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A38981 An Examination of the impartial state of the case of the Earl of Danby in a letter to a member of the House of Commons. 1680 (1680) Wing E3727; ESTC R5161 24,243 38

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not give this Lord time to reduce things in such a posture as might be wisht and makes a Query Whether it be not the most unsafe as well as most unjust practice for a Nation to discourage such Ministers as endeavour to draw their Master to his Kingdoms Interest Here the Impartial Author lays the Foundation of his ensuing Arguments and resolving to Charge this Lords Crimes on the King he first boldly attempts to make him a fit Subject to bear it and to lessen his own Impeachment draws up one against his Soveraign That he had forsaken the Interest of his Kingdom and wanted this Lord to draw him to it With this gratitude he seldom fails to pay his Majesty in every particular and having declar'd what a profest Enemy this Lord was to the French Interest believing it destructive to this Nation he desires That the Proceedings of this Lord may be impartially considered Page 9. and see whether they have not all tended to the diminishing the French Interest since his time and if it have diminish'd it will be hard to finde who else there was besides himself neer his Majesty who had power and inclination to do it c. The Issue then to be joyn'd is upon the Question begg'd Whether the French Interest was diminish'd by this Lords Proceedings but it will easily be granted that 't would be hard to finde any neer his Majesty besides himself that had power And then I hope if it appears that the French Interest grew enlarg'd in his days 't is as reasonable to apply his Power and Inclination to be the Causes of it as it is for his impartial Friend to use them for the contrary I will pass over some Instances he gives which cannot amount to the proof of the whole as the breaking the League with France Peace made with the Dutch the Duke of Monmouth call'd from the French Service the Match with the Prince of Orange all which are attributed to this Lord as the Custom is of any reputed Good At which I will not quarrel because I have yielded the point that he had all Power but I will onely put him in mind of the Address from Parliament to the King to recall the Forces from France and the Bills pass'd in several Sessions to that purpose even in those years when the French so clearly ow'd Success to the English and the Marriage of the Lady Mary unless the Consequences had been happier might rather be thought the disposer of the Prince of Orange to the Peace that follow'd than be a prejudice to the Interest of France which prosper'd most after it In the same Paragraph 't is said That every one knows that this Match altered the mindes of the Duke of York and Duke of Monmouth that from being the greatest Asserters of the French Interest they became as forward as any for the War of France And this Conversion it seems assisted by the Power and Inclination of this Lord brought on the Actual War with France for which the Parliament gave their Money and by this we see it own'd that all were French but this Lord and people not so mistaken it seems that have been constantly jealous of it But whether the Dukes of York and Monmouth have reason to thank him for declaring their Conversions I know not since he condemns them for an errour which we found ill effects of but none on the contrary by the Conversion and then he says the King had good intentions c. which implies that he never had any good before as if he had now drawn him to his Kingdoms Interest And as this Lord was pleas'd to order it he never appears to have better after it for whatever he is accus'd of he charges upon the King and acts as if agreed with what he pretended to know of the Opinion of the French Vid. His Speech in the House of Lords at his Charge that they had the Kings Person and Government in the last degree of Contempt I know not whether that Lord shrunk when he spoke those words in the House of Peers but next the owning of such an Opinion of the King 't was an audacious Crime to own a Belief that any could retain such a Judgment of him I hope this Lord is the onely person that thinks it either probable or possible But leaving this point with blushes to have repeated such a thing I will set down some general Observations of Publick Affairs which will best shew whether the Diminution or Increase of the French Interest was likely to be intended or effected in his time In the first place to lay a Foundation to build upon I suppose it may be taken for granted that the Parliament did ever appear warmly averse to that Interest and of consequence must give the greatest apprehensions to the French that from them might proceed the onely fatal Opposition and which was not probably to be diverted either by Skill or Money In March 76 the Commons in Parliament presented an Address most humbly offering to his Majesties consideration That the mindes of his People were disquieted with the manifest dangers arising by the Growth and Power of the French King c. And therefore humbly presented their Desires that his Majesty would strengthen Himself with stricter Alliances to quiet the mindes of his People and preserve the Netherlands The Kings Answer agreed That the preservation of Flanders was of great consequence But it seems not being thought particular enough it begot a second Address on March the 26th wherein they again more strictly prest the King to enter into such Alliances as might obtain those Ends. And in case that in pursuance of such Alliances his Majesty should be engaged in a War with the French King they promise chearfully upon notice of it in Parliament so to supply the King as that he might prosecute the same with success And in their Address of the 29th of Jan. 77 they humbly desired no Treaty but such a one as might put the French King in no better an Estate than he was after the Pyrenean Treaty This sufficiently shew'd the temper of the Parliament and their Judgment That War it self was more suitable to the Interest of England than the growth of the French Power But this begot great Debates and shew'd so many influenc'd that they appear'd ill Witnesses for the boasted Power and Inclination and presently after while things of this great nature here had heavie motions the frontier Towns were taken as Valenciennes and St. Omers c. I will not delay to set down the particular Reasons and Arguments that were raised against this constant Sense of the Parliament nor the sharp Reprehensions they sometimes received from the Notions of their too-much invading the Kings sole Power in Peace and War It shall suffice to observe That those Reprehensions Arguments and Delays did not seem to tend to the Diminution of the French Interest But to proceed to make it yet more clear that
