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redress_v of_o grievance_n and_o oppression_n and_o that_o be_v in_o the_o charge_n against_o my_o lord_n of_o strafford_n for_o the_o instruction_n of_o may_n 1628._o on_o a_o petition_n by_o the_o inhabitant_n the_o petition_n be_v that_o they_o may_v make_v personal_a residence_n at_o least_o half_a a_o year_n but_o that_o relate_v to_o undertaker_n and_o other_o that_o have_v land_n and_o office_n there_o and_o so_o be_v for_o the_o same_o purpose_n that_o the_o land_n shall_v be_v safeguard_v but_o certain_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n between_o residence_n and_o restrain_v a_o resort_v hither_o to_o make_v complaint_n to_o his_o majesty_n it_o be_v true_a there_o shall_v be_v a_o residence_n they_o be_v not_o to_o depart_v without_o licence_n but_o if_o they_o have_v temporary_a occasion_n or_o reason_n of_o complaint_n it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o instruction_n that_o licence_n shall_v be_v deny_v my_o lord_n insist_o on_o this_o that_o it_o be_v the_o law_n of_o the_o 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