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A34574	Stafford's memoires, or, A brief and impartial account of the birth and quality, imprisonment, tryal, principles, declaration, comportment, devotion, last speech, and final end of William, late Lord Viscount Stafford, beheaded on Tower-hill Wednesday the 29. of Decemb. 1680 whereunto is annexed a short appendix concerning some passages in Stephen Colledges tryal / the whole now again set forth for a more ample illustration of that so wonderfully zealous pamphlet entituled The papists bloody aftergame, writ in answer to the said Memoirs, and published by Langley Curtis, 1682.	Corker, James Maurus, 1636-1715.; Curtis, Langley, fl. 1668-1725.	1682 (1682)	Wing C6306A; ESTC R40876	92,519	237

Stafford's Memoires OR A Brief and Impartial Account OF THE BIRTH and QUALITY Imprisonment Tryal Principles Declaration Comportment Devotion Last Speech and FINAL END OF WILLIAM LATE Lord Viscount STAFFORD Beheaded on Tower-hill Wednesday the 29. of Decemb. 1680. Whereunto is annexed a short APPENDIX concerning some Passages in STEPHEN COLLEDGES TRYAL The whole now again set forth for a more ample Illustration of that so wonderfuly Zealous Pamphlet Entituled The Papists Bloody After-Game writ in Answer to the said MEMOIRS And Published by Langley Curtis 1682. Contraria juxta se posita magis elucescunt London Printed in the Year 1682. THE PUBLISHER TO THE READER IT is the Common Fate of all Treatises writ in Matters of Contest by Opposite Parties That whilst the One is read without the other neither of both are rightly understood There came forth not long since in Answer to this Treatise call'd Stafford●s Memoires a Pamphlet Entituled The Papists Bloudy After-game Composed by a zealous Protestant-Dissenter and obtruded upon the Vulgar even to Nauseousness on every Bookseller's Stall This Pamphlet we confess hath had the misfortune to be generally reguarded no otherwise then as a meer Bundle of Hideously Rude and Scurrilous Barbarismes and Calumnies proceeding from the Malice and Fury of a Man baffled in Judgment and despairing of success from Sense and Reason Whilst on the other side the Memoires though they hardly appear'd in open view have yet gain'd the Reputation of Modest in expression Impartial in Matter Convincing in Proof and Innoffensive in Stile It is true these so differrent Characters seem to the Godly Party no wise applicable to the desert of either of the Authors The rather because the One of them though abounding alas in Passion and Cholor is yet to be Commended for his exceeding zeal against the Popish Plot And the Other by his reservedness in being exposed and shrewd Arguments made in defence of the Papists Innocence hath given no small umbrage of Suspicion he yeildeth not that Implicit Faith and deference to the Testimony of the Kings Witnesses as may clear him from the Imputation of Popishly affected Nevertheless so it is we know not how the Memoires are grateful and the Pamphlet odious to all indifferent Readers Nay some will needs say though we piously believe otherwise The framing of this Pamphlet was a meer Sham-Plot contriv'd by th' Jesuits on purpose to advance the Credit of the Memoires and Prejudice a good Cause by an Ill Vindication But 't is hoped there will shortly be Printed something by way of an Apology in behalf of the Pamphleteer In the mean while That the two Antagonists may stand in equal Balance and both be impartially submitted to each judicious Censure see the scope of our Present Design The Memoires are here made Publick The Pamphlet being already obvious to every Eye and Ear. THE Introduction IT is a wonder to see how Passion and Interest predominate over Reason in Mankind Nothing is done nothing said without some tincture of either or both Even common Occurrences are usually related as Men would have them to be rather then as they are Plain-dealing is almost fled And and all things now a days whether Private or Publick Sacred or Prophane are according to different Inclinations without regard to Truth promiscuously made the Subject of a Satyr or Panegirick An obvious example of this we have in the several Accounts given of the Tryal Declaration Demeanor and Death of the late Lord Stafford concerning whose Tragedy though acted for the most part in the face of the whole Nation yet there have flown about in a manner as many and those contradictory Stories as there are Relaters and such as know least commonly talk most to compleat the Error It is true the Printed Tryal set forth by Authority is no wise liable to these gross mistakes But it hath swelled in the Press by forms c. To so vast a volumn that few can spare either money to buy it or time to read it Besides it is in a manner silent of matters chiefly designed for the Subject of this Treatise viz. My Lords Comportment Declaration Devotion Last Speech and other Occurrences which happened inclusively from the time of his Tryal to his final End Having therefore attained to a most exact and certain knowledge of these particulars I shall for the satisfaction of the curious and manifestation of Truth give