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A91048	The proceedings in the late treaty of peace· Together with severall letters of his Majesty to the Queen, and of Prince Rupert to the Earle of Northampton, which were intercepted and brought to the Parliament. With a declaration of the Lords and Commons upon those proceedings and letters. Ordered by the Lords and Commons, that these proceedings, letters, and declaration be forthwith printed. H. Elsing Cler. Parliament. Dom. Com.	Rupert, Prince, Count Palatine, 1619-1682.; Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649.; Henrietta Maria, Queen, consort of Charles I, King of England, 1609-1669.; Northampton, Spencer Compton, Earl of, 1601-1643.; England and Wales. Parliament.	1643 (1643)	Wing P3571; Thomason E102_6; ESTC R11174	75,243	98

Cessation shall not extend to restraine the setting forth or imploying and Ships for the defence of his Majesties Dominions Provided that his Majesty be first acquainted with the particulats and that such Ships as shall be set forth be commanded by such persons as his Majestie shall approve of 7 Lastly that during the Cessation none of his Majesties subjects be imprisoned otherwise then according to the knowne Lawes of the Land And that there shall be no plundring or violence offered to any of his Subjects And his Majesty is very willing if there be any scruples made concerning these propositions and circumstances of the Cessation That the Committee for the Treaty nevertheless may immediately come hither and so all matters concerning the Cessation may be here settled by him H. Elsynge Cler. Parl. D. Com. His Majesties Answer to the Articles of Cessation sent to His Majestie HIS Majestie hath sent a safe Conduct for the Earle of Northumberland Mr. Pierpoint Sir William Ermyn Sir John Holland and Mr. Whitlocke but hath not admitted the Lord Say to attend him as being excepted against by name is his Proclamation at Oxford of the third of November and by Writ to the Sheriffe proclaimed then in that County in which his Majesties Intention is declared to proceed against him as a person guilty of high Treason and so falling to be within the case of Sir Iohn Evelin who upon the same Exception was not admitted to attend his Majestie with the rest of the Committee at Colebrooke in November last But his Majestie doth signifie that in case the House shall thinke fit to send any other person in the place of the Lord Say that is not included in the like Exception his Majesty hath commanded all his Officers Souldiers and other subjects to suffer him as freely to passe and repasse as if his name had been particularly comprised in this safe Conduct His Majestie is content that his Proposition concerning the Magazines Forts Ships and Revenue and the Proposition of both Houses for the disbanding of the Armies shall be first Treated of and agreed of before the proceeding to treat upon any of the other Propositions And that after the second of His Majesties and the second of theirs be treated on and agreed of and so on in the same order And that from the beginning of the Treaty the time may not exceed Twenty dayes in which he hopes a full Peace and right understanding may be established throughout the Kingdome H. Elsynge Cler. Parl. D. Com. The last Articles of Cessation now sent to His Majestie THe Lords and Commons in Parliament being still carried on with a vehement desire of Peace that so the Kingdome may speedily be freed from the desolation and destruction wherewith it is like to be overwhelmed if the warre should continue Have with as much expedition as they could considered of the Articles of Cessation with those alterations and additions offered by his Majestie unto which they are ready to agree in such manner as is exprest in these ensuing Articles viz. 1 That all manner of Armes Ammunition Victuall Money Bullion and all other Commodities passing without a safe Conduct from the Generalls of both Armies as well of his Majesties as of the Armies raysed by the Parliament may be stayed and seized on as if no such Cessation were agreed at all 2 That all manner of persons passing without such a safe Conduct as is mentioned in the Articles next going before shall be apprehended and detained as if no such Cessation were agreed on at all 3 That his Majesties Forces in Oxfordshire shall advance no neerer to Windsor then VVheatly and in Buckinghamshire no neerer to Aylesburie then Brill and that in Barkeshire the Forces respectively shall not advance neerer the one to the other then they shall be at the day to be agreed on for the Cessation to begin And that the Forces of the other Army raysed by the Parliament shall advance no neerer to Oxford then Henley and those in Buckinghamshire no neerer to Oxon then Alisbury and that the Forces of neither army shall advance their Quarters neerer to each other then they shall be upon the day agreed on for the Cessation to begin 4 That the Forces of either army in Glocestershire VVilts and VVales as likewise in the Cities of Glocester and Bristoll and the Castle and Towne of Berkley shall be guided by the rule exprest in the later part of the precedent Article 5 That in case it be pretended on either side that the Cessation is violated no act of Hostilitie is immediately to follow but first the party complayning is first to acquaint the Lord Generall on the other side and to allow three dayes after notice given for satisfaction and in case satisfaction be not given or accepted then five dayes notice to be given before Hostilitie begin and the like to be observed in the remoter armies by the Commanders in Chiefe 6 That all other forces in the Kingdome of England and Dominion of Wales not before-mentioned shall remayn in the same Quarters and places as they are at the time of the publishing of this Cessation and under the same Conditions as are mentioned in the Articles before And that this Cessation shall not extend to restrain the setting forth or employing of any Ships for the defence of his Majesties Dominions 7 That as soon as his