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A79083 The severall copies of the kings letters, and messages, sent to the Parliament: first, about a treatie by commissioners, and then personally by himselfe: with the Parliaments severall answers thereunto, and some observations thereupon. With the copy of a paper under the Lord Inchiquins hand, concerning the Popes Nuntio now in Ireland, and his proceedings there about the bill of bargain and sale of that kingdome. This letter from the King to the Parliament, and their answers to His Majesty, with the observations thereupon, are printed and published according to order. England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I); Inchiquin, Murrough O'Brien, Earl of, 1614-1674.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1646 (1646) Wing C2771; Thomason E316_24; ESTC R8601 9,862 16

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been only for the necessary defence of Gods true Religion His Majesties honour safety and property the peace 〈◊〉 and security of his People you should 〈◊〉 a safe Conduct 〈◊〉 the persons mentioned in his Majesties Message of the 〈◊〉 this instant December which are to be sent unto you with Propositions for a well-grounded peace a thing so far from 〈◊〉 been denied at any time by his Majesty 〈…〉 desired the same that he believes hath been seldome if ever practised among the most 〈◊〉 and professed enemies much lesse from Subjects to their King But his Majesty is resolved that no discouragment 〈◊〉 ever shall make him falle of his part in doing his 〈…〉 put an end to these calamities which if not in time prevented must prove the ruine of this unhappy Nation and therefore 〈◊〉 once againe desire that 〈…〉 for those persons 〈◊〉 in his former Message and doth therefore consure you as you will answer to almighty God in that day when he shall make inquisition for all the bloud that hath and may be spilt in this un●aturall Warre as you tender the preservation and establishment of the true Religion by all the bonds of duty and allegiance to your King or compassion to your bleeding and unhappy Countrey and of charity to your selves that you dispose your selves to a true sense and imploy your hearts and all your faculties in a most serious endeavour together with his Majesty to set a speedy end to these wasting divisions and then he shall not doubt but that God will yet againe give a blessing of peace to this now distracted Nation Given at Oxford the 15. of December 1645. For the Speaker of the House of Peeres pro 〈◊〉 The Parliaments compleat Answer to both his Majesties former Letters which was sent by Sir Peter Killegrew May it please your Majestie THe Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England as W●stminster have received your Letters of the fifth and fifteenth of this 〈◊〉 December and having together with the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland taken the same into their serious consideration d● humbly returns this Answer They have in all their actions manifested to your Majestie and the world their sincere and earnest desires that a safe well-gro●inded peace might be setled in your three Kingdomes and for the obtaining so great a blessing shall ever pray to God and use their utmost endeavours and beseech your Majestie to beleeve that their not sending a more speedy answer hath not proceeded from any intention to retard the ●●ane● of putting an end to these present calamities by a happi● peace but hath 〈◊〉 o●casioned by the considerations and debates necessari● in a 〈◊〉 of so great importance wherein both Kingdomes are so much concerned As to your Majesties desire of a safe 〈◊〉 for the ●●●ing hither of the Duke of Richmond the Earle of Southampton John Ashburnham and 〈…〉 with 〈…〉 happie and 〈…〉 They 〈…〉 been made 〈…〉 under the pre●ence of peace and 〈◊〉 ●●●ved 〈…〉 cannot give way to a safe conduct ●●●ding to your 〈◊〉 desire But both Houses of the Parliament of England having now under their consideration Pro●●●tions and 〈◊〉 for the setling of a safe and well 〈…〉 which are 〈…〉 〈◊〉 to the 〈…〉 of the King 〈◊〉 of Scotl●nd doresolve after 〈…〉 King●●mes to pr●sens 〈…〉 all 〈…〉 〈◊〉 the 25 Decem● 1655. Gray of Wark Speaker of the House of Peeres pro tempore William Lenthall Speaker of the House of Comm●ons The Kings Majesties third Lester being the first Messiage●●● 〈…〉 Treatie with the Parli●ment CHARLES R. NOtwithstanding the strange and unexpected delayes which can be presidented by no former times to his Majesties two former Messages his Majestie will lay aside all expostulations 〈…〉 serving to loose 〈◊〉 then to contribute 〈◊〉 remedie to the evills which 〈◊〉 the present do afflick this distrected Kingdom therefore without ●●●ther preamble his Majestie thinks it most necessarie to send these ●●●positions thi● way which he intended to do by the persons mentioned in his former Message