together with an abstract of the whole Tryal and some occurrences concerning it a plain and sincere relation of what I know and can by unquestionable Evidence justifie to be true And herein I shall also totally abstain from any the least moralizing upon transactions whereby to forestal the Readers Judgment But contenting my self with a plain and candid Relation of things as I find them leave every one to the freedom of his own censure and verdict upon them SECT I. My Lord's BIRTH Education QUALITY c. WIlliam Howard Viscount Stafford was second Son to Thomas Earl of Arundel and Uncle to the now Duke of Norfolk In his youth he was Educated with all Care and Industry imaginable to improve in him the Endowments of Nature and Grace And to speak truth he was ever held to be of a Generous Disposition very Charitable Devout addicted to Sobriety inoffensive in his words and a lover of Justice When he arrived to years of maturity he married Mary descended from the antient Dukes of Buckingham Grand-child to Edward and Sister and sole Heiress to Henry Lord Stafford To whose Title he succeeded being created by the late King Charles of Glorious Memory Baron Anno 1640. And soon after Viscount Stafford During the time of the late bloudy Rebellion he suffer'd much for his Loyalty to the King Always behaving himself with that courage and constancy as became a Nobleman a good Christian and a faithful Subject After His present Majesties joyful Restauration he lived in Peace Plenty and Happiness Being blessed with a most virtuous Lady to his Wife and many pious and dutiful Children In which state he remain'd till the 66. year of his age when happened this Revolution of his fortune as follows SECT II. My Lords Imprisonment Charge and Arraignment c. ABout Michaelmas Anno 1678. Mr. Titus Oates formerly a Minister of the Church of England accus'd upon Oath before the King and Council not long after also before the two Houses of Parliament several Roman Catholicks some Persons of Quality and amongst the rest the Lord Viscount Stafford of High Treason for intending and designing the Death of the King the introducing of Popery and subversion of the Government c. My Lord though he immediately heard of this Impeachment yet relying as he said on his own Innocence never left his Family nor withdrew himself from his ordinary known Acquaintance and Affairs till the 25 th of October 78. when by Warrant from the Lord Chief Justice he was sent Prisoner to the Kings Bench and from thence soon after

the pretended Discoveries For proof of all which my Lord produced these Witnesses Mr. Sandbidge an Old Man and a Protestant attested That Dugdale was a Knave and notorious● known both by him and all the Countrey to be a Wicked Man Thomas Sawyer attested Dugdale went from my Lord Astons involv'd in deep Debts That whilst he was Bayliff to my Lord Aston he receiv'd and plac'd to my Lord's Account several Work-mens Wages which he never paid to the said Work-men Whereupon great Clamours and Complaints were made of him in the Countrey That being Arrested for Debt my Lord Aston would not own him for his Servant at which Dugdale Swore He would be reveng'd on him The same thing as to Dugdal's sinister dealing His being in Debt Imprison'd and Dissown'd by the Lord Aston were attested by Sir Walter Baggot Mr. Whitby a Justice of Peace and Mr. Phillips Minister of Tixal From hence my Lord drew a second Inference viz. That had the Lord Aston and the rest been Guilty as Dugdale accus'd th●m it was highly Improbable the said Lord should adventure to Exasperate Discard and leave to Goal and Ruin a Man at whose mercy they all lay and who might to retrieve his desperate Fortune by making Discoveries utterly destroy both their Designs and them To confront the Testimony of the foregoing Witnesses the Managers produced others in favour of Dugdale And as to the matters of 〈◊〉 Debts and Beggery Mr. Noble Stephen Colledge the Protestant Joyner lately Executed for High-Treason at Oxford and Mr. Boson a Lawyer depos'd That at Dugdale's entreaty they went with him to the Tower to assist him in adjusting his Accounts with the Lord Aston but could not accomplish it by reason my Lord would not till the return of a certain Councellour out of the Countrey let them see a Book wherein Dugdale said his Discharges were And that Dugdale told them my Lord Aston was Indebted to him things rightly stated 200 l. To this my Lord Stafford reply'd He should have something to say And desir'd the Lord Aston might be admitted to give an account of this matter But it was answer'd That the Lord Aston stood Indicted for the same Treason and could not be a Witness Then my Lord desir'd Mr. Lievtenant of the Tower might speak what he knew Hereupon Mr. Lievtenant declar'd That the Lord Aston would have come to an account with Dugdale in his the Lievtenants presence But that Dugdale put it off and said he would come some other time But from that time to this he never heard of him UPon these Testimonies the Managers made these following Observations First It was manifest from several Circomstances that Dugdale went not away from