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A52522	Wonderful predictions of Nostredamus, Grebner, David Pareus, and Antonius Torquatus wherein the grandeur of Their present Majesties, the happiness of England, and downfall of France and Rome, are plainly delineated : with a large preface, shewing, that the crown of England has been not obscurely foretold to Their Majesties William III and Mary, late Prince and Princess of Orange, and that the people of this ancient monarchy have duly contributed thereunto, in the present assembly of Lords and Commons, notwithstanding the objections of men and different extremes.	Atwood, William, d. 1705?; Grebner, Ezekiel.; Nostradamus, 1503-1566.; Pareus, David, 1548-1622.; Torquato, Antonio, 15th cent.	1689 (1689)	Wing N1401; ESTC R261	72,982	73

desire all Men of this Opinion impartially to weigh these following Particulars 1. There was very anciently an Act made in a General Convention of all England in Conventu Pananglico That their Kings should be elected by the Clergy senioribus populi and the Elders of the People that is such as were Members in their Great Councils or Witena Gemots Assemblies of sage or wise Men. This tho it was long before the reputed Conquest yet was never repeal'd or cut off by the Sword nay seems receiv'd with the Confessor's Laws as included in them Which leads to another Head. 2. The Confessor's Law receiv'd by William 1. and continued downward as the noblest Transcript of the Common Law shews that the Kings of England are elected and the End for which they are chosen by the People After the same manner do the ancient Historians and Lawyers commonly express Accessions to the Throne and seem industriously to mind Kings of it that according to the Caution given the Jewish King their hearts be not lifted up above their Brethren 3. According to the Usage from before the reputed Conquest downwards the People are ask'd whether they are content to have such a Man King 4. The most Absolute of the English Monarchs never believ'd that their Children had a Right to the Crown except the People consented that they should succeed as appears by King Alfred's Will and the Death-bed Declaration of William 1. And therefore some of our Kings against whom there has been no pretence of better Title in any particular Person or Family when they stood upon good Terms with their People have often prevail'd with them in their Lives-time to secure the Succession to their Eldest Sons and H. 2. to prevent hazarding the Succession endanger'd himself by getting his eldest Son Crown'd himself living But as the going no farther than the eldest argues that they look'd on that as a Favour the pressing for a Settlement on their Issue in any manner argues that it was not look'd upon as a clear Point of Right without it Of later Times Settlements have been made in Tail which tho they were occasion'd by Pretences to Titles are Records against an Hereditary Monarchy 5. The Oaths of Allegiance required of all the Subjects were never extended to Heirs but were barely Personal till Settlements of the Crown were obtain'd upon the Quarrels between the Families of York and Lancaster and tho' H. 4. obtain'd in Parliament an Oath to himself the Prince and his Issue and to every one of his Sons successively and in the time of H. 6. the Bishops and Temporal Lords swore to be true to the Heirs of R. Duke of York yet perhaps no Oath of Allegiance to the King and His Heirs can be shewn to have been requir'd of the Subjects in general till that 26 H. 8. according to the Limitations of the Statute 25. 6. Even where the People had settled the Crown they seem'd to intend no more than to give a Preference before other Pretenders not but that upon weighty Reasons they might alter it as appears by Pollydore Virgil who was never thought to lie on the Peoples side whatever Evidences for them he may have conceal'd or destroy'd whose Words of H. 5 to whom the Crown had been limited by Parliament may be thus rendred Prince Henry having buried his Father causes a Council of Nobles to be conven'd at Westminster which while they according to the Custom of their Ancestors consulted about making a King behold on a sudden some of the Nobility of their own accord swear Allegiance to him which officious Good-will was never known to have been shewn to any before he was declared King. 7. As the Practice of the Kingdom is an Evidence of its Right numerous Instances may be produc'd of Choices not only so called by the Historians but appearing so in their own Natures wherein no regard has been had to Proximity but barely to Blood. And I believe no Man can shew me any more than Two since the reputed Conquest of whom it can be affirm'd with any semblance of Truth that they came in otherwise than upon Election express'd by the Historians of the Time or imply'd as they had no other Title or else a late Settlement of the Crown either upon themselves immediately or in Remainder The Two upon which I will yield some Colour are R. 1. and E. 1. which singular Instances will be so far from turning the Stream of Precedents that unless the Form or Manner of Recognising their Rights as Hereditary be produc'd the Presumption is strong that the Declarations of the Conventions of those Days or the People's acquiescing upon the Question Whether they would consent to the King in nomination or both made even their Cases to be plain Elections And of these two Instances perhaps one may be struck off For tho' Walsingham says of E. 1. They recogniz'd him for their Leige-lord that does not necessarily imply a Recognition from a Title prior to their Declaration for which way soever a King comes in duely he becomes a Liege-lord and is so to be recogniz'd or acknowledg'd and that the Title was not by this Author suppos'd prior to the Recognition appears in that he says Paterni honor is successorem ordinaverunt They ordain'd or appointed him Successor of his Father's Honour And yet his Father to secure the Succession to him had soon after his Birth issued out Writs to all the Sheriffs of England requiring all Persons above Twelve Years old to swear to be faithful to the Son with a Salvo for the Homage and Fealty due to himself Indeed of R. 1. the Historian says He was to be promoted to the Kingdom by Right of Inheritance yet the very Word promoted shews something that he was to be rais'd to higher than that Right alone would carry him which he fully expresses in the Succession of E. 2. which he says was not so much by Right of Inheritance as by the unanimous Assent of the Peers and Great Men. Which shews that ordinarily they respectively who stood next in Blood might look for the Crown before another till the People had by their Choice determin'd against them But this is farther observable of R. 1. That he was not called King here but only Duke of Normandy till he was Crown'd which next to the People's Choice was in great measure owing to his Mother's Diligence For he being absent at the Death of his Father his Mother who had been releas'd out of Prison by his means to secure the Succession to him went about with her Court from City to City and from Castle to Castle and sent Clergy-men and others of Reputation with the People into the several Counties by whose Industry she obtain'd Oaths of Allegiance to her Son and her self from the People in the County-Courts as it should seeem notwithstanding which the Archbishop charg'd him at his Coronation

