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A91287	The subjection of all traytors, rebels, as well peers, as commons in Ireland, to the laws, statutes, and trials by juries of good and lawfull men of England, in the Kings Bench at Westminster, for treasons perpetuated by them in Ireland, or any foreign country out of the realm of England. Being an argument at law made in the Court of Kings Bench, Hil. 20 Caroli Regis, in the case of Connor Magwire, an Irish baron ... fully proving; that Irish peers, as well as commons may be lawfully tried in this court in England, by the statute of 35 H.8.c.2. for treasons committed by them in Ireland, by a Middlesex jury, and outed of a trial by Irish peers: which was accordingly adjudged, and he thereupon tried, condemned, executed as a traytor ... By William Prynne Esq; a bencher of Lincolnes Inne.	Prynne, William, 1600-1669.	1658 (1658)	Wing P4090; Thomason E945_5; ESTC R203350	65,819	94

meaning And so much in answer to this grand objection wherein I have been over tedious but shall recompence it with brevity in the remainder The second Objection a meer branch of the former is this That if Irish Peers should be tryable by an ordinary Jury within this Law for Treasons done in Ireland this might prejudice the whole Nobility of Ireland who by colour of this Act might be sent for out of Ireland and tryed here for Treasons Misprisions and concealments of Treasons there committed and so quite deprived of their birth-right of tryal by their Peers which would be of dangerous consequence I answer 1. That I have manifested that this tryal by Peers was never deemed claimed nor enjoyed in Ireland as a privilege by Irish Peers nor ever used or practised in that land before this Act but once claimed since and that in Ireland Therefore it cannot be intended that this Statute or the makers of it ever imagined to save this manner of Tryal by Peers only to Irish Peers which they never enjoyed nor so much as once claimed or possessed before the making of it Neither can it be any injury or injustice to deprive them of that now they never heretofore claimed used enjoyed as their privilege and birth-right being not indubitably setled on them by any Law that I have seen but only in some special Cases of Treason since 35 H. 8. wherof this is none by the late Acts of 2 El. z. c. 1. 6. when as this privilege is taken from them not by a bare strained exposition or implication but by this express Act of Parliament made long since for the Common good and safety of England and Ireland not yet repealed 2ly This Objection with as great or greater strength colour might be made for all the Commons of Ireland far more numerous and considerable than their Peers they being deprived by it of tryals by Irish Juries in their native Country than for Irish Peers alone which Tryal here against Irish Commons was never of late excepted against this Law having been so often adjudged to reach to them Therefore there is no colour to exempt Irish Peers out of it 3ly This pretended prejudice to Irish Peers in point of Tryal by their Peers is soly in cases of High Treasons or Misprision and concealments of it and no other the Statute extending to no crimes but these alone Therefore the mischief is not great in general and no Irish Peers I presume but such who have trayterous or disloyal hearts will deem it a disparagement or injustice to them to be secluded of a Tryal by their Peers only in these Cases of High Treason And if others who are professed Rebels and Traytors murmur at it as none else will we need not much regard it nor prefer their pretended privilege before our own Kings Kingdomes Religions yea Irelands safety and wellfare in bringing them to a speedy tryal and condign punishments for their Treasons here in England by vertue of this Law 3ly Even by the very Common law before this Act Treasons committed in Ireland by Peers or Commons were tryable before the Marshall of England in England it self as is evident by the Parliament Roll of 2 H. 6. ● 9. * Where Iohn Lord Talbot being the Kings Lieutenant in Ireland accused James Bottiler Earl of Ormond of certain Treasons there particularly recited by him committed in Ireland before John Duke of Bedford Constable of England in his Marshals Court Which accusations the King by the advice of his Parliament did discharge and abolish to appease the differences between them Upon which else he might have been proceeded against though an Irish Peer without any tryal by his Peers See Cooks 4 Instit p. 123 124. Therefore a fortiori this special Act of Parliament may subject Irish Peers to a tryal by a substantial English Jury in England for Treasons done in Ireland since tryable for them here before