Tixall for Debt as seems here to be pretended but for fear of being apprehended for the Plot which argues he was then Conscious of his own Guilt in that matter Secondly Whereas Sawyer attests that Dugdale Swore he would be revenged on my Lord Aston because he would not own him for his Servant when Arrested for Debt If this were true yet seeing this Revenge was not intended against my Lord Stafford but against my Lord Aston It is Impertinent to be urged against Dugdale's present Evidence To which the Papists Answer To the first It is no wonder if at a time when Roman Catholicks were Vniversally suspected and persecuted on account of the Plot Dugdale though not Conscious of any Guilt either in himself or others Yet being then a Catholick and hitherto undetermined to set up for an Evidence was in some apprehension of coming into trouble and might therefore withdraw upon that Score But what is that to the present purpose Is it not also undeniably proved here That Dugdale was in Debt That for Debt he was arrested and Imprisoned That for his Misdemeanors and not for Religion he was discarded by his Master That at last Beggery had surrounded him Revenge possessed h●m and Desperation Seizing him If this hath been clearly proved 't is no hard matter to judge what was his End and aim in making his Discovevies And my Lords further Inferences hereupon are Solid and Good To the second The Evidence given of Dugdale 's Revenge was not produced as if the said Revenge was chiefly intended against my Lord Stafford but only to shew that Dugdale was now upon the point of bidding adieu to Conscience and Honesty And desirous to satisfie at once both his Malice and Penury He contrived his Plot after the Model given him by Oates and Bedlow wherein he accused some out of Revenge and others amongst whom my Lord Stafford as the most proper Persons to compleat the Number of Actors in his Tragick Farce IN defence of Dugdale's Reputation in point of Honesty Mr. Whitby declared that Dugdale had been long my Lord Aston's Servant received my Lord's Rents made his Bargains and Governed the rest of the Family That he dealt honestly with him That he had heard indeed some Trades-men complain he put them off without Money and would not pay them But that my Lord would hear nothing against him William Southal a Coroner deposed that he knew no ill of Mr. Dugdale that he was the Lord Aston's Bayliff and had a good repute with all those People who had dependence on the Family But that he himself never had any business with him Then he the said Southal gave a large relation how he had perswaded Dugdale being then in Custody for Debt to Discover the Plot By putting him in mind of his Duty and Allegiance to the King and assuring him if he would make a timely Discovery he should not only obtain His Najesty's Gracious Pardon but also a Reward of Two Hundred Pounds By force of which Argument Dugeale at last assented to make Discoveries and accordingly gave in his several Depositions first in the Countrey before two Justices of the Peace afterwards before the Council and lastly before the two Houses of Parliament Concerning this Southal the Lord Ferrers informed the Court That he had been very active against the King in the late Wars and had the Repute of a Pernicious Man against the Government To Impunge which information the Lord Brook declared in behalf of Southal that his Mother had employed him and found him honest in their Affairs And Mr. Gower Farther testified That he found Southal extraordinary zealous in prosecuting the Papists UPon these Evidences the Managers made these Observations First Mr. Whitby not only declares that Dugdale had deal● honestly by him But that my Lord Aston himself would hear nothing against him Secondly It is not always the Stewards fault if workmen to great Persons sometimes want their Wages Thirdly Mr. Southal an understanding zealous man had with much difficulty and strong Arguments the good fortune at last to succeed in perswading Mr. Dugdale to make a fair and plain Discovery of the whole Plot to the great happiness not only of Mr. Dugdale but of the whole Nation To

to be a Cheat and then in want thought him a tool fittest for his purpose the most easily prevailed upon and most proper to make a Knight of the Post So that the two last worthy Witnesses did by their Evidence rather confirm then lessen the belief of Dugdale's Tampering with Robinson herein UPon these several Evidences the Managers made these Observations First It was not likely that Dugdale a stranger to Robinson should attempt to Suborn him to Swear against a Person he knew not and in a matter whereof he was wholy Ignorant ●dly It doth not appear that Dugdale had any ill will to Moor that should induce him to Suborn Pol● to Swear against him Thirdly Both 〈◊〉 and ●ol● were Infamous men 〈◊〉 being a Common Cheat the other a Drunken Quarrelsom Fellow and seeming to favour the Plotters Fourthly Morral was but a Poor Barber of no Reputation and one who might easily be brought to say what he did To which the Papists answer To the first Robinson was no Stranger to Dugdale He was as the Earl