he that knows something knows all things In that Letter also 't is fit to observe that the King was sufficiently inform'd that the French desired Peace upon the Terms sent by the Secretary but thinks it not fit to stay till the Desire was formally receiv'd and the Embassadour as formally impower'd to propose for fear the time should be lost of effecting the Peace that is for fear the Market should be miss'd of contracting for so much Money as might secure against the Troubles of Parliaments for some years And if Adjournments and Prorogations have been the usual prudence certainly a well-bought Dissolution for three years at least must needs be thought admirable Politiques The second is That the Propositions were not originally the Kings but the Confederates so that the King was to gain nothing by making the Market either higher or lower and the French had often experience that his Majesty would not do otherways This second way of Arguing is as strenuous as the former and bears equal resemblance to the reason and nature of it for 't is still grounded upon the Propositions That they were originally the Confederates who at that time were too much discourag'd to hope or propose any thing equal to the Common Interest And therefore the Market was to be made up in the preventing that which might raise their spirits the meeting of Parliaments Which Mr. Coleman whose policy agreed with this Lords declares to be the Fountain of their Resolutions So that the Logick appears this There was no Markets to be made of the Propositions Ergo there was no Market to be made of Parliaments The third continues in the same Method which is laid down as a full justification of his Majesties Honour in that point and that he had no designe of getting the Money for the purposes suggested against the Earl of Danby for in that case he would not have considered the gain or loss of the Confederates And Mr. Mountague is expresly forbidden in the Letter to mention the Money at all in case the French King did not accept those very Propositions of the Confederates and in the Terms as his Majesty recelv'd them from his Embassadour at the Hague This Argument also is like the rest grounded upon the Propositions and is made to prove that the Money was not designed for ill purposes because there was so great a care expressed of sticking entirely to the Propositions Sure he forgets that but a little before he says That this Lord in his Letter assures him that they were sufficiently inform'd the French desired Peace upon those Propositions It seems strange then that the justness of sticking to them should be so insisted upon when the French had given their permission by the approbation of them I wish that in this Paragraph the Argument and respect for his Majesties Honour had been better defended or wholly let alone but first to bring the Kings Honour in question and then to argue so ill in the defence of it was two great though not equal Crimes for no guilt but Treason can exceed or equal that of too boldly medling with that sacred Subject The Fourth is a new sort of Argument from the last words of the Letter where the Earl tells Mr. Mountague That he believes that would be the last time any Proposals of Peace would be made and that he is confident they will not be accepted wherefore he might accordingly take the Kings Measures and his own How to apply this Argument for any use to this Lord I know not it onely expresses an apprehension or opinion That the Proposals would not be accepted sure he cannot mean the Proposals that he says were received from the Confederates for those he was informed were desir'd by the French it could be onely the Propositions for the Money that probably gave the apprehensions of the refusal After these four Observations he proceeds to that expression about the Parliament which he supposes has been a principal Cause of giving them offence and plainly avows that he has heard this Lord say That His Majesty caused that expression to be used onely for a Motive to perswade the King of France to give a greater Sum than Six Millins of Livers which then had been offered and because otherways in the ill posture things then stood betwixt the two Kings the French King might suspect whether the King of England would agree to any Peace at all And these being the whole Contents of the Letter and it being writ by His Majesties express Order you will easily conclude this Lord could not be so hardly prosecuted for that onely were there no other Causes for it when in truth he believes there are very few Subjects but would take it ill not to be obeyed by their Servants and their Servants might as justly expect their Masters protection for their Obedience Before I enter upon the Argument of this Paragraph 't is fit that I should first avoid the Crime that I presume to Condemn in this Lord for if I should endeavour to prove the thing to be ill in its own nature and by silence leave the King entituled to it I should share the guilt so common to this Lord I will therefore first endeavour to do my self that Justice which the law does the Nation to separate the King from wrong or dishonour and I will after in a more proper place examine the Argument drawn from Obedience I need not go about to prove the well-known Maxime of the Law That the King can do no wrong and if he cannot be liable to do wrong none can entitle him to be the Author of wrong done and this is not onely matter of Law but grounded upon Prudence and Necessity for to allow it to be possible that a King could do wrong and yet that he is accountable to none but God were to grant there is a mischief without the Compass of the Laws and 't were rational if the King could commit the offence that he should be subject to Men to judge the punishment therefore justly 't is said of the Antient Lawyer Bracton who wrote in Hen. 3. time Ipse autem Rex non debet esse sub homine sed sub Deo c. and by the same reason the Kings Honour is as little subject to Men as his person accordingly the Act of the 13th of the King expresses a care of the Preservation of His Majesty by declaring That in his Honour and Happiness consisted the good and welfare of his people so that of consequence any one that attributes dishonour to the King is an Offender against the good and welfare of the people On the other side if any Favourite or Councellor should be discharged from ill Actions or Counsels by charging the King with the allowance or knowledge of them what an encouragement might this be for guilty men and what an Asylum to fly too when the guilt is committed In the same Act there is a heavy sentence on any that shall
AN EXAMINATION OF THE IMPARTIAL State of the CASE OF THE EARL of DANBY IN A LETTER TO A Member of the House of Commons LONDON Printed and are to be sold by Walter Davis Bookbinder in Amen-Corner neer Paternoster-Row 1680. AN EXAMINATION Of the pretended Impartial State of the CASE Of the EARL of DANBY c. THough I have little curiosity to read the Pamphlets that swarm at this time and think it almost as great an Errour to mix with the Crowd of Writers as to mingle with any other Riot yet I was drawn from my own Inclinations by so specious a Title as An Impartial State of the Case of the Earl of DANBY having been conversant in many Affairs that relate to that Lord. At the first Reading of it I was not a little surpriz'd to find as I then thought a thing Publisht with such a Title and confirmed with such confident promises of Truth and yet to be composed of Three things so far from Impartiality The First is the manner of Arguing which is most upon Questions begg'd The Second is of many Untruths which I presum'd were easie to make appear by matter of Fact The Third is an endeavour to fix upon the King most of the Errours and Crimes that were Charged on him Yet with this first Nation I was not satisfy'd but read it more carefully the second