its making even in the Marshals Court 5ly This Statute doth not simply take away the tryal of all Treasons committed in Ireland from thence only it makes them all tryable here when the King State and Parliament shall see just cause or occasion for tryal of them here as now they do in these times of general rebellion there when the Rebels are so predominant and the times such that no safe fair or indifferent tryal of this Traytor can be there had or expected And seeing the Law and common reason will inform every man that the King and State will never be at the cost and trouble to send for Traytors and Witnesses out of Ireland to try them here but upon a most just occasion and urgent necessity to prevent either a faiter or delay of Justice in case of horrid Treasons and Rebellions And no Irish Peer who hath any loyalty in his heart or reason in his head will deem it a dishonor or prejudice to the whole Irish Peerage in general or the trayterous Peers sent hither to be tryed in particular to be outed of a tryal by Irish Peers in such Cases of necessity and expediency only it being better and safer for this Realm and Ireland too that these native Irish Peers who have been proved to break out into actual Rebellion in all ages as this Prisoners Ancestors have done as much or more than any his * Grandfather being the first man that broke forth in Tyrones Rebellion should be subject to tryals for the same by ordinary English Juries here and outed of their Peerage then that such Arch-Traytors and Rebels as the Prisoner and his Confederates are guilty of the effusion of many thousands of Protestants and English mens bloods should escape uncondemned or be executed by Martial law And our Law in this Case which concerns the safety of 2 Kingdoms at once will rather suffer a particular mischief especially to rebellious Peers than a general inconvenience to both Realms and all loyal Subjects in both 6ly Though the tryal of all English and Irish Peers by a legal indictment presentment and Jury of their Peers alone and not by Martial-law or Commissioners themselves alone be an essential fundamental Right and Privilege for the securitie of their lives and estates which our Parliaments in all ages have been very curious to preserve and not to alter yet the Tryal of Peers by Peers alone not by a Jury of other Freemen for the most part if rightly considered is rather a meer punctilio of honor than matter of real privilege or benefit to Peers and by intendment of Law and common experienc a fair and legal tryal by the oaths of 12 honest substantial indifferent English Gentlemen or Freeholders to whom the Prisoner may take all * sorts of lawfull challenges by Law which shall be allowed if there be any just cause of suspition of partiality injustice consanguinity c. besides his peremptory challenge of 35 Jurors without cause which challenges * Cook affirms shall not

Rebels power Tumults in that Realm he could not conveniently undergo So I humbly pray on the behalf of the King Kingdome Parliament and our whole English Nation to all which he hath been such a capital Traytor and Enemy that this Plea of his may presently be over-ruled and himself brought to his speedy Tryal Iudgement and execution for his unparallel'd Treasons and the blood of those many thousands of innocent English Protestants shed in Ireland upon this occasion which cries for Justice and Execution against him without further delay The rather because nulli differemus Justiciam is one clause of that very Act of Magna Charta ca. 29. which he hath pleaded in bar of his Tryal of which I pray both he and the whole Kingdom may now enjoy the benefit by his undelayed Tryal and execution too in Case he shall be found guilty of the Treasons for which he stands indicted of which there is little doubt since so fully confessed by himself in a writing under his own hand and we are ready to make them good against him as we have already done against his Confederate Mac-Mahon by the Testimony of a clowd of honorable pregnant witnesses in case he shall deny it After two Arguments at the Bar on both sides of this Case Justice Bacon argued it himself and delivered his opinion and judgement against the Prisoners plea that though he be a Baron of Ireland yet he was triable for his Treason by a Middlesex Jury in the Kings Bench and outed of his Peerage by 35 H. 8. c. 2. Which Iudgement was approved by this Order of both Houses of Parliament Die Lunae 10 Febr. 1644. Ordered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled That the said Houses do approve of the judgment given by Master Justice Bacon in over-ruling the Plea of the Lord Magwire and of the manner of the Tryal by the Indictment of High Treason in the Kings Bench And the Judge is hereby required to proceed speedily thereupon according to Law and Iustice John Brown Cler. Parl. Henry Elsing Cler. Parl. D. C. Upon which on Monday Febr. 10. 