Majesty shal be pleased to disband the Armies which both Houses earnestly desire may be speedily effected and to disarme the Papists according to Law the Subjects may then enjoy the benefit of peace in the liberty of their persons goods and Freedom of Trade in the mean time the Generals and Commanders of the Armies of both sides shall be enjoyned to keep the Souldiers from plundering which the two Houses of Parliament have ever disliked and forbidden And for the speedy setling of this so much desired Peace they have thought good to send their Committees with Instructions that if his Majesty be pleased to consent to a Cessation so limited and qualified they may forthwith proceed to treat upon the Propositions and because the time is so far elapsed in these preparations they desire the Cessation may begin the five and twentieth of this instant March or sooner if it may be and in the mean time notice to be given to all the Forces in the severall and remote parts and the Commanders Officers and Souldiers are enjoyned to observe this Cessation accordingly to which they hope and pray that God wil give such a blessing That thereupon Peace Safety and Happines may be produced and confirmed to his Majesty and all his People H. Elsing Cler. Parl. Dom. Com. Instructions agreed on by the Lords and Commons in Parliament for Algernoon Earle of Northumberland William Lord Viscount Say and Seale William Pierpoint Esquire Sir William Armyn Baronet Sir Iohn Holland Baronet and Bulstrode Whitlock Esquire Committees appointed to attend his Majestie upon the Propositions made by his Majestie

upon the matter all the Propositions made by his Majesty which did not in Tearmes agree with those presented to him are utterly rejected For these Reasons and that this Entrance towards a blessed Peace and Accommodation which hath already filled the hearts of the Kingdome with Joye and Hop may be improved to the wished end his Majesty desires that the Committee now sent may speedily have liberty to treate debate and agree upon the Articles of Cessation in which they and all the world shall find that his Majestie is lesse sollicitous for his owne Dignity and Greatness then for his subjects Ease and Liberty And Hee doubts not upon such a Debate all differences concerning the Cessation will be easily and speedily agreed upon and the benefit of a Cessation bee continued and confirmed to his People by a speedy disbanding of both Armies and a sudden and firme Peace which his Majesty above all things desires If this so reasonalbe equall and just Desire of his Majesty shall not be yeelded unto but the same Articles still insisted upon though his Majesty next to Peace desires a Cessation Yet that the not agreeing upon the one may not destroy the hopes of nor so much as delay the other He is willing however to Treate even without a Cessation if that bee not granted upon the Propositions themselves in that order as is agreed upon and desires the Committee here may be enabled to that effect In which Treaty Hee shall give all his Subjects that satisfaction That if any Security to enjoy all the Rights Priviledges and Liberties due to them by the Law or that happinesse in Church and State which the best times have seene with such farther acts of Grace as may agree with his Honour Justice and Duty to his Crowne and as may not render Him lesse able to protect His Subjects according to his Oath will satisfie them Hee is confident in the mercy of God that no more pretious blood of this Nation will be thus miserably spent My Lord and Gentlemen VVHereas by your former Instructions you are tyed up to a circumstance of time and are not to proceed unto the Treaty upon the Propositions untill the cessation of Arms be first agreed upon You are now authorized and required as you may perceive by the Votes of both Houses which you shall herewith receive to Treat and debate with His Majesty upon the two first Propositions according to those Instructions for four dayes after the day of the receipt hereof notwithstanding that the Cessation be not yet agreed upon Your Lordships most humble servant Manchester Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore March 24. 1642. Received March 25. Die Veneris 24. Martij 1642. Resolved upon the Question by the Lord and Cōmons in Parliament THat the Committee at Oxon shall have power to Treat and Debate with His Majesty upon the two first Propositions according to their Instructions for four dayes after the day of the receipt of this Message notwithstanding that the Cessation is not yet agree upon Resolved c. THat the Committee formerly appointed to prepare the Articles of Cessation and Instructions for the Committee at Oxon shall consider of an Answer to be made to His Majesties Message this day received And likewise prepare Reasons to be sent to the Committee for them to presse in the Treaty and Debate upon the former Articles of Cessation And to shew His Majesty the grounds why the Houses cannot depart from those former Articles John Brown Cler. Parliamentorum The Votes of both Houses and the Copy of the answer to His Majesty Received Martii 25. 1642. May it please Your Majesty VVEe Your Loyall Subjects the Lords and Commons in Parliament having received a Message from Your Majesty In which you are pleased to expresse Your Selfe not to be satisfied with the Articles of Cessation Presented unto You by our Committee now attending You at Oxford and yet a signification of Your Majesties willingnesse to Treat upon the Propositions themselves even without a Cessation Do with all humblenesse give our consent that our Committee shall have power to Treat and debate with your Majesty upon the two first Propositions according to their Instructions for four dayes after the day of the receit of this Message notwithstanding that the Cessation be not yet agreed upon That as much as in us lyes there may be no delay in the proceedings for the obtaining of a blessed Peace and the healing up the miserable breaches of this distracted Kingdom And do purpose to represent very speedily unto your