time and being then convinced it was subject to these Errours I thought it my Duty to my King and Countrey to let them not be ignorant of any Information that I could give since some particular knowledge that I am furnisht withal makes me more capable to present them with some Observations than others though of greater Abilities then I cou'd have done I therefore apply'd my self to Examine this sharp Censure upon the Parliament for so ill Rewarding the Merits of this Deserving Lord as to let Malice have too great a share in his Prosecution And in the same place there is an assurance that nothing should be related but what may be depended upon for Truth Who the Authour of this is I cannot tell but if it were not the Lord himself 't is a Friend more passionate than usual and one that gives him so large a Character and in whose Cause he condemns both King and Country that it seems hardly credible that one man should be so extravagantly kind for another but rather the production of Self-Interest and Conceit and comparing the Stile and Arguments with this Lords Speech in the House of Peers when he was Charg'd it helps to confirm my Opinion that this Lord was the Friend that Writ it and 't is more probable that he is so much a Friend to himself than that any other should be so to him I shall now proceed to particular Remarks and begin with the first matter of Fact The faithful Discharge of this Lords Trust as Treasurer of the Navy to the satisfaction of His Majesty and the great content of the Sea-men 'T is fit to observe That this Office depends on the directions of the Commissioners of the Navy what to pay and on the Lord Treasurer or Commissioners of the Treasury for Money to pay so that if this Lord gave content it seems he was supplyed to make himself capable of the performance But his Impartial Friend attributes all this to his Lordship as he does other things to his Management with so much Prudence and Success But yet it will appear he has but ill-luck in his first Assertions for since the Treasury of the Navy is so confin'd the great Trust that remains in him is onely in Sums of Money which can be violated by no ways but falsely disposing it or applying some to his own private use the last of which has been counted a high Crime for the King's Treasures have ever been taken to be Sacra Patrimonia and none were to use any of it but were liable to great punishments But this Lord ventur'd to apply Two thousand seven hundred forty seven pounds five shillings and eleven pence of the Kings Money to his own use and was short so much in his Account for his Faithful Discharge of Treasurer of the Navy and was forgiven it by a Privy-Seal bearing date the 21 of February 1676. which was about three years after he was Lord Treasurer A seasonable time to pass such an Account to be forgiven for some Money when he had gotten the Command of all the rest but I shall not dispute whether this fault hinder'd His Majesty from being satisfy'd with his performance in that employment since his bounty and goodness was in other things much more extended to this Lord but how well returned will appear by the following Observations After this stumble in the Threshold he proceeds to his advancement in 73. to the place of Lord Treasurer which he says he managed with so great Prudence and Success that contrary to all Mens expectations but especially of his Enemies who assured themselves of his immediate ruine by that Preferment he supported for near six years that condition of his Master which it was not then thought cou'd have been made to subsist for so many Months without any Supplies or Burthens laid upon the People in all his time Here his Impartial Friend begins boldly to assert and as confidently to beg the Question That this Lord supported the Kings Condition for six years that was thought cou'd not have been made subsist six Months I believe 't would puzzle the Author to name the Persons that were of this Opinion for they cou'd find no subject-matter for their Judgment but must be guided by Flattery or Ignorance And 't were very uncharitable if not malicious to believe that those that Managed the Revenue before this Lord should be so weak and dishonest for less than such a Conjunction cou'd not reduce such a Revenue to so deplorable a condition as to give any a just ground to believe they had not left a subsistance for six Months This heavy Charge on his Predecessours seems not onely very partial but very extravagant which will be best discerned by examining the great Success and Prudence of this Lord and perhaps it will appear that Men shou'd rather have judg'd and his Enemies have apprehended that the Kings Revenue was left in such a condition to this Lord that it might easily have been supported for much a longer time than six years and if any Calculation was made for his Ruine it must have been from other causes As to that of Supplies it is very true that there were none given directly to the Kings sole use in his time but the Eighteen Months Tax for 1238750 l. which was given in the Lord Cliffords time was all paid in this Lord's half of which viz. the last three Quarters was solely disposed by him and the first three by the Lord Clifford for Publick Uses which contributed to leave the Kings condition in a better posture than is here acknowledged which will be shewn in
a more proper place when I set down the state of the Kings condition in point of his Revenue as it was left by his Predecessour the Lord Clifford At the same time I will present how this Lord left it by which every reasonable man will be best convinc'd Yet before I plainly set them down I will beg leave to take notice of some Particulars which perhaps may be useful to the consideration of the Generals The first Illustration of this Lords Prudence is drawn from the Chargeable War with the Dutch the whole burthen of which this Impartial Friend wou'd lay upon this Lord to discharge forgetting or resolving to forget all but his concerns and that the War was begun in the time of the Commissioners and the great Charge of it was in the time of the Lord Clifford who might as well complain that he had no benefit of any Tax given in his time as this Lord that there was none given in his But that I may not say more than I can clear nor desire to be believed onely from confident affirmations I must acknowledge that I have seen the disposition of the three first Quarters of the Tax the first was made the third of April 1673. which was not three Months before the Lord Clifford resign'd his staff the second also was signed by the Lord Clifford the third Quarter was projected by the Lord Clifford with this Lord then Sir Thomas Osborne whose Name I have seen to the bottom of the List being so entered at the Exchequer the other three Quarters were not medled with but left wholly to the disposition of this Lord in whose time also al these six were paid Concerning other Taxes and Monies I shall give the Account in a more proper place and onely add this Observation That all Assignments upon this Tax ever found credit for the advancing of Money and this burthen of the Dutch War did not lye so wholly upon this Lord nor was the Tax so unuseful to him in discharging of his part of it I will not unnecessarily dwell upon particulars as what Arrears were upon several Offices the general states when laid down will best answer that but I will