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A52398 His Grace the Duke of Norfolk's charge against the Dutchess before the House of Lords, and the Dutchesses answer with the depositions at large of the witnesses that were examined on both sides. Norfolk, Henry Howard, Duke of, 1655-1701.; Norfolk, Mary Howard, Duchess of, 1659?-1705. 1692 (1692) Wing N1231; ESTC R28732 9,282 24

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THE PROCEEDINGS Before the House of Lords Between the Duke and Dutchess OF NORFOLK c. His GRACE the Duke of Norfolk's CHARGE Against the DUTCHESS BEFORE THE House of Lords AND THE Dutchesses Answer With the Depositions at large of the Witnesses that were Examined on both Sides LONDON Printed in the Year 1692. The Charge which Henry Duke of Norfolk Earl Marshal of England doth Exhibit against his Wife Mary Dutchess of Norfolk before the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament Assembled pursuant to their Lordships Order of the 14th of January 1691. Is for the Crime of Adultery THE Person Charged to commit the said Crime with the said Dutchess is one Germaine of the Parish of St. Margarets Westminster The Times and Places where the said Crime was committed were at White-Hall in the Months of June July and August some or one of them in the Year 1685. At Windsor in the Months of July August or September some or one of them in the said Year 1685. In the Parish of St. Margarets Westminster March April May June some or one of them in the Year of our Lord 1690. And in the said Parish of St. Margarets Westminister in the Months of July or August 1690. In the Parish of Lambeth in the County of Surry in the Months of May June July August some or one of them in the Year 1691. Served by Thomas Bowen 19 January before Six of the Clock Norfolk Marshal THE DEPOSITIONS OF THE DUKES Witnesses That were Examined ROwland Owen saith that Mr. Reymer about Six Years since being the Duke of Norfolks Butler ordered him to carry the things out the Lodgings being open he saw Mr. Germain in Bed with the Dutchess of Norfolk the Dutchess leapt out of the Bed and put on a Morning Gown and German hid himself in Bed this was between five and six of the Clock in the Evening about a fortnight before Bartholomew-Day he did not tell the Duke he is sure it was Germaine he saw him often twice or thrice a day the outward door of the Lodgings were shut but he opened it with a Key he had MArgaret Ellwood saith she had a Company to see the Lodgings at Windsor in the first Year of King James about three or four of the Clock in the Afternoon a Woman told her my Lady was not there but she opening the door saw my Lady upon the Stools in an ill Posture Mr. Germaine's Breeches were down he pulled them up and laid his hand on his Sword saying God Damn you for a Whore how have you the Impudence to come here my Lady bid him kick me down he scattered some concerns that is Mans Nature on the Boards She saw no Nakedness but her Knee or a little above another time after she found Germaine's Handkerchief and Ruffles in my Ladies Bed my Ladies Woman said there was Germain's Name upon them Another time she saw Mr. Cornwall let Mr. Germaine out of my Ladies Closet She saw Germains Leggs within hers when she came the first time into the Room and his Breeches were about his heels The first time was in Bartholomew-Fair time Mrs. Knifton told her it was Germains Linnen THOMAS Hudson saith That the Duke of Norfolk being at Portsmouth he was Butler at Windsor when Germaine the Dutchess and Cornwall went to Play Germaine sent his Footman for clean Linnen which he brought next Morning Mrs. Gwyn said to the Dutchess the Dogg would have layn with me but she would not lye with the Dogg where the Deer lay'd for she knew my Lady Dutchess would accept of him after that he saw a Shirt and Wastecoat in the Closet which my Ladies Woman and Ann Burton took away My Lord being absent we murmured amongst our Selves that my Lord was wrong'd I told my Lord whereupon my Master Cragg had me to Lord Peterborough's Lodgings and threatned me that he would prefer me to his Brother Richards who turned me off in Germany this was he thinks in December or September 1685 Mrs. Gwyn spoke this in the Green-Room and he was in a Closet hard by and the Door open and so heard it ANN Burton saith She was Servant to the Duke and Dutchess of Norfolk when the Duke was gone to Portsmouth she was at Windsor and my Lady went to London with Germaine when my Lady came home after Supper she was in great haste to go to Bed when she was Undrest she said she would Lock us out because she would not be disturbed before Eleven a Clock the next Morning though the King or Queen should come Hudson told her Germaine was still in the House whereupon we laid Chairs on the Back-stairs that we might hear him if he came down the Chairs were not removed next Morning when Germains Man came with the Linnen he said