Majesty those just Reasons and grounds upon which we have sound it necessary to desire of your Majesty a Cessation so qualified as that is whereby we hope you will receive such satisfaction as that you will be pleased to assent unto it and being obtained we assure our selves it will be most effectuall to the safety of the Kingdom and that Peace which with so much zeal and loyall affection to your Royall person and in a deep sence of the bleeding condition of this poor Kingdom we humbly beg of your Majesties justice and goodnesse John Brown Cler. Parl. A Letter from the E of Manchester to the E. of Northumberland Received March 29. MY Lord I am commanded by the Peers in Parliament to send unto your Lordship the Reasons which both Houses think fit to offer unto His Majesty in pursuit of their adhering to their former Resolution concerning the Articles of the Cessation of Arms. MY Lord you shall likewise receive additionall Instructions from both Houses and a Vote which I send you here inclosed My Lord this is all I have in command as Your Lordships most humble servant Manchester Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore Mar. 27. Die Lun●… 27. Martii 1643. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords in Parliament THat the E. of Northumberland their Committee at Oxford is therby authorized to acquaint His Majesty with all their Instructions upon the two first Propositions Joh Brown Cler. Parl. Additionall Instructions March 29. Additionall Instructions agreed upon by the Lords and Commons in Parliament for Algernon Earl of Northumberland William Viscount Say and Seale William Pierpoint Esq Sir William Armine Baronet Sir John Holland Baronet and Bulstrode Whitlock Esq Committees attending His Majestie upon the Cessation and Treaty YOu shall alter the words mentioned in his Majesties third Article in this maner leaving out the words The Army raised by the Parliament and putting in these words The Army raised by both Hou●es of Parliament You shall humbly present to his Majesty the Reasons herewithall sent from both Houses for their not assenting to those alterations and additions to the Articles of Cessation offered by his Majesty You shall presse the force of those Reasons or any other as there shall be occasion in the best manner you may to procure his Majesties a●s●… to those Articles of Cessation which if you shall obtain within two dayes after the day of

their reach and their army would then be at leisure to be emploied as Collectors aswell of the old impositions which in most places without their army they cannot leavy as of any such new one and vast sums would and might by this means be raised to the destruction of his Subjects extraordinary advantage to them and great disadvantage to his MAJESTIE Who can neither obtaine His owne Consent to take the like courses Nor in case Hee could is Hee so quartered as to have within the power of his army without breach of the cessation by drawing neerer to their forces any such Citie or so many so rich and so fresh Counties as they have to retire into to that purpose So that as nothing is more just in it selfe and for his people than such a limitation so nothing can be more unequall to His Majesty or more advantagious to them than the admission of or connivence to any such practises upon His people This cessation to begin on the 9. of April and to continue to the end of 20. dayes from the 25. of March. And His Majesty desires that the Treaty may proceed upon the Propositions in order upon which His Majesty hath an earnest desire that a firm and stable peace may be agreed on and both Armies speedily disbanded otherwise if during this cessation in the Articles of which His Majesty in order to peace hath yeilded to things manifestly unreasonable and prejudiciall to His Army the Treaty be not dispatched His Majestie cannot without manifest ruine to His Army principally that of the North be able to contain Himself beyond this time now limited for the cessation in the quarters in which He hath so long bin and now is and which will hardly be able to hold out so long but must bee forced to remove as He shall finde agreeable for His occasions And in case any delay be made in consenting to these His Majesties limitations or that the Houses shall reject this His offer of cessation His Majesty as He hath lately desired by a Proposition to both Houses delivered to their Committee to which He hath yet received no Answer so He doth earnestly continue to desire That the Treaty it self may not be delayed or interrupted by it but that their Committee may be enabled to proceed upon it in the mean while Copia vera Jo Brown Cler Parliamentorum Addition of four dayes longer to Treat April 4. 1643. VVE humbly acquaint Your Majesty that we received this morning the resolution of both Houses of Parliament whereby farther time is given to us to Treat upon the two first Propositions viz. The first Proposition of Your Majesty and the first Proposition of both Houses And that the time prescribed for the treaty upon the two first Propositions shall be untill Friday night Northumberland John Holland B. Whitelocke Will. Pierrepoint Will. Armyne A Letter from both Houses Received April 8. 1643. VVE are commanded to send these inclosed Instructions to you from both Houses of Parliament By which the resolutions of the Houses will appear unto you This is all we have in command and rest Westminster the 7 of April 1643. Your humble servants MANCHESTER Speaker pro tempore William Lenthall Speaker of the Commons House Instructions concerning the Cessation Received April 8. 