onely touch upon some others that will not relate to that whereby every thing may have its just examination One great particular applyed to the Honour of this Lord and to the Infamy of others is the setling the Debt to the Goldsmiths which yet is not a Debt paid but the setling of a perpetual Interest to be paid I will not deny but 't was a just and good action nay though Mr. Coleman claims a share in it whose benefit perhaps only made him active in it But upon this occasion I would onely present a small view of the Impartiality of this Writer he calls this stop of the Exchequer an Infamous Action and fixes it upon many persons allowing no excuse for them though it was own'd by the King in a publick Declaration by reason of the necessity of Affairs but when this Lord was Charged with Crimes of higher natures he allows the Plea that the King commanded it and though privately to be sufficient to wipe off all Infamy from him This cannot appear good Reason or clear Justice and less shewed towards the King than any if this Lord be charged with an ill Action it must be fixed on the King and if a good one be to be claimed 't is wholly applyed to this Lords Honour and the King must be allowed no share of his own goodness The next particulars he uses to help shew what great things this Lord performed is the War of Algiers and the Rebellion in Virginia the last quickly ceas'd and while both hapned if there had been a considerable Fleet for Summer and Winter Guards kept out besides it had been a matter of some consideration otherwise the sparing of those was more considerable than the paying for these Other more slight particulars are set forth in the next Paragraph the great abatement of the Corn-Act to the diminishing the Customs Threescore thousand pounds a year The Act for Prohibiting the French Commodities which has lost not less than one hundred and fifty thousand pounds a year from the said Revenue which this Lords Predecessours did receive yearly into the Exchequer What these Acts might lessen from what the Customes might have been none can well guess but one thing will confute the Argument viz. That there was more paid in his Predecessors times for let any take a medium of the time of this Lords being Lord Treasurer and 't will appear the Customs never yielded so much as in his days The next complaint is the 200000 l. borrowed on the fifth part of the Excise and the inconvenient manner of repaying it This I confess is hard to be understood for in some measure this Money was of use not of disadvantage to this Lord for the full 200000 l. was lent in his time and at his going out on the 25th of March 1679. 83400 l. was left to pay which since was paid by these present Commissioners so that of consequence that sum was used in the assistance of his management and not the whole any burthen to make the work so much the harder for his Prudence and Success The next Paragraph sets forth this Lords care to be very great to see Money applyed to the most publick uses as will appear by the weekly Certificates in the Exchequer to which he appeals and from which publick uses he never diverted one penny that was so appropriated notwithstanding the many false suggesting to the contrary c. This dark Text needs a Commentary First as to the Weekly Certificates of the Exchequer 't is to be observ'd that they do indeed give an Account of all Appropriated Moneys but by the way lest it should be taken for granted it does so of all other Moneys 't is fit to let it be understood that though it should and ought to do so yet this Lord caused many Sums of Money to be paid by his private direction and never conizable in the Exchequer which the Commissioners of the Excise cannot deny and Mr. Bertie or a private Letter the Voucher for their being plac'd and allow'd to their Account That he never diverted any appropriated Money he means I suppose by Acts of Parliament is very true but 't is as true that he could not have done it if he had the inclination to have attempted it for his Warrant or directions would have met with no obedience in the Exchequer for the Auditor would not have directed Monies nor the Tellers have paid it to a wrong Voucher which renders not the Exchequer a proper way for private dispositions of Money for there no Lord Treasurer can be obey'd against an Act of Parliament expresly directing nor in any thing that is deriv'd solely from his own Authority but yet where this Lord had power to divert he has not been scrupulous to use it for when
Money was lent on the credit of the Fifth part of Excise he hindred it from coming in which was often complained of publickly at the Exchequer by the Lenders of the Money and diverted it to other uses Nor can the late Commissioners of the Excise deny this if they should the Lenders will prove it who daily solicited them to bring it in A second instance is in the Poll-Bill which was given for an actual War with France upon which many Eastland Merchants were promised payment for Hemp and Masts and other Furniture for Ships which were taken up of them but no care taken to reserve Money for them out of the Act but are now before the present Lords Commissioners who are contriving Securities or Payments for them so that it seems this Lord observed just Rules where he could not violate them and broke them where he had power or opportunity In the same Paragraph this Lords Industry is set forth in the Improving the Kings Revenue but this was no peculiar Industry in this Lord that was unpresidented for the Customs were once let for 300000 l. per Annum and improved to 600000 l. just before his time and the Excise was likewise improved but this is more the Industry of private men than of a Treasurer for by their desire of gain they bid upon one another which a Treasurer must receive or put out the Candle they bid by as they say was done in the Case of Mr. George Pitt and Mr. Brett c. Nor was the Art new which he there bragg'd of to break a Bargain and resume the Farm of the Excise for the Kings advantage for the Lord Clifford made him a President for the like trick by re-suming the Farm of the Customs which he had let to Sir William Bucknall and others for 600000 l. per Annum so that I can neither say the Art is new or good Lastly if this Lord so improved the Revenue he has also improved the Argument against himself if he has not used it with that Success and Prudence which is so boasted of in the beginning For the Revenue of Ireland I can say little to it onely the Charge that my Lord Ranelagh lyes under and the protection always shew'd in keeping that business from a strict Examination does not seem to make out any advantage that the King has found by the disposition of that Farm The next Honour that is attributed to this Lord is that he paid rarely more than Eight per Cent. for Money borrowed notwithstanding the shakes lately given to Credit c. I hope this knowing Man in the Exchequer would not for proof appeal to the weekly Certificates for this if he does he will sind nothing there of the payment of any such Interest at all for this Lord practic'd most upon Tallies of Anticipation the way that has been the great destroyer of the Revenue which is done by a fictitious Bill thrown down by a Teller for Money when really he has it not and he discharged by a Tally instead of an Issue which Issue is removed from being vouch'd by Record in the Exchequer