours and is the same thing as in High Dutch Grave in Landgrave Burgrave Palsgrave c. and what amongst some of our own people Reev We shall call them both as that Age did in a Latin term the one Comites i. e. Counts or Earls the other Vicecomites that is Viscounts or Sheriffs The name of Count is every where met with amongst the most ancient of the Monks which yet does very often pass into that of Duke in the subscription of Witnesses And in the Charter of the Foundation of Chertsey Abby in Surrey Frithwald stiles himself subregulus i.e. an under Kingling or petty Vice-Roy to Wulpher King of the Mercians make no question of it he meant he was a Count. A Viscount and a Vice-Lord are more than very like they are the very same Ingulph sayes it above And in the last hand-writing of King Edred we have I Bingulph Vice-Lord advised it I Alfer Viscount heard it These Counts and Viscounts or Earls and Sheriffs had in their Counties their several Courts both for private and for publick matters For private affairs they had every Month a Meeting called the County Court Let every Grave as we have it in Edward the Elder 's Laws every fourth Week convene and meet the people in Assembly let him do equal right to every one and determine and put an end to all Suits and Quarrels when the appointed days shall come For publick business King Edgar ordered the Court of Inquests or Inquiries called Tourn le Uiscount Let a Convention or Meeting be held twice every year out of every County at which let the Bishop of that Diocess and the Senator i. e. the Alderman be present the one to teach the people the Laws of God the other the Laws of the Land What I have set down in William the First at the end of the fourth Chapter of this second Book you ought to consider of here again in this place The inhabitants did not meet at this Court of Inquests at any season promiscuously and indifferently but as it is very well known by the use and ancient Constitutions of the Realm within a Month either after Easter or after Michaelmas In which Court seeing that not only the Count as now a dayes the Viscount or Sheriff does but also the Bishop did preside it does not at all seem difficult to trace the very original of this temporary Law That peradventure was the Synod of Antioch held in Pope Julius the First 's time and acknowledged in the sixth General Council held at Constantinople In this latter there are expresly and plainly two Councils or Meetings of the Bishops to be kept every year within three Weeks after Easter and about the middle of October if there be any small difference in the time it can be no great matter of mistake You may help your self to more other things of meaner note out of what has been said before about Hundreds Bourghs and the like And this may serve in brief for the Saxons who were entrusted with the care of their Laws CHAP. XXI Of the Norman Earls Their Fee Their power of making Laws Of the Barons i.e. Lords of Manours Of the Court-Baron It s rise An instance of it out of Hoveden Other Offices much alike with the Saxons I Shall be briefer concerning the Normans I mean their Earls and Barons Their Counts or Earls before the Conquest except those of Leicester and perchance some others were but Officers and not as yet hereditary When William bore the sway they began to have a certain Fee and a descent of Patrimony having together with their Title assigned to them a third part of the Revenues or Rents which did arise out of the whole County to the Exchequer This custom is clear enough in Gervase of Tilbury in the case of Richard de Red●eriis made Earl of Devonshire by Henry the First Jeoffrey de Magna Villa made Earl of Essex by Mawd the Empress It seems that the Saxon Earls had the self-same right of sharing with the King So in Doomsday Book we find it The Queen Edeua had two parts from Ipswich in Suffolk and the Earl or Count Guert the third and so of Norwich that it paid Twenty Pound to the King and to the Earl Ten Pound so of the Revenues
Pag. 28. lin 11. Now you for your part are Gods Vicegerent in the Kingdom They are the words of Pope Eleutherius in his Letter to Lucy the first Christian King which was in the year of our Lord 183. From whence we may fairly conclude that in those early dayes the Pope of Rome according to his own acknowledgement had no such pretensions as now for several Ages since they have made upon the Rights of Princes to the great disturbance of the World and reproach of Christian Religion And indeed this is the more considerable in that such was the simplicity of devotion in those early Converts and such the deference which Princes who embraced the Christian Faith especially from the Missionaries of Rome had for that Holy See as appears by this one single instance that it had been no hard matter nor could be judged an unreasonable thing for them to lay claim to a right and assert a power which was so voluntarily offered Further I add that seeing the Donation of Constantine besides that it was alwayes look't upon as a piece of forgery was at best supposing it true but an Imperial Grant and Concession which would not be of authority enough to bear up the Popes Supremacy in all other Kingdoms of the earth and seeing Pope Boniface who was the first that with bare face own'd it his complyance with Phocas was so grosly wicked that none of their own Writers but are ashamed to make that transaction betwixt those two an argument for the Papal pretence Seeing I say it is so if the Pope be intitled as their Canonists pretend to an Universal Dominion by vertue of his Office and by Commission from Christ and his chief Apostle S. Peter how came it to pass that the Bishops of Rome all along till Boniface were so