1644. he was brought from the Tower of London to the Kings Bench Bar there arraigned where putting himself upon his trial he challenged 23 of the Jury which appeared peremptorily Whereupon a Distring as was awarded to the Sheriff of Middlesex to retorn Quadrag●nta Tales the next day of whom he challenged 12 more peremptorily And being tryed by twelve of the residue retorned against whom he had no legal exception nor challenge he was upon his own Confessions and pregnant evidence of 15 Witnesses Persons of Quality found guilty of the Treasons for which he was indicted and thereupon Febr. 11. was adjudged tobe drawn to Tyburn and there hanged by the Neck and cut down alive and then his Bowels to be taken out and there burnt before his Face his Head to be cut off and his body to be divided into four Quarters and then to be disposed as the Parliament shall appoint Which was accordingly executed the 20th of Febr. Even so let all such perfidious bloody Traytors perish TO fill up the vacant pages of this Sheet I shall annex this one Record and also one Irish Act being both very pertinent to my Argument Pat. 1 E. 1. m. 20. Hibernia Venerabili in Christo Patri eadem gratia Midden Episcopo Dilectis fidelibus suis Mauricio filio Mauricii Justiciario suo Hibern et Magistro Johanni de Saumford Escaetori suo Hibern salutem Cum de●uncto jam celebris memoriae Domino H. Rege pa●re nostro cujus animae propicietur altissimus ad nos Regni Angliae gubernacu● et terrae Hibern Dominium per●ineant ob quod Praelati Comites Pro●eres as Communit●s Regni nostri nobis tanquam Domino suo ligio et Regi fidelitat●s Juramentum omnia alia quae nobis rations Coronae dignitatis Regiae ab ipsis fieri praestari nobis in absentia nostra poterunt plenariè sine omissione aliqua prompto liben●i animo praestiter int Ac Archiepiscopi Episcopi Abbates Priores Comites Barones Milites libere tenentes ac tota Communi as terrae nostrae Hiberniae nobis tanquam * Regi Domino suo ligio consimile sacramentum fidelitatis praest are teneantur Dedimus vobis potestatem recipiendi nomine nostro fidelitatem ipsorum Ita tamen quod si vos omnes interesse nequiveritis tune duo vel unus ●estrum qui praesens fuerunt nichilominus plenariam habeat potestatem rec●p●endi nomine nostr● fidelitatem ipsorum in forma praedict● Et ideo vobis mandamus quod fidelitatem praedictam nomine nostro recipiatis prout melius videbitis expedire In cuju● c. Dat. per manum W. de Merton C●nc apud Westm. VII die Decembris 33 H. 8. c. 1. made in Ireland An Act that the King and his Successors to be Kings of IRELAND FOrasmuch as the King our most gracious dread soveraign Lord his Graces mostnoble progenitors Kings of England have been Lords of this Land of Ireland having all manner kingly jurisdiction power preeminences and authority royal belonging or appertaining to the royal Estate and Majesty of a King by the name of Lord of Ireland where the Kings Majestie and his noble Progenitors justly and rightfully were and of right ought to be Kings of Ireland and so to be reputed taken named and called and for lack of naming the Kings Majesty and his noble Progenitors Kings of Ireland according to their said true and just Title Stile and Name therein hath been great occasion that the Irishmen and Inhabit ants within this Realm of Ireland have not been so obedient to the Kings Highness and his most noble Progenitors and to their Laws as they of right and according to their allegiance and bounden duties ought to have been Wherefore at the humble pursute petition and request of the Lords spiritual and temporal and other the Kings loving faithfull and obedient Subjects of this Land of Ireland and by their full assents Be it enacted ordained and esta blished by this present Parliament● That the Kings Highnesse his Heirs and Successors Kings of England be alwaies Kings of this Land of Ireland and that his Majesty his heirs and Successors have the name stile title and honor of King of this Land of Ireland with all manner of honors preheminences prerogatives dignities and other things whatsoever they be to the Estate and Majesty of a KING appertaining or belonging and that his Majesty his Heirs and Successors be from henceforth named called accepted reputed and taken to be Kings of the Land of Ireland to have hold and enjoy the said stile title majesty and honors of the King of Ireland with all manner preheminence prerogative dignities and all other the premises unto the Kings Highnesse his Heirs and Successors for ever as united and knit to the Imperial Crown of