no more then that the Objection regulariter procedit in Crimes which of their own nature are not perdifficilis probationis and are not inter crimina excepta such as the Cryme of Conspiracy and Treason is MR. Williom Fletcher Oppons the Objection and Reply and further adds that albeit crimen loesae Majestatis be reckoned inter crimina excepta and so have some priviledge as to the qualification of Witnesses yet it cannot be denyed but there are some Objections competent against Witness adduced for proving Conspiracies and Treason verbi causa that a Witnes is a Capital Enemy or that he is sub potestate accusatoris and the Objection now pleaded being taken complexlie viz. That the Earl of Tarras is not only sucius criminis but also that he is publico judicio reus upon the same Crime and that as means to procure His Majesties savour he has submitted himself and come in His Majesties mercy by an acknowledgment of the Cryme before the Dyet of Citation he is obnoxious to a most just Objection viz. That he is sub potestate and by the submission and Confession his Life and Estate is now in His Majesties hands so that he is not only in the case of a reus confessus but in the case of a Witnes who does absolutely depend upon His Majesties Advocate the Pursuer and as a private accuser could not adduce his own Servants to be Witnesses because they are â—estes domestici and depend upon him so far less ought a Witnes to be adduced who not only depends as to his Estate but as to his Life and the Law gives a very good reason and which is mentioned by Paulus lib. 1. receptarum sententiarum cap. 12. parag ult In these words de se confâ—ssuâ— non est audiendus ut testis ne alienam salutem in dubium deducat qui de sua desperavit and as to the pretence that a Conjuration is a Cryme so occult that it must either be proven by such Witnesses or otherways the guilty person will escape It is answered that in this case His Majesties Advocate had an easie remedie â—or he might have pursued the Pannal before he pursued the Witness and the Terror and Apprehension of the event of a Process for Treason cannot be constructed otherways then to have influence upon the Deposition of the Witnes and as to the Citation out of Farinaâ—ius it is only in the case oâ— â—ocius â—riminis but when he comes to treat de â—este accusatio vel carcerato Quest. 56. articulo 4 to He sayes Regula sit in accusato quod is pendentâ— accusatione à testimonio repellitur and be the 2 d. Rule of the same Arâ—icle He sayes it is a principle quod carceratus testimonium ferre prohibetur and he gives this reason quia praesumitur quod falsum testimonium diceret pro aliquo qui ei promiserit se liberare a vinculo and limits this Rule that he must be carceratus propter crimen SIr Patrick Hume adds that it is a certain principle that any person that is guilty infamia juris cannot be a Witness no more than a person that is Convict and Condemned of Treason and if he were Convict and Condemned of Treason he could not be a Witness even in the case of Treason so neither can the Earl of Tarras in this case be received a Witness for he being adduced a Witness after he received his Indiâ—ment and confessed the Crime is equivalent as if he had been actuall Convict and whatever may be pretended that testes infames may be admitâ—ed yet it was never asserted by any Lawyer that a person Convict of Treason can be admitted a Witness THe Lords Repelled the Objection against the Earl of Tarras and ordains him to be received a Witness WAlter Earl of Tarras aged fourty years married purged and sworn being Interrogat if about the time that Sir Iohn Cochran and Commissar Monro got their Commission from the Carolina Company for London the Pannal Mr. Robert Baillie of Ierviswood did not desire the Deponent to speak to Commissar Monro to try if he could get him the â—aid Pannal added to that Commission Depones affirmative Being Interroâ—at if the said Ierviswood the Pannal did not tell the Deponent that he was resolved to go to London however upon his own Expenses and that his and their going about the Carolina Bussiness was but a pretence and a blind but that the true design was to push foreward the people of England who could do nothing but talk to go more effectually about their bussiness Depones affirmative Depones that the Pannal did settle a Correspondence with the Deponent whereby he was to give an account to the Deponent of what should pass betwixt the Countrey Party in England and the Scots men there and on the other hand the Deponent was to Write to him what occurred here Depones that the Pannal did say to the Deponent if the King would suffer the Parliament of England to sit and pass the Bill of Seclusion that that was the only way to secure the Protestant Religion Depones that the Pannal said to him that the King might be induced to do so if the Parliament would take sharp or brisk measures with Him or the like Depones these words were spoke to him by the Pannal since the holding of the last Session of this current Parliament and before the Pannal and Commissar Monro went for London Depons that after the Pannal went to London he did give the Deponent an account by Letters that things were in great Disorder there and that he hoped there would be effectual Courses taken to remeid them Depones that Mr. Robert Martin did come to Mr. Pringle of Torwoodlies House in May 1683. or thereby and brought a Letter to the Deponents Lady unsubscribed but the Deponent knows it was Ierviswoods Hand-writing who was then at London and that Mr. Martin told the Deponent that things in England were in great disorder and like to come to a hight and that the Countrey Party were considering on methods for securing the Protestant Religion And that Archibald sometime Earl of Argile was to get ten thousand pounds Sterling whereas thirty thousand pounds Sterling was sought by the Scotsmen at London which was to be sent over to Holland to provide Arms and that the late Earl of Argile was to Land with these Armes in the West-Highlands of Scotland and that the Deponents Friend Ierviswood the Pannal was to be sent over with the Money Depones that Philiphaugh and he went to Gallowshiels House where they met with Polwort and Gallowshiels and that it was talked amongst them there that in case those in England should rise in Arms that it was necessary in that Case that so many as could be got on the Borders should be in readiness to deal with Straglers and seize upon Horses and that thereafter they should joyn with those tâ—at were in Arms on the Borders of England Depons That in the