of Macklesfield and Mr. Booth attested every where about Staffordshire remarkably known for Cheating a Dice Cock-fightings Races c. exercises also frequent with Dugdale himself Nor is it material that Robinson knew not my Lord Stafford nor any thing of him It was not Dugdale's business to find out a Man who to discharge a good Conscience would Swear what he knew But who to get Money would Swear what he knew not For which purpose Dugdale had good reason to think Robinson a very proper Instrument To the Second It is plain matter of Fact that Dugdale having accus'd and Imprison'd Moore for carrying away Evers but not able to prove it he would have hired Holt to make out his False Accusation To the third If Robinson and Holt were Cheats and Rogues my Lord well inferred they were the more likely to be chosen by Dugdale for such Imployments as he had for them Though for Holt the greatest offence laid to his Charge seems to be that he Quarrelled with Dugdale's Witnesses as thinking no honest man would take his part To the fourth Though Morral was Poor yet it doth not appear but that he was so honest as not to be Suborned to Perjury by Dugdale And therefore his clear and positive Evidence in this matter ought to stand good But let it be granted what the Managers contest for viz. That because Morral was poor Holt Quarrelsome and Robinson Infamous none of these three Witnesses ought to be believed What then will become of all the Kings Evidence as they term them What shall we believe or say of them Are they Persons of Repute Riches and Honour Are they not rather the Scum and Refuse of the Nation Why must credit be denyed to Beggers or Knaves when they accuse their Co-equals in probable matters without hopes of Gain And yet the same credit be allowed to the like Beggars and Knaves when they Swear against Persons of Honour Moral Impossibilities and Contradictions upon large hopes and promises of reward This the Papists take to be hard measure TO Counterpoise in some sort this charge of Subornation laid to Dugdale The Managers alledged the like proceedings on my Lords side To prove which Thomas Launder deposed That my Lord Aston●s Friends had Summoned him up to my Lord Aston's Tryal to give Evidence against Ansel and Dugdale and that he was to have an Horse to ride on and money in his Pocket Simon Wright Barber to Dugdale deposed That Mr. Plessington told him If he could find a way to take off Dugdale's Evidence or destroy him he should have seven hundred Pounds And that the said Plessington and others would have had him Swear point blank That Dugdale would have hir'd him to give Evidence against Mrs. Price and Mr. Tasborough My Lord at once to confound this Man by his own Testimony and further to detect the Subornation of Dugdale also in this matter produced a Letter or Paper Writ and Sign'd by Wright himself to Sir James Simmons In these words I can I bless God with a safe conscience declare upon Oath That Mr. Dugdale hath been unkind to me in taking his opportunity of my Poverty By reason of a private meeting of us two by his appointment He did at that time proffer If I would Swear against You and Mr. Gerrard he would Protect me as one of the Kings Evidence and I should not want money And in the Hall at Westminster he said If I did discover it that day at Mrs. Price's Tryal he would set me in the Pillory This I have own'd to his Face and shall not go back from this and more for fear nor favour So I rest as you shall find by your Servant Simon Wright This Letter Wright acknowledged to be his own Hand word for word But said Plessington and others had perswaded him to write it Thus the Man Swearing and Vnswearing contradictions against himself My Lord only reply'd See what you have under his own hand I have no more to say to him UPon this diversity of Evidence the Managers made this Observation That the Attempts made to Suborn Launder and Wright were manifest Signs my Lords Agents endeavoured by Sinister ways to Vindicate his Cause To which the Papists answer It is not conceivable how the Evidence given by Launder and Wright can draw the least suspicion of Subornation on my Lord or his Friends For the proposal made to Launder was by my Lord Aston's Friends and in behalf of my Lord Aston and not of my Lord Stafford Besides the words understood with that Candor and Sincerity they seem to have been spoken by my Lord Aston's Friends import no more then this That if Launder would like an Honest Man give true Testimony of what he knew against Ansel and Dugdale at my Lord Aston's intended Tryal at London his necessary Expences should be born and the convenience of an Horse provided for his Journey thither Where 's the Subornation here As for Wright indeed he is a person of that Matchless worth and hath given so clear proofs both of his own unshaken Integrity and Dugdale's Innocence that he hath highly deserved the Title Credit Dignity and other the Emoluments of an Associate to the Kings Evidence In fine he hath said so much both for himself and Dugdale the Papists know not what or how to say more THe last great Exception made by my Lord against Dugdale's Deposition was That Dugdale Swore in this very Tryal the Jesuits had Entrusted him with all their Letters that there came to his Hands whole Packets to and from several Persons in several places all containing most Damnable Treason many of which he said he opened Read and knew the Contents Yet though the preserving two or three nay even one single Letter under the Authors hand might have been so highly advantageous to the proving the Truth both of his own Evidence and the whole Plot in general Nevertheless he