1643. A farther Addition of Instructions agreed upon by the Lords and Commons in Parliament for Algernon Earl of Northumberland William Pierrepoint Esquire Sir William Armyne Baronet Sir John Holland Baronet and Bulstrode Whitelock Esquire Committees of both Houses of Parliament attending His Majesty at Oxon. YOu are hereby to take notice That the two Houses have considered his Majesties Answer to their reasons concerning the Cessation wherein there are divers expressions which reflect much upon the honor and Justice of the Houses and might occasion particular Replies Yet at this time they desire to decline all contestation their wishes and endeavours being earnestly bent upon the obtaining a speedy peace For which cause they do not think good to consume any more of that time allowed for the treaty in any farther debates upon the Cessation concerning which they find his Majesties expressions so doubtfull that is cannot be suddenly or easily resolved and the remainder of the time for the whole treaty being but seven dayes if the Cessation were presently agreed it would not yeild any considerable advantage to the kingdom Wherfore you shall desire his Majesty That he will be pleased to give a speedy and positive Answer to their first Propostion concerning the disbanding that so the people many not have only a shadow of peace in a short time of Cessation but the substance of it in such manner as may be a perpetuall blessing to them by freeing the Kingdome from those miserable effects of War the effusion of English bloud and desolation of many parts of the Land For the obtaining of which happinesse The Lords and Commons have resolved to enlarge your power That if you shall not have fully agreed upon the two first Propositions before Friday night you may notwithstanding any former restraint proceed to treat upon them according to the Instructions formerly given you although the Articles of the cessation are not agreed upon And those two first Propositions being concluded the two Houses will thereupon give you further instructions to proceed to the other Propositions that so the whole treaty may be determined within the twenty dayes formerly limited to be reckoned from the 25. of March last which can admit no alteration or enlargement without manifold prejudice and danger to the whole Kingdom John Brown Cler. Parliamentorum The Paper to the King upon the Instructions for disbanding Received April 8. 1643. BY Instructions this day received from both Houses of Parliament we humbly conceive that we are to acquaint Your Majesty That they have taken into consideration Your Majesties Answer to their reasons concerning the cessation wherein there are divers expressions which will occasion particular replies which at this time they desire to decline their wishes and endeavours being earnestly bent upon the obtaining a speedy peace for which cause they do not think good to consume any more of the time allowed for the treaty in any farther debates upon the cessation concerning which they find your Majesties expressions so doubtful that it cannot be suddenly or easily resolved and the remainder of the time for the whole treaty being but 7 dayes if the cessation were not presently agreed it would not yeeld any considerable advantage to the kingdom Wherfore we are required to desire your Majesty to give a speedy and positive answer to the first proposition concerning the disbanding that so your subjects may not only have a shadow of peace in a short time of cessation but the substance of it in such manner as may be a perpetuall blessing to them by freeing the Kingdom from those miserable effects of War the effusion of English bloud and desolation of many parts of the land Northumberland

Law was His own as His Majesty was pleased to expresse it and take from Him should be restored unto Him without any conditioning or new lymitations to be put upon Him or His Ministers And now the Lords and Commons will referre it to the world to judge whither their demands were not such and so moderate as was fit and necessary for them to make and just and reasonable for His Majesty to assent unto wherein they may be pleased to consider That this was a Treaty for the disbanding of two Armies and Forces raised in opposition each to other That the Towns Forts and Ships are a great part of these Forces and of the strength of that side that possesseth them That for any one side to demand the possession and power thereof and the other side to disband their forces and quit themselves of all their strength is in effects a totall disbanding of that side and a continuing the forces of the other which must be granted to be most unequall And therefore the Lords and Commons did think it just and honourable That the remaining strength should be put into such hands as both sides might trust Secondly That their demand to have the Forts and Castles into the hands of such persons as both Houses should confide in was a Proposition warranted by the frequent * The fourth of Edward the third Articw 1. against Roger Mortimer The King had put to him four Bishops four Earls and four Barons without whose content or of some of them no great businessle was to be transacted Rot. Parham 13 E. 3. N 15 16 The whole N●… d●sposed of by Parliament N. 13 14 Admiralls appointed and Instructions given to them N 32 Instructions for the defence of Jersey and a Deputy Governour apointed in Parliament N 35. Souldiers of York Nottingham c to go at the cost of the Countrey and what they are to do N. 36 A Clark appointed for payment of the r●wages by the oversight of the Lord Percy and Nevill N. 38 Sir Walter Creak appointed keeper of Berwick N. 39. Sir Tho de Wake appointed to set forth the Array of souldiers for the County of York and N. 40 41 42 4 others for other Counties XILLI E. 3. N. 36. The Parliament agreeth that in the Kings absence the Duke of Cornwall shall be Keeper of England N. 35. They appoint the Archbishop of Canterbury the Earls of Lancast Warton and Huntington Councellors to the Duke with power to call such others as they shall think fit N. 19. Certain appointed to keep the Islands and Sea Coasts N. 42. The Lord of Mowbray appointed Keeper of Berwick R 48 Commission to the L. Mowbray of the Iustices of Lentham N. 53 54. c Commissions of Arra to the Earl of Angou and others XV. E. 3. N. 15. That the Chancellors ch●ef Iustices Treasurers Chancello●s and Barons of the Exche quer c may be chosen in open Pariament and there openly sworn to observe the Law Answer thus That as they fall by death or otherwise it shall be so done in the choyce of a new with you assents c L.E. 3 N. ●0,11 Ordered in Parliament That the King should have at the least tea or twelve Councellors without whom no weighty matters should passe c. N 15. A Commission to the L. Perey and others to appo●nt able persons for the defence of the Marches of the East-Riding 1. R. 2. N. 18,12 The Parliament wholly disposeth of the Education of the King and of the Officers c. N. 51. Officers for Gascoine Ireland and A●ton Keepers of the Ports Castles c. II R. 2. Rot. Parl. pars 2. artic 39. The Admiralry N. 37 In a chedule is containe the order of the E of Northumb and others for the desence of the North Sea-Coasts and confirmed in Parliament VI. R. 2. N 11. The Proffer of the Bishop of Norwich to keep the Sea Coasts and accepted in Parliament VIII R. 2. 