conventient places for Landing if he understood and as the Deponent remembers where the Ships could attend The Deponent remembers not the names of the places The Deponent spoke to the Lord Stairs but cannot be positive that he nam'd the Affair to him but found him shy but the Earl of Argile told him he thought Stairs might be gain'd to them And that the Earl of Lowdoâ—n being a man of good Reason and disobliged would have great influence upon the Countrey and recommended the Deponent to Major Hâ—lms with whom the Deponent had some acquaintance before and had brought over a Letter from him to the Earl of Argyle but the Deponent had not then communicate any thing to the said Holms Iames Steuart laid down a way of correspondence by Cyphers and false Names and sent them over to Holms and the Deponent for their use which Cyphers and Names are now in the hands of His Majesties Officers as the Deponent supposes and did desire the Deponent earnestly to propose the 30000. pound Sterling abovenamed to the party in England and did not propose any less for as the Earl told the Deponent he had particularly calculate the Expence for Arms Ammunition c. But Iames Steuart said that if some less could be had the Earl would content himself if better might not be but the Earl always said that there was nothing to be done without the body of Horse and Dragoons above-mentioned During the time of the Deponent his abode in Holland tho he had several Letters from Shepard yet there was no satisfactory account till some time after the Deponent parted from the Earl of Argyle and was making for a Ship at Rotterdam to transport himself to England Iames Steuart wrot to him that there was hopes of the Money The next day after the Deponent came to England he met with Sir Iohn Cochran who with Commissar Monro and Ierviswood was at London before he came over and depons that he knows not the account of their coming more then for the perfecting the Transaction about Carolina and having acquainted Sir Iohn Cochran with the Earls demands of the 30000 pound Sterling and the 1000. Horse and Dragoons Sir Iohn carried him to the Lord Russel to whom the Deponent proposed the affair but being an absolute Stranger to the Deponent had no return from him at that time but afterwards having met him accidently at Mr. Shepards hoâ—se where he the Lord Russel had come to speak to Shepard about the Money above-named as Mr. Shepard told the Deponent The Deponent when they were done speaking desired to speak to the Lord Russel which the Lord Russel did and having reiterate the former Proposition for 30000. pound Sterling and the 1000. Horse and Dragoons he the Lord Russel told the Deponent they could not get so much raised at the time but if they had 10000. pound to begin that would draw People in and when they were once in they would soon be brought to more but as for the 1000. Horse and Dragoons he could say nothing at the present for that behoved to be concerted upon the Borders The Deponent made the same proposal to Mr. Ferguson who was much concerned in the Affair and zealous for the promoving of it This Mr. Ferguson had in October or November before as the Deponent remembers in a Conversation with the Deponent in Cheapside or the Street somewhere thereabout said that for the saving of innocent Blood it would be necessary to cut off a few insinuating the King and Duke but cannot be positive whether he named them or not to which the Deponent said that 's work for our wild People in Scotland my Conscience does not serve me for such things after which the Deponent had never any particular discourse with Ferguson as to that matter but as to the other Affair Ferguson told the Deponent that he was doing what he could to get it effectuate as particularly that he spoke to one Major Wildman who is not of the Deponent his acquaintance Ferguson blamed always Sidney as driving designs of his own The Deponent met twice or thrice with the Lord Melvil Sir Iohn Cochran Ierviswood Commissar Monro the two Cessnocks Mongomery of Landshaw and one Mr. Veitch where they discoursed of Money to be sent to Argyle in order to the carrying on the Affair and tho he cannot be positive the Affair was named yet it was understood by himself and as he conceives by all present to be for rising in Arms for rectifying the Government Commissary Monro Lord Melvil and the two Cessnocks were against medling with the English because they judged them men that would talk and would not do but were more inclined to do something by themselves if it could be done The Lord Melvil thought every thing hazardous and therefore the Deponent cannot say he was positive in any thing but was most inclined to have the Duke of Monmouth to head them in Scotland of which no particular method was laid down Ierviswood the Deponent and Mr. Veitch were for taking Money at one of these Meetings It was resolved that Mr. Martin late Clerk to the Justice Court should be sent to Scotland to desire their Friends to hinder the Countrey from Rising or taking rash Resolutions upon the account of the Council till they should see how matters went in England The said Martin did go at the Charges of the Gentlemen of the Meeting and was directed to the Laird of Polwart and Torwoodlie who sent back