though he well knowes the great disadvantage which overtures of this kind have by the want of being accompanied by well i●structed Messengers His Majestie conceiving that the former Treaties have bither to proved ineffectuall chiefly for want of power in those persons that ●●●●ted as likewise because those from whom their power 〈◊〉 derived not possibly having the particular informations of ever●e severall debate could not give so cleare a judgement as was requisite in so important a businesse it therefore His Majestie may have the ingagement of the two Houses of Parliament at Westminster the Commissione●s of the Parliament of Sentland the Mayor Aldermen Common-Councell and Militia of London of the chiefe 〈◊〉 of 〈◊〉 Thomas Fairfax his Army and also of those in the Scots Army for his Majesties safe and free coming and abo●d in London or Westminster with such of his servants now attending him and their followers not exceeding in all the number of 300 for the space of 40. daies and after the said time for his free and safe repaire to any of his Garrisons of Oxford Worcester or Newark which his Majestie shall nominate at any time before his going from London or Westminster His Majestie propounds to have a personall Treaty with the two Houses of Parliament at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parli●ment of Scotland upon all matters which may conduce to the restoring of peace and happinesse to these miserable distracted Kingdoms and to begin with the three heads which were treated on at Vxbridge and for the better clearing of his Majesties earnest and sincer● intentions of putting an end to these unn●turall distractions knowing that point of security may prove the greatest obstacle to this most blessed worke His Majestie therefore declates that he is willing to commit the great trust of the Militia of this Kingdome for such 〈◊〉 and with such powers 〈◊〉 are exprest in the paper delivered by his Majesties Commissioners at Vxbridge the 6. of Februarie last to these persons following viz. the Lord Privy Se●●e Duke of Richmond Ma●quisse of Hartford Marquisse of Dorchester Earl of Dorset Lord Chamber●●in the Ear●● of Nor●humberland the Earle of Essex Earle of Southampton Earle of Pembroke Earle of Salisbury Earle of Manchester Earle of Warwick Earle of Denbigh Earle of Chichester the Lord Say Lord Seymour Lord Lucas Lord ●●ppington Mr. Denzill Holl●● Mr. Pierpoy●● M. Henry Bell●ssis M. Richard Spencer Sir Thomas Fairfa●● M. John Ashburnham Sir G●rvase Cliston Sir H. Vane jun. M. Robert Wallo● Mr. Thomas Chickley Mr. Oliver Cromwell and Mr. Philip Skippon supposing that these are persons against whom there can be to just exceptions But it this do not satisfie then his Majestie off ●s to name the on halfe and leaves the other to the election of the two Houses of Parliament at Westminster with the powers of limitation before mentioned Thus his Majestie cals God and the world to witnesse of his
The severall COPIES OF THE Kings LETTERS and MESSAGES SENT TO THE PARLIAMENT FIRST About a Treatie by Commissioners and then Personally by Himselfe With the PARLIAMENTS severall Answers thereunto and some Observations thereupon .. WITH The COPY of a PAPER under the Lord Inchiquins hand concerning the Popes Nuntio now in Ireland and his proceedings thereabout the Bill of Bargain and Sale of that KINGDOME These Letters from the King to the Parliament and their Answers to His Majesty With the Observations thereupon are Printed and Published according to Order London Printed for Jane Coe 1646. Per maximam amicitiam maxima fallendi copia Salust Jug IT was one of his policies out of whose actions sprang many of the Florentine Axiomes to give most assurance of his faith friendship to those men whom he first meant to deceive and dispoile of their Estates those therefore that upon such trust disarm themselves and put their swords into the others hands and guilty through their foolish credulity of their own proper ruine all that then can be done is to lament say when it is too late this was perfidiousness in them madnesse in us and therfore wise men know pacem conditones abn●ebant diserimen ac dedecus ostentan●os fidem in libidine victor●● Tacit hist 3. When Valentinois had no other probable way to surprize the Dukedome of Vrbine he comes to the Confines of Pe●ugia and treaets with Guidobald● the present Duke pretending to joyne with him against the common Enemy A truce was made between them Valen●inois enters secures his Artillery and disaim● the Duke and forces the souldiers to assist him against Oagly a town of the Dutch● takes that and in short space after all the rest of the State except only the forces of St. Leo. and Majuolo the poore Duke with his nephew the Provost of Rome being forced to flee the Country in Peasants attire Againe after Valentinous had effected this exployt he sets upon Camerin● makes