11.16 The names of the chief Officers of the Kingdom to be known to the Parliament and not to be removed without just cause XI R. 2. N 23. No persons to be about he King or intermedole with the Affairs of the Realm other then such as be appointed by Parliament XV. R. 2. N 15 The Commons name the person to treat of a Peace with the Kings enemies Rot. Parl. 1 H 4 N. 106. That the King will appoint able Captains in England and Wales Stat. 4 H. 4 cup. 31,32,33 primed The wels h men shall bea Office V. H. 4. N. 16. The King at the request of the Commons removed his Confessor and three other men from about him N 37. At the Request of the Commons nameth divers Privy Councellors VII VIII H. 4.26 Power given to the Merchants to name two persons to be Admiralls VII VIII H. 4. N 31 Councellors appointed by Authority of Parliament N 26. Commissions granted in Parliament to keep the Sea Rot. Parl. ● H. 6. N 61 Chancellor Treasurer and Privy Seal appointed by Parliament N. 24. Protector and Defensor Regni appointed by Parliament N 26. Privy Councellors II. H. 6 N 15. Councell named by Parliament IV. H. 6. N. 19. The Duke by common consent in Parliament appoints a Deputy to keep Berwich Castle XIV H. 6 N. 10 The keeping of the Town of Callice is committed to the Duke of Glo●cester by Indenture between him and the King and confirmed in Parliament XXXI H. 6 N 41. Roch Earl of Salubury and others are appointed by Parliament to keep the Seas Tunnage and Poundage appointed to them for three yeers 33 H. 6 N. 27. Discharged 39 H. 6 N. 32. The Duke of York made by Parliament Generall Stat 21 ●ac cap. 34. Treasurers and a Councell of War appointed by Parliament and an Oath directed to be by them taken The Earl of Essex made Lord Lievt of the County of Yorke Sir Io. Conniers Lievt of the Tower upon the desire of the Lords and Commons this Parliament With very many more Presidents which to avoid prolixity are purposely omitted Presidents of former times whereby it appeareth that many other Parliaments have made the like and greater demands and His Majesties Predecessors have assented thereunto Thirdly It was a Proposition which his Majestie himself in severall Declarations of his own affirmed to be reasonable and just for in his Majesties Answer to a Petition of the house of Commons January 28.1641 He He expresseth thus For the Forts and Castles of the Kingdom his Majestie is resolved they shall be in such hands and onely in such as the Parliament may safely confide in c. And in another Answer to two Petitions of the Lords and Commons delivered the second of February 1641. His Majesty useth these words That for the securing you from all dangers or Jealousies of any His Majesties will be content to put in all the places both of Forts and Militia in the sevarall Counties such persons as both Houses of Paliament shall

and be of force within which time notice is to be given as well by his Majesty as by the Lords and Commons to the severall Generalls Commanders and Souldiers respectively to observe the same cessation as it is qualified and limited in those Articles last presented to Your Majesty Northumberland John Holland B. Whitlocke Will Pierrepoint Will. Armyne The Kings question concernning removall of quarters March 31 1643. VVHether by denying the Communication of quarters you intend to restrain the quarters of either Army from each other As that the forces at Abbington may not remove to Banbury or the forces at Henly may not remove to Alisbury or to any other places within the quarter of each army respectively Falkland The Committees answer concerning removall of quarters Mar. 31. 1643. IN answer to Your Majesties question upon the third Article of the Cessation We humbly conceive That it is not intended to restraine the quarters of their Army respectively from each other So as they come not neerer the quarters of the other Army But that the forces at Abbington may remove to Banbury or the forces at Henly may remove to Alisbury or to any other place within the quarters of each Army respectively So as the Forces of either Army respectively come not neerer the quarters of the other armie then they shall be upon the day agreed on for the cessation to begin John Holland B. Whitelocke Northumberland Will. Pierrepoint Will. Armyne The Kings Questions concerning the Cessation March 31. 1643. HIs Majesty desires to be resolved by the Committee of Lords and Commons Whether the Forces of Oxford may not as well go to Reading as the Forces of Henly may to Alisbury Whether His Majesties Forces belonging to the Army at Oxford may not go to Shrewsbury or any other place backwards from London so that in their march they approach no neerer to any quarters of any of the contrary Armies then some of His Majesties Forces shall quarter upon the day agreed upon for the Cessation to begin Falkland The Committees answer concerning the Cessation March 31. 