word that it would not be found so easie a matter to get the Gentrie of Scotland to concur But afterwards in a Letter to Commissar Monro Polwart wrote that the Countrey was readier to concur then they had imagined or something to that purpose The Deponent as above-said having brought over a Key from Holland to serve himself and Major Holms he remembers not that ever he had an axact Copy of it but that sometimes the one sometimes the other keeped it and so it chanced to be in his custody when a Letter from the Earl of Argyle came to Major Holms intimating that he would joyn with the Duke of Monmouth and follow his measures or obey his Directions This Mr. Veitch thought fit to communicate to the Duke of Monmouth and for the Understanding of it was brought to the Deponent and he gave the Key to Mr. Veitch who as the Deponent was informed was to give it and the Letter to Mr. Ferguson and he to shew it to the Duke of Monmouth but what was done in it the Deponent knows not The Deponent heard the Design of Killing the King and Duke from Mr. Shepard who told the Deponent some were full upon it The Deponent heard that Aron Smith was sent by those in England to call Sir Iohn Cochran on the account of Carolina but that he does not know Aron Smith nor any more of that matter not being concerned it it Shepard named young Hamden frequently as concerned in these Matters Signed at
Donatives to those whom he and his Father had formerly rob'd and destroy'd for their Fidelity and Loyalty to their King And the Super-plus if any were was intended for his Lady and Children which was the hight of Clemency there being indeed more Debt upon the Estate then the whole of its value Yet being more conscious of his own Guilt then his Prince did apprehend he dar'd not rely upon that Clemency whereof he had tasted so plentifully but abusing the favour of his open Imprisonment for verifying of his other Crimes he added this one of breaking the Prison and flying from the Laws No King but ours could after all this think of favouring his Family but His Majesty will not only favour but restore and before it was known that the late Argile had more Debt then Estate in a Royal Largese He gifts more to his Children by thrice then their Father could lawfully give them had he never been Forsault Could it have been thought that any Christian or Gentleman could have been guilty of Ungratitude to so benign and bountiful a Prince and yet that the late Earl of Argile did after the receiving so many Favours and the profession and boasting of so much Loyalty not only enter in a horrid Conspiracy for rising in Arms but gave at least courage by his bold Undertakings to those who conspir'd the murther of His Sacred Majesty and his Royal Highness and this Conspiracy does demonstrate what was his meaning in that Paraphrase upon the Test which Fools and Knaves have justified as very Loyal and Orthodox But with what forwardness Argile and others did enter into a Conspiracy for overturning the Monarchical Government destroying the sacred Person of the King and of his only Brother and for pulling Ruine upon the three Kingdoms by a Civil War the evident Proofs of unsuspect Witnesses and the concurrence of many authentick Papers and Documents with these Depositions will not only sufficiently prove but amount to the quality of a Demonstration all the pieces being considered together and with what earnestness he acted doth evidently appear from these following Evidences For shortly after Argiles escape information was given from the West that he had caused secure the Militia Arms of Argile and Tarbet Shires as also a considerable quantity of the Kings Arms were given to him in Trust besides a little Magazine which he had of his own and some pieces of Cannon and that he had employed some Merchants to bring Arms from abroad to be landed securely in some of his remote High-land Castles And upon inquiry one William Campbel Master of a Ship at Newport-Glasgow was found to be conduc'd for this end as his Deposition taken before some of the Officers of State doth clearly evince Edinburgh the last day of August 1682. IN presence of the Lords Chancellor and Advocat William Campbel Skipper at Newport-Glasgow being examined upon Oath Depons That in March last he was fraughted by Iohn Campbel Merchant in Glasgow for Norway France or elsewhere for three Months certain conform to a Charter-party produc'd by him and about that same day he having desired to know what could be his prospect of his Voyage to Norway with so small a Ship and Loading he refused to tell him till he were at Sea and being at the back of the Lews a day or two after they set off the said Iohn Campbel then said now Skipper I will tell you the design of our Voyage which is to go to Norway and loaden Dails and out of that to Amsterdam and buy Arms and to take in the same to Cairnbulg and the Deponent having asked him what he would do with these Arms there he answered may not my Lord come to his own again and have use for them and the Deponent understanding these Arms were to be made use of against the King the Deponent answered that when he was made Burgess of Dunbartoun there was an Oath taken of him to be true to the King and the present Government as it is established and upon the Deponents refusal to comply with him in the said Voyage he got the Ships Company upon his side who beat and abused the Deponent and having gone from that to Norway he behoved to suffer all the Voyage there being no Justice in these remote Places where he came to from which being upon their Voyage to Holland the Ship was by Providence cast away for which they blam'd the Deponent as having done the same wilfully And this is the Truth as he shall answer to God Sic subscribitur Will. Campbell G. GORDON Cancell Edinburgh the 14 of Ianuary 1685. IN presence of the Secret Committee the said William Campbel being re-examined adheres to his former Deposition