Iulio Davarano Lord there of believe that he ●ill yeeld to some good composition with him 〈◊〉 comes to him to treat of the accord during the treaty he with his two Sonnes and the whole Towne is supprised this done he presently strangleth the Father and the Children and tyrannies over the Souldiers and Inhabitants The Parliament desire peace as earnestly and really as their soules can lay out for it but in actions of warr especially Cit●●● venit pereulam cum contemnitur And therefore the Parliament must looke before them lest ●uey stumble and behind them least they be overtaken and on either side which way soever it cometh we never was in greater Perill then when by treaties we have been flattered to ●eare it least wherefore upon a parley or overture we must not be secure but stand upon our guards if we expect safety as in times of greatest defyance least we suffer like Fabritiô Colonua who treating with Count Gaiazz● the 〈◊〉 in Capua upon expectation of a present accord 〈…〉 and slack guard upon the walls which they without 〈…〉 opportunity of being greedy of the spoyle gaue a ●odaine ●●●●●rious assault carried the place socked it and tooke th●se ●●●●ners which scaped massacre Many plots have been invented against this City and Kingdo●● they never tooke more then in times of treaty and to 〈◊〉 them now the Parliament can do no lesse then keepe the Enemy out of our quarters especially those who playd so foule before least we suffer like Pazzi the Flowrentive Commissary who though he had a faire Itum that divers principall men in the City had secretly conspired with Vitellozza to betray Arazzo wh● he then was yet would not believe that the hearts of so many as should be able to affect it could be poysoned with so pestilent a venum of treason he perswades himselfe that the Authority of the name publike would supply his neede in what he wanted and so by suffering those Malignan●s to remaine and not wis●ly providing to keepe them downe they comply with Vitell●zza and i● tumult● rise in Armes rescue the Captives out of prison secure Pazzi and his Officers and set open the gates to Vitellozza who thereby becomes compleate Conquerors of Arezz● to whom the souldiers become prisoners the Inhabitants slaves and their estates plundered These examples and many more which might be alleged may give us to understand the danger of treating with an Enemy or suffering them to remaine in our quarters And whereas his Majestie offers to treate himselfe in person with the Parliament names a militia and nominates other perticulars and makes many plausible expressions they looke into his actions to see if they be congruent as in things we have so in those we do each hath his proper tryall to prove the excellency thereof in his kinde ●●timà institutiò experentià gould by the ●ast the Diamant by his hardnesse Pearle by his water so the best discoverours of mens minds are their actions the best director of actions is Councell and the experience the Parliament therefore observe by what Councell his Majesty is led and by lamentable experience finde 1. That thereby much innocent blood hath been shed by those who have command and Commission from his Majesty by which authority ye tooke up Armes and remaine in an hostile way against the Parliament many Irish Rebells have been brought into this Kingdome as Grady divers of the Butlers Collonel O●eale that brake out of the Towne and many hundreds more received into his Maj. Army and forces and Garisons kept against the Parliament in severall places of the Kingdome 2. The like also hath been and still is done in Scotland many Irish Rebells and other frraaigne forces and notorious Papists are in Armes against the Parliament of Scotland Montr●●●e Mag●●●ell and others Margues H●n●ley a notorious P●pist severall times Irish have been transported thither 3. Had the Parliament had the command of Dublin and other parts kept against them by the Marques of O●●●d and others by authority from the King and the English sent thither not called back nor reliefe sent to those that stayd been kept from them Ireland might have been reduced before this but now the Lord Harbert of Ragland that Popish insendiary is gone over thither from the King to receive a great command and a nuntio from the Pope about trading for Ireland arrived as you may see by this following paper subscribed by the Lord Inthiquins one hand a Gentleman of Heroy●ke worth one that deserves much honour for his well managing of the affaires of that Kingdome within his limits A Copy of the Lord Inchiquin● Paper con●●●ning the proceedings of the Popes 〈◊〉 with the Rebels in Ireland SIR THere is lately an old Serp●●● a Limb of the 〈…〉 under his Holiness 〈◊〉 cals himself the 〈◊〉 of the Apostolique Sea to the confederate Catholique and is by 〈◊〉 ●●led Arch-Bishop and Pry●● of Jerman●● arrived in 〈◊〉 ●●●●●ed to keep life and vigor in the