1643. VVE humbly conceive That by our Instructions we are not enabled to give any resolution upon Your Majesties questions concerning the remove all of quarters other than we have already given Northumberland John Holland B. Whitlocke Will. Pierrepoint Will. Armyne A Letter from the Earle of Manchester April 4. MY LORD I Am commanded by the Lords in Parliament to send unto your Lordship these enclosed Votes for the giving your Lordship and the Committee longer time to treat of the first Propositions This is all I have incommand as April 2. Your Lordships most humble servant MANCHESTER Speaker of the House pro tempore Votes of both Houses for four dayes longer to Treat April 4. Die Luna Aprilis 3. 1643. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled THat further time shall be given to the Committee at Oxon to Treat upon the two first Propositions viz. The first Proposition of His Majesties And the first Proposition of both Houses Resolved c. THat the time prescribed for the Treaty upon the two first Propositions shall be untill Friday next Resolved c. That Friday in this last question shall be taken inclusive Jo Brown Clex Parliamentorum His Majesties Message concerning the Cessation Charles R. HOw His Majesty hath spent His time since the Committee from His two Houses of Parliament came hither how willing Hee hath been during the four dayes allowed to them to expedite the Treaty it selfe by the free and diligent disquisition of the particulars comprized in those two first Articles and how intent He hath been upon the Cessation which He thinks so necessary and so much desires since the last Message concerning the same came to Him the Committee themselves cannot but observe And though no conclusion could be made within the two dayes a time limited with much strictnesse in a businesse of so great moment where all words and expressions must be carefully and exactly weighed His Majesty cannot doubt but both Houses will be willing to give and receive satisfaction in any particulars which are necessarily to bee considered in concluding the same though the two dayes are expired And if His Majesty enlarges Himselfe in His Replies more than may seem necessary to the Propositions and differences in debate It must be remembred by what unnecessary and unwarrantable Expressions in this last Message from His two Houses He is not only invited but compelled thereunto which He could heartily have wished might upon this occasion have been forborne 1. For the freedom of trade His Majesty hath great reason to require and the two Houses to admit that freedom to His good Subjects He desired For what concerns the supply of the Army with Arms Ammunition money Bullion and Victuals He consented to the very tearms proposed by the two Houses and that they may be observed is contented that searches may be made which being but the trouble of particular persons is not considerable in respect of the publique benefit and advantage But why all other liberty of traffique and Commerce should not be granted to His good Subjects He cannot understand for that His Majesties armie should receive much advantage thereby and the contrary army none is in no degree confessed For besides the restraint is to places where no part of His Majesties army is and indeed the whole trade of the Kingdom interrupted t is as great a support if not a greater to the contrary army to maintain and keepe up the trade of London from whence that receives its supply and reliefe as to his Majesties army to continue the trade of Oxford or any other place where Forces recide and to stop and seize the cloth Ker●…ies and other Western commodities which his Majesty can daily do from Reading would be as great disturbance to the Trade of London as the seizing of any commodities which may be done by the E. of Essex from Windsor or Wickham can be to the Trade of Oxford And therefore his Majesty hath great reason to presse that mutuall and universall Freedom to all his good subjects may be granted Otherwise he must either permit that Licence to his army to seize the goods of his people in their passage to London and to interrupt and break the Trade and correspendence of the Kingdom which bott our of publique consideration and private compassion his Majesty is most averse from or else must grant that evident benefit and advantage to those who deny the same to him and to his people for his sake And it cannot be denyed but this Freedom is so very beneficiall to his subject and so wholly considerable to his Majestie under that Notion that their very subsistance depends upon it and by this means Trade may be continued which if a little more suppressed by these distractions will not be easily recovered even by a setled Peace His Majesty believes that some Carriers have bin robbed

this instant to ours of the same date concerning Your Majesties owne Revenue WE humbly desire to know of Your Majestie if You will not accompt Your own Revenue to the sure for the future if both Houses of Parliament doe leave it in the same way as it was before these troubles did begin Northumberland W. Pierrepont W. Armyne I. Holland B. Whitelocke March 27. 1643. HIs Majestie did intend in his former Answer by those words of being sure of His own for she future that no restraints or interruption should be made by one or both Houses in and upon his Majesties Revenue but that if should be left in the same way it was before these troubles did begin Falkland March 28. 1643. WE shall transmit Your Majesties answer to that part of Your Proposition concerning Your Revenue to both Houses of Parliament without father Reply Northumberland J. Holland W. Peirrepont W. Armyne B. Whitelocke The Papers concerning the Magazines March 26. 1643. To that part of Your Majesties first Proposition concerning Your Magazines we humbly give this Answer THat all the Armes and Ammunition taken out of your Majestie Magazines which shall remaine in the hands of both Houses of Parliament shall be delivered into your Stores and whatsoever shall be wanting they will in convenient time suppply in kinde according to the Proportions which they have received We likewise humbly propose unto your Majesty that the persons to whose charge publike Magazines shall be committed being nominated by Your Majestie may be such as the two Houses of Parliament shall confide in And that Your Majestie will restore all such Armes and Ammunition as have been taken for Your Majesties use from the several Counties Cities and Towns Northumberland W. Pierrepont W. Armyne I. Holland B. Whitelocke March 27. 