so that when 't is paid or when the Interest is paid or what Interest is paid never appears there so that all the vouching lyes among those that deal in Money and if they can but agree well there is no sence against their Combinations This I set down as briefly as I can onely to shew that this Lord could not know what Interest he paid though he might know what he agreed for for if a Tally is to be paid a year after the Interest may commence with the date of the Tally if they be but pleased to agree and when the Farmers or Contracters of the Excise have advanced great Sums the Commissioners have by their Acquittances given Vouchers instead of Records for the Commencement of the Interest and I have heard nor is it improbable that they were all very well acquainted The next Paragraph is of greater moment answering the scandal that the Revenue has been squandred under the name of Secret Service and upon this shews from the Certificates of the Pells that there has been accounted from Easter 73 to March 79 Eight Millions sixty two hundred seventy six thousand seven hundred sixty seven pounds besides the Interest of the Goldsmiths and divers other particulars which are not included in that Account and then desires it may be computed what could possibly remain to have been laid out extravagantly and 't would appear a very inconsiderable Sum. First 't is to be observed That 't is confest there are divers particulars which are not included in that Account of the Exchequer but the Argument that is here offered is drawn from the Comparison of what that Account is and what the Revenue may amount to in that time which infers that onely the Revenue is brought to that Account but since he desires a Computation I will furnish him with one more particular than perhaps he desires and then the vail being pull'd off this fallacie among others will be discovered First The Revenue in that time may indeed amount to about that Sum but in the Account of the great Sum he sets down there are these Particulars contained viz. The Eighteen Months Tax amounting to 1238750 l. The Tax for Building the Thirty Ships 584978 l. On the Fifth part of the Excise 200000 l. The Poll-Act 252900 l. The first Act for Disbanding the Army and other Uses c. 619388 l. This had appeared an Argument of some moment if it had been stated upon the Account wholly of the Revenue and that it had been left uncharged by this Lord but without searching into the fallacies of it the condition of the Revenue as it was left by this Lord will best determine his Prudence and Success The next thing insisted on is Secret Service which he says those that are versed in the Exchequer know that many Sums are included in that way of Payment that are either for Publick Service upon Expedition for sudden occasions or to save greater Fees where His Majesty is pleased to let it be so as in the Case of the Lord Treasurer and Chancellor of the Exchequers Salaries c. This is a compound of Mistakes for there are none in the Exchequer that can know what any Secret Service Money is applyed to for the Orders are in a us'd name and no Service mentioned but the words betray themselves for if it be for saving of great Fees 't is of consequence that the Exchequer knows not what 't is for or else they would have their Fees accordingly but for this very cause because those that were versed in the Exchequer did not nor could not know what such Monies were for the passing of such Orders was stopt by the Officers till the certain Fees were agreed for otherwise they took it as free gift and rather than it should be known what it was for a proportion of Fees were consented to But
Truth any that doubts it may be resolved by Sir Stephen Fox or Mr. Richard Kent And to shew also that the Condition of the Customs was truely presented and the Lord Clifford in his Paper guess'd right that the return of the last Fleet would clear it I have obtained a Copy of a Letter written from Mr. Mounteney who was then Cashier of the Customes to Sir Robert Howard the then Secretary to the Treasury COPY SIR I Have a List signed by the Lord Treasurer Clifford and Confirmed by the present Lord Treasurer the said List being wholly paid onely Eight thousand four hundred pounds payable to the Treasurer o the Navy I do hear there are several Talleys struck on the Customes but I know not of what value nor to whom payable I understand the persons have made their applications to my Lord Treasurer and that my Lord intends to make a new list which is all I can say to this Affair Custom-house London the 10th of Nov. 1673. Sir Your very humble Servant Rich. Mounteney It now remains to shew on the other side the effect of the great Prudence and Success so boasted of by as faithfully presenting the State of the Revenue at Lady-day 1679. when this Lord left it and to be as clear in this as I was in the other I have obtained likewise a Copy of it as it was presented to these present Lords Commissioners of the Treasury The Charge upon the Three great Branches of the Kings Revenue Computed to remain Lady-day 1672. Remains unpaid of Tallies Charged on the Customs 435106 01 00 Of Tallies Charg'd on the Excise 550464 15 04 To repay the Advance 250000 00 00 The Charge on the Hearth-Duty by Tallies and the Advance-Money 250000 00 00 Total 1485570 16 04 And now the equal Reader is left able to judge though the Impartial Author says he is not whether this Lord or the People of England be most unhappy in his Misfortunes but to those that will not take the pains to examine this and are not convinced there never was a better Officer in this station he proposes a new sort of Evidence from Coffee-houses themselves who have complained of the good Husbandry this Lord used for his Master for fear it should keep off the use of Parliaments I will not wonder at such a proof for the Writer uses always great liberty but I will onely do the same and desire those persons also that will not take pains to examine this to receive the Evidences now in the Coffee-houses for his Lordships Character I am almost perswaded that if Ballads had been sung in his favour they would have been urged as Evidences of his Innocency but I dare not take the liberty to urge those that are sung on the contrary for Testimonies of his guilt but after such Evidences as Coffee-houses introduced the next may probably be Ballads I have now finisht my Observations on that part of this Lords Ministry which belonged to the Treasury and shall now proceed to State-Affairs in which other Sphere for 't was not enough to shine in one the Impartial Author presents him as great a Minister as he has done a Treasurer concluding as he begun That what he had said concerning this Lords Administration in his Office as Lord High Treasurer he spoke upon certain knowledge and what he shall say in relation to his Transactions in the Affairs of State are partly so and the rest upon such assurances that he is no less confident of the Truth of them Thus he tells us that he builds upon some assurances by him received as firmly as on his own certain knowledge This I suppose he might do without any Compliment to those from whom he received them for by the Examinations of all compared 't will I suppose appear their Credits ought to have no preheminence He first introduces his Discourse with a Complaint he heard this Lord make that it was an infinite Misfortune to him