such terms as might fully express all Duty and Allegiance to the King yet not entangle tender Consciences with Clauses and Provisoes disagreeable to Faith and no wise appertaining to Loyalty but neither did this succeed That afterwards he had offered some proposals as well to the Lord Chancellour at his House at Kensington as to the Duke of York concerning some lawful expedients conducing to the good as he thought both of Catholicks and the whole Nation And also about Dissolving the long Parliament the substance of which he likewise communicated to my Lord Shaftsbury who said He doubted not but that there would come great advantages to the King by it These he avouched were the chief and only Designs he ever had or knew of amongst Catholicks for promoting their Religion Of more then these he protested before Almighty God and their Lordships he was wholly Ignorant But this Declaration not being satisfactory towards the detecting any Damnable Conspiracy the Lords thought fit without any further Examination to remand him back to the Tower On this occasion there run about both Town and Countrey an universal Rumour That the Lord Stafford had now made a full and perfect Discovery of the whole Plot And that the Papists could not for the future have the Impudence to deny it after the Confession though to save his Life of so Honourable a Person But this proved a mistake And by the way it was very observable My Lords Adversaries took this false Alarm with so much eagerness and joy as sufficiently denoted they were not well assured of the truth of the former Evidence given against him SECT V. My Lord's Comportment and Exercise after Sentence THe greatest part of his time from his last Sentence to his final End he employed in serious Recolection and fervent Prayer wherein he seemed to receive a daily encrease both of Courage and Comfort as if the Divine goodness say the Papists intended to ripen him for Martyrdom and give him a taste of Heaven before-hand Indeed he behaved himself in all things like a Man whose Innocence had banished the Fear and horrour of Death Some few days before his Execution he received a Letter which because it is fouly suspected to have come from some Colledge or Seminary beyond Seas I shall here set it down verbatim to the end every one may see how the Priests treat their Penitents in the condition and circumstances my Lord was in My Lord THe Character I bear gives me some Title And the singular esteem I have for your Noble and Truly vertuous Person and Family gives me Confidence to present your Lordship in this your last and Grand Affair with a Consolatory or rather Congratulatory Letter As I daily make my Supplication to God on your behalf so I hope I may make my Addresses to you on Gods behalf You are chosen by the King of Kings to share with him in Immortal Crowns You are called from an Abyss of misery to the top of Felicity You now pay a debt on the score of Grace which is due and which you must shortly have paid to the course of Nature And herein my Lord you are adorned with all the Trophies of Jesus's Victory He was Condemned of High Treason by false Witnesses for the love of you And you stand Condemned of the same Crimes by the like Evidence for the love of him Yet you shall not die my Lord 'T is a mistake of this blind World you shall only pass from a state of Death to a state of Life True Life Eternal Life you shall be Transformed into him whose essence is to live In whom with whom and by whom you shall enjoy all that is good all that is lovely all that is pleasant And this enjoyment shall be in all its fulness ' altogether all at once without Interuption without Bound Limit or End The Omnipotent Creator of Heaven and Earth The searcher of Hearts The dreadful Judge of Men and Angels He who justly might otherwise peradventure have cast you into Eternal Fire From whose Sentence there is no Appeal He I say will now forgetful of past Frailties regard you with a merciful Eye with a pleasing Countenance a loving heart an open Arm an endeared affection Millions of Lawrels hang over your Head Thousands of Millions of Glories and Sweets attend you which neither Eye hath seen nor Ear hath heard nor hath entred into the heart of man The Virgin Mother shall meet and conduct you to her beloved Son The Apostles Martyrs and Confessors shall receive and accompany you And all the blessed Choirs of Saints and Angels shall Celebrate your victory and Sing Halleluja's to their Celestial King for his unspeakable goodness to you My Lord You were made for the enjoyment of God and now you arrive at the accomplishment of that End