and further Declares that he offered to the then Lord Chancellor to apprehend the said Iohn Campbel but the Chancellor made no answer to him but whispered the General in the ear and he heard afterwards that the said Campbel had escaped And this is the Truth as he shall answer to God Sic subscribitur Will. Campbel At the same time Surmises were heard from amongst the Fanaticks from all parts of Argiles intention to land in the West with Arms and to raise that Countrey and to joyn with the Western Shires and in Summer 1683 Gordon of Earlston being apprehended at Newcastle the Papers taken with him and his own Depositions made upon Oath in Scotland did give good grounds for suspition of some imminent Design which apprehensions were raised by a little accident which happened at the time for upon the first noise of the discovery of the Conspiracy in England Earlston being in Prison in Edinburgh Tolbooth the Keeper came in to visit him who found him asleep but he awakening at the time the Keeper told him that now the Conspiracy was broke out How says Earlston is Argile then Landed of which expression the Keeper having given notice to some Councellers Earlston was examined upon the meaning of the expression who plainly confess'd that both in England and Holland he had information of Argiles buying of Arms with intention to land in Scotland and that at the same time he was informed that the English were to rise in several places of England Alexander Gordon of Earlston his Deposition before a Committee of His Majesties Privy Council and two of the Iustices Edinburg the 25 of September 1683. Sederunt Privy Counsellors The Earl of Linlithgow Lord Livingston Lord President of the Session Lord Collington Lord Castlehill Justices Lord Pitmedden Lord Harcarss The Earl of Linlithgow elected Praeses ALexander Gordon being further interrogate upon the Interrogators given in anent the Conspiracy in England Declares That the first time he heard of any design of rising in Arms was at the time when the competition was anent the Sheriffs at Midsummer was a year and then he heard the Duke of Monmonth was to head the Rebels and this he had from Iohn Nisbet and one Mr. Murray a Scots man then at
Comitem de Linlithgow Dominum Livingstoun c. Iusticiarium generalem totius Regni Scotiae honorabiles viros Dominos Jacobum Foulis de Colintoun Iusticiariae Clericum Ioannem Lockhart de Castlehill Davidem Balfour de Forret Rogerum Hoge de Harcarss Alexandrum Seaton de Pitmedden Patricium Lyon de Carss Commissionarios Iusticiariae dicti S. D. N. Regis Curia legitime affirmata Intran Mr. Robert Baillie of Jerviswood Prisoner INdited and accused that where notwithstanding by the Common Law of this and all other well Governed Nations the Conspiring to overturn the Government of the Monarchy or of the Established Government of this Kingdom or the concealing and not revealing of any Treasonable Design Project or Discourse tending thereto Or the assisting aiding or abaiting such as have any such Designs does infer the Pains and Punishment of Treason And by the third Act of the first Parliament of King Iames the first The Rebelling openly against the Kings Person and by the thretty seventh Act of His second Parliament The Resetting Maintaining or doing favours to open or notour Rebellers against the Kings Majesty is Declared Treason and punishable by Forefaulture And by the hundred fourty and fourth Act of the twelfth Parliament of King Iames the Sixth It is Declared Treason to Reset Supply or Intercommune with Traitors And by the first Act of the first Session of His Majesties first Parliament It is Declared That it shall be High Treason for the Subjects of this Realm or any number of them less or more upon any ground or pretext whatsomever to rise or continue in Arms to make Peace or War without His Majesties special Approbation And by the second Act of the second Session of His Majesties said first Parliament To Plot Contrive or intend Death or Destruction or to put any Restraint upon His Majesties Royal Person or to Deprive Depose or Suspend Him from the Exercise of His Royal Government or to levy War or take up Arms against His Majesty or any Commissionated by Him or to intice any Strangers or others to Invade any of His Majesties Dominions or to Write Print or speak any thing that may express or declare such their Treasonable Intentions it declared Treason and punishable as such Likeas by the second Act of His Majesties third Parliament It is Declared High Treason in any of the â—ubjects of this Realm by Writing Speaking or any other maâ—ner of way to endeavour the alteration Suspension or Diversion of the â—ight of Succession or debarring the next lawful Successour Nevertheless it is oâ— veâ—ity that the said Mr. Robert Baillie of Ierviswood shaking off all fear of God respect and regard to His Majesties Authority and Laws and having conceived most unjustly a great and extraordinary malice and hatred against His Majesties Person and Government and having designed most Traâ—â—erously to debar His Royal Highness His Majesties only Brother from His due Right of Succession did amongst many other Traiterous Acts tending to promove that wicked Design endeavour to get himself Elected one of the Commissioners for Negotiating the settlement of a Colony of this Nation in Carolina in one or other of the days of the Moneths of Ianuary February March April or May One thousand six hundred and eighty three years and that he might thereby have the freer and better access to Treat with the Earls of Shaftsbury and Essex the Lord Russeb and others who had entered into a Conspiracy in England against His Majesties Person and Government and with Colonel Rumsay Walcot West and Ferguson and others who had likewise Conspired the Murder of His Majesties Sacred Person and of the Person of His Royal Highness and finding that he could not get himself Elected one of the said Commissioners