modest as not to challenge any such rights or powers nay upon occasion to declare against such pretences as Antichristian which if that be true that the Pope is by his Office and by a Divine Commission instated into a Supremacy was in effect no less than to betray the cause of Christ and his Church how came it to pass that Eleutherius should neglect such a seasonable and exemplary opportunity of maintaining and exercising his right and should rather chuse to return it in a complement back to the King his Convert VICARIVS verò DEI estis in Regno sayes he You are GOD's VICAR in your Kingdom which Title now the Pope doth with as much arrogance challenge to himself as here one of his Predecessors doth with modesty ascribe to the King Lin. 32. With the title of Spectabilis Towards the declension of the Roman Empire it was usual so to distinguish great Offices with peculiar Titles as Spectabilis Clarissimus c. so among the Italians Magnifico to a Senator of Venice Illustrissimo to any Gentleman Eminenti●●●mo to a Cardinal So with us the term of Highness is given to a Prince of the Blood Excellence to a Vice-Roy or a Lord Lieutenant and to a General of an Army Grace to an Arch-bishop and to a Duke Honour to a Lord Worship to an Esquire c. CHAP. XVII P. 29. lin 43. Fabius Quaestor Aethe●verd Why he calls him Fabius Quaestor is at present past my understanding Did he take upon him a Roman name Was he in any such Office as Quaestor i. e. Treasurer or Receiver General wherein he behaved himself like a Fabius or did he intitle his Book by that name I am to seek CHAP. XVIII Pag. 31. lin 19. Whatsoever there was in Pandora of Good and Fair. She was a Woman made by Jupiter's own order and designed to be the pattern of female perfection to which end all the Gods contributed to the making of her several gifts one Wisdom another Beauty a third Eloquence a fourth Musick c. CHAP. XIX P. 32. lin 27. Wapentakes Which in some of our Northern Countreys is the same as we call other-where a Hundred from the S●xon word waepen i. e. arms and tac i. e. touch as one should say a touching or shaking of their Arms. For as we read it in King Edward's Laws when any one came to take upon him the Government of a Wapentake upon a day appointed all that owed suit and service to that Hundred came to meet their new Governour at the usual place of their Rendezvouz He upon his arrival lighting off his Horse set up his Lance an end a Custom used also among the Romans by the Prator at the meetings of the Centumviri and according to custom took fealty of them The Ceremony of which was that all who were present touch't the Governours Lance with their Lances in token of a confirmation whereupon that whole meeting was called a Wapentake inasmuch as by the mutual touch of one anothers Arms they had entred into a confederacy and agreement to stand by one another This fashion they say the Saxons took up from the Macedonians their Progenitors Others will have it from tac to take and give this account of it that the Lord of the Hundred at his first entrance upon the place was used to take the Tenants Arms surrendred and delivered up to him by themselves in token of subjection by way of Homage Sir Thomas Smith differs from both these for he sayes that at the Hundred meeting there was a Muster taken of their Weapons or Arms and that those who could not find sufficient Pledges for their good abearing had their Weapons taken away so that in his sense a Wapentake is properly Armilustrium and so called from taking away their Weapons or Arms who were found unfit to be trusted with them L. 40. For the Ceremony of the Gown He alludes to the Roman Custom with whom the youth when they arrived at mans estate were then allowed to wear togam virilem to put on a Gown the habit of men whereas before that they were obliged to wear a Coat peculiar to the age of Childhood called Praetexta whence Papyrius though yet a Child being admitted into the Senate house for his extraordinary secrecy and manly constancy was called Papyrius Praetextatus Pag. 33. lin 9. Morgangheb Or Morgingah from Morgin which in High Dutch signifies the Morning and gab a gift to wit that Present which a man makes to his Wife that morning he marries her CHAP. XX. Pag. 34. lin 3. Tityus his Liver A Gyant who for ravishing of Latona was adjudged to have his Liver after death prey'd upon continually by a Vulture which grew up again as fast as it was wasted The equity of which punishment lay in this that the Liver is reputed the source and seat of all lusts and unlawful desires and doth naturally as some Physicians hold receive the first taint of Venereal distempers the rewards of impure mixtures according to that of Solomon speaking of an Adulterer Till a dart strike thorough his Liver from whence they gather that that which we now call the French Pox was not unknow even in