his Master was there My Lady ordered a Fire to be made in my Lords Room where when she was come Mrs. Nelly Gwynn came in and asked her how she liked her Nights Rest and being asked for Germaine she said she knew nothing of him My Lady complaining of her Hair being out of Order Nelly answered it was a hot Night with her enough to put her Hair out of Powder and Curl too Presently after Cornwell came in and ask'd for Germaine and my Lady saying she knew nothing of him Nelly Gwynn said I question not but he will come out by and by like a drowned Ratt with that whilst I was cleaning the Dining Room Mrs. Kifton called me and shewed me in the Closet Germaines Shirt and Wastcoat and afterwards making my Ladies Bed saw there were two Prints had laid the Shirt and Wastcoat were sent by the Duke to the Lord Peterboroug she saith she is a single Woman and was never Marryed this was about Bartholomew-Tide about six Years since she supposes the Bed was stained both by a Man and Woman SImon Varelst saith that he was at Windsor to draw the Dutchess of Norfolks Picture about six Years since and had the Dukes Closet to put his Pictures in when he had done and had been at home two or three days German came to him much concerned and said you can do the Dutchess an extraordinary kindness will oblige the Lord and Lady Peterborough in the highest degree then he shewed me a Letter from the Dutchess to me and read it to me before that he told me there was a Shirt and Waiscoat and they are known to be his He said I desire you to save the Dutchess Honour I desire that you will be so much a Gentleman as to own them to be yours and that you left them there I answered I was much concerned there should be such a trouble but I desired to be excused I could not do it without prejudice He told me the Lord and Lady Peterborough had discoursed the Duke of Norfolk upon it and if it were but my Linnen their discourse had wrought so much on him that if there came but any Evidence to assist them he would
to prove that the Duke her Husband was and is guilty of the Adultery and hath continued in the course of Adultery for this Ten years last past and doth so continue My Lords IT is Misfortune and Dishonour enough to be thus Accused I had rather stand charged for High-Treason before your Lordships than with this Ignominious Crime in the Charge for High-Treason the manner of Tryals the ways of Proceedings are known so is the Punishment in this Case against me Your Lordships are now creating New ways of Proceeding against me and a New Law to Punish me and this for a Crime supposed and alledged and to be committed near Seven years past in another Reign after publick Indempnity in the Session of Parliament many sittings of the Parliament and desolution of others without mentioning this Crime against me My Councils are to seek how to Advise my Defence in the Proceeding being altogether strange and without Precedent or Example I find my Prosecution now to be very violent and the Proceeding very swift upon me having had but one night to prepare my Answer to this general Charge I do in this place publickly declare I am Innocent of what is objected to me and am not guilty of defiling my Husbands Bed I am not guilty of the Crime charged against me I hope being thus accused I may without Vanity and Vain-glory say what is well known that I am not only the Lord Duke of Norfolks Wife but also Born and Descended from Parents and Ancestors of the Antient Nobility and that your Lordships Ancestors and my Ancestors who Sate in this House knew no such Proceeding it is with regret that I bring this Answer for my Self and against my Husband being my Defence I hope you will excuse me And if your Lordships shall in your great Wisdom proceed farther in this Matter I hope and do most humbly Pray that I may hereafter have convenient time to make my Proofs and full Defence and then I doubt not of your Lordships Justice for as much as for my Husband who sits and Votes with your Lordships Mary Norfolk The Depositions of the Witnesses on the behalf of Her Grace the Dutchess of Norfolk ALexander Herman saith that he served Mr. Germaine he hath left his service a year and a half about eight Weeks after he came from Ireland with the King He served him a Year and a half Mr. Germaine was in Ireland with the King in the Summer in the Year 1690. He went to Ireland two days before the King that Summer he continued there Four Months he believes he went the last of May or the last of June He came back with the King he the Witness served him all that time in Ireland and saw him every hour and every day and never stirred from him from Ireland he came in the same Ship with the Lord Villiers the Earl of Manchester and Mr. Felton and he went to Ireland in the Monmouth Yatch with the Envoys of Holland and Brandenburgh and the Marquess Mampevillion He saith Mr. Germain was at Brussels in Flanders in May last he saw him there