he resolved to go to London upon his own expenses and declared to severals whom he took great pains to draw in to be his accomplices that his Design was to push foreward the People of England who did nothing but talk that they might go on effectually and after he had settled a Correspondency here he did go up to London in one or other of the saids Moneths with Sir Iohn Cochran and Commissar Monro and did then and there Transact with the saids Conspirators or one or other of them to get a sum of Money to the late Earl of Argile a Declaired Traitor for bringing home of Men and Arms for raising a Rebellion against His Majesty and Invading this his Native Countrey and so earnest was he in the said Design that he did chide those English Conspirators for not sending the same timeously and lamented the delayes used in it and perswaded the late Earl of Argile and others in his name to accept of any sum rather than not to engage and amongst the many meetings that he hâ—d at London for carrying on the said Traiterous design there was one at his own Chamber where he did meet with the Lord Melvil Sir Iohn Cochran and the Câ—ssnocks Elder and Younger and amongst others with Mr. William Veatch a declared Traitor and there he did treat of the carying on of the said Rebellion and of the money to be furnished by the English for Argyle for buying of Armes And that if the Scots would attempt any thing for their own relief they would get assistance of Horse from England and from that meeting he or ane or other of them did send down Mr. Robert Martin to prevent any rysing till it should be seasonable for carying on of their Designs which Mr. Robert after he came to Scotland did treat with Palwart and others for carying on of the said Rebellion by securing His Majesties Officers of State His Castles and Forces and by putting his Correspondents here and there Associates in readiness to assist the late Earl of Argyle and after the said Mr. Baillie had engadged many of his Countrey-men in England and had assured his Correspondants here that the English were resolved to seclud his Royal-Highness from his due right of Succession thereby to encourage them to concur in the said Rebellion and Exclusion he slew to that hight that he did particularly and closly correspond with Mr. Robert Ferguson Sir Thomas Armstrong Collonel Rumsay and Walcot who were accessory to that horrid part of the Conspiracy which was designed against the sacred Life of His Majesty and the Life of His Royal-Highness and did sit up several nights with them concerting that bloody Massacer at least the said Mr. Robert Baillie of Ierviswood was and is guilty of having correspondence with the late Earl of Argyle and Mr. William Veatch declared Traitors and of being art and part of an Conspiracy for assisting of these who were to rise in arms against His Sacred Majesty and for exclusion of His Royal Brother and of concealing and not revealing the accession and proposals of others for that effect Wherethrow he has committed and is guilty of the Crymes of High Treason Rebellion and others above specified and is
art and part of the famine which being found by ane Assize he ought to be punished with Forfaulture of Life Land and Goods to the terror of others to commit the like hereafter HIS Majesties Advocat produced an Act and Warrand from the Lords of His Majesties most Honourable Privy Council for pursuing and insisting against the said Mr. Robert Baillie of Ierviswood whereof the Tenor follows Edinburgh The twenty two day of December one thousand six hundred and eighty four years The Lords of his Majesties Privy Council do hereby give Order and Warrand to His Majesties Advocat to pursue a Process of Treason and Forfaulture before the Lords of His Majesties Justiciary against Mr. Robert Baillie of Ierviswood to morrow at two a clock in the afternoon preceisly and the said Lords do hereby Require and Command Sr. George Lockhart of Carnwath and Sr. Iohn Lauder Advocats to concur and assist in the said Process with His Majesties Advocat from the intenting until the end thereof as they will be answerable upon their alledgance Extract by me sic subscribitur Colin Mckenzie Cls. Sti. Concilij Pursuers Sir George Mckenzie of Roshaugh Our Soveraign Lords Advocat Sir George Lockhart Advocat Sir Iohn Lauder Advocat Procurators in Defence Sir Patrick Hume Mr. Walter Pringle Mr. Iames Graham Mr. William Fletcher Mr. William Baillie Advocats THE Pannals Procurators produced ane Act of His Majesties Privy Council in their favours whereof the Tenor follows Edinburgh the twenty third of December one thousand six hundred eighty four years The Lords of His Majesties Privy Council having considered ane Address made to them by Mr. Robert Baillie of Ierviswood now indited at the instance of His Majesties Advocat before the Lords Commissioners of Justiciary of Treason do hereby Require and Command Sir Patrick Hume Mr. Walter Pringle Mr. Iames Graham Mr. William Fletcher Mr. Iames Falconer Mr. William Baillie Advocats to Consult Compear and Debate for the Petitioner in the Process of Treason mentioned in his Address without any hazard as they will be answerable at their peril Extract by me sic subscribitur William Paterson Cls. Sti. Concilij AFter reading of the Inditement the Lord Justice General required the Pannal to make answer thereto The said Mr. Robert Baillie Pannal pleaded not Guilty MR. Walter Pringle Advocat as Procurator for the said Mr. Robert Baillie of Ierviswood Pannal alleadges that he ought not to pass to the knowledge of an Assize because he had not got a Citation upon fyfteen days or at least on a competent time which is usual and absolutely necessar in all Actions and much more in Criminal Pursuits especially seing if a competent time be not allowed to the Pannal he is precludit of the benefit of ane exculpation without which he cannot prove his Objections against Witnesses or