you owe to God all you have and all you are And now you restore to him all both what you have and what you are O happy Restauration where the advantage is wholly yours where Misery is turned into Bliss where Temporal into Eternal where God is found where Death as the Apostle saith is Gain The Innocence of your Cause The Dignity of your Religion for which you Suffer entitles you to the merits of the Cross and Incorporates You to the Bloud and Passion of Jesus your Saviour If we shall be dead with him saith St. Paul we shall live together with him If we suffer with him we shall Reign with him Hence our Saviour himself He that looseth his Life for me shall save it Again If any Man will serve me let him follow me And where I am there shall my Servant be also You are going to the Nuptials of the Lamb. God who is all good is pleased to Impart himself entirely to you Love hath made him wholly yours What need you fear What can you desire He that dyed for the love of you will now reap the Fruits of his pains and joy himself in you with delights proportionable to his own Goodness and Merits You are Select from amongst Thousands for the Espousals of Love Let nothing either past or present deject you nothing disturb you nothing retard you Let not your Heart be troubled saith our Saviour nor let it be afraid As for the Crimes for which you stand Condemned God and your own Conscience knows you are Innocent All un-interested Men believe you so Passion and prejudice against your Religion hath advanced the credit of Perjured Persons and influenced your Adversaries to carry on your Death Had you been no Catholick we all know you had never been a Condemned Man So that it is palpably manifest you Die for your Religion and for your Religion wrongfully traduced What greater comfort What greater glory What greater happiness can arrive to a true Christian Blessed shall you be saith our Saviour when Men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner

cannot rationally be supposed to stick at Perjury when advantageous to him And ought not by the Law of God or Man to be credited or admitted for an Evidence against any one But rather detested and abhorred by all good Men as undeserving the name of a Christian UPon this pressing Inference the Managers made this following Observation Suppose Dr. Oates did out of Levity or for want of being well grounded in his own turn to another Religion It is hard That the matter of changing his Religion when nothing else is laid to his charge should disparage his Testimony seeing many who have changed their Religion more then once Example Mr. Chillingworth are yet esteemed credible Persons To which the Papists answer To change from a wrong to a right Religion is no disparagement but Protestants will hardly allow Oates's first pretended change to be such However my Lord insisted not upon the changing but the feigning Religion Oates did not out of Levity or Conviction of Judgment as Mr. Chillingworth turn from his own to another Religion but remaining interiourly of the same belief he exteriourly renounced what he so believed and Sacrilegiously practised the direct contrary than which nothing can be more detestable Nay he affirmeth He often received the Sacrament and took Dreadful Oaths of Secrecy in pursuance of most Bloudy and Hellish Designs If this be true what credit can be given to a Monster accustomed and inured by his own confession to such Damnable Oaths But if it be False as indeed it is then is he Perjured in his Evidence Edward Turbervil's Deposition against my LORD THe last Witness that gave direct Evidence to my Lords Impeachment was Edward Turbervil who Swore That in the year 75 he was perswaded by his Friends to take upon him the Fryers habit at Doway That being weary of that state he left it and came into England for which he incurred the displeasure of his Friends and Relations who he said discountenanced him and could not endure to see him That hereupon he went into France and Arrived at Paris and became acquainted with the now Prisoner my Lord Stafford by means of two Priests Father Nelson and Father Turbervil That after a fortnights acquaintance and promise of Secrecy my Lord proposed unto him a way whereby as he said he might not only retrieve his credit with his Relations but also make himself an happy Man which way at last my Lord told him in direct terms was To take away the Life of the King of England who was an Heretick and consequently a Rebel against God Almighty For circumstantial instances of this Turbervil Swore That he had during that fortnights acquaintance frequent access to my Lord at his Lodgings That when he took leave of him to come for England his Lordship was troubled with the Gout and had his Foot on a Stool That my Lord had appointed him to wait for him at Diep in order to his coming over with him in a Yacht That accordingly Turbervil went to Diep but that being there my Lord writ him word He had altered his resolution and would take his Journey by the way of Callais and that he should hasten to attend his Lordship at London That hereupon he came into England but soon after returned