that His Majesty did take him so much from the business of the Treasury whereby he could not make those improvements in his Revenue and give those dispatches that were necessary and exprest his regret that he was employed in any other business than the Treasury As to the improving of the Revenue it has been discours'd already but for Dispatches I suppose he did not believe much time was necessary if it be true as I have heard That he endeavoured to gain a belief in His Majesty that no man could be a good Treasurer that was easie of access As for that regret this Lord had for the increase of business and consequently power in the Kings Affairs I shall onely make some Observations upon this Lords Temper and Proceedings which will shew he rather desired to engross all Affairs than share any The assurance of a modest and consin'd nature would have best appeared by the easie and friendly carrying on the Kings business with such Ministers and Officers as were of good repute but instead of that this Lord shewed a Temper of a contrary nature by attempting the removal of every one that was not prostrate enough to him he began with Sir John Duncomb and Sir Stephen Fox men of most unquestioned worth in their Employments then brought a Charge in the Council against Sir Robert Howard Auditor of the Receipt the success of which is publickly known and might questionless have been very well guessed by this Lord but there were two great causes that blinded his Reason his Son the Lord Dunblain had the Reversion of the Auditors place and the removal of him with the others had reduced the Exchequer into his uncontradicted power The Ministers in State-Affairs that did not submit implicitely found him not less ambitious my Lord Arlington and Mr. Secretary Coventry seemed to have Writs of Ease in Forreign Affairs and very often were reports and expectations of their leaving their places and those that were upon better terms with him were obeyers of his power and not sharers in any and I am confident whoever throughly examines this Lords Temper and Carriage amongst Men and business he will hardly conclude it probable that any regret could spring from his encrease of power rather the Character of a very great Man may be applicable to him as to our part of the World Aestuat infelix angusto limite Regni Juv. Sat. 10. The reasons why this Lord entered unwillingly into Forreign Transactions was because he always shew'd himself averse to the Counsels wherein he found His Majesty engaged and reckons up The breach of the Triple League a War with the Dutch a League with France and an Army of English then in France These Particulars will not concern my Observations if any did amiss let it be examined when there is such an Impartial Account as this pretended to be given but upon this depends the following Paragraph which ought not to be let pass without some Reflections He complains there that the Nation was too hasty and did
the growth of the French Interest and Power was nourisht in the time of this Lords Power and Inclination let it be fairly Examined what Proceedings here could most favour their growing Interest I will presume then to assert That nothing could contribute more to it than all means used to hinder the Parliaments engaging the King according to their judgment and probably since it appeared that notwithstanding all opposition by Debates and displeasure shewed to some of the Addresses they rather grew more warm than cooler in the pursuit what was left but frequent Prorogations and Adjournments to divert the weighty Stream of the Parliament from running with unresistible violence against the French Interest Mr. Coleman was of this opinion as plainly appears in his long Letter where he saies that it was their dependancy on the Parliament that encouraged the Confederates to continue the War and that their Dissolution would break all their Measures and there says that the good Father he writ to before so concurred in his Politiques that he assured him the King of France would assist it with his Power and Purse Colemans Tryal pag. 40. and a little after gives an Account of the useful Prorogation to the 13th of April being to a day so high in the Spring that the thrifty Monsieur Rovigny thought would put the Confederates beyond their Measures Page 48. and it appears this Lord concurr'd also in their Politiques that a Prorogation or Adjournment was ever a help at a Pinch for in his Letter to Mr. Mountague dated the 7th of Jan. 77 8. he says That the principal cause of the Adjournment for Thirteen days was to see if an Expedient for Peace might be found in that time and the effect of the Adjournment hath hitherto been that no body will believe other than that the Peace is already Concluded betwixt us and France I will not here set down the frequent Adjournments and Prorogations that were made but onely observe they kept pace with the Success of the French and were most frequent when they were most prosperous and that this hapned in the years 77 and 78. when the Power and Inclination was boasted of and in the same years the French grew so enlarged with Success that it is improbable any but the Concerned Party should immediately affirm that this Lords proceedings tended to the diminishing the French Interest in his time Since then the contrary so clearly appears That in this Lords time the French Interest grew so enlarged I hope it will seem more proper to give the words their true application and to say If it thus increas'd it will be hard to find who else there was near His Majesty who had power and inclination to do it I come now to the last great particular of this Lords Proceedings towards the diminishing the French Interest viz. The Letter which was produced to the House of Commons and hastned or rather necessitated by this Lords Power and Inclination for 't were hard to find any other about His Majesty that could or would have endeavoured to have Mr. Mountagues Cabinets so violently seized and had he believed as his Impartial Friend affirms That the Letter might justly have born a wise and useful Construction both to the King and Kingdom he would not by so unusual a violence have implyed a guilt in his own opinion which is confirmed by that Secresie he enjoyns the Embassadour to use in the Negotiation for fear of giving offence at home I will here continue my Method not to delay upon arguing Particulars and Circumstances where the right judgment must be drawn from the general which is the subject matter it self as that Mr. Montague confesses great Honour in this Lord and that by a Letter to the King himself says That the Earl of Danby might have had more than ever he got by being Lord Treasurer if he would have prevailed with the King to agree to the Propositions of the French King and a little after cryes That if the Ministers intended the setting up an Arbitrary Power at home they would certainly neither have disobliged the French King as they have done nor refused his Money What Character Mr. Mountague gives this Lord in former Letters or what opinion the French had of him was onely lyable to a Reflection made by a Member of the House of Commons when the Letters were read That if the French had an apprehension that this Lord was not once their Friend he was confident his own Letters shewed that they had reason now to have a kinder opinion of him What the Letter to the King himself