1643 HIs Majesties is content that all the Armes and Ammunition taken out of his Magazines which do now remain in the hands of both houses or of Persons imployed by them be forthwith delivered into such of his Stores as his Majestie shall appoint and that whatsoever shall be wanting of the Proportions taken out from thence by them be supplied by them with all convenient speed in kinde Which shall be committed to and continued in the costody of the sworn Officers to whose places the same belongs and if any of the said Officers shall forfeited or shall forfeit that trust by any misdemeanours his Majestie will by no meanes defend them from the Justice of the Law For the restoring all such Armes and Ammunition as have been taken for this Majesties use from the several Counties Cities and Towns his Masjestie being compelled to take them his own being taken from him did it alwayes with this Caution and promise to the places from whence he took them that he would by the blessing of God restore them again and make recompence out of his own Stores as soone as it should be in this power which promise he will make good to them expecting that such Arms and Ammunition as have beene taken from the severall Counties Cities and Townes for the use of the Armies under the command of the Earle of Essex be likewise restored to them Falkland March 28. 1643. Whereas we have received Your Majesties answer of the 27. of this moneth to ours of the 26. of this instant concerning Your Majesties Magazines WE humbly desire to know of your Majestie what time you intend by the expression in the words be forthwith delivered We likewise humbly desire to know in what places Your Majesty would have your Stores and who are the sworne Officers your Majestie intends that according to our Instructions we may transmit their names to both houses of Parliament Northumberland W. Pierrepont W. Armyne I. Holland B. Whitelocke March 28. 1643 HIs Majestie intended by that Expression be forthwith delivered as soon as the Treaty shall be concluded and agreed on Falkland March 29. 1643. The place of Store into which his Majestie is content that the Armes and Amunition taken out of his Majesties Magazines be delivered is his Tower of London and the Officers he intends are such as by Patent ought to receive and keep the same Falkland March 29. 1643. Concerning the Magazines WE humbly desire according to our Instructions that the persons to whose charge the publike Magazines should be committed being nominated by your Maiestie should be such as the Lord and Commons should confide in We not knowing whether the two housts will confide in the persons your Majesty mentions must transmit their names to both houses of Parliament to receive their farther Instructions Northumberland W. Pierrepont W. Armyne J. Holland B. Whitelocke April 5. 1643. HIs Majesty conceives his Answer concerning the persons to whose custody his Magazines shall be committed to be very cleare and sufficient and shall forbeare any more particular Nomination of them the two houses well knowing whether they have any just exceptions to make against any of them which if they have his Majesty will leave them to the due course of justice Falkland April 10. 1643. BY Instructions yesterday received from both houses of Parliament we are commanded humbly to desire your Majesty to make a further answer to that clause of the first Proposition which concerns the Magazines and we are humbly to acquaint your Majesty that the two houses of Parliament doe not think fit to enlarge the time of the Treaty beyond the twenty daies formerly limited to be reckoned from the five and twentieth of March last which can admit no alteration or enlargement without manifold prejudice and danger to the whole Kingdome Northumberland Will Pierrepoint Ioh. Holland Will. Armyne B. Whitelocke Aprill 14. 1643. HIs Majesty having made severall Answers to that Clause of the first Proposition which concernes the Magazines knowes not what Answer to make further except he were informed what part of the Propositions made to him was not clearely answered or had reasons given him to change and alter the Answer already made neither of which is yet done And he is very sorry that both houses of Parliament have not thought fit to enlarge the power of the Committee whereby lesse time would have served for the Treaty and are so absolutely resolved not to enlarge the time of the Treatie beyond the twenty daies which by Messages and attending the Instructions of the house are so neere spent notwithstanding all possible readinesse in his Majesty and which in truth might have ended all the Propositions if sufficient authority had been given to the persons imployed to debate and conclude neither can His Majesty understand why an Alteration or Inlargement in the point of time cannot be admitted without manifold prejudice and danger to the whole Kingdome He prayes to God that an Aversnesse to such an alteration and inlargement may not prove an unspeakeable prejudice and danger to the whole Kingdome Falkland The Papers concerning the Townes Forts Cinque-Ports c. March 27. 1643. To that part of Your Majesties first