again into France because not being willing to undertake my Lords proposals he was discountenanced by his Friends reduced to poverty and thought himself not safe even amongst his own Relations My Lord's Exceptions TO this Deposition my Lord pleaded in his defence That Turbervil had Perjured himself in several parts of this and other his Depositions First Turbervil here Swears my Lord made a Proposal to him in direct terms To take away the Life of the King Now my Lord proved That since the Discovery of the Plot the said Turbervil did absolutly Forswear any knowledge he ever had of any Design or Plot whatsoever against the King's Person Life or Government The Witnesses were these John Porter a Protestant attested That Turbervil told him several times He did verily believe neither the Lord Powis nor the rest of the Lords were in the Plot And the Witnesses that Swore against them he believed were all Perjured and could not believe any thing of it Porter answered If there was such a thing He Turbervil having been beyond Seas must certainly know of it Turbervil reply'd As he hoped for Salvation he knew nothing of it neither directly nor indirectly against the Kings Sacred Person nor Subversion of the Government And he further added Although I am a little low at present and my Friends will not look upon me yet I hope God Almighty will never leave me so much as to let me Swear against Innocent Persons and Forswear and Damn my self Mr. Yalden a Protestant and Barrister at Law attested That he heard Turbervil say in an heat these words viz. God damn me now there is no Trade good but that of a Discoverer But the Devil take the Duke of York Monmouth Plot and all for I know nothing of it To Confront these Testimonies the Managers produced one Mr. Powel and Mr. Arnold who deposed That Turbervil told them He had much to say in relation to the Plot but did not name any particulars fearing he said he might be discouraged in it UPon these Testimonies of Mr. Porter and Mr Yalden The Managers made these Observations First It is not probable that Turbervil designing to be a Discoverer should disable himself ever to be so by Swearing Horrid Oaths He knew nothing of the Plot. Secondly The Testimony of Porter and Yalden are opposed by the contrary Testimony of Powel and Arnold To which the Papists answer To the first It is not improbable but very likely that Turbervil as yet not fully resolved to make Ship-wrack of his Conscience and Honesty did often protest He knew nothing of the Plot And if the positive attestation of two credible Witnesses may be admitted for good Evidence It is not bare probability but just and solid proof that he did so And by consequence his present Discoveries ought not to be regarded otherwise then as the New and Gainful Inventions of a Perjured Man To the second The Testimony of Powel and Arnold hath no manner of weight against my Lord's Evidence but rather compleats the charge of Perjury against Turbervil For it is granted that Turbervil hath said and Sworn both to Powel Arnold and the whole Houses of Parliament He knew much of the Plot but this being directly contradictory to the dreadful Oaths here attested by Porter and Yalden and no wise denyed by Powel and Arnold It followeth by the Testimony of all the four Witnesses that Turbervil is guilty of Perjury SEcondly Turbervil Swears That during the Fortnights acquaintance with my Lord at Paris he had by means of the Priests frequent access to him at his Lodgings there Now my Lords Gentleman and Page who both then constantly waited on him attested They never once

saw Turbervil there And Turbervil himself acknowledged in Court He knew them not To qualify this Evidence Thomas Mort was called who deposed That he being at Paris and desirous to return into England Turbervil told him his Brother the Monk had introduced him into the Favour of a Lord by which means they might both of them have the convenience of passage in a Yacht which staid for my Lord at Diep That hereupon they went to Diep but finding no Yacht there Turbervil told him If they went to Calais they might go over with my Lord from thence in the Yacht At last they lighted on a Fisher-Boat at Diep and so came over in it But that this forementioned Lord was my Lord Stafford or that he ever saw Turbervil in my Lords Lodgings or Company at Paris or else-where he could not say UPon these Testimonies the Managers made this Observation viz. The Priests had such a transcendent Influence over my Lord as might gain admittance for any whom they pleased not only into my Lords House but also into my Lords Heart without the privity or knowledge of his Servants Now it plainly appears by the attestation of Mort that Turbervil through his Brothers the Monk's means was become my Lords Favourite To which the Papists answer It is not proved either that the Priests had such a transcendent Influence over my Lords House and Heart or that Turbervil through their means became a Favorite Mort indeed tells us Turbervil told him His Brother the Monk had Introduced him into the Favour of a Lord And this Favour only to come over with him in a Yacht