Selected quad for the lemma: lord_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
lord_n duke_n earl_n ormond_n 11,780 5 13.4357 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
B01877 A lette[r] from a gentleman in the country, to a member of the House of Commons in England; in reference to the votesof the 14th of December, 97. Relating to the trade of Ireland. Together with an answer to the said letter. / By Sir F. B. F. B. 1698 (1698) Wing B62; ESTC R170408 11,607 28

There is 1 snippet containing the selected quad. | View lemmatised text

us and I think a fault that we do not help them Your second Assertion is true in part Their Provisions are Cheaper but then let me tell you they are not so good as ours and their Butter and Cheefe is near as dear Your third and fourth Observations are so aparently False that one Word will Answer them both you say you have been twice in Ireland but besides your self I may venture to say there was never any man in it but can tell you there is not Timber to supply the tenth part of the Use of the Kingdom I have seen a Survey of all the Woods in that Island and except Shellela there is not so much valuable Timber in the whole as one Gentleman hath in England Surely then we are in no danger of their Building Ships or Tanning Leather Your Fifth Observation is of their Wool in which you are right but as for the multitude of Irish Spinners you are in an Error they are so far from being our Rivals in the Woollen Manufactury that this last year they could not get so much in all the Country as to cloath their small Army But however I think we have reason to look carefully into that Manufactury which is the Soul of all we have left of Trade and yet I see Advocates for the East-India Trade to the destruction of our Manufactury at home In this methinks we Act like ill Husbands that being Abused abroad Revenge themselves at home on their Wives and Children We are wheedl'd out of our Manufacturies by Designing Men amongst our selves kick'd out of our Fishing abroad and then like Sampson we pull down the House upon our selves to be reveng'd for our two Eyes So I take our Woollen Manufactury and Fishing to be But let us destroy Ireland beat our Wives and Children and we shall Recover all You end your Fifth Paragraph with that which you think the most unaccountable of all The suffering them to hold Parliaments Now Sir if you never read History and so are ignorant how the Crown of England came first to intituled to Ireland then it is great Assurance in you to talk of the Constitution of a Kingdom you know nothing of if you have Read you must know there was a Compact that they should hold Parliaments with the same Privileges as England and altho' they have by their own Parliaments abridged themselves by Poynings Law in some things yet have they still an Act of Parliament for Annual Parliaments and another Act that all Laws made in England before the Tenth of Henry VII should be in force in Ireland I believe you will own we had Parliaments in England before ●denry VII they have then the same Right 〈◊〉 hold Parliaments that we have but they are a poor People and must submit Have a care of that French Maxim we know not whose turn it may be next I remember in the Reign of Charles II. discoursing with the Duke of Ormond who I think take him every way was one of the greatest Men of that time upon the Tryal of the Earl of Shaftsbury his Grace said My Lord Shaftsbury was never my Friend yet were I a Commoner and one of his Jury I would starve before I would find him Guilty by straining the Law We must have a care of Constitutions and Laws they are of better use to preserve our selves than to take off our Enemies If you were of this opinion you would not be against Ireland's holding Parliaments have a care Sir of breaking into Constitutions we know not who may come next we are sure His present Majesty will preserve our Constitution and it 't is our happiness He is more tender of them then many of our selves but if we will destroy them in a good Reign there may come a time when our own Presidents may bebrought against us You end your Paragraph with an Invective saying You hope the House will make them Remember they were Conquered I remember to have seen a Book in this Reign by Order of Parliament Burnt by the Common-Hangman for Asserting that conquering Doctrine It is by our Laws that all the Monarchs of England and a monst the rest his present Majesty is declared to be King of Ireland de Jure when King of England de Facto● Now if you please to remember the Brittish of Ireland who are Proprietors of most of that Kingdom were as one man in the Interest of England fought as is said before for and with the King that came to deliver them from the Usurpation and Tyranny of the late King James for so it was He having lost his Title by Abdication before he came to Ireland And King William came there to rescue his Protestant Subjects in Ireland from the Ravage and Murders of the Rebellious Irish Subjects This I hope you will not make a Conquest if it be we have had two or three of them in this Reign by the Execution of Traytors at Tyburn You now come to your Expedients wich are like that of an English Sea Captain that being in danger of two Dunkirk Men of War a French Officer on Board him Asked the Captain what he should do for he dreaded being carryed into France Never fear said the Captain I wont be taken How can you be sure of that said the French Man I will first blow up my Ship reply'd the Captain at which Monsieur shrug'd his shoulders and said Par ma foy un tres bon expedient Anglois So are your Expedients as will appear presently I will repeat them in order and then one Answer will serve them all 1. That they should not Build or keep at Sea one Ship 2. That they be Bounded Prescribed in all their Trade by Act of Parliament here not only to the place they shall go but also to the Qualities and Natures of the Commodities they Export and to th● Timewhen they shall export that we may have the sir●● market 3. That they should not Fish but with Men an● Boats of England 4. That their Money be brought to the Standard 〈◊〉 England 5. That they hold no Parliament but be Governe● by the Parliament of England 6. That they be not permitted to make any Man● facturies but Linnen I told you before one Answer should serve 〈◊〉 them all and that shall be with a Question 〈◊〉 as a Porter made a Lord Mayor of London in 〈◊〉 Usurpers time for Regulating the Price of Bee● was Proclaming That none should be sold 〈◊〉 more then a Penny a Quart A Porter standing 〈◊〉 my Lord Mayors Horse call'd out that the● was the most material thing left out which wa● appointing who should drink that small Beer for 〈◊〉 swore he 'd drink none So Sir you should have appointed in your Expedients who should live in Ireland for no Englishman will And surely our Nation will not think it safe in any others Hands Methinks you make a bold stroke to propose Ireland should be Governed by the Parliament of England that in