and speak with him there he saw the Lord Villiers and the Lord Lumley there with him he Lodged with him in the same Tavern there with him for four days and saw him not after He the Witness coming then for England left him there He never k●ew him wear his own Hair his own Hair is dark Brown he never knew him appear abroad without a Wigg his Hair is about half a Finger long he wore a Fair Wigg he saith he the Witness was Quartered in a place behind him in Ireland he could not stirr but he heard him he saith that Four Weeks after he saw him in Brussels he saw him walking in St. James's Park ANthony Moore saith he was Barbar to Mr. Germaine the first time he shawed him was five or six Years since his own Hair is Brown he shaved his head very often he shaved him before he went to Holland and since he came home he never saw his Hair long enough to cover his Ears nor saw him ever wear his own Hair but a Periwigg he shaved him for a Year and a half before and since he went for Ireland he shaved him always at his house near the Park he or his man shaved him ever since he came from Holland to this day he or his man shaved him the night before the King went for Holland he saith that Mr. Germaine when he went away said it would be a Month or two before he should come back but he knew not how long it was This was at his house next door to the Cockpitt he shaved him Yearly since the King came into England he saith the Campaigne was almost done when he first shaved him after he came from Flanders GRace Cook says that she knows Jane Wadsworth she hath lived near her Four Years she came into the Witnesses house with a paper in her hand and ask't her who left it saying she knew nothing of it She said that she had said that she had seen the Dutchess of Norfolk in Master Germaines House but she had not seen her a great while and now that she had seen her she was satisfied that it was not her and she wish't that she might burn in the Fire and never go home to her Children if she would take her Oath of it The Paper was to warn her to this house it was the first night that the Papers came out that she said this Hosea Grimes John Hall and Margaret were present when she said this she saith she lives next door but one to Jane Wadsworth JOhn Hall saith that he hath known Jane Wadsworth above a year about a Fortnight since she came into Mrs. Cooks with an Order in her hand but knew not who left it and said she could say nothing to it Mrs. Cook saying again you must say something to it else you had not had this Order from the House then she said she had been at the Duke of Norfolks and had told the Duke that she had chanced to go into Captain Germanies for a Pint Pott and she said she chanced to see the Dutchess of Norfolk but she said she might be mistaken for she had not seen her in seven Years before but she had seen her once or twice since she came from France and that was none of the Dutchess of Norfolk which she saw in Captain Germanies Stairs whereupon Hosea Grimsley asking her if she was sure it was not she she said she was sure it was not she wishing that she might Burn and never go home to her Children if she would Swear it for she could not swear it Hosea Grimsley Grace Cook and two other women were present in Grace Cooks house when this discourse happened which was the very night the Order came out he saith he wrought in Mr. Germanies house he saw twice or thrice Ladies there in Masks one of the Ladies in the Mask gave
leave off the Pursuit I refusing still he offered me a Purse of Gold and told me I should have my Fortune by it but I still refusing Mr. Germaine he went away very much discontented my own Wife being in the next Room over-heard the discourse between Germaine and me and told it and spoke of it else I had not been here now THOMAS Foster saith that he was Coachman to Mr. Germaine and carried the Dutchess of Norfolk often about two Years since in his Coach and brought her home and the Footmen have had four Half-Crowns given them and Martin a Dutchman his helper called it Hush-Money It was by Night against a Light that he saw her Face in the Coach it was about Seven or Eight of the Clock at Night about this Time a Year he hath seen her Face once in the Day-time she looking out of a Sash-Window two Stories high in Germain's House in Park-Street he knows her Face well enough he hath seen her before and since she was Married EDieth Sawbridge saith that the Tuesday following this unhappy Discourse concerning the Dutchess of Norfolk Mrs. Sturton came into her Chamber and she telling her what had happened at Windsor Mrs. Sturton replied this was nothing but what she expected before now the Witness replied that if she the Witness had been as near the Dutchess as the said Mrs. Sturton she would have prevented all this to which Mrs. Sturton said would you have had me whipt at the Carts-Arss The Discourse we had was that Mrs. Knifton told her when I came