several Authors Greek and Latin called Ierna and by the Inhabitants themselves Erin L. 43. The Goddess Anna Perenna The Lady President of the year Anna ab Anno to whom they addrest their devotions that she would per●nnare that is preserve and continue health and plenty and prosperity from year to year for which reason she was called Anna Perenna Now our Author here brings in long-lived Nestor and this Goddess to shew that those good fellows in quaffing of healths do wish muchos annos as the Spaniard saith many and many a years life to their absent friends while in the mean time by tossing off so many bowsing Canns they shorten their own lives Pag. 42. lin 24. Englescyre Or Englecerie that is the being an English-man For there was a Law made by King Knute in favour of his Danes and so afterward it was interpreted in behalf of the Francigenae French-men or whatever foreigners that if any such were privily murdered or slain the Village where the fact was done should be amerced in a lusty fine to the King unless they could prove Englecerie that is that the murdered person was an English-man one born of English Parents in which case there was no fine levied So that the Danes and French when they governed here provided they might secure themselves from the English were well enough content to let them destroy one another CHAP. XXV Pag. 44. lin 11. An Olympiad An account of time used by the Greeks consisting of four years so called from the Olympick Games which were celebrated in honour of Jupiter Olympius every fifth year This reckoning began first in the year of the World three thousand one hundred seventy four In the SECOND BOOK CHAP. I. PAg. 48. l. 5. By right of Fréehold Allodii jure that is by a mans own right without acknowledgment of service or fealty or payment of Rent to any other as a Superiour Lord. In which respect it is opposed to an Estate in Fée wherein though a man hath a perpetual right to him and to his heirs for ever yet seeing he owes a duty and service for it it cannot be said properly and simply to be his own And such are all mens Estates here in England but the Kings in the right of his Crown who cannot be supposed to hold of another or to owe fealty to any Superiour but to God only Lin. 12. Vnder Military service Or Knights service that is to find the King such a number of Men and Arms in time of War as it is here expressed See Cowell in the word Chivalry Indeed the Clergy before the Conquerour in the time of the Saxons as we find it in the five and twentieth Chapter of the first Book were allowed to be free from Secular Services but with an Exception and Reserve however of these things to wit Expedition Repairing of Castles and Building of Bridges from which last duty the High-Priests among the Romans were called Pontifices i. e. Bridge-makers Now this bringing of the Bishops Baronies under Knights Service was sure enough design'd to engage them into a close dependence upon the Crown and to take them off from hankering after any forreign Power to which they might pretend to owe any subordination as all along the times of Popery out of reverence to the Holy See they were forward enough upon occasion to think themselves obliged to do even to the high discontent and great disservice of their Kings CHAP. II. Pag. 51. lin 12. Ready money So I render Viva pecunia which though Spelman saith it is so called that it may the more expresly signifie pecudes i. e. Cattle yet he doth not to me I confess make out by any fair instance that it doth ever so signifie and that it cannot be taken in that sense here is plain from what immediately goes before quot animalia imò quantum vivae pecuniae quisque possidebat where animalia living creatures include pecudes the Cattle CHAP. III. Pag. 54. lin 32. Boseham What Earl Godwin's trick was or wherein the conceit lay I cannot at present well imagine unless it were in the equivocation or misunderstanding of the word Boseham as it falls in with the word Bosom in the pronunciation and sound of it thus Supposing the Earl at meeting of the Arch-Bishop coming up to him upon pretence of saluting him said Give me your Boseham my Lord to which the Arch-Bishop thinking belike he might by way of desiring his Pastoral embrace mean only his bosom readily made answer I give you my bosom which the Earl with a cunning fetch interpreted a Grant of his Estate of Boseham Pardon Reader my mistake if it be one since I have no better account from my own guess to give meeting with no help from our Law-Dictionaries CHAP. IV. P. 56. lin 8. The first Sheriffs of Counties A Sheriff or Shyrereev signifies the Governour of a County called in Latin Vice-comes as Deputy to the Count or Lord or Chief Man of the County though even in the Confessor's time he was reckoned the Kings Officer and not the Counts This Office as Mr. Camden tells us was first set up by King Alfred who also divided England into Counties and those Counties again into Hundreds and Tythings Lin. 29. Other Judges without appeal This should seem to be the Court of Chancery for which reason the Lord Chancellor is said to keep the Kings conscience as here these Judges are compared to the Kings bosom Lin. 37. Acting a Busiris his part i. e. Treating strangers ill he being a cruel Tyrant of Egypt who slew strangers and sacrificed them to his Gods whence the Proverb Busiridis arae Pag. 57. lin 39. that he should pay it at the Scale That is should pay it by weight or according to full weight CHAP. VI. Pag. 60. lin 17. Being Lord Chief Justice of the whole Kingdom In the Latin it is thus expressed totius regni placitator exactor where I confess the former title of the two gave me the occasion of my mistake as if he had been Chief Justice of the Common Pleas whereas I should rather have rendred it thus who had been to wit in King Rufus his time Pleader or Demander and Receiver of the Kings duties throughout the whole Kingdom For such an Officer this Exactor regius was otherwise called Grafio See Spelman upon both those words Lin 39. In the times of the Saxons a Hereot This at first was atribute given to the Lord for his better preparation towards War but afterward though the name were kept the thing was altered being taken for the best Chattle that the Tenant hath at the hour of his death due to the Lord by custom be it Horse Ox c. That Hereot and Relief do not signifie the same thing appears by this that they are both often found to be paid out of one and the same Tenure and again that the heir alway succeeds into the Estate upon the payment of the Relief but not alwayes