Assyzers or any other Legal or competent Defences And by the late Act of Parliament concerning the Justice Court all Pannalls are allowed to raise Precepts of Exculpation and thereupon to cite Witnesses for proving the Objections against Witnesses and Assyzers which necessarily presupposeth that a competent time must be allowed to the Pannal to execut his diligence or otherwise how is it possible he can prove an Defence of alibi or any other just Defence and as this is most consonant to that clear Act of Parliament and to material Justice and to the Rules of Humanity so this point has been already fully and often decided and lately in the case of one Robertson in Iuly 1673. The Instance whereof is given by His Majesties Advocat in his Book of Criminals and Title of Libels where the Lords found that albeit Robertson got his Inditement in Prison yet he behoved to get it upon fifteen dayes HIS Majesties Advocat oppons the constant Tract of Decisions whereby it is found that a person Incarcerated may be Tryed upon twenty four houres and the late Act of Parliament is only in the case where a Summons or Libel is to be Raised but here there is no Libel or Summons but only an Inditement nor was any Exculpation sought in this case before the Tryal which is the case provided for by the Act of Parliament THe Lords Justice-General Justice-Clerk and Commissioners of Justiciary Repell the Defence in respect the Pannal is a Prisoner and that it has been the constant Custom of the Court and that the Pannal made no former application for an Exculpation SIR Patrick Hume for the Pannal alleadges alwas denying the Libel and whole Members and Qualifications thereof that in so far as the Libel is founded upon Harbouring maintaining and Intercommuning with the persons mentioned in the Dittay the Pannal ought to be assoylzied because it is res hactenus judicata he having been formerly pursued before the Lords of his Majesties Privy Council for the same Crimes and Fined in an considerable Sum and therefore that Crime cannot now â—e made use of as a ground of Treason against the Pannal HIS Majesties Advocat answers That he Restricts his Libel to the Pannals entering in a Conspiracy for raising Rebellion and for procuring Money to be sent to the Late Earl of Argile for carrying on the said Rebellion and for concealing and not revealing neither of which is referred to his Oath and consequently was not res judicata there being nothing referred to his Oath but his Converse and Correspondence with some Ministers and others within the Kingdom and his own Gardiner and his Writing Letters to my Lord Argile and oppons the Decreet of Council it self and restricts the Libel to all the Crimes not insisted on in the Decreet SIr Patrick Hume Replyes That as to the Corresponding with the late Earl of Argile at any time since his Forefaulture was expresly proponed as an Interrogator to the Pannal in that Pursuit at His Majesties Advocat's Instance against him before the Lords of His Majesties Privy Council and that not only his own Correspondence by himself but also by Major Holms Mr. Carstares Robert West Thomas Shepherd Richard Rumbold and Collonel Rumsay as the Interrogator bears as appears by a double of the Act of Council written by the Clerk of Councils Servant and is offered to be proven by my Lord Advocats Oath And as to any Correspondency with Mr. Veitch it is not Relevant since he was not Declared Rebel SIr Iohn Lauder for his Majesties Interest answers That he oppons thâ— Decreet of Privy Council where no such Interrogator was put to the Pannal and the Decreet must make more Faith than any pretended Scroll and cannot be taken away by His Majesties Advocats Oath to His Majesties prejudice and for Mr. William Veitch he stands expresly Forefault in anno 1667. and the Doom of Forefaulture is Ratified in the Parliament 1669. SIR Patrick Hume oppons the Reply That as to the Corresponding with Mr. Veitch it does not appear that he is the person mentioned in the Act of Parliament and albeit he were as he is not he having thereafter come
that Meeting and told he was sure the Englishmen intended so and that it was Discoursed at that Meeting amongst them that it were fit to seize Berwick and Stirling and that it was talked amongst them of bringing the Duke of York to Tryal and thaâ— the King would abandon him Sic Subscribitur Hugh Scot. Perth Cancel Queensberry George Mckenzie Io. Drummond George Mckenzie Edinburgh October 29. 1684. Sederunt Lord Chancellour Lord Secretary Lord President Lord Advocat THe Laird of Gallowsheils Prisoner in the Tolbuith of Edinburgh being Call'd and Examin'd upon Oath Depons that in the Moneth of May 1683. The E. of Tarras Hume of Polwort Elder and Laird of Philiphaugh came to the Deponents House himself being absent at his coming home they were speaking of the Security of the Protestant Religion and of a Party in England who would secure or seize the King or Duke and that if any should rise in Arms to Defend them or to rescue the King and Duke There was another Party who would rise in Arms against them it was proposed that some Countrey-men should be spoken to to try their Resolutions and that the Resolutions of England should be told them to see if they would concur But the Deponent does not remember that this proposition was approven or undertaken to be done by any present nor does he remember who manag'd the Discourse It was likewise propos'd to seize the Officers of State especially the Chancellour and Thesaurer and the said Sir Iohn Cochran was to come to the West from England for advancement of the Design and that the Earl of Argile was to Land in the West Highlands and to raise that Countrey Of these matters all these who were present Discoursed as of an Affair that they were agitating and wherein themselves were particularly concerned though at that time they did not conclude what their carriage should be The reason why the Deponent cannot be more particulars is because he was sometimes going out and sometimes walking up and down the Room and though the Deponent cannot be positive of the very words yet he is positive they were either these Words or Words to that purpose Sic subscribitur Hugh Scot. Perth Cancellarius Edinburgh December 23. 