from London on Fryday Night that she told me she was glad I was come for she expected her Throat to be cut every Night since my Lord Duke went to Fortsmouth I askt her the Reason of her Fear she answered Germain had said with my Lady Dutchess ever since my Lord Duke went to Portsmouth that when he came Home he would hear of it and he would kick her for a Bawd and if she should tell my Lord Germain would cut her Throat I bid her have a Care what she said for these were dangerous Words how can you prove this she said it was very true the Witness asking her Mrs. Knifton how she knew this she said Germain instead of going Home went into the Closet The Witness cannot say that she said all this to Mrs. Sturton but the greatest Part she did say Mrs. Sturton said this was nothing but what she expected before this was the Tuesday after my Lord Duke came from Portsmouth This was about Bartholomew-Tide in the First Year of King James's Reign Her Grace the Dutchess of Norfolks Answer to the Lords in Parliament against a Divorce I MARY Dutchess of Norfolk under Protestation that the pretendid Charge of Adultery against me in the Honourable House of Peers was and is generally Insufficient and such as I humbly conceive I am not bound by Law to give answer unto yet knowing my own Innocency and that I am not guilty of the pretended Crimes this Protestation being shewed to me I shall and do under the Matters and Qualifications hereafter Mentioned answer and say hereby affirming that having been married to his Grace the Duke of Norfolk for near Fifteen Years he never did till the pretended Charge given against me in the least pretend or intimate unto me that I had injured his Bed but did always Treat me with great Kindness and respect About the Year 1685 at his Request and Desire I did go with him from London to France and there continued with him some Time where his Grace being under an Indisposition and continuing so for some Time he shewed so great Affection to me and put so great Trust and Confidence in me that all such things as were administred to him in Order to his Recovery he did not non would receive any of them but what came from my Hands and did with great Care attend him and being recovered he told me his Occasions required him to go for England but he would return to me in France in some short Time and bring me home for England and at his parting with me he shewed great Affection to me with Tears in his Eyes said he had a Thousand Pardons to ask me desiring my Patience and that I should return into England to him in some short Time and after his Graces return into England he having Notice from me that my Lodgings was inconvenient and desiring his Leave to change the same he wrote me Word very affectionately that God forbid he should constrain me to any Incon●eniency and left me to my Liberty therein before his Parting with me in France as a Testimony of his Love and Affection to me he ordered 400 Pounds Yearly to be paid me out of his own Estate by Quarterly Payment over and above the seperate Maintenance settled upon me by my Father upon my Marriage with him and that after his Arrival in England he made several Visits to my Mother the Countess of Peterborough and with great Observance and Respect asked her Blessing and told her that he had left me well and safe in France and then said his own Debts were pressing upon him that if her Daughter meaning my Self would consent that the Mannor of Drayton and other Estates should be settled on him and his Heirs he should thereby be made a happy Man and I coming into England his Grace having put off House-keeping and dwelling in the Countess of Peterboroughs Lodgings in St. James's for about Two Years and in Suing him for Alimony the said Four Hundred a Year not being paid unto me he did not during that Suit object any Crime against me which had been proper for him to have done to avoid any Alimony if I had been guilty and I the said Mary Dutchess of Norfolk being at Drayton in Northampton-Shire his Grace did write very Affectionately unto me and that Disturbances happening in Northampton-Shire and those Parts in November 1688 I left Drayton and with the Consent of the Duke went beyond Seas and there continued until sent for by my Father and Mother and then returned to England which was in or about Octob. 1691. with the Dukes consent and then application being made to me by the Duke my Husband to joyn with him in the Sale of Castle-Rising and other Estate I being advised that would be injurious to me would not joyn therein which I humbly apprehend to be the true Cause and occasion of this proceeding against my Honour on the Duke my Husbands part And I the said Mary Dutchess of Norfolk adhering to my Protestation of my Innocense and denying that I am guilty of the pretended Crime charged against me and being unwilling to Impeach my Husband of any Crime whatsoever yet being advised that by the Laws of the Land a Husband Suing a Divorce for the Adultery of his Wife he ought not to obtain any sentence of Divorce if he be proved guilty of the same Wherefore the Respondent doth aver and is ready