was how my Lord of Danby might have got Money we know not but it appears by his Letter now that Money would have been accepted but for the last Assertion That the Ministers had disobliged the French needs no confutation but what has been said of the whole course of things which I fear they will never be so just to repay England by Counsels as weak as those which so much contributed to their Successes From these Arguments he concludes That it would puzzle the most uncharitable Censurer to find another cause than their unwillingness to enslave their Country why Money from the French was refused If this be a good consequence That to accept French Money is to enslave the Nation I hope it follows that the Sum of Six Millions of Livres yearly to be paid for three years and offered to be accepted was for the same purpose The last Evidences instead of Coffee-houses is now offered from Gazettes and the Dutchess of Mazarines Lodgings the first declares the ill-will the French had for this Lord and the other being a place where the present French Ambassadour is apt to speak more freely he used such Discourses as would convince any man c. If the French Gazettes gave such an Account of him 't is answered as the other was That they had no such occasion now and for the other proof I have heard that the Dutchess of Mazarines Chamber has been more used to the free Discourses of the Confederate Ministers than the French Embassadours But among these weighty Arguments and Evidences I wonder 't is omitted that this Lord drunk a Confusion to the French at the late Bishop of Canterbury's house at dinner and I think it as full and cogent as most of the others But I am now brought close to the matter by being desired to observe four things First That the Propositions sent was onely a Copy of what Mr. Montague was to receive from the Secretary so that the thing it self was no Secret to them This Argument seems very strange because the Secretaries knew of the Propositions for the Peace which was likewise known to the Forreign Ministers Ergo the treating for so much Money for three years to beget a right temper in Parliaments was no Secret to them neither though enjoyn'd to be so especially to the Secretary The Logick would be as good to conclude That
say the King is a Papist or shall any ways by Word or Writing publish or utter any thing to incite people to the hatred or dislike of the Kings Person I would desire any to consider whether any of these Crimes would be answered by Pleading that what was said was spoken by the Kings knowledge and allowance it would appear the King that can do no wrong cannot avow the wrong done to him and his people If this should appear rigorous to any let them but equally compare the inconveniencies on both sides and it will appear by this way some particular men of shaken Consciences and Principles may suffer by their own folly but by the other way the Publick may suffer under the protected guilt of a few Corrupted or Ambitious persons And since in all Ages it appears how soft men are to the Impressions of Wealth and Power how just will it seem there should be no excuse for ill Councils and those that will undertake the care of great things ought to bear the weight and hazard of the Employment This would increase the care of doing well and opposing ill and great men would find it better and safer to depend upon their own Vertues than on their Flatteries and Truth will then appear the best Policy when Falshood becomes the greatest danger And I will venture to adde this farther Remark That this Lord has been bolder in this way than ever any Subject was and it looks like an ill return to his Gracious and Bountiful Master that he never entitles him to any thing for his Honour but as I observed before in the business of the Goldsmiths he wholly attributes the good Action to himself and would make the Kings Treasure purchase his honour and esteem I have heard of such generous Friends that have charg'd themselves with their Friends Misfortunes to make themselves capable to suffer for them but this Lord has not acted so for his King but on the contrary would fix ill things on him for if what was charg'd upon him had been avowable there was no need to make any other Plea than what might proceed from the nature of the thing This brings me to consider the Expression about the Parliament which he might justly indeed suppose had been a principal cause of giving offence Having now with just duty separated the King from the concern of this matter I dare proceed to consider it with the reason of the Paragraph I agree with the Author That the Clause that gave the Parliament Offence he might have added and every English-man that read it besides was this In case the Conditions of the Peace shall be accepted the King expects to have Six Millions of Livres yearly for three years from the time that this agreement shall be signed betwixt His Majesty and the King of France because it will be two or three years before he can hope to find his Parliament in an humour to give him Supplies after the having made any Peace with France The reason given for this Clause is remarkable That it was inserted onely for a Motive to perswade the King of France to give a greater Sum than six Millions of Livres because otherwise in the ill posture things stood in the French King might suspect whether the King of England would agree to any Peace at all I cannot imagine the force of this Argument unless it be to shew That there was no Motive to the French King to give Money largely nor to make him believe the King of England was firm to him but the Conditions of keeping off Parliaments How clearly does it now appear That this way onely the French believed their Interest was to be supported and as if the old Arts of Adjournments and Prorogations had not been sufficient it is projected now to let a Lease of Parliaments to the French for three years and 't is reasonably guest they would have been out of humour to grant Supplies when Supplies were gotten from others to destroy them but how after three years the Parliament should be brought in humour is not to be supposed 't is more probable that the Lease would have been renewed The next Objection to this Letter he says has been That it was Writ the 25th of March 78. which was five days after the Parliament had past an act to raise Money for an actual War with France This is confest to be true but Answered First That an Act to raise Money for a War is no Declaration of the War But that Act was grounded upon a Message from the King to the Parliament for an Actual War and 't was so declared to be by one of the Secretaries in the House of Commons but now 't will be hard for this impartial Friend to advise his Lord which to stand to whether the King was Author of the Message sent by the Secretary or of the Clause in his Letter for sure though he has been very bold with the King yet he would not make him own Contradictions at the same time The second is That till such Declaration all Treaties are lawful and even then too if the King pleases in whom the sole power of making Peace and War is made by Law There is no question but in the time of War declared the King may treat of Peace but whether this Lord may treat for it in such a way as by the clause of the Letter is the more proper Question Thirdly he says That the Kings Embassadours were then at Nimegen