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A25524 An answer to A letter from a gentleman in the country, to a Member of the House of Commons: on the votes of the 14th. instant. Relating to the trade of Ireland 1698 (1698) Wing A3314; ESTC R213992 8,975 41

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that one Word will Answer them both you say You have been twice in Ireland but besides your self I may venture to say there was never any man in it but can tell you there is not Timber to supply the tenth part of the Use of the Kingdom I have seen a Survey of all the Woods in that Island and except Shellela there is not so much valuable Timber in the whole as one Gentleman hath in England Surely then we are in no danger of their Building Ships or Tanning Leather Your Fifth Observation is of their Wool in which you are right but as for the multitude of Irish Spinners you are in an Error they are so far from being our Rivals in the Woollen Manufactury that this last year they could not get so much in all the Country as to cloah their small Army But however I think we have reason to look carefully into that Manufactury which is the Soul of all we have left of Trade and yet I see Advocates for the East-India Trade to the destruction of our own Manufactury at home In this methinks we act like ill Husbands that being Abused abroad Revenge themselves at home on their Wives Children We are wheedl'd out of our Manufacturies by Designing Men amongst our selves kick'd out of our Fishing abroad and then like Sampson we pull down the House upon our selves to be reveng'd for our two Eyes So I take our Woollen Manufactury and Fishing to be But let us destroy Ireland heat our Wives Children and we shall Recover all You end your Fifth Paragraph with that which you think the most unaccountable of all The suffering them to hold Parliaments Now Sir if you never read History and so are ignorant how the Crown of England came first to be intituled to Ireland then it is great Assurance in you to talk of the Constitution of a Kingdom you know nothing of if you have Read you must know there was a Compact that they should hold Parliaments with the same Privileges as England and altho they have by their own Parliaments abridged themselves by Poynings Law in some things yet have they still an Act of Parliament for Annual Parliaments and another Act that all Laws made in England before the Tenth of Henry VII should be in force in Ireland I believe you will own we had Parliaments in England before Henry VII they have then the same Right to hold Parliaments that we have but they are a poor People and must submit Have a care of that French Maxim we know not whose turn it may be next I remember in the Reign of Charles II. discoursing with the Duke of Ormond who I think take him every way was one of the greatest Men of that time upon the Tryal of the Earl of Shaftsbury his Grace said My Lord Shaftsbury was never my Friend yet were I a Commoner and one of his Jury I would starve before I would find him Guilty by straining the Law We must have a care of Constitutions and Laws they are of better use to preserve our selves than to take off our Enemies If you were of this opinion you would not be against Ireland's holding Parliaments have a care Sir of breaking into Constitutions we know not who may come next we are sure His present Majesty will preserve our Constitution and it is our happiness He is more tender of them then many of our selves but if we will destroy them in a good Reign there may come a time when our own Presidents may be brought against us You end your Paragraph with an Invective faying You hope the House will make them Remember they were Conquered I remember to have seen a Book in this Reign by Order of Parliament Burnt by the Common-Hangman for Asserting that conquering Doctrine It is by our Laws that all the Monarchs of England and amongst the rest his present Majesty is declared to be King of Ireland de Jure when King of England de Facto Now if you please to rememeer the Brittish of Ireland who are Proprietors of most of that Kingdom were as one man in the Interest of England fought as is said before for with the King that came to deliver them from the Vsurpation and Tyrany of the late King James for so it was He having lost his Title by Abdication before he came to Ireland And ●ing William came there to rescue his Protestant Subjects in Ireland from the Ravage and Murders of the Rebellious Irish Subjects This I hope you will not make a Conquest if it be we have had two or three of them in this Reign by the Execution of Traytors at Tyburs You now come to your Expedients which are like that of an English Sea Captain that being in danger of two Dunkirk Men if War a French Officer on Board him Asked the Captain what he should doe for he dreaded being carryed into France Never fear said the Captain I wont be taken How can you be sure of that said the Frenchman I will first blow up my ship reply'd the Captain at which Monsieur shrugg'd his shoulders and said Par ma foy un tres bon expedient Anglois So are your Expedients as will appear presnntly I will repeat them in order and then one Answer will serve them all 1. That they should not Build or keep at Sea one ship 2. Taht they be Bounded and Prescribed in all their Trade by Act of Parliament here not only to the Place they shall goe but also to the Qualities and Natures of the Commodities they Export and to the Time when they shall Export that we may have the first market 3. That they should not Fish but with Men and Boats of England 4. That their Money be brought to the Standard of England 5. That they hold no Parliament but be Governed by the Parliament of England 6. That they be not permitted to make any Manufacturies but Linnen I told you before one Anser should serve for them all and that shall be with a Question such as a Porter made a Lord Mayor of London in the Usurpers time for Regulating the Price of Beer was Proclaiming That none should be sold for more then a Penny a Quart A Porter standing by my Lord Mayors Horse call'd out that there was the most material thing left out which was appointing who should drink that small Beer for he swore he 'd drink none So Sir you should have appointed in your Expedients who should live in Ireland for no Englishman will And surely our Nation will not think it safe in any others Hands Methinks you make a bold stroke to propose Ireland should be Governed by the Parliament of England that in English is Loping off one of the Three Kingdoms from the Crown Your Scheme of Government exceeds all I ever read of you would make Ireland to be a Commonwealth but none of the Country to be in the Government sure sombody need Govern you tho it were in Bedlam You and your