Orders to take down a partition she was reported to be Captain Germanes Sister MArgaret Coney saith that she knows Jane Wadswort● who come into Mrs. Cooks the first time she was Subpena'd and asked her who left the Paper in her hand for her she went to Mr. Germain●s for a Pott she thought she saw the Dutchess of Norfolk there but she saw her since her coming from France and she was well satisfied it was not her and wished she might neversee her Children and Burn if ever she saw her there ALexander Herman saith that he knoweth Jane Wadsworth well he never had any Discourse with her concerning the Dutchess of Norfolks being in Mr. Germaines house he saith he hath drunk often at Wadworths house but he never had any Discourse with her concerning the Dutchess of Norfolk nor never saw this Woman in his Masters house in all his life he waited on his Master at Table and in his Chamber all the time of his service which was a Year and a half he never saw a Lady in a Mask in his Masters house MAry Pennington saith that she knows Jane Wadsworth she was her Servant but not long for she was not honest she the Witness being gone out at her return she met her going away with her the Witnesses Linnen and her Husbands Bundled up this was about a 11 Years since FRances Knight saith that she knoweth not Jane Wadsworth nor never Discoursed with her nor never saw her at Master Germaines house nor did the Witness ever carry any Letters thither JVdith Stourton saith that she was Servant to the Dutchess of Norfolk when the Report was of the Dutchess and Mr. Germain which was about a week before the Duke and Dutchess went to France she was asked by the Lord Peterborough in the presence of the Duke of Norfolk in the Dukes house in St. James's Square where they shut the Door as she would answer it before Almighty God if she did not know whether his Daughter was an Adulteress Her answer was as she hoped to see God in Heaven the Dutchess was as Vertuous as any woman alive for ought I know she saith that what she then said is true and if she should pretend to say any other she should wrong her self she saith that no one was present beside the Lord Peterborough and the Duke when they Examined her and that she saw no Shirt or VVastcoat at that time and that she doth not Remember that she said to Mrs. Webb any thing concerning the Dutchess and Mr. Germaine and thinks she never spoke with Mrs. Webb and she was not at Windsor when the Duke was at Portsmouth she saith there was a Report of Scandalls which she was sorry for ELizabeth Camell saith that she went with the Duke and Dutchess of Norfolk into France they went together very lovingly and parted so she thinks the Duke staid with her about a fortnight the Dukes Eye was ill and my Lady went often to him and when she did so we retired my Lady dressed his Eye they Eat and Drank together every day they did not Lodge together that she knows My Lord told her at parting at the Grate in the Monastery that he would fetch her away suddenly and they parted kindly Mrs. Lawson was in the Monastery with the Dutchess The Witness continued there about 13 Months my Lord Expressed a great deal of kindness to my Lady in going and while he was there there were Tears on both sides at parting when my Lord and Lady were together in the house called Loten de Tarran at Paris we used to withdraw not knowing what they had to say together MAtthew Scot saith that he hath paid several Sums to the Dutchess from the Duke in May 88 he paid 125 l. for the Dutchess to Mr. Cray he paid 2 or 300 l. into France when the Duke and Dutchess was there he cannot say he remitted any Money into France after the Duke came home he knows not that any Money was paid to Mr. Morton for my Lady by the Dukes Order MRs. Judith Stourton Examined before on the Dutchess behalf saith that she saw Mrs. Sawbridge once in the Dukes house in St. James's Square and they talk of the Scandal of Mr. Germain and the Dutchess of Norfolk She saith she the Witness never heard Mrs. Sawbridge say that Mrs. Knifton should say that Mr. Germain laid with the Dutchess every night at Windsor she denys that she said to Mrs. Sawbridge that she expected to hear of that before now she never said to Mrs. Sawbridge would you have had me whipt at the Carts Arse she saith she remembers not that Mrs. Sawbridge told her that Mrs. Knifton said that she was afraid that her Throat would have been cut when the Duke was at Portsmouth she Remembers not that she askt Mrs. Sawbridge the Reason of Mrs. Kniftons fear or that she told her any thing of Mrs. Kniftons saying that Mr. Germain laid with my Lady every night at Windsor she saw Mrs. Sawbridge and Discoursed with her but she connot say what Discouse she had with her FINIS