Subjects have suspended their Obedience Nor is the German Author Knichen less plain whose Words are If the Magistrate have absolute and full Majesty due Subjection ought by no means to be denied him tho' he be impious Nor may another be substituted in his room upon his being cast out Much less can a new Form of Government be introduc'd But if he were constituted by the People under certain Pacts and Promises sworn to him by the People and therefore is bound to certain Rules of Laws and either to do or avoid things contain'd in those Contracts whether Fundamental Laws or things particularly concerted as for Example the Emperor in our Empire They not being observ'd but studiously enormously and obstinately violated the Hopes of Amendment after many of the Subjects Prayers and Admonitions plainly vanishing he may rightfully be remov'd by the States and People c. The Reason is Because he was promoted to the Government by such Agreement and that sworn to according to the Laws of the Agreement or Contract The Nature of which consists in this That if that Party for whose Sake or Cause they are Constituted violate them the other Party of very Right is freed from the Observance of those things which are granted by such Laws Nor does Philip Pareus come short of this in his Defence of his Father David where he speaks very particularly of the Effect of the mutual Compact But notwithstanding the Discharge from Allegiance to J. 2. some will urge That it continues to the Person that stands next in Blood. Against which I doubt not but I shall offer full Evidence For 1. If as I have shewn the Promise to the King himself be Conditional and his Interest determines by his Breach of the Condition be the Condition precedent in which Case no Interest is vested till Performance or subsequent in which the Breach divests what before was settled What Interest can the Heir have in a Conditional Estate determined by Breach of the Condition And since it has been made appear That the Heirs of a King with us take not as Purchasers by an O●●ginal Contract upon which there might be some Pretence of an Interest vested in them independent on their Father's Title but they who can be said to have succeeded without an immediate Choice did it by vertue of subsequent Settlements entirely depending upon the Original Contract continuing down to their immediate Ancestors respectively If that Contract be dissolv'd what can support the Settlement Can the Agreement for the Benefit of a King and his Posterity be suppos'd to be other than that if he govern them as King performing the Essentials of the Contract on his part he and his Descendents shall enjoy the Crown Can it be imagin'd that this was made for the separate Benefit of the Heir without regard to the Ancestor's Performance Or is it to be supposed in the nature of the thing that the People would have made such a Contract whereby after being justly discharged from their Allegiance to a King and having acted pursuant thereto they shall enable a Successor to revenge his Ancestor's Quarrel This were such a Contract as that which the Lord Clarendon assures us if never so real can never be suppos'd to be with the intention of the Contracter And Grotius argues against a King's Power of aliening his Kingdom from hence that this is not to be prsum'd to have been the Will of the People in conferring the Power And in another place he says Right is to be measur'd according to the Will of him from whom the Right arises 2. The Power of the King being as Fortescue has it and the Authorities above plainly evince a Populo effluxa deriv'd from the People and the Interest of J. 2. being determined he yet living so that there can be no Heir to him or of his Body What hinders the Operation of the known Rule in Law That where there is no Remainder to take effect at the Determination of the particular Estate it shall revert to the Donor Which in this Case is manifestly the People If it be said That this Rule shall not extend to the Descent of the Crown which differs from Common Inheritances I dare say No Man can shew any Difference but what is more strong for the People's Choice For whereas Common Estates are for the Benefit of them who have the present Interest the Crown is a Trust for the Benefit of the People 3. The Ancient Statute above-mentioned of which the Lords and Commons mind R. 2. upon his Male-administration says That upon putting the King from his Throne with the Common Assent and Consent of the Nation for the Causes there exprest they may set upon the Throne in his stead propinquiorem aliquem de stirpe Regia some body of Kin to the King of the Royal Stock If they were tied to the next it certainly would have been proximum Besides the word aliquem shews a Latitude And according to this upon R. the Second's being Deposed H. 4. claimed the Crown Al 's descendit be ryght Lyne of the Blode comeynge fro the gude Lord Henry Therde But because this without consideration of his Merits in rescuing them from R. 2. entitled him to the Crown no more than another of the Blood therefore the Lords and Commons drew up an Instrument purporting their Election 4. But admit none of the foregoing Arguments were enough to shew That upon James the Second's Abdication or at least losing his Interest in the Government the People of England were restor'd to that Liberty which they had before the Settlement of the Crown which was in force till the Original Contract was broken by him yet I conceive the particular Consideration of the State of the Settlement might afford sufficient Argument Henry the Fourth Fifth and Sixth if we believe Dr. Brady held the Crown by Usurpation Yet the earliest Settlement of the Crown farther than the first Son was in the time of H. 4. Nor as I shall shew was the Crown enjoy'd by J. 2. under better Title than they had H. 5. and 6. came in under an Entail of the Crown 7 H. 4. confirmed 8. The Misgovernment of H. 6. having given occasion to Richard Duke of York of the Blood-Royal and Elder House to assert the Peoples Rights not his own Henry and the Duke with the Consent of the Lords and Commons came to an Agreement in Parliament That Richard and his Heirs should enjoy the Crown after the Death of Henry And tho' here the word Heirs is mention'd without restraint yet considering that it is the first time that ever the Crown was settled so far I know not whether it is not to be taken with Gomezius his Restriction of an Usufructuary or Emphyteutical Estate of the last of which much of the same nature with the other he says If it did not use to be granted to more than the