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A40455 The polititians catechisme for his instruction in divine faith and morall honesty / written by N.N. N. N.; French, Nicholas, 1604-1678.; Talbot, Peter, 1620-1680. 1658 (1658) Wing F2181; ESTC R35689 105,901 208

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and consequently Anne Bullen could not be during her life and Queene Elizabeth must needs be a bastard Cecil and others whose fortunes were to be built upon the ruine of the ancient Religion and Nobility perswaded the Queene that her security was not consistent with the Popes supremacy and authority in her Dominions therefore it was necessary to declare her selfe a Protestant and supreme Governesse of Christs Church She followed his advice and tooke the spirituall government so vainely upon her that she visited Diocesses invented now Ceremonies rejected what she pleased of the old reprehended Preachers in their very Sermons and which is most ridiculous of all consecrated with her faire hands Master Whitgift pretended Archbishop of Canterbury if they both be not very much wronged by persons of integrity that related the story as a most certaine truth to Fitz Herbert a man well knowne for his profound judgement great learning and solid vertue We may believe without the least note of credulity what he printed an 1612. after setting downe this story of a reformed Ordination related by Scherer A few yeares since not farre from Vienna Scherer postilla de sanct conc ● de S. Steph. a certaine noble woman did call the Master of her children to the office of a Preacher or Minister and did order and consecrate him by the imposition of her hands and of her apron which she did use instead of a stole Whether any such imposition of hands Fitz Herbert in the Preface to Persons discussion of Master Barlowes answer in sine aprons or Kyrtles were used to the first Prelates by Queene Elizabeth saith Fitz Herbert I knowe not but I have beene credibly informed that Master Whitgift would not be Bishop of Canterbury untill he had kneeled downe and the Queene had laid her hands on his head by which I suppose ex opere operato he received no grace According to Protestant principles Queene Elizabeth might and ought to ordaine Bishops seeing she was baptised and Ordination is but Baptisme in their Religion Let not our modern Protestants censure Master Whifgift he understood the grounds of Reformation and their practise also in those dayes better then any that now will condemne his receiving Ordination by imposition of Queene Elizabeths gracious hands if the was Pope why could she not give orders and consecrate Archbishops 2 The change of Religion which the Queene made in England was by corrupting most of the Nobility though I belive more of them stood for the Catholick Faith then the Earle of Shrewsbury and Viscount Montacute Camd. in Eliz. I admire how Camden saith that onely a Talbot and a Browne opposed the intended Reformation whereas all other Authors affirme that Catholick Religion was cast by one onely voice or three at most It s certaine that all the Bishops did their duty in defending the true Faith and that many of the Nobility were perverted by the Duke of Norfolke and the Earle of Arundell One of 14. Bishops that were in Parliament of whom there was an opinion of sanctity when he perceived how flexible many of the Lords were to the Queenes desires in changing the ancient Faith and establishing Protestancy uttered these terrible words The curse of God and of mine fall upon your selves and your posterity which will be destroyed by this very Religion that ye have voted for this day Whether this was a prophecy or no I will not dispute but what the Bishop foretold is now visible to the whole world There is not upon the face of the earth a more contemptible generation of men then the English Nobility at this present One simple Souldiour or Read-coate is sufficient to keepe them all in awe and three or foure Troopers may disarme three hundred and be more uncivill if they please If Catholick Religion had stood the Nobility had never fallen from their ancient splendour they had beene as famous abroad and beloved at home as their renowned Ancestors who were all Roman Catholicks Policy never thrives long against Religion and fortunes built upon the ruines of the Church seldome descend to the fourth generation and often vanish away from the first The Duke of Norfolk head of our Parliament Polititians that gathered votes for the Queene and Protestancy lost his head upon a block when it was thought he was in hopes to have it crowned by marrying the Queene of Scotland Many others of the English Nobility and Gentry had ●he same unfortunate end and their posterity is like to continue that slavery which for them hath beene purchased by their Grandsires at so deare a rare as the exchange of Catholick Faith for Heresy They may attribute their owne misery and captivity to the liberty which they gave in that fatall Parliament to the people of interpreting Scripture as they should thinke fit It was no lesse want of Policy then Religion not to stick to the old Roman infallibility seeing they could not make their Enghlish Church infallible The Popes supremacy and infallibility is not so prejudiciall to the world as Hereticks pretend it takes away all ryranny and rebellion that may be covered with a cloake of Religion if both Prince and people will submit their judgements to his who is an indifferent person All England hath reason to curse Queene Elizabeth and her first Parliament for depriving them of so necessary a support of the Soveraignes authority and the Nations liberty as the Popes spirituall jurisdiction and authority 3 After that the Catholick Religion was voted downe in Parliament the Queene commanded that all the Catholick Bishops should be deposed he of Landaffe onely excepted an old and simple man because he tooke the oath of supremacy as some of the rest had done in King Henry the VIII his time yet the Hereticks who were named to succeede in the other Bishops Seas could not prevaile with Landaffe to consecrate them at the Nags-head in Cheapside where they appointed to meete him and therefore th●y made use of Scory who was never ordained Bishop though he bore the name in King Edwards reigne kneeling before him he laid the Bible upon their heads or shoulders and bid them rise up Sacrobosco Fitz Simons Constable Champney Fitz Herbert in his Preface to F. Persons and many others with Harding and Stapleton and preach the Word of God sincearly This is so evident a truth that for the space of 50. yeares no Protestant durst contradict it nothing being more common in England as hath beene lately demonstrated in a booke called A Treatise of the Nature of Catholick Faith and Heresy to which I remit the Reader where he will see how the Protestant Ministers abuse the world with cheating tricks and false records to cry downe this most certaine story The Bishops named by the Queene were Parker for Canterbury Grindal for London Horne for Winchester and Iewell for Salsbury besides many others who were all or most of them at Franckford in Queene Maryes time and there named a