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A38489 The second part of the svrvey of the articles of the late reiected peace wherein the invaliditie and nvllitie of the said peace is proved, I. by the revocation of the Marques of Ormands commission before any peace was legally concluded &c., 2. by the defect by Walt Enos ... Enos, Walter. 1646 (1646) Wing E3130; ESTC R3649 90,779 124

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preston_n daniel_n o_o brien_n lucas_n dillon_n terlagh_n o_o neyle_n george_n come_v 58._o here_o we_o be_v to_o note_v first_o the_o circumstance_n of_o time_n to_o wit_n the_o 19_o of_o february_n which_o be_v when_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v full_o gather_v together_o within_o 12._o day_n after_o namely_o the_o second_o of_o march_n a_o order_n be_v conceive_v by_o the_o same_o assembly_n to_o treat_v with_o the_o marquesse_n of_o ormond_n and_o to_o prepare_v thing_n for_o a_o peace_n with_o his_o excellency_n but_o not_o one_o word_n authorise_v the_o committee_n to_o conclude_v a_o peace_n for_o that_o have_v be_v a_o manifest_a violation_n of_o this_o contract_n make_v with_o the_o nuntius_n nay_o by_o this_o very_a act_n of_o assembly_n and_o solemn_a contract_n whereunto_o the_o whole_a kingdom_n condescend_v i●_n before_o then_o either_o conncell_n or_o committee_n have_v any_o power_n communicate_v unto_o they_o by_o any_o former_a act_n of_o assembly_n 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conclude_v and_o publish_v together_o with_o it_o th●●d●y_o this_o contract_n clear_o discover_v how_o frivolous_a that_o part_n of_o the_o council_n and_o committee_n answer_v to_o the_o nuntius_n 1._o of_o june_n be_v wherein_o they_o say_v they_o expect_v until_o the_o first_o of_o may_n according_a the_o nuntius_n his_o pleasure_n before_o they_o conclude_v any_o peace_n for_o they_o be_v indeed_o to_o expect_v until_o a_o conclusion_n or_o publication_n be_v make_v of_o the_o peace_n to_o be_v agree_v upon_o between_o he_o and_o glamorgan_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o his_o holiness_n and_o his_o majesty_n and_o if_o the_o originals_n come_v not_o from_o rome_n by_o may_n they_o be_v to_o expect_v until_o the_o nuntius_n do_v ratify_v whatsoever_o shall_v seem_v meet_a unto_o he_o etc._n etc._n which_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o public_a faith_n of_o the_o kingdom_n pass_v by_o they_o unto_o he_o before_o his_o come_n unto_o the_o kingdom_n by_o the_o above_o mention_v letter_n 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of_o association_n which_o be_v compare_v to_o what_o we_o have_v deliver_v in_o this_o survey_v prove_v the_o justice_n of_o the_o clergy_n decree_v of_o perjury_n etc._n etc._n 59_o i_o a._n b_o do_v promise_v swear_v &_o protest_v before_o god_n &_o his_o saint_n &_o his_o angel_n that_o i_o will_v during_o my_o life_n bear_v true_a faith_n and_o allegiance_n to_o my_o sovereign_a lord_n charles_n by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n king_n of_o great_a britain_n france_n and_o ireland_n and_o to_o his_o heir_n and_o lawful_a successor_n and_o that_o i_o will_v to_o my_o power_n during_o my_o life_n defend_v uphold_v and_o maintain_v all_o his_o and_o their_o just_a prerogative_n estate_n &_o right_n the_o power_n and_o privilege_n of_o the_o parliament_n of_o this_o realm_n the_o fundamental_a law_n of_o ireland_n the_o free_a exercise_n of_o the_o roman_a catholic_a faith_n and_o religion_n throughout_o this_o land_n and_o the_o live_v just_a liberty_n possession_n estate_n and_o right_n 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