treating of Peace and were indeed never recall'd nor forbidden to treat the Peace and can it be thought a fault for a Minister to obey the Kings Orders at home on the same Subject upon which other Ministers were acting at the same time abroad This is the usual manner of Arguing but it it affords some new matter of Answer which arises from observing that the Ministers abroad treated upon the same Subject as this Lord did at home which implies they all treated for so much Money to be the price of Parliaments or else this Minister may be in fault though the others were not But I suppose the Ministers were not so bold upon this point abroad as this Minister was at home and if not the Argument is at an end The fourth Argument is composed of no new matter till at the latter end 't is said That had it been a Crime his Majesties Embassadour at Paris must be in as much if not more fault to have obeyed the Kings Orders at second hand as this Lord was to obey his Majesties immediate Commands from his own mouth and signed by his hand I have before taken notice how little it adds or diminishes to any Offence to compare it with what others have committed it being onely just and proper that every thing should bear its own weight But if it were not so I should not trouble my self to dispute whether the same fault was greatest in the first or second concoction but possibly the
first might be the Adviser and Obeyer both which the last could not be But perhaps the meaning of this is that the Embassadour had been in the greatest fault if he had believed this Lord that it was the Kings Order But Mr. Mountague did not seem guilty of such an Errour as to believe so much in this Lord or so well of the business yet in his Speech in the House as well as in his letter he affirms He could produce the Kings Hand for the most material things and particularly for the Letters now made use of against him I know not what Papers such a one so great in the Kings Trust and who usually presented him with so many might get sign'd but he had shewed the same respect to the King to have published them as to own he had them After this he winds up all upon this sure bottom in these words In short it would be ill for Ministers of State and worse for their Masters if the one may not Command and the others be obliged to Obey c. Though this Argument of Obedience has been often us'd I thought here would be the properest place to take notice of it remembring a little before he says There are very few Subjects but would take it ill not to be obeyed by their Servants and their Servants might as justly expect their Masters protection for their Obedience I desire any Reader more Impartial than this Author to consider the falseness of this in every particular First sure there are few Masters that would expect Obedience from their Servants in unlawful things and the Servants could less expect protection unless their Masters were above the Law The great Master of the Nation can give no more protection nor require more Obedience than the Laws of God and man allow If Obedience is the excuse of ill acts it ceases to be a good Duty and if Absolution be fixt to Obedience all Crimes have lost their natures and Counsellors should onely be sworn to a Princes Will and not his Interest If a Prince of another Religion should command a Change in me would the Obedience be a good Plea at the last Tribunal And the reason holds the same in every lesser Crime but this Argument of such an Implicite Obedience is onely put into the disguise of Conscience to prevent the true Obedience of Christianity rather to suffer than do ill but such a notion of Conscience is much more pleasant that shelters Interest and Ambition rather than the other that exposes them to hazard I have now gone through this Lords performances in the Treasury and State-Affairs and as for that which follows about the Murder of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey I easily agree them to be Libels that Charge this Lord with it and think it must be an accusation against the Witnesses Judges and Jury and I for my part must confess that the matter appeared to me clearly and fully prov'd As to what relates to the Popish Plot I leave it to others that know more not pretending to meddle with any thing that I have not had some particular knowledge in and therefore shall say little to his concluding Argument upon an Objection raised by himself Why an Innocent man should withdraw from his Tryal and then upon his Appearance quit all Defences and betake himself to a Pardon But this particular of making a Defence or relying upon a Pardon belongs onely to the Lord himself and to draw Arguments from thence to imply a guilt would rather shew a desire to find a Crime than prove it Nor will I meddle with the nature of his Pardon by what means obtained or how valid that must be considered in a more proper place and 't were too much confidence in any single Writer to Anticipate a Parliaments Judgment but this Impartial Writer taking it for granted that he has made it evident that this Lord was a good Minister and a good Englishman he concludes that it may be reasonably objected from thence Why a man so qualified to defend himself should quit all Defences but his Pardon but if by the Observations that I have made the contrary does appear his Pardon was certainly the best Defence to insist on The Conclusion of this whole matter brings me to my last Observation upon the Complaint made That Innocence is no Protection to Prince or Subject for one he instances the last blessed King for the other this Lord and makes the severity of their Cases equal This indeed if true is a sufficient answer for Pleading his Pardon when his Innocency could be no Protection and agrees with the foundation laid down in the beginning That Malice had too great a share in his Prosecution so that he returns a Charge upon his Prosecutors the Commons for Malice and against his Judges and Jury the Peers as no regarders of Innocency though in this Lords Case arguing against the Libellers that would fix Sir Edmundbury Godfrey's death on him he says in that they did accuse the Witnesses Judge and Jury that Condemned others for it but now it seems he argues another way not allowing so much favour to Lords and Commons as to the others Nor does he deal less boldly with all Kings and their Reputations that come in his way upon this King he endeavours to fix many of the Crimes charg'd on him and with his Fathers Sufferings and Virtues compares his own the excellent nature and bounty of the first as little merited the return as the Case of the last did the Comparison I have not wanted Reflections That it seems severe to endeavour to adde weight to the Unfortunate and were there no cause given I should censure it as a want of generosity to say any thing though true that might adde to Affliction but since 't is charged upon all That Malice may have too great a share in the Prosecution of this Lord I preferred my Duty to the Publick before any particular consideration in presenting these Observations to inform them of those Truths which by so many disguises are turned into Masquerade and needed some that were well acquainted with them to make the discovery of every particular and the Reader is now left to judge whether they are well used in the promise of so much Truth in this Impartial Case of the Earl of DANBY FINIS