1684. HVgh Scot of Gallowsheils being solemnly Sworn in presence of the Justices and Assize adheres to the Depositions within and above-written in all points Sic subscribitur Hugh Scot. Linlithgow I. P. D. HIs Majesties Advocat in fortification of the former Probation adduces the Printed Copy of Mr. William Carstares Depositions emitted before the Officers of State and other Lords of Privy Council and leaves the same to the Assise and uses it as an Adminicle of Probation for though it was capitulat that he should not be made use of as a Witness yet it was agreed that the Deposition should be published and likewise produces the Principal Deposition signed by himself and the said Lords THe Lords Justice-General Justice-Clerk and Commissioners of Justiciary admit the Paper produced as an Adminicle and refers the import thereof to the Inquest and ordains the Printed Paper as it is Collationed to be taken in and considered by the Inquest SIr William Paterson and Mr. Colin Mckenzie Clerks of His Majesties Privy Council being Interrogat if they heard Mr. William Carstares own the Depositions Read Depons they saw and heard him Swear and own the same upon Oath and they Collationed the Printed Copie with the Original formerly and now they heard it Collationed Sic subscribitur Will. Paterson Colin Mckenzie THe Deposition of Mr. William Carstares when he was Examined before the Lords of Secret Committee given in by him and renewed upon Oath upon the 22. of December 1684. in presence of the Lords of His Majesties Privy Council Edinburgh Castle September 8. 1684. MR. William Carstares being Examined upon Oath conform to the Condescention given in by him and on the Terms therein-mentioned Depons That about November or December 1682. Iames Stuart Brother to the Laird of Cultness wrot a Letter to him from Holland importing That if any considerable sum of Money could be procur'd from England that something of importance might be done in Scotland The which Letter the Deponent had an inclination to inform Shepherd in Abb-Church-lane Merchant in London of but before he could do it he wrot to Mr. Stuart above-nam'd to know from him if he might do it and Mr. Stuart having consented he communicat the said Letter to Mr. Shepherd who told the Deponent that he would communicat the Contents of it to some persons in England but did at that time name no body as the Deponent thinks Sometime thereafter Mr. Shepherd told the Deponent that he had communicat the Contents of the Letter above-named to Colonel Sidney and that Colonel Danvers was present and told the Deponent that Colonel Sidney was averse from imploying the late Earl of Argile or medling with him judging him a man too much affected to the Royal Family and inclin'd to the present Church-Government yet Mr. Shepherd being put upon it by the Deponent still urg'd that one might be sent to the Earl of Argile but as Mr. Shepherd told him he was suspected upon the account of his urging so much yet afterwards he press'd without the Deponents knowledge that the Deponent being to go to Holland however might have some Commission to the Earl of Argile which he having inform'd the Deponent of the Deponent told him that he himself would not be concern'd but if they would send another he would introduce him but nothing of this was done upon which the Deponent went over without any Commission from any body to Holland never meeting with Iames Stuart above-named He was introduc'd to the Earl of Argile with whom he had never before conversed and did there discourse what had past betwixt Mr. Shepherd and him and particularly about remitting of Money to the said Earl from England of which the said Mr. Stuart had written to the Deponent namely of 30000 pounds Sterling and of the raising of 1000 Horse and Dragoons and the securing the Castle of Edinburgh as a matter of the greatest importance The method of doing this was proposed by the Deponent to be one hour or thereby after the relieving of the Guards But the Earl did not relish this Proposition as dangerous and that the Castles would fall of consequence after the Work abroad was done Iames Stuart was of the Deponents Opinion for seizing the Castle because it would secure Edinburgh the Magazines and Arms As to the 1000 Horse and Dragoons my Lord Argile was of Opinion that without them nothing was to be done and that if that number were rais'd in England to the said Earl he would come into Scotland with them and that there being so few Horse and Dragoons to meet them he judg'd he might get the Country without trouble having such a standing Body for their Friends to Rendezvous to and the said Earl said he could show the Deponent the
Edinburgh Castle the 8. of September 1684. and renewed the 18 of the same Month. William Carstares PERTH CANCELL I. P. D. Edinburgh Castle 18 September 1684. MR. William Carstares being again Examined adheres to his former Deposition in all the parts of it and Depones he knows of no Correspondence betwixt Scotland and England except by Martin before named for those Gentlemen to whom he was sent were left to follow their own Methods Veitch sometimes as the Deponent remembers stayed sometimes an Nicolson Stabler's House at London-wall sometimes with one Widow Hardcastle in More-fields The Deponent did Communicate the Design on foot to Doctor Owen Mr. Griffil and Mr. Meed at Stepney who all concurred in the promoting of it and were desirous it should take effect and to one Mr. Freth in the Temple Councellor at Law who said that he would see what he could do in reference to the Money but there having gone a Report that