For the Truth of which also he had only Turbervil's word and the thing it self never performed Must we from hence infer My Lord had given his Heart to the Priests and they had Introduced Turbervil into it A strange Inference But let it be granted my Lord had a real Friendship and Kindness for the Monks what then How is it proved they imployed their Interest with him in Trayterous Designs Why Turbervil Swears it Thus one Forgery is made use of to support another and nothing but proofless Fictions to make all out Yet to come more close to the present Evidence Had the Papists Introduced Turbervil into my Lords acquaintance and favour this could not be done Invisibly to the Servants some body must needs see and know when they came in and out My Lord was then in Lodgings and had none but two Servants about him Turbervil never pretends either the Priests or he made a secret of their visits Their accesses to my Lord he said were very frequent as the nature of the business and pretended intimacy with my Lord seem'd to require The condition of Turbervil was also such as might well render him desirous of the Servants acquaintance and Friendship especially being then as he said immediatly to go over in the Yacht with them and to continue employed in my Lords Designs and Service at London Now that a Man in these Circumstances should not know these Servants nor be known or so much as once seene by them is Morally Impossible THirdly Turbervil Swears That when he took leave of my Lord at Paris to come for England his Lordship was troubled with the Gout in his Foot Now my Lord protested in the presence of all that knew him he never had the Gout in all his life his Servants also who then lived with him viz. Mr. Furness and Mr. Leigh gave attestation They never knew him subject to that Infirmity only several years since he had been troubled with the Sciatica which my Lord confessed and the Earl of Stamford testified made him sometimes formerly though never at Paris walk with a Staff UPon these Testimonies the Managers made no Observations But the Papists Avouch here is also direct Perjury proved upon Turbervil by two credible Witnesses And though the subject of the Perjury seems not to be material to the main Accusation yet he that shall wilfully Perjure himself in any one Circumstance ought not to be credited in the whole Seing Nature it self abhors the Testimony of a Man who hath once Invoked Almighty God to bear Witness to a Lye FOurthly Turbervil Swears That after his refusing to be a Fryer he was discountenanced by the Lord Powis and others of his Friends and Relations so that he durst not appear amongst them Now my Lord proved by several Witnesses That after his return from the said Frjers he was civilly treated and charitably entertained by his said Friends and Relations To make this good John Minehead attested That Turbervil after his coming from Doway lay in the House of the Earl of Powis his former Master and was courteously entertained both by my Lord and the whole Family John Turbervil Brother to the Deponent attested He never knew that any of his Relations gave him an angry word but on the contrary when he went to Paris his Sister bestowed on him Seven Pounds to bear his Charges Upon which he said He would never trouble them more UPon these Testimonies the Managers made these Observations First Though Turbervil might per adventure as Minehead attests be civily treated by my Lord Powis in publick yet what Reproaches or unkind words might pass between my Lord and him in private Minehead might not hear Secondly It was no great Kindness in Turbervil 's Relations to give him Seven Pounds as his Brother attests never to see him more They rather purchased his absence then did him a Kindness by such a Favour To which the Papists answer To the first Groundless Surmises of private unkindnesses which none ever yet came to the knowledge of nor Turbervil himself so much as pretends is a strange way of clearing a Man in open Court from the guilt of Perjury to frame and fancy things that possibly might be and draw prejudicial Inferences from thence as if they actually had been is unjust proceeding To the second Turbervil as his Brother attests never had one angry word from his Relations and when his Sister gave him Seven Pounds it was not to purchase his absence nor did they turn him away But he himself ashamed it seems of his past misdemeanours and confounded at the goodness of his Friends Said He would never trouble them more FIfthly Turbervil in his Information given to the House of Commons Swore That he came to Live with the Lord Powis in the year 73. and came into England in the year 76. But the next day after he had given in his Information he altered the aforenamed Date and instead of 73. caused to be inserted 72. And instead of 76. caused to be inserted 75. which Alteration my Lord affirmed included Perjury UPon this proof the Managers made this Observation An honest man may mistake as to point of time in an Evidence given even upon Oath And to Rectifie such a mistake the very next day after it was committed denotes rather Tenderness of Conscience