And that if those Rights which he received from his Predecessours were really so formidable That would have beene more feared before which is now feared so much and his Forts and Castles would either not have been attempted or at least have enabled him to defend and keep them and have kept this from being a Question now between them Which since they could not do his Majestie if he had as much inclination as he hath more right to Feares and Jelousies might have more reason to insist upon some addition of Power as a security to enable him to keepe his Forts when he hath them then they to make any diffcultie to restore them to him in the same condition they were before But as his Majesty contents himselfe with so he takes God to witnesse his greatest desire is alwaies to observe and maintain the Law of the Land and expects the same from his Subjects and beleeves the mutuall observance of that rule and neither of them to feare what the Law fears not to be on both parts a better cure for that dangerous disease of Fears and Jealousies and a better means to establish a happy and a perpetuall Peace then for his Majestie to devest himselfe of those trusts which the Law of the Land hath setled in the Crowne alone to preserve the power and dignity of the Prince for the better protection of the Subject and of the Law and to avoid those dangerous distractions which the interest of any Sharers with him would have infallibly produced Falkland The Papers concerning the Ships March 27. 1643. To that part of your Majesties first Proposition which cencerns your ships we humbly give this Answer That the Ships shall be delivered into the charge of such a noble person as your Majestie shall nominate to be Lord high Admirall of England and the two houses of Parliament confide in who shall receive the same Office by Letters Patents quàm diu se bene gesserit and shall have power to nominate and appoint all subordinate Commanders and Officers and have a●l other powers appertaining to the Office of high Admirall which Ships he shal imploy for the defence of the Kingdom against all forraigne Forces whatsoever and for the safeguard of Merchants securing of Trade and the guarding of Ireland and the intercepting of all supplies to be carried to the Rebels and shall use his utmost endeavour to suppresse all Forces which shall be raised by any person without your Majesties authority and consent of the Lords and Commons in Parliament and shall seize all Armes and Ammunition provided for supply of any such Forces Northumberland W. Pierrepont J. Holland W. Armyne B. Whitelocke March 28. 1643. HIs Maiestie expects that his owne Ships bee forthwith delivered to him as by the Law they ought to bee And when hee shall please to nominate a Lord high Admirall of England it shall be such a noble person against whom no just exception can be made and if any shall be his Maiestie will alwayes leave him to his due triall and examination and grant his Office to him by such Letters Patents as have been used in the meane time his Maiestie will governe the said Admiraltie by Commission as in all times hath been accustomed And what ever Ships shall be set forth by his Maiestie or his authoritie shall be imployed for the Defence of the Kingdome against all Forraigne Forces whatsoever for the safegua●d of merchants securing of Trade guarding of Ireland and the intercepting of all supplies to be carried to the Rebels and shall use their utmost endeavours to suppresse all Forces which shall be raised by any Person whatsoever against the Lawes and Satutes of the Kingdome and to sieze all Armes and Ammunition provided for the supply of any such Forces Falkland March 29. 1643. WE humbly desire your Majestie would be pleased to give a more a more full Answer to the clause for the Ships to be delivered minate to be Lord high Admirall of England and the two houses of Parliament confide in who shall receive the same Office by Letters Patents Quam diu se bene gesserit And to that clause to suppresse all Forces which shall be raised by any person without your Maiesties Authority and consent of the Lords and Commons in Parliament Whereunto if your Majestie shall be pleased to give your assent we conceive we are then directed by our Instructions humbly to desire your Majestie to nominate such a noble Person to bee Lord high Admirall of England that we may forthwith certifie both houses of Parliament that thereupon they may expresse their confidence in that Person or humbly beseech your Majestie to name another and that in case such noble Person who shall be appointed to bee Lord High Admirall of England shall be removed or shall die within the space of three yeers next ensuing that the Person to be put in the same Office shall be such as both Houses shall confide in Northumberland Will. Pierrepont Will. Armyne Iohn Holland B. Whitelocke April 5. 1643. HIs Majestie conceives his former Answer of the 28. of March concerning his Ships to be so full that he can adde nothing thereunto in any part of it His Majestie conceiving it all the Justice in the world for him to insist that what is by Law his own and hath been contrary to Law taken from him be fully restored unto him without conditioning to impose any new limitation upon his Majesty or his ministers which were not formerly required from them by Law and thinking it most unreasonable to be prest to diminish his own just Rights himselfe because others have violated and usurped them Falkland April 10. 1643. BY Instructions yesterday received from both Houses of Parliament we are commanded humbly to insist upon the desires of both Houses expressed in our former Papers concerning the Ships And both houses of Parliament doe observe in your Majesties Answer not onely a deniall to all their desires but likewise a censure upon their proceedings Northumberland W. Pierrepont W. Armyne I. Holland B. Whitelocke Apil 14. 1643. HIs Majestie for the present forbears any farther Answer touching his Ships desiring first to receive the Answer of both Houses to his Message of the twelfth of this moneth But his Majestie will howsoever before their departure hence give them a further Answer Falkland April 15. 1643. HIs Majestie gave so cleare a reason to justifie what he insisted upon in the point of the Ships that he cannot but wonder to see the same againe prest to him and yet both the reason he gave left unanswered and no other Reason opposed to weigh against it His Majesties end in this was not to lay any censure upon their proceedings but it being necessary to the matter in Question for his Majestie to say what had been done and the matter of fact being such as it seems could not be repeated but it must appeare to bee censured his Majestie did not thinke himselfe bound to bee