there was no Money to be raised he did nothing in it nor does the Deponent think him any more concerned in the Affair Nelthrop frequently spoke to the Deponent of the Money to be sent to Argyle whether it was got or not but the Deponent used no freedom with him in the Affair Goodenough did insinuate once that the Lords were not inclined to the thing and that before they would see what they could do in the City The Deponent saw Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Rumsay lurking after the Plot broke out before the Proclamation having gone to Ferguson in the back of Bishopsgate-street at some new Building whether he was directed by Ierviswood who was desirous to know how things went Rumsay was not oâ— the Deponent his acquaintance before but they knew as little of the matter as the Deponent This is what the Deponent remembers and if any thing come to his Memory he is to deliver it in betwixt the first of October And this is the truth as he shall answer to God William Carstares PERTH Cancell I. P. D. At Edinburgh the 22. of December 1684. THese foregoing Depositions Subscribed by Mr. William Carstares Deponent and by the Lord Chancellor were acknowledged on Oath by the said Mr. William Carstares to be his true Depositions and that the Subscriptions were his in presence of us Under subscribers William Carstares PERTH Cancell David Falconer Queensberry George Mckenzie Athol HIs Majesties Advocat for further probation adduces the Examinations of Mr Shepard taken before Sir Leolin Ienkins Secretary of State for England with the Information or Deposition of Mr. Zachary Bourn relating to the Plot sign'd by him and Secretary Ienkins of which Depositions the tenors follow THe Examination of Thomas Shepard of London Merchant taken upon Oath before the Right Honourable Sir Leolin Jenkins Knight His Majesties Paincipal Secretary of State the 23. day of December 1683. THe Deponent saith That Ferguson told him on or about the Moneth of April last that an Insurrection was intended both in England and in Scotland and that for the settling that Affair betwixt the two Nations Mr. Baillie Mr. Monro Sir Iohn Cochran Sir Hugh and Sir George Campbels with some others whose names this Deponent heard not were come to London That the Deponent had some acquaintance with Mr. Baillie Mr. Monro and Sir Iohn Cochran and none at all with Sir Hugh and Sir George Campbels that Mr. Baillie told the Deponent that the Earl of Argile demanded Thirty Thousand Pounds of the English to capacitat him to begin the business effectually in Scotland and that he the said Baillie likewise told the Deponent that having concerted things with the Lord Russel and others he the said Baillie found an impossibility of raising that Sum After which the said Baillie had acquainted the Deponent that they were certainly promised Ten Thousand Pounds which Sum was agreed to be payed into the Deponents hands in order to be remitted into Holland for the providing of Arms and that the said Baillie told the Deponent at divers times that the said Sum or at least one half of it would be payed such a day and such a day and sometimes asked the Deponent if he had received any part of the said Money to which the Deponent replyed that he had not and that he the Deponent scarce thought any would be payed And the Deponent also saith that having had some little conversation with Sir Iohn Cochran he remembers well that both of them did sometimes lament the delays in not paying in the Money and said that although the said Ten thousand Pounds were pay'd in they the said Sir Iohn Cochran and Mr. Monro fearâ—d it would be too little and this Deponent further sayeth not as to any new matter But the Deponent being asked to Explain what he thought was meant by the words above-written viz. to capacitat him the Earl of Argile to begin the business he this Deponent sayeth that he did understand by the Word business an Insurrection in Scotland Sic subscribitur Iurat coram Thomas Shepard L. Ienkins THe Information of Zachary Bourn of London Brewer taken upon Oath the tenth day of December 1683. before the Right honourable Mr. Secretary Ienkins THe Informant Deposeth and sayeth that Mr. Baillie set up one Night if not two with Mr. Ferguson and went several times in the Evening with him to the Duke of Monmouth and the chief mannagers of the Conspiracy That Ferguson told the Deponent that he the said Baillie was the chief man for the Scots next to the Lord Argile that the said Baillie did sit up the greatest part of one night with the said Ferguson at which time this Deponent believeth they were busie in preparing the intended Declaration which the Deponent has the more reason to believe in as much as the said Ferguson did go about to show him the Deponent such a Paper wherein the said Ferguson was hindered by the coming up Stairs of some person to speak with the said Ferguson that the said Ferguson told the Deponent that the main business of the said Baillie in meeting the saids Conspirators was in order to get from them the Ten thousand Pounds promised for the buying of Arms for the Insurrection intended in Scotland That the Deponent saw Mr. William Carstares come often to the Lodgings of the said Ferguson but that the said Ferguson never told the Deponent of any Discourse held by him with the said Carstares and further this Deponent saith not sic subscribitur Zac. Bourn Iurat coram L. Ienkins HIs Majesties Advocate likewise produced several Warrands and Papers to prove that those Depositions are sign'd by Sir Leolin Ienkins HIs Majesties Advocate also produced the Books of Adjournal bearing Mr. William Veitch to be a Forefault Traitor and the Act of Parliament whereby the Forefaulture is Ratified His Majesties Advocat's Speech to the Inquest My Lords and Gentlemen YOu have now a Conspiracy against His Majesties Sacred Person and Royal Government so fully discover'd that they must want Reason as